Ok someone has just sent me an email saying that there is evidence that women shouldn’t drink water that has been left in plastic water bottles to warm up, as it causes toxins to be realised into the water and that this has been found in breast tissue. The implication being that this causes breast cancer.
What do you think? Has anyone got anything else on this. It doesn’t seem to be substantiated.
Pauline
Hi Pauline,
So, a new one to add to my list:
Close relative with breast cancer - yes, my mother;
Childless or few children - yes, only one child;
First child when not in the first flush of youth - yes, I was 34;
Periods started early - yes, age 10;
Alcohol - yes, at parties and perhaps in the evening after work;
Lack of exercise - yes, all those broken New Year’s resolutions;
Stress - yes, I’ve sometimes been stressed;
Deodorant - yes, I’ve used deodorant for years;
Dairy Products - yes, I put cow’s milk on my breakfast cereal and in my tea;
Chemicals - yes, I’ve not only injested chemicals but I am made out of chemicals (biochemically-speaking);
Alpha radiation sources - yes, I used to be a science teacher;
Beta radiation sources - yes, I used to be a science teacher;
Gamma radiation sources - yes, I used to be a science teacher;
Cosmic rays - yes, I’ve flown to holiday destinations;
Aliens - yes, I’ve taught a few;
Getting one year older every year - yes, it’s true, look at the wrinkles;
Being female - yes, I’m definitely all woman - my husband can vouch for it;
Being alive - yes, I’m alive…I’m alive…I’m fantastically alive.
There is evidence for the first five and the last three in the list being risk factors for breast cancer. The rest are, as far as I am concerned, speculation. Just in case you are wandering about whether I spend my time sipping warmed-up water out of plastic water bottles, the answer is NO.
Best wishes,
(New Year’s resolution - exercise more.)
Sue
I was dx on 28th Nov and have spent a lot of time on this site and others plus newspapers and wonder if maybe the powers that be think us poor ladies have got nothing better to worry about so they are being helpful and taking out minds off bc Ha Ha
Karen
Supersue - love the list!
Hi
My tuppence worth …
A nutritionist at the Breast Cancer Haven said it is better to buy glass bottled water because there is no reaction between the water and the glass. As I recall she spoke with authority about the processes our tap water goes through before it gets to our taps and in particular was concerned about the oestrogens that cannot all be removed in these various processes so all kinds of things are left in there but no toxins exactly. However, to those of us who have/had oestrogen positive tumours we should avoid - hence Tamoxifen, Arimidex and the like, and being banned from HRT, Red Clover, Black Cohosh* etc. and also plastic bottled water unless you have some means of telling it has only very recently been bottled.
One lady attending the session had already read up about this and bought a water filter that fitted under her sink, bit like a softener I suppose - cost around £200 and DOES filter out the nasties apparently whereas the table top ones like Brita probably do not remove much more than scale.
We have not invested in a filter yet but I’m thinking about it. Right now we have a softener and also a hard water “drinking tap” and I use the hard stuff for the kettle and any other cooking.
*When frantically searching for a remedy for “the hotties” I found an Australian Bush Flower Essence called Mulla Mulla - you wouldn’t believe the effort it took to get the producer to confirm that the essence is free of plant oestrogens, they’re no less harmful than other oestrogens.
Sorry - the whole thing is a right royal pain in the doodah sometimes isn’t it?
D
Sorry - that was more than 2d, d’you want a refund? Or should I have one?
As a thought, this was discussed at work when this e-mail went around about 6 months ago (they seem to dredge them up every once in a while).
Men also get BC. Not so common I know but bear with me… I know more men who go to the gym or play footie etc than I do women. *Sweeping generalisation* - women would be more likely to freshen a water bottle or use a new one than a man would. So why isn’t there a huge increase in men getting BC then?? This was a discussion we had a work between my boss and his wife, he has had the same plastic bottle in the boot of his car for ages, she takes a fresh one each trip. This is just another scare story that makes us feel like somehow its all our fault.
Shannon
(A previously health-conscious, low-fat, low-dairy person who exercised regularly, who now eats what the heck she fancies!)
Ok - this is a rant! I havent posted on these forums for some time now because I am so fed up with the way we are being stopped from sharing information that can only benefit all of us.
I am posting a link now because i think it is so important. We have enough to contend with bc without all these ridiculous scare stories that abound. This one is a hoax. It has been discussed previously and I am surprised the moderators are not aware of it and publishing this link themselves. I guess removing other useful links takes up their time. PLEASE PLEASE do not remove it. I know not many have replied to this thread - but many will have read it and we just dont need this sort of thing.
www.hoax-slayer.com/plastic-bottles-cancer.html
Pauline - please, this is in no way getting at you for bringing it to our attention.
signed: one fed up bcc member
dawnhc
Yes it’s a hoax…I’ve read this before on snopes(dot)com.
Hi everyone
We are aware this type of issue can be very worrying. There has already been a lot of useful information and sensible advice posted by many users but to provide reassurance we will ask the team of specialist breast care nursers to post next week, with their opinion on this issue.
Best wishes
Sam
BCC Facilitator
Thanks Dawn for posting this information.
Jane
Not sure why you need a team of specialist breast care nurses to confirm it’s a hoax…
Think your post is fantastic Supersue. Thanks for taking the time to post all those
Rx
WOAH - no idea my post would uncover so much… well so much!
Love the list Supersue and appreciate everyones posts.
I’m only in one of the high risk categories, as far as I can see it’s nobody’s fault. I really don’t want my daughter to be exposed to ANY risk factors. I will try and research what I can with my non-science brain for her benefit. But there is so much stuff out there.
love to you all Pauline
Wizzbaby - where on earth did the evidence come from??? IMHO it is total …t. What about a bottle of orange juice that has been left out of the fridge for an hour or so? Also what toxins have been found in breast tissue?
Olivia
I’ve no idea I haven’t copied the email that was sent to me, just wondered if anyone else had come across it and whether there is any evidence. I thought if anyone should know or be interested then BCC was the place to ask!
Pauline