Survivor's research into post surgery lingerie-can you help?

Hello

I am a younger woman who was diagnosed in 2010 with triple negative breast cancer.

I am conducting a brief survey as research for a new post-surgery lingerie brand, an endeavour I am starting in response to my experiences of buying lingerie after lumpectomy, mastectomy & reconstruction.

I’ve made a short survey, with a few multiple-choice questions and ask if you wouldn’t mind answering for research purposes.

I really value your input, and tried to make the survey easy to complete; just 12 quick questions. It can be reached from the link below:

surveymonkey.com/s/ZKQVSBF

Guided by your responses, I hope to create lingerie which will improve the self-confidence and the quality of life for women who have experienced breast cancer.

The survey responses will be treated confidentially and your privacy is absolutely guaranteed.

Thank-you in advance.

just bumping this up after filling in the survey monkey thingy

Hey moorcow, thanks so much for the bump! I’m really grateful to all who’ve taken the time to respond so far, as each woman helps me to grasp a better idea of women’s wants & needs after breast surgery…

Big thanks to all & keep 'em coming!

Warmly

Hi,

I have completed your survey but would just like to add something. I have had lumpectomy but am still trying to buy/wear non-underwired bras. Apart from the fact that they are difficult to find my pet issue is that none I can find have pretty straps. Summer is coming and I really don’t want wide white straps looking like something a 90 year old would wear showing under my pretty strappy summer tops.

I know this is a trivial thing compared to everything else we go through, but still feel better for the rant!

Lynda

Hello Lakeslover

Thanks for sharing; I will add this into the pool of anonymous responses.
BTW I don’t think that your comments are trivial - the experience of a cancer DX means we are plunged into having to embrace changes of our self identity too… I found that my sense of identity was really challenged after my Dx, when I had to reconsider the way I dressed because of surgery’s impact, and felt deeply dissatisfied with the choices available to wear to support my changed breasts. So I don’t think trivial the dressing dilemmas women have trying to maintain a sense of self whilst going though treatment, recovery, etc and accepting their changed bodies. I consider it an important part of the process. But what do others think?

Hi Buddhawolf
I have just completed the survey but would just like to add
I have had a double mastectomy without reconstruction
I find wearing bras uncomfortable, so I buy cammi tops and stich in pockets, but I also buy rouched and cowl neck tops and go bra free, also rouched tankini tops are excellent as I don’t have to wear 2 heavy prosthesis, I am happy to send pictures of the ones I have
Good luck in your new venture
Mandy xx

hi buddhawolf
i may not be in the age group you’re targeting, but what i want are some nice vests!
i had double mx no recon & now have lymphoedema so wear a rather fetching corset
the only vests i’ve found that are comfortable are men’s ones - great!
would need to be quite high at the front & wide straps, but you young things might wear them as tops, too, i guess
& i suppose it’d be possible to make them flat & also make them with room foor breasts or prostheses
v limited market perhaps …
good luck with your endeavour - great idea

Hi

I tried to fill in your survey but I don’t really fit into either “no boob” or “reconstructed boob” as I am halfway through my reconstruction & no bra on this earth would fit me at the moment as I only have half a boob!!

But what I would like to say is that I’ve had 6 years of wearing a prosthesis (prior to my reconstruction) & my main gripe is that all the specialist don’t make many (if any) bras in my size 30B. The ones they did make resembled an old dishcloth!! I don’t understand what the problem is making small sizes, I can’t be the only small lady this has happened to. I ended up buying ones from M & S and sewing pockets into them which never really worked.

My other main gripe was the price of the “specialist” ones, particularly the swimwear, extortionate prices for something that’s probably only worn for two weeks a year.

Anyway I’m longing for the day now that I can just wear an “ordinary” bra again & that day can’t come sooner!

lbx157

Good evening all,

Another big thanks to all who have filled in my survey - I’m taken aback by the number & quality of the responses; though still need more to gain more precise view of needs.

BTW - Pretty thin decorative straps feature high on my desired design list!

iamok - I hope to make camisoles for post surgery, but this will be determined by demand - I would love if you could send images over of the ones you find useful… it would be helpful to see what works for you.

lbx157 Thanks for the additional information! To gain experience of the post surgery lingerie industry, I am working with an online post surgery lingerie shop. I’ve encountered the issue of sourcing bras with small back & larger cup ratios frequently… Also when I trained as a wire-free bra fitter, it was a question I raised myself in my training. I am conducting this research (for myself) to try & gain a better insight into the sizes that women are requesting, so thank you!

norberte - again, thanks for your experience - its important to me to hear, and will make note of your suggestions.

Here’s to everyone having a good healthy week ahead,

Buddhawolf

Hi Buddawolf

My daughter is studying contour fashion and has done quite a lot of research into this producing designs for her course If you want to contact her could put you in touch
love poppy x

Hello Poppy

It would be great to be in touch with your daughter - I am currently looking for pattern cutters & designers to refine my ideas with, so it is very timely & kind of you to offer. Is she training at De Montfort or London College of Fashion or…? I shall PM you to talk further…

Warmly
Buddhawolf

Hi Buddahwolf

I have just completed your survey and would like to wish you all the best with your endeavours. I would agree with the pretty strap request! I have found most of the bra’s available are quite ‘industrial’, and the ones which are prettier are much more expensive!

Best wishes
Joan

Hello,

I filled in your survey yesterday - good luck with your venture. We definitely need people like you, who are interested in designing bras for us.

Just to add, there are bra straps on the market that you can buy for use with the 3-way mastectomy bras. They’re the ones with straps that can be altered for halter-neck style, cross ways style etc. They usually come with those plastic, invisible straps as well as the self coloured straps.

The additional bra straps I’m thinking of are usually metal ones, and are really pretty. They might have coloured crystals on them, diamante etc. I’ll do a search for them, and paste the links into another message here. The only thing I’ve found is that the post surgery 3-way strap bras seem very stiff as opposed to other post surgery bras, and the fabric can make me a little sore, until I’ve washed the bras a few times to soften them.

Anyways Buddahwolf, like I’ve said, good luck with researching lingerie for us, and please let us know how you go on. I filled my email address in, at the end of your questionnaire.

With much love,
Shelley xxx

Hello again!

Here are some links to pages for pretty detachable bra straps, like I mentioned in my last post. Mods, hope it’s ok to post these links - I dont want to break any rules :slight_smile:

mybeautifulbrastraps.com/index.php
sassystrapz.co.uk/
glamorousbrastraps.co.uk/

Shelley xxx

hi there

I’m not sure what you age group you call a younger woman. I’m 48 now and was diagnosed at 45 and certainly don’t want horrible frumpy bras (although I often have to resort to them through lack of choice). I understand why you are specifically targeting younger women but quite honestly I think women in their forties, fifties and sixties want nice underwear too so would be interested in what you have to offer.

The main problem I find is the incredibly limited choice. Even when I went to a specialist shop there was hardly any suitable and hence you end up with what fits rather than what you want.

The biggest problem I have found is that bras don’t go up high enough under the arms. this is a problem because of 1) my scar (and the bra then rubbing on the scar area) and 2) because of a small dog ear/fold of skin (which I understand is not uncommon following a mx).

The other problem is that, for some of us, it’s nicer to have a wider strap on the shoulders to help. I have a shoulder problem following all the surgery and don’t want the strap digging in. But again I’d like that strap to be attractive not some horrible thing.

Swimwear is another nightmare. I’m quite tall and I had the choice of one swimming costume in the shop. The rest were all too small. So I’ve ended up with something I’d never have chosen.

Don’t know if any of that helps but what you’re doing sounds great! It’s bad enough going through all this to then end up with horrible frumpy underwear. It hardly helps the body image.
Elinda x

Hello all

Sorry Ive been a bit quiet today; it was my father’s memorial day, and I have been in touch with the feelings around his loss. As it is close to my mastectomy anniversary, this day comes with a lot of emotions…

elinda45 - I am using the BCC benchmark of 45 & under as younger women Dx’d with breast cancer; however your comment about women of all ages want nice underwear is valid , and what is appearing in my survey’s results. Youth is not limited to the young!

Shelley - thanks for the tips & links. You - in fact all of you who have offered suggestions- really highlight a key experience as a designer: you need people’s feedback in order to design well for people.

Poppyd - holding you in mind, as I read about the treatment you’re having at present. Wishing you the best outcome.

Buddhawolf x

Buddha, you said, “I am using the BCC benchmark of 45 & under as younger women Dx’d with breast cancer; however your comment about women of all ages want nice underwear is valid”

You don’t stop wanting attractive, sexy undies on your 46th birthday!

Absolutely Ninja, I agree with you. I know for certain that as my age advances, I still wish to wear beautiful lingerie. I do not wish to exclude anyone, however, as I say (re-working a quote from Oscar Wilde really loosely!!) Youth is not limited to the young!

My comment was only said in response to elinda45’s query ‘I’m not sure what you age group you call a younger woman’.
As I was under 45 y.o. when diagnosed, BCN’s, surgeons & BCC staff called me a younger woman. In fact I was initially discharged and had to elect to have my lumps removed as my BC was missed after Mammogram, ultrasound & biopsy because of the density of my breasts - and this was attributed to me being a younger woman. Through BCC I went on Younger Woman meet up forums for women 45 & under. I therefore adopted this definition when describing myself, as it is commonly used to describe women who develop BC at an age which is less common (though this too is changing)

That desire to wear beautiful lingerie didn’t leave with my BC Dx - and in fact it spurned me onto wanting to do something about it! - and certainly wont with age. I’m sure I’m not alone.

BTW, here’s a little food for thought I came across yesterday, on the topic of age, beauty & lingerie. I think it ties into our discussion:

lingerietalk.com/2012/04/23/bordelle/ageless-beauty.html

Have a good evening all …

Buddhawolf

Hi, I have just completed your survey and just wanted to add that I would like to see more A cup bras available. Debenhams have started to make their own mastectomy bras that look lovely, and Matalan do nice ones too (both are reasonably priced) but they start from a B cup.

I would also like to see some choice in strapless bras. I have got one (the only one I could find available)but it’s not very good sizewise and is really quite uncomfortable. The bit that does up is also really chunky so it seems more like a surgical appliance than an item of lingerie! I wear it though because I want to be able to wear vest tops in the summer without flashing my bra straps.

Good luck with the venture,

Sunnyday

Thanks Buddawolf

Best wishes for your venture

love pops x