SURGERY AUGUST 2018

Hello ladies
I should introduce myself. I’m Nicola, am 42 and I was diagnosed with breast cancer on 20 July through regular screening with the family history clinic. Shock has subsided but disbelief still lingering, can’t believe I’m only 42 and have BC. I know there are loads of women get it younger, but women in my family who have gotten BC have always been older.

Anyway, had a WLE and SNB on last Tuesday 28 August, discharged on the same day. In a lot of pain at first, mostly from the SNB site and then from the ‘space’ left where they removed the tumour from. Was on codeine & paracetamol which took the edge off, now just on paracetamol.

Haven’t been out of the house yet, was thinking about venturing out today. What’s anyone else’s experience of recovery post op? I know everyone’s different but I feel I need some perspective. I’ve dabbled in some light housework but don’t want to do too much and injure myself. Husband has been awesome doing the majority of chores and my 2 boys (11 and 14) have helped out too. Am I maybe being a bit precious?
Thanks in advance
Nicola

Hi Nicola. I am 3.5 weeks post surgery - WLE and SNB too and finally beginning to feel near to normal, though the tiredness still just hits me in the face and says whoa slow down !!! Everyone is different - like Quaggie I haven’t had a OMG moment either but I am slowly getting my head around this - it just came out of the blue no family history… be kind to yourself, move at your own pace take your time, listen to your body. Xx

Hi Nicola ?. I had a slightly different procedure (mastectomy and SNB) 12 days ago and I feel pretty good now. I have been trying to take it easy, and did overdo it one day early on, but have found a good balance now. As Quaggie suggested, the exercises really help. Just do what you can and ease into things.

I’m also on the younger side, at 33. I can relate to your comment, Wombat, as I have no family history at all and no risk factors either (non smoker, non drinker, “young”, fit and healthy). I was totally shocked by the diagnosis! I’ve just been taking each day as it comes; it’s remarkable how quickly you adjust. That being said, don’t feel bad about having your husband and kids help out. You’re recovering from surgery!

I hope you’re starting to feel a bit better, Quaggie. Remember, you’re not on your own - we’re all going through this with you and are here to support you! Did you get any feedback from the surgeon about whether he/she felt confident about the margins this time?

Good luck with the infection, Susie. Hopefully it is finally starting to heal and settle down now.

Love and gentle hugs to all ???

Hiya all

Quaggie don’t feel bad about not shopping until you feel better or have no food left in house. Wouldn’t want you to starve. Lol xx hope you’re resting up.

My sister had double heart bypass last year and and then my diagnosis this year so we’ve developed a “can not be arsed” attitude lol and do what we want when we want.

Phoned BCN this morning and got hospital appointment. Theve given me a few more days antibiotics and told to wear good support bra. Says a seroma and a bit of infection. Doesn’t seem overly concerned and it was my surgeon I saw.
Back Friday to see him. (All his fault anyway he did it) lol just kidding he was brill.

I’m feeling a bit more positive now got to get head in gear and tell myself it’s all better from now on.

Hugs x

Hello all

 

Sorry I have not been on for a while. I am still at home recovering from my full node clearance and just taking each day by day resting and doing some household chores in between ( light chores)

My underarm is still sore and puffy . It has now been 5 weeks since my operation.

 

I have been out and about and found being out for most the day quite exhausting! I have no idea what it will be like when I return to work and will have to go back to doing a phased return again.

 

My tamoxifen tablets are now kicking in and I seem to be suffering from pre- menopausal symptons such as night sweats , headaches , tiredness and fatigue. I do sometimes forget to take them daily and find myself having to take them at different times during the day. 

 

I am still waiting to hear from the oncologist and when my radiotheraphy sessions are to commence however , think this will be October time.

 

My body is exhausted having had to go through 2 operations  ( May & August) and I feel as if I have aged 10 years.  Not feeling good in myself at all . I am doing the arm exercises and just that. My weight is suffering as I continue to ‘comfort eat’  with me piling on the pounds and lack of exercise . The motivation I used to have when I was well before my operations has just gone out the window and wonder whether it will be restored.

 

My GP has told me not to worry too much about my weight for the time being and just concentrate on healing and get through all the treatments. Once this has been completed, I can start to work on myself and review my levels of fitness and diet.  

 

At the moment , I dont want to engage in the activities I used to do when I was well i.e social gatherings with friends , etc as I dont mentally feel up to it and I know it will take a long time for things to settle and get back to normal . I think I am still feeling a bit low/ depressed after everything my body has gone through however , I know that I need to snap out of this.

 

For now , I will just continue to be kind to my body and recover until I am well enough and hopefully go back to being that person I was before my cancer diagnosis

 

I hope you are all recovering well  and for those who have had recent ops, things in time will get better . Time is a healer . We can all get through this :slight_smile:

 

Sending you all big hugs

 

M xx   

  

Hi

Thanks for the replies ladies. I ended up going out but was quite nervous, couldn’t believe it. Last Monday was the day before my surgery and I swam 40 lengths, cleaned the house, picked up my mum from the train station 17 miles away and went out for lunch. A week later and I’m worried about going to a couple of local shops ?. I wouldn’t have managed walking to them all so drove instead. By the time I got back to the house I was sweating and took your advice Quaggie, I had to go for a wee rest, but I did feel accomplished. Isn’t it strange how much cancer changes things, and so quickly too? Got the guy in the supermarket to pack my bag for me, felt embarrassed doing so though so explained I’d had surgery and had to be careful. I was so aware of anyone coming near me in case of a collision too.

 

Quaggie, got my appointment through today for my pathology results, it’s Monday 10th September. Been faithfully doing my arm exercises too, I feel they make a difference to my range of movement. I’m sorry to hear you’ve had to have a second surgery, I hope you’re doing okay recovery-wise.

 

Wombatwoo, it’s great to hear your experience a couple of weeks further along, there is light at the end of the tunnel. I think what you said about listening to your body is vital - I have always moved at a million miles an hour but getting cancer has made me slow down and listen to my body. In the early days after diagnosis it meant allowing myself to be sad and cry and having a jammie day if I needed to, and not scold myself about it.   And it’s equally applicable now when I need rest and recuperation.

 

ElliesMum, I like your idea of easing into things, very much my style at the moment ?. I have a history of rushing into doing too much too soon and then suffering the consequences  (after childbirth and previous BBR) but I think getting back into it slowly is defo the order of the day. I hope you enjoy a steady recovery too.

 

Thanks again for your wisdom ladies, lovely to chat although under sucky circumstances,

Nic xx

Hi everyone

 

I had all my dressings removed today and was told that my wounds are healing nicely.  It also meant that I got to see what my new boob looked like without anything covering it - I must say it looked pretty good really, just like my real one but a bit bigger (apparently it will shrink slightly).  I also got to see my reconstructed nipple for the first time and that looks pretty good too.  So all in all a pretty good day today.  All I need now is to get rid of the pain and not to feel exhausted just going up and down the stairs!

 

Nicola - I think it’s great that you’ve managed to go to the shops only a week after your surgery!  I’m two weeks post op and can’t really do much at all.  I haven’t been out of the house yet (apart from my hospital appt) but I’m hoping to walk round the block soon.  I’m not too worried though as like my consultant said it’s like having two operations in one go (mx and LD flap recon) so I suppose the recovery will take longer.

 

 

First of all, sorry to all you ladies that I had intended to reply to your posts of your progress but events rather ran away with me and I got focused on other things. Briefly reading though seems many things have gone well for you all but I need and want to do a deeper read of your posts. The community spirit is so helpful to us all but I have give more and get off my lazy backside - more of that later!

 

So, before I settle down and have a good read of your stories, below is the summary of mine, bit longer than intended but gives all the info and maybe some of it may resonate with you or give you comfort that how things are going are usual, etc, you know what I mean.

 

Read/comment as you wish.

Cheers!

 

 

May 2018: Diagnosis DCIS 5cm left breast

21st June: SNB 3 lymph nodes removed, all clear

16th August: Mastectomy and LD Flap reconstruction left breast

 

Hospital stay was 7 days/6 nights. Recovered well from op, was in surgery for 6 hours and in recovery room for 3 hours, so back in hospital room at 11.30pm. Eating well from first morning after op. Had catheter in for first 36 hours. Medication during stay was Oxycodone, Gabapentin and Paracetamol. Had a very high temperature 48 hours after op, blood tests showed no issues but was put on IV Antibiotics for a couple of days then moved to AB tablets. Had 3 drains – first removed on day 5, second removed on day 6 (very painful removal), third removed on day 7, the wound of which then leaked and burst (very messy!) resulting in very large padded dressing applied. Discharged later that day.

 

Since then have been resting as directed, and napping a lot during the days. Found a reasonably comfortable sleeping position after a couple of nights at home (combination of lying on/cuddling v-shaped pillow and normal pillow so lying on right side to rest the left side on the pillows). Taking paracetamol and codeine tablets every day but will switch from codeine to ibuprofen when codeine runs out, as advised. I had actually stopped taking painkillers regularly so only when I felt the need but consultant and nurse told me off yesterday and said I must take them regularly until further notice. Also wearing a bra 24 hours a day, even for sleeping (although tend to wear a crop top for sleeping), to give support to the new boob even though it’s fully numb, as is part of my back from the LD flap and I have a very visible dent in my back!

 

Dressings were all removed one week after discharge and a seroma in my back has been drained 3 times since discharge (28th August: 300ml; 31st August: 100ml; 5th September: 50-60ml and will probably need more drainage next week - consultant says this is normal). Bruises have healed well, scars are looking good (one across the left side of my new left breast - fortunately skin and nipple were spared - and a long one from under my arm round to the middle of my back).

 

Really trying to follow rules about NO housework etc but find myself doing little things. Again, was told off for that, as that has contributed to the pains/discomfort along with lack of painkillers regularly – and it was always told to me that pain/discomfort would last for quite some time as it was a major op). So back on the regular painkillers (every 6 hours) and doing almost nothing at all, unless it’s very, very light activity (boyfriend has been extremely good at doing all the housework and he’s the chef in our house anyway – and he’s my chauffeur to/from appointments). But I am doing the exercises three times a day and will be seeing a physio at end of September.

 

Got most of my histology results yesterday: DCIS 51mm of which 0.4mm was invasive. Evidence also of Lobular Neoplasia (LCIS). Still waiting final results to see if receptors are ER or PR. Will be seeing oncologist in 2-3 weeks to discuss potential hormone therapy as risk of BC in right breast occurring is 4 times higher than someone who has never had BC. Expected hormone therapy might be Tamoxifen or Anastrozole, but to be discussed with oncologist, as I’m going through my natural menopause since a couple of years.

 

So summary is: all is as expected so far, pending results on receptors next week and what that might entail as any next step. Everyone (friends/family/medical staff) tell me I’m doing very well. I’m not having too many emotional meltdowns but they do crop up every so often but only for about 5-10 minutes at a time. Have a weep, get it out of my system and move on. Despite the pain and discomfort am  enjoying the time to read, watch lots of TV and rest, and not having to work for at least another 2 months (was always told by my consultant that I would need 3 months recovery).

 

One other thing I will add. I was lucky enough to have medical insurance through my employer so all treatment is breing done privately. I loved having my own private room at the hospital (I’m not good socially or where there’s noise) and a really good food menu (it was more like a hotel despite the medical stuff!). As is the case with all medical staff, whether private or NHS, they were all totally lovely and I have so much respect for all they do.

 

Finally, I have no regrets having had a mastectomy with reconstruction. Size of the DCIS ruled out a WLE and the recon, although smaller than my remaining breast, at least gives me a good cleavage when in a bra and top, when I look down at myself! (My OH was right when he said I’d most likely not be happy being flat on one side). My consultant has suggested possible lipo-filling next year to bring new breast up to size or have breast reduction on the right breast. Will see how things go.

 

Quaggie - enjoy King Lear !!! Hope you don’t need to nap half way through ??

Jane - hope your doing well - I didn’t use my medical insurance as I wanted to make sure I had a breast care nurse and access to all the support networks, but it sounds as if you got all this too… ?

It is definetly autumn today a real chill in the air - I might have to have a nap under a blanket today ??

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Hi Jane.

I used private medical insurance too and i did have a breast cancer nurse but a loss of communication on a change over to a new one has left me without one now. A few calls and i am sure i could find out her name and have the contact. The main advantage i think was that the chemo was done in a much less crowded room but i think most of the treatment would remain the same. My reconstruction surgen told me me the same hospital and team would do the work if i was nhs as to private but of course i did get my private room.

 

Like you I was on the verge of the meopause so hormone treatment needs to be decided. I was positve for everything and see the oncologist next week to find out the nest step. This should be letrozole as far as i am aware.

 

Recovery from surgery is slow and steady. 3 weeks after the DIEP and have dressings on for another week. Things are improving but movement is still not easy. Getting out of bed ad off a low chair take time. I am not allowed to do much at all but do want to start a few things from week 4. I am not good at seeing things that need to be done and not being able to do them. Using a vacuum cleaner may be out of the question but i have started grabbing a dustpan and brush for odd bits. I want to get back to doing the shopping but heavy bags are a few weeks off yet. My fridge is full of fresh food bought my husband that keeps needing to be binned as he buy too much. Lovely he has made the effort but he is not used to it.

 

Sleeping on my back still and proped up but not sure how long i need to do that for. Control pants and sports bra 24/7 are needed for 6 weeks post op so i still have 3 more weeks of that unfortunately. My skin needs to breath and is very dry and itch even though i use moisturiser.

 

All the best to everyone and a painfree recovery

After being diagnosed in January, and surgery delayed for family and other reasons I was put on Letrozole in March. Finally I was able to get my surgery booked in for 20th August. I saw my surgeon today and was told that the right breast mx was relatively successful, in that he removed 7 cancerous lumps and a total of 3 out of 13 lymph nodes were also cancerous. 

Because of the spread I was told that the oncologist wants to see me to discuss chemo, radiotherapy and hormone treatments. Previously we had hoped that chemo would not be necessary. But I will have to discuss it at the appointment. 

What is playing at the back of my mind is that my husband has stomach and liver cancer and is probably due to start another round of chemo in Novemebr. It would mean that we are having chemo at the same time and not knowing how we will cope as it is just the two of us. 

 

Not really hoping for an answer here, but I just need to get it off my chest somewhere where people will understand. 

Hi Tigermum. So sorry to hear that you are both going through this. Talk to your BCN and your oncologists there may be support available for you both from Macmillan to help whilst you both have treatment and a form of care package may well be available. The main thing is to ask for help and not try to struggle on alone. Your GP may also be able to assist.
I hope it all goes smoothly for you both ?

Quaggie, I’m so sorry to hear you’ve been having a bit of a tough time with things. I think it’s totally normal to have a wobble - or five - at this stage of treatment! Many of us are still digesting the news and to see such a young public figure pass away from the disease is really shocking. Good on you for heading out to the theatre! I hope you had a fabulous time ?

Waiting for results is so frustrating! I’m not the most patient person at the best of times ? and had been told I would receive results at my appointment on Tuesday this week. I saw the surgeon and he is pleased with how everything is healing… but my full results aren’t back yet. I have to wait another week! Oh well. I did get my drain out, which is something. So pleased that is gone now!

Tigermum, it sounds so tough to be dealing with this rubbish at the same time as your husband! Hopefully you can arrange your treatment plans so that you can support each other.

Thanks Jane, Christine and Linda for updating us on your progress. It’s really helpful to hear how you’re going and more details about your recovery.

I hope you’re feeling better soon, Mavit.

Love and hugs to all! Xox ?

Jane - I’ve just read your post from this morning and it was good to read because nearly everything you said is the same for me, I suppose it would be as we have had the same surgery.  I also tried to reduce my painkillers and was told not to by my consultant.  I’m trying not to do anything apart from my exercises but it is hard although my husband is being really strict with me and won’t let me do anything.  I’m also sleeping with a pillow at my side and still find it quite unconfortable when I’m laid flat in bed - my husband is sleeping in the spare room as he’s scared of knocking me in his sleep.  It sounds like you had a fairly good experience having your op done privately - I think I was quite lucky because I also had a private room even though I had mine done on the NHS although I don’t think my food would’ve been as good as yours!  The only time I’ve been out of the house is for my hospital appointments and I would love to go out for a walk but I don’t know if it’s too early - have you been out yet?

 

Tigermum - I’m really sorry to hear that both you and your husband are going through cancer treatment at the same time, that’s really unfair.

 

Best wishes to everyone x

Quaggie, the T-Rex arm made me smile. Im the same, always have my noob protected. Even when out and about with my boyfriend I walk on his left and slightly behind, he’s my boob guard!!!

Thought Id just drop by and offer an insight to how it can feel 4 months after surgery. I was thinking that at least that way you lovelies might at least know what type of things to expect. I know we are all different but a bit of inside knowledge is a grand thing.
I had a WLE and 3 lymph nodes were taken at the time as well. Margins and nodes all good. I do a lot of yoga and the day after surgery I had a home visit from the hospital at home nurse, I was already able to move my arm freely. I did have a large area of numbness in the general area of where my blip was and also around my SNB wound. This slowly wore off over about 6 weeks. Fast forward to now and i am 9 weeks post rads.
I still have a tiny bit of tenderness just to the left of where my blip was, some nerve pain every few days (feels like hot pin pricks) and around my scar from the SNB it can sometimes feel like Ive pulled a muscle. But all in all things have settled down and the rad tan only appears when Im hot and bothered.
So just a simple overview really of whats happened all these months down the line. Hopefully those of you who have recently had the same procedure as me can now know what kind of things to look out for over the next few months of recovery.
Sorry if I’ve gone on!!!
Good luck all of you xxxxxxx

Hi Jane

 

I’m pleased you didn’t say you’ve been for a 5 mile walk or something similar otherwise I would’ve been worried that I was doing something wrong.  I know what you mean about feeling guilty watching watching our OH doing everything and not being able to help.  I stopped wearing the lovely stockings about 3 days ago and it was great - I hated wearing them!

 

My surgery was on my right breast which is the side that would be next to my husband in bed.  I was surprised to hear that you’ve been sleeping on your front, I don’t think I could do that as it would be too painful.  I’ve been sleeping on my back which, to be fair, is also quite painful - we can’t really win can we?  Actually, I did manage for the first time last night to sleep on my left side for a while which I couldn’t do before.

 

Hope you get to your manicurist soon - I’m lucky that I don’t have to go out to get my nails done as my daughter is a beauty therapist! 

 

 

Quaggie. So glad you enjoyed King Lear. I imagine Ian McKellern was an absolute dream to watch. Xx

Lovely to have an evening at the theatre Quaggie - so glad you enjoyed it.

 

I rarely go, but last time I went was about 2 or 3 years ago I think, and I saw Simon Callow, who was doing a one-man show about Shakespeare.  I was ‘entertaining’ an Austrian lady who was passionate about Shakespeare, so we also did The Globe tour.  I enjoyed both outings, even though I would never have chosen them for myself. xx

 

 

Jane - I’m surprised there’s any room in your bed for your bf, it sounds like it is full of pillows! 

 

Quaggie - thanks for the pillow tip, I didn’t know pregnancy pillows existed so I may look into that although I did actually have quite a good night’s sleep last night with my one pillow at my side. 

Hi all
Hope everyone is doing ok.
A quick update, antibiotics worked but still hot red slightly blotchy noob and small seroma. Saw surgeon Friday 7th Sept he’s happy with progress dosent need draining but he keeps telling me to get good supportive bra.
I have and been wearing them all day and comfort tops at night.

Will be seeing oncologists next week so i pop in the radiotherapy forum next all the support and advice from you lovely people is a great help.

Hugs to you all…onward to the end…xx