Hello, I am using Iscador (subcutaneous injections) and my oncologist is ok with it. I would just like to know if anybody is using it here, and if it makes them feel better or if they got any result.
take care
sab
I’ve never used it but have read quite a lot about it and its use in Europe - especially Germany & Switzerland. I’m taking quite a lot of supplements to try and prevent recurrence, so can’t take everything, but the difficulty is to know the best things to do. I suppose those who don’t approve of homeopathic medicine wouldn’t agree with it but interesting that your onc is happy about it. How often do you have the injections?
Dear Sab
I’ve been using it for over 3 years. I’m on series 3 and I inject myself every second night with a week off after each course. It’s difficult to know what is helpful with cancer but I suppose I feel I am doing everything I possibly can to help keep my cancer from killing me (I was stage 3b when diagnosed). I also take tamoxifen and supplements. I have my treatment administered from the Homoeopathic Hospital and I have every faith in my consultant. Bristol Cancer (now Penny Brohn) also approved of Iscador. They did not approve of B17 - apricot kernals. I’m 4 years down the line and doing well.
I hope you find my comments helpful.
Best regards.
Jeannie
Dear Jeannie and Redders, thank you for answering!
Jeannie, my story is a bit different, I have been diagnosed with secondaries in 2008 after being diagnosed with stage 1 in 2005…not much luck.
I have being using iscador for a few months, and I am using the series with 0.1, 1 and 10 mg, and I am having big big skin reactions with the 1mg dose. My “alternative” doctor says I should have bigger breaks between cycles and try to inject it in sites that have more fat (like the belly or the back, at the level of the waist). Since a couple of weeks I am taking tamoxifen and zoladex (my primary was triple negative, but the lung metastasis is ER+), and I inject the implant of zoladex in the left side of the belly so I only have the right side!
do you have any experience of bad skin reaction? any suggestion?
thank you so much for your help
sabrina
Dear Sabrina
Sorry, this is a really quick message tonight. I have just had two cysts removed from my right eye today. The nurse said the most likely cause was my chemo. Seemingly, when you have no eye lashes there is no protection and dirt can get into the ducts and block them. Saying all this in case it helps others from worrying about eye lid lumps.
I started on the same series as you but I didn’t get any reaction. A reaction is good and is what they are looking for. It should be about the size of a 50p piece. I only got the reaction on Series 3 hence I’ve been put on Series 3. I try to grab a piece of fat in my tummy (not difficult now that I have put on two stone with tamoxifen)and insert the syringe into the fat. Sometimes I put it into my right side as I was told the nearer the site of the cancer the better - I had my BC in my right breast. You should not be experiencing much in the way of a bad skin reaction - a red mark the size of a 50p is what you are looking for. I feel you should see the person who administers your Iscador. Like you have said, it may be that you need to have bigger breaks between cycles until your body has got used to it.
Good luck.
Jeannie
Thank you Jeannie, and good luck with your eye!
According to the MacMillan site…which I believe gives sound information and advice…there are no properly conducted trials which show that iscador provides any benefit in treating cancer. There are many papers which suggest iscador is effecive, but the MacMillan advice is that these are methodoligically flawed.
Iscador is used by some oncologists on the continent particularly in Switzerland and Germany.
Despite the evidence many peoople do believe that isacdor can be effective and as there is no evidence that it causes any harm I think probably oncologists in the UK who are easy about it just think that if their patients think its helping them then don’t bother to upset them by pointing out it doesn’t work.
Jane
Jane, it is very difficult to conduct proper clinical trials or studies with complementary treatments with patients that are already heavily treated with all sort of thing. Anyway, it is proven that it stimulates your immune system, whether that can be good or bad it depends…
I have met people that use it and say it makes them feel better during chemo, and I think this is enough.
sab
Hi sab
I agree that if people feel better on something then thats OK
I think all treatments/drugs etc should be tested using the best scientific methods. Complementary treatments are not somehow different in this respect.
Best wishes
Jane
I found a comprehensive review of clinical trials with Iscador as a link in the MD Anderson web site
cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/mistletoe/HealthProfessional/page6
Hi guys!
I have a sister who has a secondary breast cancer and currently undergoing a radiation therapy. her doctor informed here also about this alternative medicine. and ive done some research and iscador is a bit pricey and doesnt guarantee you a treatment. but a week ago i have heard a cancer hospital in china that specialized in cryosurgery. its fuda cancer hospital. they are best known among the late-stage cancer patients whom cannot be cured by the recent medical science. Fuda is best known for its excessive uses of cryosurgery and brachytherapy (125-Iodine seeds implantation).
spread the word guys!
I also take Iscador, prescribed by London Homeopathic Hospital in Great Ormond St. My oncologist is also happy with it (actually it was one of her team who recommended the LHH Complementary Cancer Care programme.) Mine is just drops though, taken in water - I wasn’t offered injections, maybe I’m on a lower dose?