is there anyone with secondary breast to the brain

Hi all, I just posted this on the ‘are brain mets more serious?’ thread.
Hello to all. A while ago now a forum member called KitKat wrote her ‘Brain Diaries.’ I have found them in search and am posting them here as at the time they were written I know they offered great hope and inspiration to others.
Kitkat sadly passed away many months later from other complications due to the disease that were not, I believe, in anyway related to her brain mets. She had VERY succesful WBR results.
Wishing you all the best results possible.
Lots of Love, Belinda…xx

Brain Diary Hi All
I’ve decided to impose on you all my lovely journey through brain mets as there didn’t seem anyone out there who’s done it recently/firsthand. Don’t want to scare, rather to reassure, so if you don’t want to read, stop now!

As you may know, saw the doc last week who confirmed brain mets. Hospital called Tues ( week later) for me to go in Thurs for mask and simulator for whole brain radiotherapy. Have to say, VERY impressed at speed of NHS here, also slightly scared that they felt it necessary to do it so quickly!

Mask was fine! I was worried I’d feel claustrophobic, but it was a bit like having a a warm string vest put over my face! It was only on for about 5 mins and then cooled down. Then they clip you down on the table, but the radio is only about 6 mins total, so I can do that! Easy! No tattoos as they draw on the mask!

She also showed me the MRI films and the mets were very small white spots. About 6 or 7 dotted around, but lower in the brain than I had thought. Not many in the top bit, and one a bit alarmingly near my optic nerve, but she reckons this radio will stop it inflicting any damage.

The radio will hopefully reduce them but, as usual, won’t get rid of them. Whether they recur is apparently dependent on what happens elsewhere in me, but as liver and bones seems stable for now, fingers crossed.
I start next Tues, 10 sessions over 2 weeks. Hair will go patchy and thin again, but it may not come back this time. Still, rather be here and bald, than hairy and not!

Feel so much better now its all going ahead and I can deal with it! Been working out driving rota and babysitting rota today.
Driving by the way, is off for the ‘forseeable’. basically if I ever want to drive again, the doc would need to fill in a form for the DVLA. Just going to have to get used to it, and use taxis and buses etc.

Was a bit concerned that this would in some way change me, my personality, but just going to have to try it and see. Surgery is not an option cos there are just too many.
Steroids seem to be stopping headaches and clumsiness, still a bit woozy but think thats the steroids themselves! Plus, they give me thrush so mouth back to cardboard and weight dropping off again. Mind you, I’ve got plenty to lose so no worries there!
Anyway, think thats all for now, let you know how its going next week.
Love Kitkat

Brain Diary Part 2 Hi Everyone,
I’m back! 4 whole brain radiotherapy treatments done, 6 to go and not feeling too bad!
It’s a very strange experience when you actually have the radiotherapy. When I’ve had it before on my boob and back, there is no smell, no lights just buzzes. This time there is a definite smell, kind of burning but not really, they call it ionising apparently, but my friend whose been driving me noticed it in the car! It also flashes a kind of blue light at the back of my eyes which has baffled them as its not supposed to! I think it must just be zapping a particular nerve in there somewhere! Its so quick though that I don’t have time to worry. I have to say that by the end of it, I’ll be glad to finish!
I’m feeling more weary today, and had a bit of a funny ear last night which is all down to swelling in my poor head. I do feel a bit like a bit of bacon! Hair still there, but scalp definitely feeling tingly kind of pre hair fall out feeling for those who’ve had chemo.
Anyway, will have a good sleepy weekend. My poor Mum has been away on holiday since all this kicked off and knows nothing about it, because I so wanted her to have a good holiday, so thats all about to hit the fan this evening. I hope she’ll forgive me.
Hope everyones doing ok
speak to you when I can
lots of love Kitkat

2nd part of Kitkat’s brain diaries…

A new bike for Christmas Hi all

wanted to tell you all about my early xmas pressie as I’m so excited and proud of myself!

I got a big shiny purple bike! With lots of comfortable padding and good suspension for my poor ole bones.
Been out with hubby and son and did 2 miles and felt really brilliant and alive! Fantastic, and its exercise and a bit of independence as I can’t drive.

Would definitely recommend it despite my mothers worries about my bone mets!

Loe Kitkat (exhausted but happy)

More Good News from me too! I wanted to share my good news too with everyone as sometimes we forget there is hope!
I’ve recently had CT scans on brain, abdomen, neck, pelvis and there is NO EVIDENCE OF METS !!! For those who don’t know I had liver mets and multiple brain mets (see profile) and am so overjoyed I can’t quite take it in. My onc said he was pleasantly surpised as he had expected there to be some activity!!!
I do still need to have bone scan as he thinks any cancer activity here might be the cause of my recent anaemia but I can deal with bone mets! Its not the bone mets that see you off is it.
Feel like the huge cloud I’ve carried around has been lifted, for a little while anyway.
So don’t give up, hope my news cheers you as much as it has me!
With love
Kitkat

hi everyone. had my 1st wbrt yesterday. the team told me i would be tired n sick etc after treatment but omg it hit me like a ton of bricks an hour after. the most worst headache and sickness. as anyone else had it come on them as quick. need to mention it monday as i cant eat a thing. thanx pink 1

Hi everyone
Delighted to say I have finished my 10 day course of WBR which really wiped me out -and continues to make me feel quite shattered. Hopefully though I will now start to get some energy back. I certainly need it as I am moving up north 4 weeeks today! Am very luckky that family, friends and colleagues have been so fantastic over last few weeks - particularly on the meals front - never my forte anyway! I do hope you are all enjoying this weekend and aren’t in any great discmcomfort just now. It does help to know you are out there and know what its like to go through similar. I always dreaded brain mets - I guess we all do - but at least I am having treatment and there are other treatment options available to me and am still (,more or less) me! Take care all xxxx

Hi louise and thanks for your reply it’s been a huge comfort x

Am currently in the Western in Edinburgh awaiting removal of my brain mets tomorrow. It’s in the back of head also and to be a 3 hour op followed by recovery in ITU. Hope I come thru well like you!!!

I’ve to start WBRT in three weeks which I’ve heard is nasty so thanks for the honest warning. Not looking forward to it but hey ho.

Have also been told that this surgery is a walk in the park compared to my 11 hour reconstructive surgery last year.

Anyway I’ll keep in touch and let you know how it goes xxxxxx

love to all,

Lynn

Pink hang in in there and I hope things ease up for you xxxx your incredibly brave

Twinmummy, well done to you and a house move lol you mad woman. Glad your through this though and on the mend xxxx

god bless all of you out there xxxx

thanku all. saw my radio doc yesterday and got anti sickness and pain for the horrific headaches. i feel much better than i did. number 3 2day 2 more to go. got speech therapist cuming to c me next week. its the not being able to talk thats the hardest. kids have bought me a whistle because i cant shout ha. twinmummy you are a fighter to go through what you are goin through and move house omg i only moved once and said never again.i am from halifax and having radio at st.james is anyone near by. will keep in touch everyone n keep them chins up pink 1

signet
Hoping op has gone well
Pink, my headaches and sickness started within an hour too which I wasn’t warned about. Steroids helped enormously. Tiredness hit me the second week and hair fell out 3 weeks later. That was back in middle of Nov and I’m still waiting for hair to grow back. Fortunately it doesn’t show as the hair on top covers it.
Best of luck all
Louise

Hiya all,

Well typically my luck I got sent home. An emergency case arrived and took my surgeon and a cardiovascular surgeon all day until 7 to handle. They cancelled mine at 3 and surgeon came to speak at 7.30. They can’t fit me in till next Tuesday now so I’m home. Back in at 11am for surgery Tuesday!!!

Bloody stuffed my face and bought half WRVS lol but met a lovely lass whilst there. Got chatting a d turns out her dad had just had his breast cancer surgery on the Monday and his lymph nodes removed. Ended up going to see him on the breast cancer wards. Worlds apart from neurology. Beautiful so had coffee for hour and exchanged numbers. He turns out to be a surgeon himself and a very inspirational man. I googled him and was able to read all about him and his career. Funny seeing his photo. So I’ve got his mobile to keep up with progress. So it wasn’t a wasted trip. I made friends with so many folk. Spent most my time caring for the others who’d had ops. Nurses said they’d miss my help lol bloody NHS!!!

I could nver do nursing! The bedpan, bag, commode bit is just scunnering lol and the toiletting side is too much yikes

anyway I hope your all ok guys and glad of the info re sickness and headaches. Least am forearmed. Xxxx

Hi everyone,
I was rushed into hospital in February 2008 and 3 brain mets were diagnosed. My husband was told that I might not make it out of hospital, and relatives rushed to my bedside. Surgery was not an option, as I would not have survived. I was given large doses of steroids to bring down the oedema and then a week of WBR. It was a bit of an ordeal, but it worked and, although I had lost a stone in weight and was weak and shaky when I came out of hospital, I slowly got better.
As regards life expectancy, I read that average life expectancy on diagnosis of Inflammatory Breast Cancer (IBC) was around 6 months when I was diagnosed in 2006. (My GP told me a couple of years later that he hadn’t expected me to last more than 2 months at that time.) A month or so later I was again admitted to hospital as an emergency when I developed septicemia while on taxotere, and I could have easily died of that.
All in all, I’m not supposed to still be here, but I am, and I now see life expectancy figures just as a challenge or even as a benefit to be exploited. I claimed on my life insurance policy back in 2008, and I have just realised that I can also claim on my pension policy too. I get Disability Living Allowance under the special rules. Sometimes it feels like I can walk on water - particularly when my oncologist looks at the latest scans, says they are clear and comments “Well, it looks like you’ve done it again!”
When I was first diagnosed, I looked at the survival figures and swore under my breath. But now I realise that they are just statistics and not predictions.
I do hope that all of us continue to survive and enjoy life.
Love to everyone, Lynn F
Just one PS:
With everything else going on at diagnosis of brain mets, it’s important to remember that you must surrender your driving license to the DVLA, and if you do drive, you won’t be insured.

lynnferg your words have helped me sooooo much. i 2 was diagnosed with inflamatory b c in aug 08 at 36. i read it was the most aggressive. went straight onto EC chemo to reduce swelling and opted for a double masectomy. i had 8/9 lymph nodes involved and the lump was only 2mm but told the little ones are the worst. then had 12 weeks of taxol and 3 weeks of radio. did ok for till oct 09 and had difficulty in breathin and off we go again it was on my lungs. went onto xeloda for 3 month which didnt work had to have right lung drained twice. then i was put on taxol and carbolatin for 6 month. in september 2010 got fab results that there was no evidence of disease. then the week b4 xmas i lost my voice and couldnt swallow. had head mri and results were i have several brain mets and cant be operated on. had wbrt last week but symptoms no better yet.got ct scan 2morrow 4 my oncologist as i think more chemo is on the cards. my breast care nurse just said your life expectancy is alot less but alot less from what.i have packed drivind in which i find very hard but certainly wouldnt risk it. i 2 get dla and incapacity benefit.takecare pink 1

Just wanted to praise all you strong women for your determination to keep striving forward…
You all sound amazing and even though I know you have no choice with your treatment choices it is utterly amazing what you are suffering.
Your hope for the future with your loved ones is something I want you all to achieve. You deserve the best now!

Offering you my admiration and the warmest hug ever.
I’ll keep reading your stories…

Sleep well tonight.

Wx

Hi girls,

Had my op on Tuesday 1st Feb and it was a success. Nobody warned me about the horrific pain and sickness that followed for two days in HDU. Ouch! I wasn’t allowed steroids either just morphine and morphine based drugs now. I was in for a week total and my first day home yesterday was spent spewing lol with blinding headaches. I had CT done after op due to pain levels and I do have distended areas of swelling/oedema on the brain so it’s to be expected I suppose.

Hoping wound heals then I’ll get my meeting with onc in next three weeks to set up WBR - oh happy days ha ha

hope you are all doing well and thanks Lynn for your amazing post re life expectancy!!! And thanks to the other lovely lady who wished us all well!!! It’s these types that keep us all upbeat and positive!!!

Hugs to all, gnight xxxx

Lynn

Really glad you felt your op was a success.
You sound as if it was particularly horrid at times!
I trust these next days are calmer for you as you try and recover.
And that you feel less sick and weary.
Keep strong and facing forward which is all we can manage at times…

Great, truly great to hear your news.
Do hope the other women here are faring ok too.

Best wishes to you all tonight.

Welsh girl xx

thnku for cheern me up, dx yest with brain mets, in hosp so whn go home will read posts again, but hav bn inspirztn i needed today. Seein consultnts this mornin xx

fantastic news signet i hope u soon feel better. i had wbrt 2 wk ago and just cumin round from it. i didnt think it would effect me as bad as it did but hey we still here and fighting. my ct scan came back as just the same as the 1 in sept 10 so i suppose thats good news. all hair gone my head looks like a boiled egg ha so i went to town and treat myself to sum new hats. c my oncologist 3rd march and c wot she as to say. i been having alot of shoulder and neck ache but it could be with sitting about for 3 wk. takecare every1 and keep up that fight godbless u all pink 1