HER2+ and need some buddies

@salbert @galdiolus @gromit12 congratulations and well deserved!

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And many thanks to all the community champions for their time and thoughtfulness

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@salbert @galdiolus @gromit12
Congratulations and very much well deserved xxx

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I did cold capping for 4 1/2 of my 6 cycles of chemo (my 2nd cycle was interrupted due to a docetaxel reaction, the 3rd they wouldnā€™t let me because of the previous reaction, then I was allowed to resume using it for the 4th when I switched meds and they had to conceed the reaction was nothing to do with the cold capping). I lost my hair regardless (head and body). However it has returned in abundance on my body (I remain unimpressed, I was hoping body hair wouldnā€™t return or at least be less hassle than previously), head hair is coming in but much slower.
I found x2 otc cocodamol tablets before cold capping helped far more than paracetamol but I appreciate nor everyone can tolerate codeine, as a migraine sufferer Iā€™ve always found it more effective. Those first 30mins when the cap is put on are a right kick in the crotch though. Even though I could tolerate it I hated every second of it (my head would go purple every cycle wearing it). No idea if itā€™s why my hair has grown back but Iā€™m telling myself it was so it was worth putting myself through it.

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Definitely tell them you have questions that if they donā€™t answer before the end. I was told by my oncologist she was relieved I was able to advocate for myself. I keep a list of questions before I go in and then tick them off as the consultation goes on and then at the end reiterated if theyā€™ve not explained everything I wanted to know (sometimes I add questions DURING the consultation if I learn something new).
I also would record consultations (asking permission first), after a while my oncologist started giving me loads of pamphlets and things to read and now at the end of my chemo, even though I donā€™t feel like I know that much, my clinicians all make passive aggressive comments about me ā€œover preparingā€ as if my wanting some control and knowledge is a bad thing. Quite annoying if Iā€™m having a bad day already.

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Yes, Iā€™ve noticed they can seem a bit edgy when you do your own research/reading, which makes me a bit suspicious! But then I guess they probably also see a bunch of folks who have ā€˜done their own researchā€™ by watching conspiracy theory videos on YouTube so I can kinda understand the reticence a little sometimes :sweat_smile:

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They usually say stuff like ā€œoh someoneā€™s keenā€ or something equally patronising. I tell them I have no control over what they order me to do (other than refuse it) so I may as well prepare myself, that usually shuts them up.

Itā€™s not as if Iā€™m looking into ridiculous things, usually just things theyā€™ve mentioned in passing so I know itā€™s a possibility it may happen.

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Hi everyone,

Feeling a bit low and confused today.

Can I ask has anyone had a care plan call from their GP, totally not connected to the hospital?

When I received my diagnosis I received a text from my GP surgery saying sorry to hear etcā€¦ and that they will give me a call.

Anyway Iā€™m feeling like I wish they hadnā€™t!

The GP sounded like she was reading from a script. When I mentioned my type of cancer - Grade 2 Invasive Ductal Carcinoma Oestrogen positive HER 2 positive, the response was ā€œ I wouldnā€™t say itā€™s one of the better ones to have and to stay hopeful ā€œ.

Iā€™ve gone from feeling positive which is how my BC nurse and surgeon make me feel, they are wonderful and I have trust in them. To now feeling very low and anxious.

I get my lymph node and surgery results tomorrow so think this is making me anxious too so not sure if Iā€™m reading too much into the GP call.

Sorry for my rant, just wondering if anyone else experienced this from their GP?

Thanks everyone, love to you all :sparkling_heart::sparkling_heart:

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Congratulations @salbert, @galdiolus and @gromit12, you will be fab (well you already are :star_struck:). And belatedly @arty1 ! :bouquet::bouquet::bouquet::clap:t2::clap:t2::clap:t2:

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@erica i am so sorry that you have experienced this from your GP. I think that many practices now have cancer pathway navigators to support their patients who are newly diagnosed. I know mine did. I was lucky as my cancer navigator is a breast cancer thriver so I think she was maybe more tuned in.

Please try not to worry about the comments that were made about the type of cancer.
The discovery of Herceptin has had such a positive outcome for those diagnosed with HER2+ breast cancer. If the service isnā€™t helpful to you from the GP surgery maybe speak with your own breast nurse or of course the BCN on here.

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Hi @erica
My experience of gp knowledge about specialist areas is that they tend to be out of date! Communications from consultants often take a while to get onto our records. My practice rang me in January to ask what was going on as they didnā€™t know! I found a letter on my my gp record that updated them but they evidently hadnā€™t picked up on it. Years ago my daughter had treatment for leukaemia and its was exactly the same them. My advice is stick with your care teamā€™s information and leave the gp out of it! And by the way my daughter runs ultra marathons, got into the RAF despite her medical history!

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@sez love your response to your clinician! Go girl! :smile:

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@erica that is an outrageous response from your GP. Surely they would have already got this information from a letter from hospital. Complete lack of care and support there :rage: hugs xx

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Hi, @erica , thatā€™s awful from your GP practice! Personally they should leave it to the experts if they are not going to be supportive. A simple call to ask you how you are getting along and saying that they are there if you need their advice would be sufficient. I was a bit miffed that my surgery never contacted me again after my referral, but perhsps that was a good thing. You are bound to be anxious about your surgery results but it sounds like you have a good team at the hospital and they will have a plan whatever. Good luck for tomorrow. Big hugs. X
Penny

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Thank you so much everyone, you all make me feel much better. Such a lovely supportive group :sparkling_heart:.

Iā€™m going to just listen to my hospital team and try to forget the GP call.

Itā€™s a beautiful day and the sun is shining here so Iā€™m out for a walk along the beach, best therapy.

Lots of love :sparkling_heart:

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Hi @naughty_boobā€¦ thanks so much for being here for us all. I have a question about cold capping. I went to see my oncologist yesterday, and now know that I will be on the EC-T regime; 4 x EC every fortnight, followed by 12 weekly Paclitaxel, with trastuzumab, every 3 weeks. Iā€™ve looked at the Paxman calculator, but it doesnā€™t have EC-T as a combined regime and when I try the drugs separately, The E & C return no score. I know a lot of ladies are on this regime, so wondered if I was doing something wrong. Any advice would be gratefully received.

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Good morning! I had 4 EC to start with and now on Paclitaxel (had 5 of 12 x weekly so far). After last weeks one, I had lots of redness and swelling of my face and neck for 48 hours, also ā€˜wobbly legsā€™ and pins and needles in hands and feet. Also nauseaā€¦ā€¦. Have you had similar issues? I appear to be sensitive to the majority of what theyā€™re giving me. Had a week in hospital at the end of January with Pneumonia and Sepsis.

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Hi All,

Just catching up on lots of messages!! Congratulations to our new champions :blush:

@leelee1 I have cold capped through 4 ECs and Iā€™ve had 3 docetaxels (one left). Keeping my hair was a big deal for me but I ended up losing a huge amount after my 2nd EC (on Christmas Day too :roll_eyes:) and a lot more since then. Iā€™d say Iā€™ve lost like 80% but hard to tell. The cold capping is definitely more uncomfortable since having very little hair left as I had loaaaads of hair before for insulation. I take 2 paracetamol before and another lady in the chemo suite recommended these little self heating eye masks (I have Space NK ones) so I tried that last week and it did take the edge off a little. I did think about giving up a few times due to the brain freeze but Iā€™ve kept it going. Not sure what to do with my hair, I donā€™t want to shave it but not sure how itā€™s going to look when it starts growing back through whatā€™s left?! I basically just look like Iā€™ve been electrocuted most of the time.

@genericuser1 I hope your appointment goes well today and that you manage to get all your questions answered. I write them all down in advance, and just go in with ā€˜I have some (a lot) of questions, should we start with them or shall I ask them at the endā€™ - my oncology team have been really great and patient so hopefully you find yours are too, although they know Iā€™m a nurse (although in a completely different specialty) so maybe thatā€™s why :face_with_peeking_eye: I also hope your secretary does a good job taking notes, even if he did refuse to dress for the occasion :rofl:

@erica Iā€™m so sorry about your GP experience, it makes me sad that some health professionals just have no tact! I would definitely just focus on your hospital team as they are the experts here!!

Sending hugs to everyone! Iā€™ve just had a psychology appointment so Iā€™m going to dry my tears and go for a walk (to the coffee shop for some cakeā€¦) šŸ«¶šŸ»

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Morning all

Iā€™ve been reading the thread and on numerous occasions I started to reply but then never finished my response, then the conversations moved on and Iā€™ve literally lost the plot of the the many stories Iā€™ve read!

Well done to all the new community champions for giving your time and sharing your wisdom. :green_heart:

Iā€™ve had a rough couple of weeks courtesy of the delightful treatment regimen. Today I am singing Johnny Cashā€™s ā€œRing of Fire.ā€ If I could put a hose of cold water in that area Iā€™d do it. @salbert even the top of the range 4 in 1 Germoloid isnā€™t working itā€™s unctuous magic.

Realised overnight that what I thought was a thirst quenching mildly pleasant fizzy can of pop does not like my gastric tract. Flipping reflux. Woke up in the night with what reminded me of a shaken bottle of fizzy drink. Frothing and burning in my throat and a mouthful of sour saliva despite doubling Omeprazole. Both ends unhappy so Iā€™m festering in bed this morning. Itā€™s joyous as am I. To think thereā€™s a year of this ahead :sob:. Hoping the neoadjuvant therapy is the worst part. Iā€™m trying to be thankful for my treatment but Iā€™m fed up. It all feels a bit tedious and relentless. Iā€™m trying to look forward with hope and positivity but the side-effects arenā€™t joyful and nor is the prospect of surgery on both boobs around my birthday. Iā€™ve yet to decide what to doā€¦ farewell to both in their totality or do I hang onto to the right one after ā€˜itā€™ has been removed and have an uplift to match up with my reconstructed left one. I donā€™t know. Gut is still saying they both need to go but head worries about complications of implants and the fact that radiotherapy hasnā€™t been mentioned, just potential of more chemo if residual cancer found. If it transpired I needed radiotherapy, itā€™s probably that Iā€™d have deformed looking boobs. Wish someone would decide for me.

Brain thankfully feeling better. Last week I was having a daily sugar instead of shower. Felt really out of sorts and spaced out. Nearly fell down from the top of a flight of concrete steps. Thankfully I was gripping the handrail at the time and my sister in law reacted quickly and grabbed my other arm. Close call. I met with a friend another day. I had to walk across a carpark. Felt very unsteady. I felt as though Iā€™d got off the waltzer. Weird.

Enough of my gripes. May I ask when people stated their Zolendronic acid infusions in their treatment plan. Reason for my question is that in my midlife vanity I decided to have my teeth straightened - teeth crowded and difficult to floss. What was to be 19 weeks stretched to 34. I went to the dentist yesterday and he said we are 85% there, so more trays needed. Thing is Iā€™m due to start Zolendronic acid next week with 4th cycle. If I proceed with it I canā€™t continue with the dental work. Would I be mad to defer the treatment until the dental work is finished?

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@sez Why is it the body hair always wants to be with us so much more than the head hair?!!

I didnā€™t cold cap in the end, now finished rather than 1pmā€¦ think i made the right decision for me. Thanks everybody! xx

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