HER2+ and need some buddies

@salbert @galdiolus @gromit12 congratulations and well deserved!

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And many thanks to all the community champions for their time and thoughtfulness

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@salbert @galdiolus @gromit12
Congratulations and very much well deserved xxx

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I did cold capping for 4 1/2 of my 6 cycles of chemo (my 2nd cycle was interrupted due to a docetaxel reaction, the 3rd they wouldn’t let me because of the previous reaction, then I was allowed to resume using it for the 4th when I switched meds and they had to conceed the reaction was nothing to do with the cold capping). I lost my hair regardless (head and body). However it has returned in abundance on my body (I remain unimpressed, I was hoping body hair wouldn’t return or at least be less hassle than previously), head hair is coming in but much slower.
I found x2 otc cocodamol tablets before cold capping helped far more than paracetamol but I appreciate nor everyone can tolerate codeine, as a migraine sufferer I’ve always found it more effective. Those first 30mins when the cap is put on are a right kick in the crotch though. Even though I could tolerate it I hated every second of it (my head would go purple every cycle wearing it). No idea if it’s why my hair has grown back but I’m telling myself it was so it was worth putting myself through it.

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Definitely tell them you have questions that if they don’t answer before the end. I was told by my oncologist she was relieved I was able to advocate for myself. I keep a list of questions before I go in and then tick them off as the consultation goes on and then at the end reiterated if they’ve not explained everything I wanted to know (sometimes I add questions DURING the consultation if I learn something new).
I also would record consultations (asking permission first), after a while my oncologist started giving me loads of pamphlets and things to read and now at the end of my chemo, even though I don’t feel like I know that much, my clinicians all make passive aggressive comments about me ā€œover preparingā€ as if my wanting some control and knowledge is a bad thing. Quite annoying if I’m having a bad day already.

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Yes, I’ve noticed they can seem a bit edgy when you do your own research/reading, which makes me a bit suspicious! But then I guess they probably also see a bunch of folks who have ā€˜done their own research’ by watching conspiracy theory videos on YouTube so I can kinda understand the reticence a little sometimes :sweat_smile:

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They usually say stuff like ā€œoh someone’s keenā€ or something equally patronising. I tell them I have no control over what they order me to do (other than refuse it) so I may as well prepare myself, that usually shuts them up.

It’s not as if I’m looking into ridiculous things, usually just things they’ve mentioned in passing so I know it’s a possibility it may happen.

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Hi everyone,

Feeling a bit low and confused today.

Can I ask has anyone had a care plan call from their GP, totally not connected to the hospital?

When I received my diagnosis I received a text from my GP surgery saying sorry to hear etc… and that they will give me a call.

Anyway I’m feeling like I wish they hadn’t!

The GP sounded like she was reading from a script. When I mentioned my type of cancer - Grade 2 Invasive Ductal Carcinoma Oestrogen positive HER 2 positive, the response was ā€œ I wouldn’t say it’s one of the better ones to have and to stay hopeful ā€œ.

I’ve gone from feeling positive which is how my BC nurse and surgeon make me feel, they are wonderful and I have trust in them. To now feeling very low and anxious.

I get my lymph node and surgery results tomorrow so think this is making me anxious too so not sure if I’m reading too much into the GP call.

Sorry for my rant, just wondering if anyone else experienced this from their GP?

Thanks everyone, love to you all :sparkling_heart::sparkling_heart:

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Congratulations @salbert, @galdiolus and @gromit12, you will be fab (well you already are :star_struck:). And belatedly @arty1 ! :bouquet::bouquet::bouquet::clap:t2::clap:t2::clap:t2:

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@erica i am so sorry that you have experienced this from your GP. I think that many practices now have cancer pathway navigators to support their patients who are newly diagnosed. I know mine did. I was lucky as my cancer navigator is a breast cancer thriver so I think she was maybe more tuned in.

Please try not to worry about the comments that were made about the type of cancer.
The discovery of Herceptin has had such a positive outcome for those diagnosed with HER2+ breast cancer. If the service isn’t helpful to you from the GP surgery maybe speak with your own breast nurse or of course the BCN on here.

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Hi @erica
My experience of gp knowledge about specialist areas is that they tend to be out of date! Communications from consultants often take a while to get onto our records. My practice rang me in January to ask what was going on as they didn’t know! I found a letter on my my gp record that updated them but they evidently hadn’t picked up on it. Years ago my daughter had treatment for leukaemia and its was exactly the same them. My advice is stick with your care team’s information and leave the gp out of it! And by the way my daughter runs ultra marathons, got into the RAF despite her medical history!

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@sez love your response to your clinician! Go girl! :smile:

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@erica that is an outrageous response from your GP. Surely they would have already got this information from a letter from hospital. Complete lack of care and support there :rage: hugs xx

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Hi, @erica , that’s awful from your GP practice! Personally they should leave it to the experts if they are not going to be supportive. A simple call to ask you how you are getting along and saying that they are there if you need their advice would be sufficient. I was a bit miffed that my surgery never contacted me again after my referral, but perhsps that was a good thing. You are bound to be anxious about your surgery results but it sounds like you have a good team at the hospital and they will have a plan whatever. Good luck for tomorrow. Big hugs. X
Penny

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Thank you so much everyone, you all make me feel much better. Such a lovely supportive group :sparkling_heart:.

I’m going to just listen to my hospital team and try to forget the GP call.

It’s a beautiful day and the sun is shining here so I’m out for a walk along the beach, best therapy.

Lots of love :sparkling_heart:

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Hi @naughty_boob… thanks so much for being here for us all. I have a question about cold capping. I went to see my oncologist yesterday, and now know that I will be on the EC-T regime; 4 x EC every fortnight, followed by 12 weekly Paclitaxel, with trastuzumab, every 3 weeks. I’ve looked at the Paxman calculator, but it doesn’t have EC-T as a combined regime and when I try the drugs separately, The E & C return no score. I know a lot of ladies are on this regime, so wondered if I was doing something wrong. Any advice would be gratefully received.

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Good morning! I had 4 EC to start with and now on Paclitaxel (had 5 of 12 x weekly so far). After last weeks one, I had lots of redness and swelling of my face and neck for 48 hours, also ā€˜wobbly legs’ and pins and needles in hands and feet. Also nausea……. Have you had similar issues? I appear to be sensitive to the majority of what they’re giving me. Had a week in hospital at the end of January with Pneumonia and Sepsis.

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Hi All,

Just catching up on lots of messages!! Congratulations to our new champions :blush:

@leelee1 I have cold capped through 4 ECs and I’ve had 3 docetaxels (one left). Keeping my hair was a big deal for me but I ended up losing a huge amount after my 2nd EC (on Christmas Day too :roll_eyes:) and a lot more since then. I’d say I’ve lost like 80% but hard to tell. The cold capping is definitely more uncomfortable since having very little hair left as I had loaaaads of hair before for insulation. I take 2 paracetamol before and another lady in the chemo suite recommended these little self heating eye masks (I have Space NK ones) so I tried that last week and it did take the edge off a little. I did think about giving up a few times due to the brain freeze but I’ve kept it going. Not sure what to do with my hair, I don’t want to shave it but not sure how it’s going to look when it starts growing back through what’s left?! I basically just look like I’ve been electrocuted most of the time.

@genericuser1 I hope your appointment goes well today and that you manage to get all your questions answered. I write them all down in advance, and just go in with ā€˜I have some (a lot) of questions, should we start with them or shall I ask them at the end’ - my oncology team have been really great and patient so hopefully you find yours are too, although they know I’m a nurse (although in a completely different specialty) so maybe that’s why :face_with_peeking_eye: I also hope your secretary does a good job taking notes, even if he did refuse to dress for the occasion :rofl:

@erica I’m so sorry about your GP experience, it makes me sad that some health professionals just have no tact! I would definitely just focus on your hospital team as they are the experts here!!

Sending hugs to everyone! I’ve just had a psychology appointment so I’m going to dry my tears and go for a walk (to the coffee shop for some cake…) šŸ«¶šŸ»

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Morning all

I’ve been reading the thread and on numerous occasions I started to reply but then never finished my response, then the conversations moved on and I’ve literally lost the plot of the the many stories I’ve read!

Well done to all the new community champions for giving your time and sharing your wisdom. :green_heart:

I’ve had a rough couple of weeks courtesy of the delightful treatment regimen. Today I am singing Johnny Cash’s ā€œRing of Fire.ā€ If I could put a hose of cold water in that area I’d do it. @salbert even the top of the range 4 in 1 Germoloid isn’t working it’s unctuous magic.

Realised overnight that what I thought was a thirst quenching mildly pleasant fizzy can of pop does not like my gastric tract. Flipping reflux. Woke up in the night with what reminded me of a shaken bottle of fizzy drink. Frothing and burning in my throat and a mouthful of sour saliva despite doubling Omeprazole. Both ends unhappy so I’m festering in bed this morning. It’s joyous as am I. To think there’s a year of this ahead :sob:. Hoping the neoadjuvant therapy is the worst part. I’m trying to be thankful for my treatment but I’m fed up. It all feels a bit tedious and relentless. I’m trying to look forward with hope and positivity but the side-effects aren’t joyful and nor is the prospect of surgery on both boobs around my birthday. I’ve yet to decide what to do… farewell to both in their totality or do I hang onto to the right one after ā€˜it’ has been removed and have an uplift to match up with my reconstructed left one. I don’t know. Gut is still saying they both need to go but head worries about complications of implants and the fact that radiotherapy hasn’t been mentioned, just potential of more chemo if residual cancer found. If it transpired I needed radiotherapy, it’s probably that I’d have deformed looking boobs. Wish someone would decide for me.

Brain thankfully feeling better. Last week I was having a daily sugar instead of shower. Felt really out of sorts and spaced out. Nearly fell down from the top of a flight of concrete steps. Thankfully I was gripping the handrail at the time and my sister in law reacted quickly and grabbed my other arm. Close call. I met with a friend another day. I had to walk across a carpark. Felt very unsteady. I felt as though I’d got off the waltzer. Weird.

Enough of my gripes. May I ask when people stated their Zolendronic acid infusions in their treatment plan. Reason for my question is that in my midlife vanity I decided to have my teeth straightened - teeth crowded and difficult to floss. What was to be 19 weeks stretched to 34. I went to the dentist yesterday and he said we are 85% there, so more trays needed. Thing is I’m due to start Zolendronic acid next week with 4th cycle. If I proceed with it I can’t continue with the dental work. Would I be mad to defer the treatment until the dental work is finished?

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@sez Why is it the body hair always wants to be with us so much more than the head hair?!!

I didn’t cold cap in the end, now finished rather than 1pm… think i made the right decision for me. Thanks everybody! xx

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