Interesting

Interesting

Interesting Hi everyone,
I received this from a friend via e-mail and wondered if any of you had heard this?

Cancer update: Johns Hopkins = Cancer News
from Johns Hopkins:

  1. No plastic containers in micro.

  2. No water bottles in freezer.

  3. No plastic wrap in microwave.

Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in
its newsletters. This information is being
circulated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

Dioxin chemicals causes cancer, especially
breast cancer.

Dioxins are highly poisonous to the cells of
our bodies. Don’t freeze your plastic bottles with
water in them as this releases dioxins from the
plastic.

Recently, Dr… Edward Fujimoto, Wellness
Program Manager at Castle Hospital, was on a TV
program to explain this health hazard. He talked
about dioxins and how bad they are for us.

He said that we should not be heating our
food in the microwave using plastic containers. This
applies to foods that contain fat. He said that the
combination of fat, high heat, and plastics releases
dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells
of the body.

Instead, he recommends using glass, Corning
Ware or ceramic containers for heating food. You get
the same results, only without the dioxin. So such
things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc.,
should be removed from the container and heated in
something else. Paper isn’t bad but you don’t know
what is in the paper. It’s just safer to use
tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.

He reminded us that a while ago some of the
fast food restaurants moved away from the foam
containers to paper. The dioxin problem is one of
the reasons.

Also, he pointed out that Saran wrap is just
as dangerous when placed over foods to be cooked in
the microwave. As the food is nuked, the high heat
causes poisonous toxins to actually melt out of the
plastic wrap and drip into the food.

Cover food with a paper towel instead.

dioxins— Hiya,
I have also received this email forwarded from a friend. I hate getting this sort of thing as it makes me feel paranoid. Since I got the email I have stopped using clingfilm in the microwave…for now anyway. But in the past I have always used cling film and when I lived alone I had microwave ready meals cooked in their plastic containers all the time. I suspect this is a bit of a ‘scare’ but whether there is any truth behind it I would be interested to find out.
Rowena

— wHEN — you say no ‘plastic bottles’ in freezer, does this mean such as Tupperware too? Eg when you make food to store in freezer to heat up again later date?

Joy xxx

toxins On top of not using plastic to freeze water, we shouldn’t use non-stick pans - they contain carcinogenic compounds.

However, moderation in all things. So long as the plastic container is not in the freezer for very long, and you only cook in non-stick pans once a day, not much harm can come of using them. Pyrex glass or microwave-proof china is always better in the microwave than plastics.

Some of these warnings can be really scary.

toxins On top of not using plastic to freeze water, we shouldn’t use non-stick pans - they contain carcinogenic compounds.

However, moderation in all things. So long as the plastic container is not in the freezer for very long, and you only cook in non-stick pans once a day, not much harm can come of using them. Pyrex glass or microwave-proof china is always better in the microwave than plastics.

Some of these warnings can be really scary.

hoax e-mails ever the sceptic I have just checked the John Hopkins site and I think these stories are linked to hoax e-mails which keep being attributed there.

Oh dear how gullible people with cancer can be…I’ll check this out and report back…in the mean time I’d say stop worrying.

Jane

check out this link I came across this on another forum about a year ago and googled to find out more - came across this -

snopes.com/toxins/plastic.htm

Julie

getting it in perpsective From the John Hopkins website:

Researcher Dispels Myth of Dioxins and Plastic Water Bottles

Rolf Halden, PhD, PE
The Internet has been flooded with email warnings to avoid freezing water in plastic bottles so as not to get exposed to carcinogenic dioxins. One hoax email has been erroneously attributed to Johns Hopkins University since the spring of 2004. The Office of Communications and Public Affairs discussed the issue with Rolf Halden, PhD, PE, assistant professor in the Department of Environmental Health Sciences and the Center for Water and Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Dr. Halden received his masters and doctoral degrees researching dioxin contamination in the environment. We sat down with him to set the record straight on dioxins in the food supply and the risks associated with drinking water from plastic bottles and cooking with plastics.

Office of Communications and Public Affairs: What are dioxins?

Rolf Halden: Dioxins are organic environmental pollutants sometimes referred to as the most toxic compounds made by mankind. They are a group of chemicals, which include 75 different chlorinated molecules of dibenzo-p-dioxin and 135 chlorinated dibenzofurans. Some polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) also are referred to as dioxin-like compounds. Exposure to dioxins can cause chloracne, a severe form of skin disease, as well as reproductive and developmental effects, and more importantly, liver damage and cancer.

OC&PA: Where do dioxins come from?

RH: We always thought dioxins were man-made compounds produced inadvertently during the bleaching of pulp and manufacturing of pesticides like Agent Orange and other chlorinated aromatics. But dioxins in sediments from lakes and oceans predate these human activities. It is now generally accepted that a principal source of dioxins are various combustion processes, including natural events such as wild fires and even volcanic eruptions.

Today, the critical issue is the incineration of waste, particularly the incineration of hospital waste, which contains a great deal of polyvinyl chloride plastics and aromatic compounds that can serve as dioxin precursors. One study examined the burning of household trash in drums in the backyard. It turns out that these small burnings of debris can put out as much or more dioxins as a full-sized incinerator burning hundreds of tons of refuse per day. The incinerators are equipped with state-of-the-art emission controls that limit dioxin formation and their release into the environment, but the backyard trash burning does not. You set it ablaze and chemistry takes over. What happens next is that the dioxins are sent into the atmosphere where they become attached to particles and fall back to earth. Then they bind to, or are taken up, by fish and other animals, where they get concentrated and stored in fat before eventually ending up on our lunch and dinner plates. People are exposed to them mostly from eating meat and fish rich in fat.

OC&PA: What do you make of this recent email warning that claims dioxins can be released by freezing water in plastic bottles?

RH: No. This is an urban legend. There are no dioxins in plastics. In addition, freezing actually works against the release of chemicals. Chemicals do not diffuse as readily in cold temperatures, which would limit chemical release if there were dioxins in plastic, and we don’t think there are.

OC&PA: So it’s okay for people to drink out of plastic water bottles?

RH: First, people should be more concerned about the quality of the water they are drinking rather than the container it’s coming from. Many people do not feel comfortable drinking tap water, so they buy bottled water instead. The truth is that city water is much more highly regulated and monitored for quality. Bottled water is not. It can legally contain many things we would not tolerate in municipal drinking water.

Having said this, there is another group of chemicals, called phthalates that are sometimes added to plastics to make them flexible and less brittle. Phthalates are environmental contaminants that can exhibit hormone-like behavior by acting as endocrine disruptors in humans and animals. If you heat up plastics, you could increase the leaching of phthalates from the containers into water and food.

OC&PA: What about cooking with plastics?

RH: In general, whenever you heat something you increase the likelihood of pulling chemicals out. Chemicals can be released from plastic packaging materials like the kinds used in some microwave meals. Some drinking straws say on the label “not for hot beverages. Most people think the warning is because someone might be burned. If you put that straw into a boiling cup of hot coffee, you basically have a hot water extraction going on, where the chemicals in the straw are being extracted into your nice cup of coffee. We use the same process in the lab to extract chemicals from materials we want to analyze.

If you are cooking with plastics or using plastic utensils, the best thing to do is to follow the directions and only use plastics that are specifically meant for cooking. Inert containers are best, for example heat-resistant glass, ceramics and good old stainless steel.

OC&PA: Is there anything else you want to add?

RH: Don’t be afraid of drinking water. It is very important to drink adequate amounts of water and, by the way that’s in addition to all the coffee, beer and other diuretics we love to consume. Unless you are drinking really bad water, you are more likely to suffer from the adverse effects of dehydration than from the minuscule amounts of chemical contaminants present in your water supply. Relatively speaking, the risk from exposure to microbial contaminants is much greater than that from chemicals.

And here’s one more uncomfortable fact. Each of us already carries a certain body burden of dioxins regardless of how and what we eat. If you look hard enough, you’ll find traces of dioxins in pretty much every place on earth. Paracelsus the famous medieval alchemist, used to put it straight and simple: it’s the dose that makes the poison.–Tim Parsons

Public Affairs media contacts for the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health: Tim Parsons or Kenna Lowe at 410-955-6878 or paffairs-at-jhsph.edu.

Comment from Jane:

Don’t think there’s any evidence her of a link with bc.

Thanks Jane For taking the time to check this out for us.
Ellie

Another thanks JaneRA

It does make me smile when your ‘terrier like’ approach to shaking things until the truth drops out, turns up trumps yet again!

There was one point your research uncovered:

‘Having said this, there is another group of chemicals, called phthalates that are sometimes added to plastics to make them flexible and less brittle. Phthalates are environmental contaminants that can exhibit hormone-like behavior by acting as endocrine disruptors in humans and animals. If you heat up plastics, you could increase the leaching of phthalates from the containers into water and food.’

As I have a hormone responsive cancer HER2 positive - mine would be estradol responsive? (I presume but I am not sure) Is a hormone responsive BC responsive to this ‘hormone-like’ Phthalates?

Just another little thing for you to get your teeth into - funny isn’t it, the more you know the more you realise how little you know!

Blondie