September 2016 starters

Me again, September Ladies - after I posted this morning I couldn’t stop thinking about how the hair loss is affecting some of us, and how hard it is to come to terms with it and deal with the practicalities, particularly for people on tight budgets. Although I picked up all the information leaflets in the hospital and read them before I started the treatment, they don’t really go into much detail. So apart from the hair loss and the nausea, it didn’t really sink in how the treatment could affect me until I had my meeting with the nurse just before treatment started, when she explained about the range of SEs I could get, and the importance of oral hygiene and skin and nail care.

 

Even then, I had no idea how much ‘stuff’ - apart from the wig - I was going to need to deal with the hair loss until I was actually in the situation, so it has been a challenge for me to stay one step ahead, get the wig fitted and order the other headwear I was going to need in time. But I am all too aware that I am one of the lucky ones because I am able to afford what I need, whereas I know that some of you are struggling to cover the cost of all of this on top of the cost of normal life. I also have the luxury of time to plan ahead a bit, as I have no children or other caring responsibilities, and my employer has also allowed me to take sick leave during my treatment (as things turned out, there’s no way I could have worked during my first cycle anyway). I therefore want to do anything I can to help others who have lost or are losing their hair who are not so fortunate as me, even if it is only point them in the right direction of what headgear they will need and where to get the cheapest available. I’ve therefore done a bit of searching around the forum and online and have identified the following sources for the basic essentials. Here goes:

 

Sleeping Caps

It is essential to have a good supply of these for wearing under hats and scarves and in bed at night. You probably will need at least a dozen of these to allow for washing and wearing and layering to add warmth. As the winter draws on, you’ll find you need to wear at least 2 or 3 in bed to keep your head warm. I am already wearing 3 in bed (then that’s probably just me!). Another Member has advised on another thread (see Tips and Tricks) that the cheapest options are the undercaps that Muslim ladies wear under their hijabs, which can be obtained by searching on ‘Hijab Undercap’ on Amazon. These cost from as little as @ £1.88. The cheapest specialist chemotherapy ones are available from Annabandana and cost @ £2.15.

 

Turbans and Hats

There is a wide range out there with several companies specialising in this type of headgear, but some of it is horrendously expensive. The cheapest turbans and hats I have found are from Annabandana, they look smart, come in lots of colour choices and cost from @ £4.00 - £6.00. You will probably also need at least a couple of outdoor hats for the winter, because you won’t want to risk your expensive wig in really horrible weather (I took a bit of a risk wearing mine on a walk round Sutton Park on Sunday, the weather was fine and dry if a bit breezy, so I don’t think I’ll be doing it again!!!). Hats 4 Heads has a good range at reasonable prices (e.g. Beanies from around @ £5.99, Fleece hat @ £9.99).

 

Scarves

These are likely to be a much cheaper option than purpose made hats and turbans and pre-tied scarves, widely available from markets and high street shops. And if you already have some suitable scarves, they’re free! The Breast Cancer Care leaflet on Chemotherapy and Hair Loss (downloadable from this site) explains how to tie a basic scarf, and there are also demonstrations of scarf tying available on You Tube.

 

I hope this mini practical guide to chemotherapy headgear options is of use to those who are losing their hair despite their best efforts with the cold cap. I also hope that anyone struggling financially has been able to get the support they need - if you are really worried about this, there is advice on the Macmillan website.

 

All the very best to everyone, virtual hugs to all.

Hi everyone

I thought I’d give a little update on how I am SE wise and hair wise.

I’m now on day 7 and feel a million times better. Some of you may know I was immediately unwell as soon as I got home from the hospital after chemo. I had the most dreadful nausea and diarrhoea which lasted 3 days, although thankfully I haven’t been physically sick at all. Day 5 I was ok but tired and yesterday for day 6, I managed to get out of the house for my wig appointment.

The wig appointment went so much better than I thought. I did cold cap last week but found it brutal and am now thinking that when I collect my wig I will just shave my hair off. My own hair is a longer style pixie cut so was short enough for me to be properly fitted for my wig. We’ve found a very modern style that’s very very close to how my own hair is and after the initial step of putting it on, I genuinely don’t think people would be aware that I am wearing a wig. The assistant at the store was just lovely and understanding and for anyone in the Glasgow area, I would therefore recommend LA Hair Solutions in Gordon Steeet.

My wig will arrive in 7-10 working days, by which time I’ll hopefully still have hair to get back up there and feel ok, otherwise I’ll pop a hat on and know that my wig will be put on and coming with me anyway.

Today at day 7 I feel my most normal since last week. Managed to eat a normal breakfast and lunch and have had no nausea at all. So I’m hoping it’s now for me that I know days 1-5 are my bad days and with a bit of luck, this is my strength building again.

Dawn - you’re a star! Thanks for the headwear tips. Especially about needing lots of sleep hats. Like you I’m always cold but like to sleep in cold bedroom so will prepare to wear multiple sleep caps! Xx

Thanks sue, that makes me feel better ! Has anything been mentioned about a picc line? X

Awhh that’s good sue, just another worry I had added to my mental list !! Xx

Hi Ladies,

I really wanted to post a link to a hair place which I went to visit yesterday. It’s quite privy however I really think this option should be provided to ladies when then receive any hair loss information as for those who may be able to afford it, it’s a god send. I for one am so much more at ease knowing now that I have this as a back up if the cold cap doesn’t allow me to retain a good covering of hair.

Here’s the link:
lucindaellery-hairloss.co.uk/chemotherapy-3-managing.php

They do free consultations and are really lovely. It’s a family run business that has been going for more than 20 years and there is no hard sell at all.

SJ
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Hi ladies

Has anyone had a dull pain in their head once hair starts coming out? My hair has started to shed, not alarmingly (yet) but for the last 3 days I’ve had a dull pain in my head, not a headache as such more a pain that is worse if I look down or make any sudden movements. I’m at the hospital today for chemo so will mention it. Just hope it’s nothing sinister!
Sarah x

Thanks Sue. I’ll up the water intake xx

Hi ladies,

 

I’ve finished chemo now but I’ve been reading your posts and thought you might find this link helpful. It also includes some discount codes.

 

breastcancercare.org.uk/information-support/facing-breast-cancer/going-through-treatment-breast-cancer/side-effects/side-effects-of-chemotherapy/breast-cancer-and-hair-loss/hair-loss-what-to-wear

 

H.x

Afternoon Ladies - Some of you may have noticed that Lisad has started a Nail Care thread on the Top Tips and Practical Support part of the Forum so I thought it might be useful to start a new thread-ette on Hand, Nail and Foot Care here. As you all know, chemo drugs can do horrible things to our nails, and those of us who started treatment earlier in the month may already be feeling the effects (check out Chemotherapy Side Effects information on Macmillan website: macmillan.org.uk/information-and-support/breast-cancer/treating/chemotherapy/side-effects-of-chemotherapy/possible-side-effects.html for details). However, there are things we can do to limit the damage by taking more care of our hands, feet, nails and cuticles now.

 

Lisad and I have both ordered in a nail care product called Onicolife drops for chemo nails from LiveBetterWith. But at £14.99, it isn’t cheap, and nor are most of the other nail, hand and footcare products out there if we want to avoid anything containing parabens and phthalates, which we are advised to do, particularly those of us who are hormone receptive (see Sue-HS posts on Chemotherapy - Tips and Tricks). I’ve therefore done some trawling around to find the cheapest paraben and phthalate free products that you might want to try.

 

Nail Care

Almond oil - I was tipped off about this by a friend - is a cheap and effective nail conditioner, costing a mere £1.59 from Boots, similar prices from other online retailers. So if you do nothing else for your nails, get some of this. For details of how this can benefit your nails, see article in The Telegraph 20.11.11:

telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8901166/The-cheap-secret-behind-the-5-million-hands-almond-oil.html

 

Cuticle Care

Sadly there do not appear to be any really cheap cuticle creams available that are both paraben and phthalate free. The best I could find were:

Burt’s Bees Lemon Butter - £5.84 from Zest Beauty, £5.99 from BigGreenSmile

Yes to Coconut - £6.39 from BigGreenSmile, £6.99 from Boots

 

Hand Creams

Palmer’s Coconut Oil Hand Cream is only £2.50 from Boots, also available from major supermarkets at similar prices. Burt’s Bees also do paraben and phthalate free hand creams but they are more expensive, typically @ £8.99 though you may find cheaper deals online. N.B. Not all Palmer’s products are paraben and phthalate free, but the Coconut Oil Hand Cream is.

 

Foot Creams

I confess I have been plastering my feet in Boots intensive foot cream to try and improve their condition, and no the product I have been using is not paraben and phthalate free! My priority at the moment is to get rid of the hard skin on my heels, soften my feet and treat the fungal infection in my big toenails before the dreaded T cycles start! However, once my feet are in better condition, I will focus on keeping them that way, this time using products that do not include any nasties. Unfortunately, just like cuticle cream, affordable paraben and phthalate free foot creams are hard to find. Burt’s Bees Coconut Foot Cream is the cheapest I’ve found so far, costing £8.26 from Amazon.

 

These are the cheapest products I could finday, but if anyone else has found something cheaper let us know!

 

Dawn

 

Sorry something went wrong with this post!

Ladies - forgot to mention Aveeno range of skin care products are on special offer at Superdrug at the moment, hand creams are £3.45.

I second the recommendation for Aveeno products. I use them anyway so am just carrying on.

Also I know people look for paraben free face and hair products. I already use La Roche Posay face products which are paraben free and (I think) SLS free. They are on the expensive side when bought in Boots but I buy mine online from either Escentual or Feel Unique as both sides regularly have offers on them. Escentual have a third off La Roche Posay until 31st October at the moment.

Hi all,

Another really good range is balanceme.co.uk/our-story

They are paraben, sulphate etc etc free.

SJ x

Hi Lisad,

They sent me a few free samples which are gorgeous. I will be placing an order soon :slight_smile:

S x

Thanks to everyone for all their tips on paraben free beauty products! Now I am starting to look a bit pasty faced and wondering at what point I will lose my eyebrows and (Heaven forbid) eyelashes, I will check out your suggestions. I haven’t used make up in years, not because I am a thing of beauty but because I have sensitive skin and did not like the feel of make up on my face. So I will be needing a complete set of new products (more expense!) and looking for things that are easy to use, not too heavy and suitable for sensitive skin as the main priority.

Hi Dawn, I have become a recent convert to mineral make up, I use Barefaced Beauty foundation and setting powder. Both very light and reasonably priced. If you don’t like the feel of heavy make up it might be worth trying. They do travel sizes pots which are good to try it out.

I dread losing my eyelashes too. Eyebrows I can kind of cope with even though I hate the heavy drawn on look that seems to be in, but not my lovely long lashes!! I use almond oil to remove my eye make up so I’m hoping that will help to condition and keep them.

Lisa, I would imagine so. Any natural oil would have similar effect.

Hi ladies,

Eye lashes - if you are on FEC-T, you may be lucky - if on FEC throughout - you might not be, no matter what you do. If the hair follicles shut down then nothing will keep them going. I lost my lashes and with clevery applied eye liner pencil you can achieve a lot.

I used the Urban Decay 24/7 Glide On Eye Pencil, which is great for sensitive skin and waterproof. It stayed on all day, which was great. I also used their ‘naked’ palette of eye shadow to give a natural look to my eyes, as using two colours will help to give more definition to the eye, whilst looking natural. This is me at chemo 5 with no eyebrows or lashes…

                                                                5th chemo 11_8_16.JPG

 

Hugs

Sue xxx

 

 

                                            

 

Hi All
Just wanted to share with you my new comfie wear around the house and bed wig. The hair is attached to a fabric hair band, I got it through the post today and am happy to use as an alternative to my scarves.
I have a slightly more glam wig for out and about, which is not so comfortable. But I do like to have alternatives to suit my mood.

simplywigs.co.uk/catalogue/hair-pieces/filter/headband-hairpieces/index.html

I ordered the
Hot Stuff B Gisela Mayer -
You are entitled to the vat off option as well. Just like post surgery/masectomy bras are vat free.

Hope my link works. If not just copy paste it
into Google.
Vx