1st chemo tomorrow!

Hayz lol lol lol at the idea of a cyclops boob! That made me laugh. Maybe you could set a new fashion. And the boob past it’s sell by date! I have to say once I hit my 40s I was thinking my boobs were getting a bit past it. If only we could just trade them in for a newer model… oh, maybe that’s what Jordan etc. do anyway?

Trumpet - yes I’ve had acne - some spots came up and then went away again and I’ve got a few on my scalp. Just another thing to add to the list… It must be the chemo playing havoc with our ovaries as my acne has always been hormone related and I have really sensitive breasts just like my period is about to start, which it isn’t (who knows when I’ll get my next one?) and has been lasting for the past 2 weeks.

My OH was commenting that he hadn’t seen much of my boobs recently to which I said not bloody likely either, till they stop hurting! I have to say I don’t feel particularly sexy with a tube emerging out of my chest and dangling down my cleavage - nothing like a constant reminder! It was when he offered to assist with speeding up the disappearance of the hair in my nether regions that I realised he might be looking at the positive aspects of hair loss in a slightly different way from me!!! (sorry if this has offended anyone!)

Blimey, must do some work. I can waste far too much time on here given half a chance!

Helen xx

Hi All

This thread is strting to get crazy - cyclops boob and stick on reconstructions - love it. I was going to start a new thread as I am starting 3 x FEC 100 and 3 X TAX next Tuesday but I think this one is going to be going for a while and we can all help each other with the dreaded chemo.

Stella good luck this afternoon - i am thinking of you sweetheart.
Al of you with young children must be feeling even more vulnerable and scared as you have so much responsilility for your little ones and want to be here in the future for them - and you will be - that’s why we are going through this crap. My son is 30 and I still worry for him and want to enjoy my grandchildren when they eventually come along. I’m 52 and not too much older than most of you but menopausal (last period just over two years ago)anyway and have all the hot flushes/sweats etc already. I had decided against the cold cap but you lot are tempting me now with saying it’s no too bad after the first 15 minutes. It’s also the hanging around in the unit - ours is quite small and very warm and stuffy and can be busy too. My onc said this is a tough regime and would be difficult to hang on to the hair! Not sure what to do now!!! Lov and strngth to you all. Lyn xxx

hello everyone - and welcome Stella and Lyn
Stella, hope today has gone OK, I am sure that the first is the scariest because its an unknown experience, so when you read this you will have already got that hurdle over!
Stella, thank goodness someone is nearer my age (I’m 50) was starting to feel a bit of a gannie. Hit 50 last year and until June would have said it was one of the best years of my life - had been brilliant!
Hayz, did laugh at your kids’ sayings, how sweet are they? clearly analytical and problem solvers - they’ve got it all sorted, haven’t they?
as for geriatric 80 year olds, it runs in my family! my dad was having psychiatric assessment when he died, and would hurl his false teeth at people who irritated him. We were all really proud of him,he took no b*llsh*t, right up to the end! It has become one of our best memories of him. I intend to go out fighting in my 80s, just like daddio!!
Helen, thanks for your kind thoughts! my bosoms are also exploding, I’m not menopausal yet, but feels like maybe this is it. Hope so, or will need ovaries out when chemos finished. bit less tired today, need to just wait a week for bloods to sort themselves then on with the treatment. Bit peeved as I had a posh camping trip planned with my buddies next month, and had to cancel. Luckily was going to be booked today, so we’ll just do something else instead, when I am OK to go and play.
10 vodkas eh? that sounds to me like a target to aim for, when all this is done!
love to you all,
monica xx

sorry, its Lyn who’s my age! Am I allowed chemo brain after 1?
xxx

LOL! Monica you are allowed Chemo brain at any time!

I’ve been using it as an excuse since I found out I needed Chemo!

My friend has actually bought me a couple of humour T-Shirts recently from here based on that very excuse! -

shop.cafepress.co.uk/breast-cancer

Clearly not for everyone, but some of them appeal to my sense of humour…plus I’m all for laughing at myself before someone else does! :o)

I have the one saying ‘The Chemo made me do it!’…and she has the ‘Bald Chicks Rule’ one set aside for when my hair goes! LOL

Like I said, not for everyone, but it makes me feel a little more in control if I can laugh!

Hx

Hayz, some of those T shirts are amazing! I had to stop looking becuase there were so many that I liked, it could have cost me a fortune. I’ll take control of my wallet and will go back and fill my basket. You feeling any better today?

I’m 44 so fall somewhere in the middle age range. In real life I have an older and younger sister, and with you lovelies out there I feel like I just acquired a whole bunch more siblings :slight_smile:

Hope you got on OK Stella and that you’re not feeling too grotty?

I went to the cancer centre this morning and had a run through with the nurse, so know a bit more about what will happen on Monday (see what you mean about the surroundings Trumpet). I was a paramedic for a long time and used to go to some really ramshackle old hospitals, but they were the ones that used to deliver exemplary care, so am hoping that this runs true for us. Hope you’ve recovered from your initial ordeal?

Lotsaluck all
xxx

Hi!

Will look at te t-shirt site, sounds like fun! I had a nice time yesterday trying on wigs, there are a few perks! Have got a great big blonde curly one!!
Yes, have recovered and start a new job on Tuesday in the west end, a dream job so trying to do as much of it as possible.
How has everyone else got on with work? Are people still managing to do it! Want to lead as normal life as possible!
Stella, how are you feeling now? You will feel better soon xx

I’ll be thinking about you on Monday!

xx

Hi all

I would like to bring your attention to a documentary aired on Monday this week and still available on BBC Iplayer.

I just want to say what a fabulous programme. If you are looking at mastectomy and reconstruction or just breast cancer this may be of interest to you. Possibly not for the squeamish.

I think the women who took part are very brave to allow the world into their stressful moments and to share it with us. It had me in tears but was also inspirational.

I have not been required to have a mastectomy and my wishes go out to all of you who are in this position.

Best wishes

Helen.

Hi Hayz and Trumpet - yes, the t-shirts are fab. I want the one that says ‘I’ve got chemo brain, what’s your excuse?’ but it’s not available unfortunately! I was thinking about buying the ‘boob inspector’ one for the OH but really don’t think he’ll wear it.

As to work, unfortunately I was made redundant a couple of weeks before I was diagnosed - I was targeted for removal after they appointed someone new to take my job - how convenient to make me redundant! Unfortunately all my life insurance, critical illness pay and sick pay went with the job and now I have nothing. I was forced to work my notice and lost all my saved holiday when my boss refused to pay me for it when I was signed off sick. Unfortunately all of this was quite legal, if completely morally wrong. Am I bitter and twisted about this? Too bloody right I am. Having taken the total of about 5 days sick leave in 15 years now the time I really need it I have nothing. I am also now unemployable - who would give me a job with all this hanging over me? I wouldn’t. So I have signed on for ESA - the grand total of £63 per week - hardly touches the mortgage payments let alone food.

Having said all that, I have taken the opportunity to set up my own business - I have bought a new computer and software and now am training myself in a new drawing package. I have one small piece of work and I hope that when I get spat off the cancer conveyorbelt next year I will be set up to start looking for work again. I hope it will be a positive decision in the long term, even if it is a bit bleak at present.

I miss work and the sociability of it all, I’m frustrated sitting at my home office all day not talking to anyone. I could probably work two out of three weeks at the moment but it’s just not feasible. Anyway, at least the awful stress of redundancy (and hatred of my boss) on top of diagnosis has gone now and I’m not prepared to get stressed again until I have finished treatment, even if it does mean I am broke.

Hope everyone’s feeling fine today and that you all have a great side-effect-free weekend.

Helen.

Hi Helen

What a nightmare with the job! I’m not working through my treatment…3 young children are enough of a drain on my small amounts of energy without having to deal with people who are in arrears with their mortgage! I’m not too sure how sympathetic I would be on the phone to some of their situations either! Can imagine me loosing the plot with one or two of our regulars given my current situation and me screaming ‘TRY LIVING WITH CANCER’ down the phone wouldn’t go down too well I wouldn’t imagine! LOL

Have you applied for Disability Living Allowance? I filled in the forms today. A lot of it was more the emotional side of things for me…having to be dragged out of bed in the morning…going for a sleep in the afternoons etc. No clue if I’ll get it, but lots of women in our situation do. I’m also going to speak to either the adviser at McMillan or the CAB to see if there is any other help available. The costs I’m going to incur in traveling alone when my radiotherapy starts will be huge! If nothing else, my job has taught me to deal with these issues before they arise!

I watched the BC documentary last night…sobbed a fair bit…was surprised that they tried to shrink Gails tumour first (I had 45mm lump,17/30 lymph nodes & triple neg BC. Was told that couldn’t be shrunk as not hormone responsive?)…and hid in my chair when I seen the op that I would need to reconstruct!

I’m glad I met someone who had the tummy tuck one when I was in hospital or I would be too terrified to consider it…especially seeing what’s involved. I have to say that I’m looking forward to the flat tummy tho! I’m unable to have the other one as my lymph nodes had attached themselves to the blood supply to the muscle in my back & the surgeon had to cut a chunk away during my MX & Anc clearance…so it’s the huge one for me if I want 2 boobs…which I desperately do! Didn’t think I would be saying that, but I wear…or USED to wear a lot of vest tops & that’s just not possible with a prosthesis. Clothes are getting me down already! I’m so jealous of all you 2-boobed women!! :o)

…and I’m glad you all liked the T-Shirt site. I was a little worried after I posted the link last night that some might find them a bit much!

Hope you all have a fab & SE free weekend!! I’m hoping I do with the kids on holiday Monday & Tuesday…they’re only back at school 5 minutes!

Hazel x

Hi everyone,

Yes, Helen i know what you mean, it’s difficult to listen to other people’s problems or even take work seriously when all you are thinking is ‘At least you don’t have cancer, that would give you something to moan about!!!’ or am i being really unfair??!!Hazel, i too have triple negative BC don’t really know what to feel about it! haven’t really been told anything, have you?

How is everyone doing with their chemo, am keen to know how i may feel after the 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th and what people managed to do!? Thanks.

Day 13 now and no hair loss at all, i used the cold cap but am expecting some, have got nice wigs to wear!

Anyway am taking it easy watching strictly come dancing, even though it makes me a bit sick seeing all those beautiful glamourous women, oh well, we all keep going!

Hope everyone is having a nice weekend xxx

Hey Trumpet1

The whole triple neg thing really freaked me out! I don’t ask many questions when I’m in with the consultants because I’m so scared of getting more bad news…but I stupidly googled it later!! That was so the wrong thing to do! I’ve got passed the initial OMG now, but I think I’ll live in constant fear of mets. I still don’t know a huge amount about it, but I’m a bit nervous about the whole fact there’s no back up treatments after rads are finished. I was told that there’s a new trial just started & I would have been perfect for it, but I have a haematology condition & the research nurse wouldn’t let me take part…why tell me then??? I’m hoping that since things are developing so quickly in treatments that there might be something by the time we finish. They’re trialing something in America at the moment…my husband says! I stay away from all internet cancer sites bar this one now!

I did read that triple neg is most common in women under 40 and it’s the rarest type of BC tho…trust us not to get the ‘normal’ type! LOL

Have you had surgery or are you having chemo first?

Hazel x

Hi,

I had surgery first 16mm removed and no nodes. Now 6 FEC, think i heard that less chance of coming back after 5 years with triple negative. I know, the chances of getting it under 40 and the chances of it being that type make us extremely special!!
I was offered that trial but didn’t go on it as you had to have injections every 3 weeks for a year and my work means i go away alot and didn’t want to have to stop doing that for another 6 months. Just wanted to get through all this bit. Yes, they do seem to be making advances in it so hopefully they will have something soon.

xx

Sorry, forgot to ask! Have you started chemo yet Hazel ? xx

Hey

I started chemo 10/9 - Having 4 x FEC then 4 x TAX. Then I have prob 6 weeks of rads.
I had a mx & anc clearance on 14/8. 45mm tumour with 17/30 infected nodes.
I was told back in November that it was a cyst & to leave it until it was golf ball sized & they would drain it…so that’s what I done. They tried to drain it in May when I went back (lump under my arm was brushed aside when I asked about it…and he asked if I would LIKE the cyst drained!!) When it wouldn’t drain I was told it was a heamatoma & to come back in 4 weeks to see if it had shrunk any. Obv it hadn’t, so I had a core biopsy…results a week later… BOOM!..cancer! Completely unexpected…so much so that I only had my 5 year old at the hospital with me!

Thankfully (for the Dr I seen)he doesn’t actually work in he hospital I attend, he was just covering for a short time. Think I would swing for him if I seen him again! LOL

I try not to think ‘what if’ but I unknowingly left the cancer to grow & spread to my lymph nodes and that eats at me a lot. Especially after thinking that I had done everything right in getting the lump checked out when it was tiny.

I’ve just got everything crossed now that the chemo & rads do their jobs well & I can live to be a little old lady…my CT & Bone scans were clear back at the beginning of August & I’m trying hard to convince myself that that means there’s no cancer elsewhere & it’s all good :o) I seem to have turned into a glass half empty kinda person since my diagnosis & that’s just not me.

Oooh…aint I depressing tonight! LOL

I’m off to have a wee glass of wine & a big slab of chocolate to cheer myself up…lets hope my taste buds are working again!

Hx

Hazel,

That is a really terrible story, that must wind you up, but we can’t do anything about the past only the future and wine and chocolate definately help the present! Have your tastebuds started to come back think mine have now after two weeks.
I was also told not to worry by the first consultant, and it wasn’t cancer but just ‘my lumpy breasts and my hormones’ she said ‘i have to send you for a mammogram cos you are on the system but if it was up to me i wouldn’t bother’ Thank God for the system!! They gave me an ultrasound instead 5 weeks later and then a biopsy I was told they would phone me up with the results of test because they were so confident it wasn’t anything! She doesn’t work at the hospital anymore! Who are these people!?>?
You did all the right things!!
Yep, we just have to trust in everything they do and keep smiling, they will make us better even if we feel worse in the process!
Hope the wine and the chocolate work, i have hot chocolate and a film.
Sending lots of love xxx

Hi everyone,

Wow, great messages with loads of useful info, thankyou! Hope everyone is coping ok this weekend.

I am about to start FEC on Tuesday so feel a little bit more prepared now.

Love to all
Al
xx

OMG Hayz, Trumpet - your stories are both sooooooo scary! my experience was the complete opposite. Found a lump, saw the GP the next day. A week later I’d had a mamogram, ultrasound, core biopsy and diagnosis all on the same day. Bish-bash-bosh - turmoil! I can’t believe the way you were left to chance like that. Nightmare!

Been ‘nesting’ today. Cleaned my nets, the windows, hoovered this and scrubbed that. Only thing is it feels like I’m getting ready for a party, not chemo - boy am I gonna be disappointed tomorrow!

Hope that the choc and wine did the trick for you?

Good luck on Tuesday Gemjunckie and Hurdygurdy, hope it goes as well as it can do for you. Will be back after my first slice of the chemical pie tomoz.

Lotsalove to you all
xxx

Hi everyone,

Good luck Al and Loocie with your chemical input this week. Just imagine they are putting nice things in your body. My skin has never been better (don’t know if that’s a common side effect!). Maybe we should start listing the good side effects!!
I know what you mean about the cleaning thing, you just want everything right and in place before you start. I got out the clothes i would wear for the next couple of days just so i didn’t have to think about that, and i stored some coronation streets up!!

Anyway good luck and let us know how you feel when you are ready!

xx

Hi Trumpet and Hayz

lol Hayz at giving people a piece of your mind down the phone - I really feel like doing that sometimes - probably not the most professional of attitudes, though.

My OH is dealing with his ex-wife’s niece who is currently living off benefits - she gets all the usual stuff plus £695 housing benefit to pay her rent which she has pocketed for the past year and has expected my OH to cough up her rent as he is guarantor (it’s not quite that that simple - there is a trust etc. involved). I get absolutely FURIOUS with her/him as she basically sponges off the rest of us, got pregnant, has a lovely flat, all the benefits you can get thrown at her, can’t be bothered to work and expects at age 22 for someone still to support her. And I get a measly £63 per week on ESA, am unemployable, no help with mortgage or council tax or anything else. It makes me so MAD and the OH has had to live with my rantings all weekend. I think he was glad to head off to work this morning lol.

I can’t believe you had such poor treatment with your diagnosis. Mine was different although no-one, including me, thought it was cancer - all the results came back normal - mammogram, core biopsy, ultrasound, the feel of it all said cyst apart from the first initial needle biospy where the pathologist said ‘suspicious’ (I could kiss him). Fortunately my surgeon and radiologist just said ‘sorry, don’t believe the results, we’ll have to operate to get it out and then find out what it is’ - so they did, two days later. It all happened so fast it was horrendous but at least they were persistent and my hospital has very good results because of this attitude. This was all on the NHS too, I have private healthcare, but despite continually asking they assured me it was quicker on the NHS, and the care the same (ok, so no private room, telly and room service, but so what?).

Three days to the next (second) lot of poison. I can’t believe these three weeks have gone so quickly. I have felt absolutely fine for the past 10 days. If it wasn’t for the hickman line I would be able to forget I am having chemo. Day 19 and my hair is starting to come out - nothing to notice on my head yet but I usually lose nothing and there are now hairs on my hairbrush and when I run my hands through it - let’s hope it holds out a bit longer, I’ll be using the cold cap again on Thursday.

My skin is not good - bit of acne, and I have permanently tender breasts and I think I have a cold - runny nose, anyway, although I feel ok. All the other SEs - mouth ulcers, lack of taste etc. disappeared at the start of last week. The stupid guinea pig bite got infected but fortunately has sorted itself out now, and I find when I go blackberrying that the scratches seem to get infected very quickly - I am slathering them with antiseptic cream in the hopes that will help. I shouldn’t probably do it, but I can’t bear to be locked up inside watching rubbish tv all day.

Don’t ever google or facebook breast cancer (although it did make me grateful that we live in a country where healthcare is free, and generally good - you don’t want to be living in some African country and get breast cancer)- you don’t want to go there! My bcn warned me not to and recommended this site and Macmillan. I tried it once - never again. Also I recommend you don’t go onto the secondaries bit of this site until you have to - there are some places not worth going unless they apply to you - otherwise you’ll freak yourself out - I certainly did.

Off this morning - cycling to the gym then bodybalance and a bit of weights - I’m putting on the pounds again and need to not do that - I literally won’t have anything to wear (I’m down to my fattest jeans) and can’t afford to buy any more. I hope I’ll continue to feel up to exercise in the next sessions.

good luck to all of us hitting the drugs again this week. May it be a positive and lovely experience for all of us!

Keep counting off those days to Christmas.

all the best

Helen.