Why do I feel like this

My dear AJT

I am SO GLAD you have posted on this forum. A great place to share your thoughts, feelings, difficulties, fears, anger even. Anger - Yes. I’ve just posted an apology elsewhere for my expletives in a past message. Get a bit carried away, at other people having to go through it as well as the effects it’s had on myself, so have to keep my language in check !! 

Not enough that you and your hubby have had to cope for so many years with the worry of his cancer. (May I ask what type your husband has). You now have your own to deal/cope with - a double whammy. Life really is soo unfair sometimes. I would have done the same as you ref having all the lymph nodes cleared to give me some peace of mind. Well done in getting through that and your rads. I didn’t require rads or chemo, just had both mastectomies 9 months apart from two seperate primaries. That was nearly 10 yrs ago now.

Yes it does change you. I’m not the same person I used to be and wont ever be. My essence is the same, but my strength isn’t, and I’m talking mental strength more than physical. But . . . I am stronger from IT in other respects. Far more compassionate, understanding, loving. It’s a potentially life threatening disease so when you’ve actually experienced it yourself, it has and is bound to have a lasting impact on you as a person and your life.

People still get up my nose with the things they come out with such as " You’ll find someone who loves you as you are". My thought response being “Mmmm still single but with no boobs!! If I don’t like how I look, I’m not gonna be happy with someone else looking at me fullstop”. They’re trying to be supportive in their own way, but sometimes without thinking. It’s the same with what you are saying about going back to “Normal”. That “normal” has gone. You now have to settle to that you now have a “new” or “different NORMAL” and embrace that. You or others canNOT expect you to be the same after such a major massive trauma.

Also AJT - you’ve now been released from being under the watchful supportive eye of a close medical team for many months. It’s only natural that you now feel “on your own”, having been severed from them and their apron strings so to speak.

That’s a fantastic step you’ve taken in attending the “Moving Forward” course. I wish it had been around when I was going through it, but there was very little. It may have helped me cope better, which I hope it does you. Plus, it puts you into direct contact with other similar women. You could make some really nice friends from your unfortunate experience - I hope you do. There’s an immediate bond/understanding between you all.

Just as we understand you on here darlin. You waffle, sob, rant, complain all you want. (I often do :-)! as many have witnessed and supported me through). It’s a pleasure to meet and hear from you. So please keep posting to keep us in touch with how you and your husband are.

Much love

Delly xxx

 

Oh my gawd Alison. Crikey - I’m having to keep my expletives well under control with all the oh so sensitive information you’ve just provided me, and all of us on here. Jeez darlin, I feel totally, utterly “Humbled” by what YOU have and are having to go through, and both you and your husband and your son.

I’m sooooo glad you posted here when you did, and I can so get that you read it for 8 weeks before you responded, be it late night reading “fodder” - good word by the way, can so so relate to fodder.

Flip Alison  (the “flip” is very polite speak for me!!) - I wish I lived down the road from you and could/would hopefully be that much more use and help to you. Alas I’m not. I’d come and give you a very much needed massive hug. But i’m giving it to you right now anyway. ((((xxx)))). So you are waiting on the 20th, for your husbands results. We are hanging on with you.

I appreciate your kind complimentary words to me Alison, but as I said, I truely feel humbled with and by what you are going through sweetie. Please, please keep in touch with us on here as to how YOU and your hubby are doing. And hey - you come on and ramble all you like girl. It’s exactly what this forum is for. We’re here for you to have a rant or sob to. If you can’t let it out elsewhere - come and do it here.     Please Alison.

You’ve got me all emotional and teary - thats not a bad thing - it’s good. Just shows I’m human!!

Stay in touch

Dellywellydingbloomindong xxxx 

And Yes. SueHS, who you sent your reply to in “Anxiety” is a truely abfab wonderful lady. Incredibly supportive despite what she’s been and is going through. YEY Sue. Love yers xxx

Hi Reply, Your sign off made me smile so much! It’s lovely to have a smile on my face, forgotten how good a natural smile feels! I now have the privilege of belonging to a group of people who all belong to the same club. Not one any of us wanted to join but we are in it anyway! When I read my post back to myself it looked like something from a soap opera! I have become almost accustomed to bad things happening and Delly you are right when you say that people mean to help but say the most awful and insensitive things. My favourite /worst one is 'God only gives you as much as you can cope with! ’ If someone even started to say that to me now I would probably murder them! So if I carry on living with it then he will just keep dumping it on me!? Unbelievable! Also, 'You’re strong, you deal with thing’s. No I am not strong. I am at my weakest point at the moment. I have come back down to earth with a bump! Now I have to get up and start all over again. I am really looking forward to my Moving Forward group tomorrow as it has come at just the right time. Perhaps these lovely Breast cancer care people already know how these things play out. I am sure thats the case.I’ll let you know how it goes. I will be reading posts and replying regularly now Sally. You are a wonderful lady and I am so glad that you were kind enough to reply to me. You have a personality that climbs out of the screen along with your warmth and friendliness. Thanks again,speak soon and Take care. Alison xx

Hi Sue HS, You are so kind to spend so much time and energy in supporting me. I have read through your earlier posts and I cannot believe what a dreadful time you are going through ! As if being diagnosed with breast cancer is not enough you now have to worry over your job. What a heartless creature your boss is! I really hope you can get this sorted quickly as you need rest,compassion and kindness not being treated so heartlessly by this cruel person! You are so amazing to have the time and compassion for me and others while suffering so badly from so many things all at once. Tba kyou so much Sue. I come from Newport in South East Wales and was picked up on Breast Test Wales screening. You get recalled to Cathedral Road in Cardiff where you have another Mammogram,biopsies etc and then back the next week for results. I was very lucky to be seen by a consultant Mr Eifion Vaughan Williams from the Royal Glamorgan Hospital (Not sure if I am supposed to mention names and Hospitals, if not I assume someone will remove them or let me know!) He took in my whole cancer stricken family situation and said he would do my op in 5 days time as I was at the point of topping myself by then. He also did my lymph node removal in 3 days for the Same reason. He was empathic,compassionate, kind and extremely good at his job. Also the breast care nurses have been wonderful. He told them to ring me a week before I was due to get my node results as 'There isn’t any point in making her suffer anymore than she has to. We have her results so put her out of her misery ’ Through my infection and checkups I have only had the very best of care and also my radiotherapy at Velindre Cancer Hospital in Cardiff. My local hospital is the Royal Gwent in Newport but I will never regret travelling 40 minutes away to get such amazing care. I will take youe advice and ask my bc nurse about counselling. I am overwhelmed by the amount of kindness and support You have given me and I will be reading and taking note of the posts on here. I feel I have found the perfect place to settle my thoughts. I really do hope you start to get some good news Sue. You must be absolutely drained by it all. Please take care of yourself and from the bottom of my heart,thankyou for all your kindness and compassion. I too am here if you need to talk at any time. Sending you lots of love and Cwtches (a Welsh word for hugs! ) Alison xxx

Sorry Delly ! My auto correct on my phone keeps changing your name to Helly or Sally! Apologies. Hopefully it will learn a little quicker now! Xxx

Sue - just wanted to say good luck with first session today. Come on over to the October rads thread. Have been thinking of you and that employer of yours and hope they trip themselves up. Xxx

Hey Sue - apols for my asbsence.

How did you go on today with your 1st rads treatment?? Are you okay flower?? It’s a horrible thing to have to go through on your own.

I feel really flipped off (polite word !) for you with your job situ. Soooo sorry Darlin girl. I sooo hoped something could have been done.
Sooo, is it now plan B? You’re own bizz to build on, maybe something else “employed” as well to keep something coming in. Not easy as, I’ve found myself at our age

Much love

Delly xxxx 

Hi Sue, AJT and all

Sue - So sorry I haven’t yet replied to your pm. I’m not in fine feckle at all. Struggling in a major downer again - since early May. These horrible downers put me in a state of none anything - stagnation - NOTHING moves forward or gets done. I soo wish some of you I speak to on here lived down the road or in the next town, so we could be there to support and bolster each other up. Especially we singletons. That’s no direspect to you marrieds with family, but it’s that much more tough when you’re on your own.

Forgive my ignorance Sue - but having been self employed for so many years, I know nothing of employment issues. What are or is ACAS?? And also, are you “still” working at the mo’, having to work some kind of “notice”, or have you basically been “let go” and now unemployed and not working??

I’m sooo glad you enjoyed your w/end with your Kent friends and you felt able to relax without, as you say “performing”.

Just out of interest - How did ou meet Mr T?? Sounds like something from Sex and the City!!! Haha lol!

Yeh, I can imagine, see and feel your soft “mole fur like” regrowth. I’m gonna be very outspoken here with ref to your thoughts to carrying on with your shaven look. I haven’t ever seen how you used to look WITH hair. You have a very, very lovely face flower. Please do not take offence to this, but if I were you (and I’m not a vain woman), I would let it grow back a degree. I’m a “feminine” lesbian. Not that that has anything to do with you and me, but could likely be a barrier/turn off with potential male partners. I don’t know how better to put that in my all my care to wish to !!! But you look pretty gorgeous to me, anyway.Who did I say - Sharon Stone !! HaHa

Saddens me to know that you, and so many other women, have to go through what you are, with chemo and rads. Then even “more” some with your employment issues. And even MORE than that, in that you’re on your own. That really really SUCKS.

Love yer sweetiepie. Hope you can find the strength to battle

Much love Dellywellydoodah xxxx  

Um No Sue flower, I don’t have a partner. Haven’t had since lost my 2nd boob, 2007. My part recon - 2014 - gave me a boost, but I haven’t yet completed , due to other stuff and aforesaid repeated downers.

So, it is that you’re working till the end of the month. That in itself must be difficult. Am sooo glad you took matters up with CAB. I of course, hope it works out well for you. 

Yeh I took note you live near Brighton.

Ref your hair - yeh, I fully get you saying “they either like you or not”, I DO so get that, and that you’re “done” with trying to meet others expectations. Can fully understand.  BUT, I’m also trying to give you a different constructive critical take on YOU, woman to woman - do you, or are you getting what I mean on that?? And Yeh, it’s really about what we feel suits us as a person, isnt it. Basically - my thoughts FOR you??     You look better WITH hair - thats just my own personal opinion. Freely take it or leave it - no offence.

 

Much love xxxx

 

Hi AJT - any news on your uderarm lump? Have you had it looked at yet? and are you feeling any better. Glad you backed me up with Sue’s hair. She’s such a lovely looking woman - with or without hair. YEY Sue.

So sorry to hear about your son, with ref to depression. It sounds like Bi-Polar to me. I can apprec you’re concerns for him as a Mum. Cwtch!!

Thank you so much for your very kind, sweet thoughts. Glad I could be of some support and help darlin. Think I’m often better at supporting and helping other people than myself, and that’s not being in any way arrogant whatsoever when I say that. Just the way some of us are. But it can also mean we can be our own worst enemy. Anyway - what you said counts - means a great deal in fact. As does you offering to being there to talk to - thank you so much for it sweetheart. It’s very generous of you and touching to me.

Much love Delly xxxx  

And Hey - T H A N K S. I appreciate you too AJT (plus that old slapper of a woman Sue too.hawhaw !! Good looking tho’ lol Suehoo xx)

xxx

Hi Sue,
Just thought I would say hi, as a mutual BC Angel suggested I might have some common ground with yourself. I was enraged by your bosses narrow minded and uncaring attitude towards you situation. I am a mortgage broker (which in truth is realky just sales in another form) so like you have monthly targets, etc and can appreciate how quickly the tide can turn on you if the results slip. I like you are the main bread winner and have been for many years, so understand the pressure you put on yourself as well. I am at the very early stages of this whole BC journey, as still waiting for the op to have the damn thing taken out so as yet have not been off of work. The company I work for is different in as far as it is a large 1000+ employees organisation but is still family owned. My immediate bosses have be brilliant so far but HR did try to put me in contact with a 3rd party company for occupational health which I mistook to mean occupation therapy. It was not. In essence it is a firm who works for them to ensure that they stick to the letter if the law with all things relating to how they handle and treat their employees. It is worth speaking to ACAS to see if they have anything similar with in their organisation. You are protected under the equal opportunities act and also under the disability act as a cancer sufferer. So your employer will need to tread very carefully. It might also be worth your speaking to an solicitor who specialises in employment and contractual law. I used one many years ago and they gave me an initial 1 hour free to see what they could do and to ascertain if there were any ground to pursue the employer. I suspect that there are still firms that offer a free initial consultation.
Either way it is really good that you are starting something else, if there is anything I can do to help on that side please feel free to let me know, I am sure that many of the other women on this site are business women and would be happy to help and guide you too. In the interim period do check on the PIP to see what you eligible for and you may also be entitled to careers allowances etc, if you are not working. I have many clients who seem to have crazy amounts of benefits so I would pursue this side as much as you can. CAB will hopefully be able to guide you on this side if not a call directly to DWP. If you have had a career in sales, you will like me know that you can set you mind to anything and sell anything and one idiot of a boss will not keep you down. I wish you well and offer you my encouragement and support and love when ever you need it.
Best wishes, Capel mum x

Hi Capel dear friend

Was that mutual BC “angel” reference to me, MOI?!! You’re too kind.

I’m so glad you’ve contacted Sue. I just felt you may be able to help each other out, combine your information on a mutual situation and two heads being better than one etc.

Difficult enough having to deal with just the personal physical and emotional effects of this gawd awful disease in itself, without its repurcussions into other areas of your lives e.g. work, which greatly saddens me.

Much love to everyone

Delly xxx 

 

Hi Everyone

Sue - on the hair front. You talked about keeping it as it was, i.e. “shaven”. What I was really meaning was that a TOTALLY shaven is quite a “harsh” look for a woman. But yeh, so got that a" pixie" look would be that much less hassle and sooo many women suit it - dependent on their face shape - and that you probably would so suit it.

Suggest you check out/take a look at Jamie Lee-Curtiss’s latest look for “Scream Queens” on E4 at 10 tonight. She’s sporting a short grey crop, combined with a pair of very suiting trendy specs. She is now in her late 60’s, possibly early 70’s even. Still looks enviously A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y  “stunning”. Gorgeous look.  Well ‘I’ think so!! but who am ‘I’ to humbly say/judge!! I’m a lover and appreciator of women!!. So, YEY Sue, go for it gal!! 

Hope you read Capel’s thread to you and that you can both be of some help to each other ref. employment difficulties. Hope you didn’t mind me suggesting she contacted you with ref to, but felt she may be able to add a lot to your info.

 

Hey Feisty - I may not always understand what you’re going on about, but it’s GOOD to see you woman and hope you are well dear friend. You “managing”/coping with that hubby of yours??!!

 

Much love to you all

Doolallydelly xxxx 

Hi Delly, I am in a worse position now unfortunately.Breast nurse told me over the phone that she didnt think it was anything to worry about. Didn’t need to book me into clinic even. I was still worried so went to see my (unknown) GP. Worst thing I could have done! He couldn’t find anything and asked me to point it out Then he prodded underneath my arm and said he could feel (something).At that point I went into desperation mode and started to hyperventilate almost. He left a message for my bc nurse and than asked why I was taking it so badly,I needed to draw all my strength together. I said that I had used all my strength getting through the last 6 months. He said Ok,What is the worst case scenario? Do You think you are going to die! YES I said that’s exactly what I think!! Anyway I phoned the bc nurse later and she hadn’t been able to catch him up until then. She said she would speak to me after the Moving Forward course today. She was too busy to stop though and I have felt so let down and even more anxious then before. I needed to talk to her but wasn’t given the chance. She is a very busy lady I.know though. Any way, I have an appointment in the breast clinic on Tuesday. A long time to wait when you are worried! It hasn’t changed in a anyway at all. I am back to square one as far as over the top,all consuming terror is concerned! Thebladybthatbdoes the Moving Forward cause was amazing Delly. Even rang me this afternoon as she was concerned that I was so so anxious. Thanks for listening to me when you have problems of your own . Hope you feel a bit happier now yourself.Thanks a wonderful place to let off steam and get to talk to kind and understanding people. Feel like I am carrying a ton weight on my head. Hopefully on Tuesday I will get some sort of idea of what’s going on. Thankyou for being here for me. I am here whenever you need to talk. Take care Alison xx

Hello darlin AJT - flippin 'eck. Firstly, I cannot believe that person said to you, your own GP in fact. Asking “Why are you taking it so badly - Do you think you’re going to die”??!! That’s a loada Bo**ox AJT.  And so you are now having to wait for next Tuesday to have it checked out.

AJT - You’ll have to forgive me on this. I’ve checked back and you’ve made references to Radiotherapy, which then means you’ve had some form of surgery. That a lumpectomy or more major mastectomy??

Please RE-fill me in - I’m sorry if I’ve missed out on your treatment so far flower. I don’t know if it’s because I speak to many others on here, on many different posts and don’t keep up with it adequately. Sorry lovey. Bare with me please and fill me in. Thanks for.

Much love Delly xxx

Thanks for getting back to me Delly. I was diagnosed from my 3 yearly mammogram. For the confirmation of the wonderful news on April 12th! Cutting it down a bit, I had a lumpectomy to remove a win grade 2 tumour in my right breast. The upper and outer quarter. Was silghtly in the sentinel node they removed so chose to have the other nodes removed in May which were all clear. Chemo was not necessary which was wonderful news . 15 radiotherapy sessions which finished at the and of August. Bad infection after 4 sessions and ended up with 8 days in hospital on IV antibiotics and anothe op to clear the axilla area where the infection was. Now on 2.5 Letrazole for 10 years! New lumpish thing is under left arm and not the bad one! Pete has his 3 monthly scan today with results next Thursday. My cup runneth over…? Non stop in this place I tell you! ? Hope your day goes well for you Delly. You are such a support. I’m here when You need that support too. I try and give back and not just take so don’t want to overload you. Here for you anyway. Thanks! Love Alison x

Hi again AJT/Alison - I feel truely humbled Darlin, with all you’re havin to go through with your husband, yourself and son. Brings my “stuff” into perspective. Thank you for your support. I totally understand what you say about wanting to “give it back”.

Thanks for the update on yout treatment. You’ve probably said it before, so forgive me if you have. I can remember UNimportant things and the IMpo’s fly off somewhere else! I’m sooo glad you didn’t have to have chemo, but not glad to hear you had such a s**t time of it with infection. Yes, your cup TRUELY runneth over. Incidentaly, have you had this new lumpish thing looked at yet?? or any appmnt to??

I don’t know if you’re working Alison?? - if not, you might find it helpful/beneficial to look into more threads on the Forum, if you haven’t already. There’s plenty more of us out there who would benefit from YOU’RE support, as well as you them. Have a browse on the main page and look into such as “Going Through Treatment” or “Recently Diagnosed”.

So did you complete all your rads, despite that nasty infection??

 

Where abouts are you in the country??

Much love and Thanks

Dellydoodaah xxx 

Umph - myDear AJT , I dont have either kids or grandkids to consider. Wish I did. Ok, your BC nurse “rushed off”. Surely you have CONTACT NO’s for them?? So phone them  Simples xxx