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Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Nikki49
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi girls, hope you don't mind me interfering, I finished fec-t Christmas Eve last year.
When on T I kept my fingernails painted with a solid colour my onc explained that the theory is that T reacts with ultraviolet light in the nail bed, so I took it one step further and never left the house without gloves on during daylight hours, even if just popping to the dustbin I put gloves on - yes my nails got a bit tender/felt a bit bruised and discoloured but I didn't loose them. I didn't paint my toe nails but always wore socks or slippers etc & again didn't loose any. Maybe it was luck/coincidence but it worked for me.
With regards to the aches & pains, I really suffered with the first T, I felt like I'd been in a car crash for about 4 days - I did think I wouldn't be able to do another one. I complained bitterly to my onc, trying to score better painkillers for the next one but he prescribed the 'steroid tail' which was 9 extra stereoids that you take in decreasing daily amounts - I could of kissed him it was a miracle cure. So the last 2 T were relatively easy, I carried on as usual the only se I suffered from was the horrible mouth.
Definitely recommend you ask your onc about the steroid tail if you've suffered from awful bone ache.
Good luck x
Karen2609
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi hbunny

I'm on day 6 and my thumbnails have suddenly become very sensitive. I have been wearing black nail polish and gloves to do washing up but looks like this may be in vain. I had thought that the loss of nails happened further down the road, possibly even after chemo finishes but not so sure now.

Still wide awake despite no aches or pains but have just seen news so am going to stop feeling sorry for myself. What has this world come to ?

Karen
hbunny
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi lovely ladies, well its now day 9 and I think the taste is just beginning to resurface, I'm feeling more like me today and the bone pain has finally gone, however started to get sensitive/painful finger and toenails, hope that doesn't mean I'm going to loose any. Anyone any advice re the nail thing?

 

Anyway love and hugs to all suffering side effects. Hbunny xx

CathC
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Slyolddog, sorry to hear you're not feeling great. How are the aches and pains today?

 

hbunny, like you I can't wait to get back to swimming. That's got to be the main thing I miss.

 

How's the bone pain now?

 

Enjoy your look good feel better day on Tuesday.

 

Candyflossie - sorry to hear you're not feeling well either. Sounds like Tax is taking a lot out of you all.

 

Sending hugs that you start to feel better soon.

 

Wendy - great news that you're feeling so well. And your last chemo is on Wednesday! Whoo-hoo! Time really has flown by.

 

Hope everything goes well for your son's wedding tomorrow. So glad ot hear your mum is well enough to attend.

 

Have a great day.

 

Horseslave - Glad to hear you're feeling okay on the FEC. Keep drinking plenty, it really does seem to help.

 

Ruby, it's horrible when you can't sleep, but it sounds like you have the right attitude. 14 days to the end of your chemo - you lucky thing. lol

 

Keep up the good fight.

 

Karen - how's the mouth and taste today?

 

Glad you seem to be having only mininal SE's - long may that continue.

 

I'm enjoying a SE-free week, even went out last night to a quiz and managed to stay awake.

 

I'm eating a lot of rubbish, because I figure the doc will tell me I have to start a healthy diet when I see her on Tuesday. I intend to gorge on all my sweet treats this weekend. lol

 

I have my bloods on Monday morning, and, if all goes well, my 4th FEC on Tuesday.

 

Hope everyone is having a good weekend and enjoying the good weather.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

 

 

 

Karen2609
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Cath - hope you are enjoying your 'extra' weekend and that everything goes ok when you see your onc on Tuesday. My husband has a fatty liver but the only thing dr's say to him is to eat healthily. Daughters are very keen for me to get on and buy this treadmill so I'm going have to try and find energy to clear a space for it, like you I'm not after an all singing/dancing version as the hardest thing will be making sure I keep using it once the novelty has worn off!

Wendy - hope you are enjoying your weekend in Windermere, good news that you aren't suffering from SE's now. Great to hear you have your planning meeting for radiotherapy, you seem to be getting through this really quickly, although I'm jealous as still have another 2 chemo's to go it's lovely to see other ladies coming to the end. Will you need further treatment after radiotherapy?

Slyolddog - hope you are starting to feel a bit better after the Tax, and that you are able to eat a bit more. Have you managed to sleep any better? I don't know what I've come to that I'm obsessed by what I'm going to be able to eat all the time. Like you I've been more active in the couple of years pre diagnosis than ever before, getting a dog forced me to get out and about. I'm hoping that if I start off with longish walks in treadmill I will be able to build up to a jog and maybe even a run!! That may take a long time though I doubt I could even manage three minutes without becoming breathless.

Hbunny, hope you enjoy your LGFB session, I have mine booked for 22nd November and am really looking forward to it. I agree that the lack of taste on Tax is the pits and is not helping my mood. That post radiotherapy swim will be here before you know it, I used to enjoy swimming but will need to wait for reconstruction before I can do that again.

Flossie - hope you are feeling a bit better now. I too am suffering from constipation under Tax, the opposite from Fec. I don't know if we can take anything to ease this as it just adds to the general feeling of grottiness.

Wendylois - glad to hear you have been faring so well on treatment. Have a wonderful time at your son's wedding looks like you will have lovely weather for it. So pleased that your mum is on the mend and will be able to make the wedding too. Last treatment on Wednesday is the icing on the cake, another of our number finishing this part of the journey😀

Horseslave - glad to hear you are coping well with Fec. Well done for keeping up with your art work sounds like it's keeping you busy. Hope you enjoy the Royal Berks show this weekend.

Ruby - sounds like you are really suffering under Tax too, I know it's not much comfort but you only have one more to go. You will get through it and it will have done its job. Hopefully each day will be a bit better.

Well I'm day 6 of Tax and hating the way my mouth feels and lack of taste. The Difflam mouthwash is helping though but I'm very much missing my little treats, they used to really help me through my down days on Fec. Although it's great not having the nausea and fuzziness I had with Fec, at least the worst of SE's were finished within a couple of days. Needing to nap more during the day and although haven't got any real bone pain yet just have niggly aches.

Hope everyone has a good a weekend as they can, SE permitting

Hugs, karen





Horseslave
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Huge hugs to all on TAX, I do feel for you. Its horrid. I feel ok on FEC. Not great but nowhere as dire as that TAX stuff. Ah well, as long as its doing its job and kicking the bcs arse!
been doing loads of painting and drawing, strengthening my lymph removal arm. Got orders for commissions coming in! Keep me occupied.
Really looking forward to royal berks show, daughter has lots of her rare breed poultry entered. She has to wash and blow dry them on Thursday, they love it!
ruby44
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi Slydog

The chillow is definitely cool but I didn't like the hardness of it under my head. Even though it slides into your pillowcase, it feels so different I just couldn't get comfortable. However, as I said my husband has slept soundly with if for 5 nights now - shame I can't give him the hot flushes too!!! Xxx
Slyolddog
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi Ruby

Sorry to see you're suffering under tax. Today is day 9 for me and I too am suffering sleep wise. I'm knackered but can't get to sleep at night as my heart is racing and pounding in my ears. Some ladies have been taking clarityn, I don't know what benefit this brings, maybe someone can explain.

Last night I took a couple of Nytol before I went to bed and if certainly helped. Not sure if its a good thing to take though, I may call the hospital and ask.

The Tax pit is certainly a harder one to crawl out of than FEC. Never thought I'd hear myself say that. Finding things to eat/drink that don't taste disgusting is also a challenge. By now I would normally be feeling ok.

Can I just ask why you didn't get on with the chillow? I've often considered one but the reviews I've seen suggest its a little too big.

Time to drag myself upstairs and get dressed. I foolishly offered (pre tax) to put my cousin and her husband up for the night and then take them to Heathrow early tomorrow morning. Oh dear!

Hope you feel better soon.
ruby44
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hiya all

Looks like the docetaxel is hitting everyone hard! Me too, still, and I'm on day 8 of 3rd one with final one to go. Chest pain, sleeplessness, mouth soreness counteracted with constant painkillers, daytime naps and Difflam with salt water mouthwashes.

Oh my god this is hard at 3.31am when you're up wide awake when all you need is a good nights sleep!!!

Anyone else getting hot flushes all night too?? Might be because I'm on Herceptin too? I got a 'chillow' to help - I hated it but my husband love it. He's now sleeping even more soundly!!

My countdown to the end of chemo is 14 days (plus SE's). It just can't go fast enough😜

Well done to all you brave women. We will get through this and hopefully pop back to later threads to encourage the poor souls just starting their journey - think positive😘

I'm off to do another night-time Soduko!

Ruby xxxx
WP23
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi hbunny and Candyflossie

I have just finished 4 lots of TC chemo, it is quite tough but you will get through it I promise, some tips I used was to drink lots of fluids, brush teeth and use diflam mouthwash 4 x per day, I also sucked ice lollies while Tax was being infused and didn't suffer a sore mouth and taste changes weren't too bad. For constipation I used:- senokot x 2 from chemo day for a week, then 1 per day until no longer required. For heartburn/indigestion I took 1 x lanzaprazole every morning.
The bone pain is annoying and my legs refuse to go up hills and stairs without shouting about it and my onc says this can last for up to a year, but I think it is a small price to pay.
It will soon be over you can do it :):)

Hi Wendy, glad you have not suffered too much, don't be embarrassed about it, it is great to hear such positive news. So glad everything on track for the wedding and that your mum can go aswell. I hope you have a fantastic time :):)
Hi Horseslave - glad your SE's are not so bad on FEC, hope you have a brill time at royal berks next weekend.
Hi slyolddog - thanks, yes cant wait for Monday:) it is strange isn't it that whether we were fitness fanatics or not prior to BC the bugger still got us anyway - luck of the draw me thinks. a little exercise often is my aim. 🙂

Have a good weekend everyone xx

Wendy
Jackie09
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi candyflossie,

Sorry you are feeling so rubbish. I'm popping over from the April thread. I had my last tax on 31st July and have lived to tell the tale! Whilst on TAX I had gcsf injections - and those combined seemed to make me feel rubbish. Once they were finished I started to feel better. I also used hot water bottles and heat pads. What pain meds are you taking? As for the constipation - I got Movicol from the GP and took it the day of chemo until I got going again. You're doing better than me as I didn't manage work at all throughout chemo - so don't be too hard on yourself. Hope you're feeling better soon x x
Horseslave
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Hello Everyone!
Day two of FEC and happy to report no sickness yet just mild flu symptoms. Keep expecting the TAX SEs to emerge but no sign yet. Drinking as much as I can, I remember that advice.
Got weekend away at royal berks show next weekend, so hoping that I finally have an easier time with the chemo, with this one.
wendylois
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

I haven't been on here for quite a while as I've been so well on EC treatment, so I didn't want to appear to be gloating over you poor ones who've been suffering. My only problem (apart from losing my hair) has been watery and itchy eyes over the past couple of weeks, probably, as the nurse told me, she thought it was because I was starting to lose my lashes. Fortunately I've only lost some lower lashes in one outside corner. My son is getting married on Sunday, so I'm hoping that taking some one-a-day antihistamine pills might help, and waterproof eye makeup if I can stop them watering enough to get the makeup on! I've also had phlebitis in the vein used for the last chemo, so I don't know where they'll put the next one in, but I've only got one more chemo to go, next Wednesday. I then start radiotherapy in October, and will be completely finished by the 31st of October, only 7 months from finding my lump. Amazing!

 

Some of you might remember that my mother, aged 91, had a bad fall at the beginning of August and was in a poorly state in hospital. Fortunately she turned the corner over a week ago since they moved her to a cottage hospital for rehab and we've been given the OK to 'borrow' her from the hospital to take her to the wedding, with an overnight stay. My husband's cousin, a retired senior nurse/health visitor, volunteered to come with us to look after her - so kind.

 

Wishing you all a good week ahead with minimal side effects. Wendy

Candyflossie
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Hi Hbunny, Slyolddog and Karen,

 

Day 5 of tax has kept me home, not able to go to the office today. Sleepless night because of bone and joint pain, throat feels swelled up and can barely walk 😞 Not to mention constipation ouch ... 

I am hoping that this will improve over weekend, as I cannot bear the unwellness for too long.

 

I wish someone that has gone through tax would give me some hope Smiley Frustrated

 

Keep in touch, going to slump on the sofa for a bit 

 

Love,

 

Flossie

hbunny
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Hi everybody, Slydog spirit of an ox, more like ass of an ox!  Still suffering with the bone pain, but a little better today, day 8, however the taste thing is just damm tuck, think it helps to be at work as it stops me being a moody ox, and I can't say it's very strenuous sitting at a computer all day.  I've been a fitness bod for the last 28 years or so, certainly over done rather than under done, but that didn't do me any good either.  I've done less in the last few months than ever before, really looking forward to a post Christmas swim after radiotherapy is done.  I am feeling very similar to you on tax 1, really hoping it picks up for the next round, all the old injuries seem to have surfaced and keeping me awake, although did give in to claritin and paracetamol last night.  Only thing that taste right is ice lollies, will take them with me for the next cycle so fingers crossed that might help.

 

Cath, don't worry about fatty liver too much, it is something that can be reversed, but I suppose something you could do with some info on if it's affecting your treatment schedule.

 

Clare, congratulations on the first over the post, pleased for you but jealous too, I'll be coming up behind you next month.

 

Oh, just had the look good feel better afternoon confirmed for tues, so really looking forward to being pampered.

 

Love to all. Hbunny

Slyolddog
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Re: Anyone due to start their chemo July 2014

Morning ladies

 

It has been abit quiet on here for a few days. For myself I can say I've been laid low by Tax, not feeling sick which is great but having to give in and medicate for the odd pains, which either shoot in like a lightning strike or are more persistent. Yesterday my sciatica was reawakened which was uncomfortable to say the least, and last night I could neither get to sleep or stay asleep, for some reason my heart was racing. Anyway all calm now. While I don't feel tip top the main lingering issue is the fact that everything tastes awful, which means I have managed to drop a few pounds this week. I seem to be living on tinned fruit and cream crackers. Oh, and the odd cake! Someone has to keep Mr Kipling going.

 

Cath - I hope all will be well with your liver results. Personally I feel that the radiographer shouldn't have said anything to you, that just adds extra worry days to an already overloaded worry schedule. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

 

Wendy - glad to see you've had minimal SE's this time and your radiotherapy is at last on the horizon. Enjoy your week away next week, it sounds idyllic. Good weather will make it better but I'm sure the scenery and the rest will do you the world of good.

 

Claire - congratulations on finishing your chemo, it must feel amazing to have done that. I'm sure I'm going to cry when they take the final drip off me and its all done, even though there will be at least a week of side effects to follow. I hope yours aren't too troublesome.

 

hbunny - I can't believe you're back at work already, you must have the spirit of an ox. I'm beginning to worry that when I go back my brain will have gone to mush and I won't remember how to even write a basic letter. I'm sure I'll get back in the swing eventually. You're amazing though, I could not have worked this week, I could barely get off the sofa for a couple of days.

 

Karen - I bought my treadmill from Next, I think it cost me about £200. I wanted one which could be changed to an incline to give a bit of extra workout. I have no aerobic capacity whatsoever, I can only run for about 3 minutes before I can no longer breathe.  I keep meaning to improve this by just doing regular short runs but as yet I haven't. I have only been walking at about 4K an hour for 45 mins, nothing strenuous. Ironically I've done more exercise in the last 2 years than any other time in my life and yet still I got ill. Oh well, I think you're either gonna or you're not.

 

Berkshirelass - I can't advise on treatment before operations as mine was the other way round. I do have a friend who had treatment first for a 5cm tumour which was practically gone by the time she had her op.  With regard to the length of time you're suffering the side effects the only thing I can recommend is drink as much as you can. It really does make a difference as I think it helps to flush things out.

 

Anyway, off to hang the washing out now, make the most of the good weather. Hope everybody has a good weekend and gets to enjoy some sunshine.  Smiley Happy

CathC
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@WP23 wrote:

 

Morning July ladies

 

It was a very quiet day on the July thread yesterday, hope everyone was enjoying the good weather and not suffering with SE's !?

 

Cath - I hope your scan was ok hun and that the results will be positive and you can move on, thinking bout you with positivity and sending big gentle hugs.

 

Claire - hope everything was ok with your last chemo on Wednesday - fabulous, well done, it is going to be great seeing everyone crossing that finishing line, sending congratulatory hugs your way 🙂

 

I am on day 12 and have had very little SE's this time, i'm worried that it hasnt worked really!? maybe just paranoid 😞

I received my planning appointment for radiotherapy which is on Monday 22nd Sept, so that is good, moving on to the next part of the journey............ Going to have next week away with hubby, relaxing, going to Windermere so hope the gorgeous weather we are having continues.

 

Hope everyone is ok

 

Wendy xx



Darn it, once again I missed a post -sorry Wendy.

Great news on getting your radiotherapy app. Whoo-hoo! Another major step.

Enjoy your week at Windermere - you deserve it.

Hugs

Cath

CathC
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Morning ladies

 

Had my scan yesterday and while the radiographer couldn't say much, she did tell me I have a fatty liver and some cysts. I won't know much more until I see my onc on Tuesday.

 

Anyone have anything similar? And any ideas if I can do anything to un-fat my liver? (And please don't say give up chocolate and cream cakes. lol)

 

Hope everyone is SE-free this week. Good luck to anyone having treatment.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

 

WP23
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Morning July ladies

 

It was a very quiet day on the July thread yesterday, hope everyone was enjoying the good weather and not suffering with SE's !?

 

Cath - I hope your scan was ok hun and that the results will be positive and you can move on, thinking bout you with positivity and sending big gentle hugs.

 

Claire - hope everything was ok with your last chemo on Wednesday - fabulous, well done, it is going to be great seeing everyone crossing that finishing line, sending congratulatory hugs your way 🙂

 

I am on day 12 and have had very little SE's this time, i'm worried that it hasnt worked really!? maybe just paranoid 😞

I received my planning appointment for radiotherapy which is on Monday 22nd Sept, so that is good, moving on to the next part of the journey............ Going to have next week away with hubby, relaxing, going to Windermere so hope the gorgeous weather we are having continues.

 

Hope everyone is ok

 

Wendy xx

Sodastream
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Hi BerkshireLass. I'm popping in from May thread. I've had 4 FEC and 2 Doxetaxol so far. If you're suffering from sickness make sure you ask for Emend as this should help. I felt really sick on my 2 nd cycle but none with my 3rd after I took Emend. However I was sick on my 4th cycle but only on the evening of chemo. I see you're apprehensive about moving onto taxol, well the good news is I haven't had to take any sickness medication at all and have not even felt queasy. The side effects are different and some people tolerate them better than others. Unlike FEC the side effects of Tax didn't kick in until day 3 for me which gave me that first weekend to enjoy. If you do get bone pain make sure you take pain killers regularily and I took Clarityn as well. I've found my digestive system has stopped so having to take laxatives and indigestion meds plus not able to eat much so have been juicing to replace meals but the positive from this is I've lost a few of those lbs I put on with FEC. The worst side effect I've experienced is a low mood, feeling grumpy with a total loss of sense of humour. I have a gel manicure and still have perfect nails. The leaflets tell you all the side effects but don't expect to get them all unless you're really unlucky.
Just to reassure you I'm also having chemo before surgery followed by radiotherapy and have chatted to several ladies on this forum and at my hospital that are the same. Good luck with the rest of your chemo.
WP23
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Hi Cath

All the very best with your scan today, hope you have plans for a very naughty and sinful week :):):) onwards and upwards.

Sending lots of virtual hugs and sinfulness your way !!!! lol

Wendy x
CathC
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Karen, thanks for the good wishes re my ultrasound tomorrow. I probably won't get any results tomorrow. I'm guessing they'll go straight to the onc. Why tell the patient what's going on, it's only my body. Ghrrr. (Oops, I sound a tad testy there.Smiley Tongue)

 

I bought my treadmill a few weeks ago, motivated by the ladies on here. With my AS I can't do a lot of walking so it's the perfect solution. I can walk as often and as little as my body allows.

 

Most of the treadmills on line were very expensive and I didn't want to buy anything too dear in case I never used it. I actually bought mine on line from Argos - £150, which I though was a brilliant price. It isn't the most gadget intensive one on the market, but it suits all my needs.

 

hbuuny - do as many sinful things as I can think of? Hmmmm, I have quite a vivid imagination. lol

 

Looking back the time does seem to have flown, I guess it's hard to see when you think about how long is still ahead.

 

Did you leave work at 3pm? I honestly don't know where you get the energy. I have to have an afternoon nap most days now and I still walk about like a zombie.

 

As for bone pain...I'm so used to that with my AS that I don't think much of it. I take my strong painkillers as and when needed. A good hot bath also works wonders.

 

If you're finding the bone pain is lasting a long while for you maybe you should mention it to your doc and they can give you something stronger.

 

Hoping all the July ladies are doing well.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

hbunny
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Hi Cath, that's the spirit, the bugger wont beat any of us.  You enjoy your week and do as many sinful things you can think of.  Try not to get down about another delay in the long run its worth it and the last 2 months have flown past - or is that me getting older!

 

I'm feeling fine today, thanks for asking, back to work, although I think will make it a short day and leave at 3pm.  Still got indigestion and some bone pain, especially in head and jaw, but otherwise tickety-boo.  How long  has the pain lasted for you, any advice?

 

Love to all, I hope you are enjoying the sunshine.  Hbunny xx

Karen2609
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Hbunny - glad you got everything sorted out and at least you are not neutrapenic. Hopefully you will start to feel better from now on.

Cath - you certainly have the right attitude, good on you for making the most of an extra chemo free week. It is so easy to get down when faced with these setbacks but if you can put a positive spin on it, as you are doing I do think it makes you feel slightly better. I do hope your ultrasound goes ok tomorrow, will you get the results straight away?

All this talk of treadmills is motivating me, I've seen some reasonably priced ones on Amazon but just have to find space. All the current research does seem to point to keeping active helps in fight against recurrence and although I walk dog I'm not sure it's enough. I've never run before and have absolutely no cardio so wouldn't feel right pounding the streets so might be easier indoors.

Take care
Karen x
CathC
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Wendy, thanks for the hug, I needed it.

 

Slyolddog, 45 mins on the treadmill is great. So far I've only manged 20, but I'm trying to build that up. I agree with you, keeping moving is so important.

 

Karen, hope you're making the most of today and feeling well.

 

hbunny, glad to hear your raised temp wasn't neutrapenic. You did the right thing checking it out. How are you feeling today?

 

After an eveing of moping around I've decided to enjoy my chemo-free week. It's been a while since I haven't had some kind of SE. This week presents an opportunity to get out and about a bit more and I intend to take it.

 

Every cloud, as they say. lol

 

Hugs to all going through chemo this week. May all your SE's be miminal.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

hbunny
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Oh Cath how disappointing I'm so sorry just another hoop to have to jump through and more damm delays.

 

As for me I spent most of the time in bed to then find a temp of 37.5 so off to the hospital for bloods, lucky for me not neutrapenic, but looks like I have a slight infection, which explains the swollen glands and flu feelings.  So glad I checked it out and now back home not worrying.  

 

Hope tomorrow is a good day for everyone.  Take care bunny xx

hbunny
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Hi there Berkshirelass. So sorry you have suffered with fec treatment, side effects really are unique to everyone, but don't worry a lot of people who suffer with fec have an easier time than tax, for me I think it could be the other way round.

 

Anyway use us to offload and im sure there will be many of the lovely July ladies here who can advise on how to cope.

 

Good luck with your treatment and welcome to our select group.  Take care of you. Hbunny

Slyolddog
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Cath - so sorry your treatment didn't go ahead. I really hope the ultrasound goes well and you are back on track soon. Sending you big hugs.

Karen and Wendy - don't be impressed with my treadmill activity. I am just walking, not running! I just feel that any movement is better than none, just keeping the hips moving, that's all. I don't do the ice pops during treatment, just drink as much water as possible. So far I haven't suffered too badly with ulcers, just Lisa if taste. Today's tinned pears tasted good though. I too have bought and thrown away loads of fruit. Tinned is the way forward for now.

Looking forward to a hot bath shortly to ease the aches, they're in some unusual places!

Have a good evening all. I hope those of you who aren't sleeping get some proper rest.
Karen2609
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Hi Wendy

I made pineapple ice lollies to suck during my 3rd Fec but had to wait so long to be treated that despite being in a cool bag with lots of ice packs they all melted!! Probably should have sent my husband to buy some from shop this time but was freezing using cold cap and drinking lots of hot tea instead. Hope you are well x
Karen2609
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Oh Cath, so sorry your treatment didn't go ahead, must be so soul destroying. Wishing you all the luck in the world for your ultrasound, hope it all ok and you can get back on track next week. Sending much love x

Berkshirelass - welcome to the July thread, sorry can't help with chemo before surgery I had mastectomy first. I had my first Tax yesterday, like you I was sick on Fec despite taking Emend but have been fine so far, although it appears to be day 4-5 that SE's kick in. My onc said that 60% of ladies fare better on Fec and 40% on Tax, maybe you will be in the 40% as you had such a hard time with Fec. I can only echo Cath in that I'm not particularly active at the moment I try to get out with dog but not back to work or anything. We all have to cope with this in our own way and just listen to your body and do what is best for you.

Hbunny - sorry to hear you are having bad time on Tax, I'm feeling slightly anxious waiting for SE's to kick in. Hope you start to improve from here on in then just 2 more to get through.

Slyolddog - sorry to hear you too are suffering from Tax SE's, sounds like I need to make the most of tomorrow as may hit me after then. I'm going to go with the sleeping when I can, might as well make the most of it while not working and kids at school. From looking at other threads it seems like insomnia is quite a common SE of tamoxifen so looks like I might have to get used to it. Hope you start to feel better soon and are able to eat and drink properly again. Tinned peaches sound nice, I quite fancy them myself now as I'm not enjoying fresh fruit at the moment. I keep buying loads but throwing away as I can't face it. 45 minutes on the treadmill is amazing, well done you. I couldn't even do that before I had bc, but reading all the latest research I'm determined to get fitter and hope to start running when I've finished with the chemo.

Sounds like a lot of us are not having a great week at the moment but despite the delays, hurdles and awful SE's we are getting through and the finishing line is in sight!!

Onwards and upwards, ladies
Karen x
WP23
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Oh Cath that is really bad news for you, hope the ultrasound goes ok and you can move on next Tuesday. I bet you feel really low, I hope your liver isn't damaged and bloods just being "pesky" 😞
Sending you the biggest virtual hugs xx

Hi Berkshirelass - welcome to the July thread.
Sorry you are having a hard time through treatment, have you spoken to your medical team about it?? I think Emend is the top dog of anti sickness meds, have you tried it?
I had lumpectomy prior to chemo but im sure one of the ladies is having chemo first.
Good luck with the rest of your journey 🙂

Hi Slyolddog - I think walking for 45 on treadmill is a great achievement, well done you 🙂 hope your tax SE's are few, it is difficult with the taste buds to eat something and actually taste it!! did you try sucking icelollies while having the tax infusion? I did through all 4 tax treatments and didn't suffer too badly with taste and did not get any mouth ulcers.
We definitely can see light at the end of the tunnel now, I still cant believe its over and done 🙂

Happy days July ladies, all of us will make it, the end is in sight xx
CathC
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Welcome to the July thread Berkshirelass.

 

I'm not sure how active everyone is. I know I'm definitely not. Fatigue is a major problem and gets worse every day.

 

As for chemo before op...sorry, I had my lumpectomy first. Maybe one of the other ladies will jump in.

 

Ended up not getting chemo today. Once again my Liver function let me down. Have to go for an ultrasound  on Thursday to see if there's any damage to the liver.Smiley Sad

 

Back next Monday for bloods and Tuesday, hopefully, for chemo.

 

Sorry not to answer everyone individually, but hope you’re all enjoying the lovely weather at the moment.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

 

 

 

June_BCC
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Hello BerkshireLass

 

Welcome to the forums, I'm sure other users will be along to support you soon.

 

As well as the forums we also have a helpline where the staff can offer emotional support as well as practical information. The free phone number is 0808 800 6000 and the lines are open Monday to Friday 9.00 to 5.00 and Saturday 10.00 to 2.00.

 

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BerkshireLass
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Hello Ladies,  

 

I started chemo in July (FEC-T) and am currently on day 8 of 3rd FEC.  I've suffered badly and am still suffering with Nausea through 3/4 of each cycle which I find completely debilitating.  Was hoping that the Tax cycles might prove easier but reading on here it looks like things could get worse which is quite honestly frightening.

 

I'm impressed by how active everyone on here seems to be, as I really am managing to do much less.  What's the secret?!

 

Is anyone else on chemo before the op?  I've been told that my op won't be until after Christmas (last tax beginning of November) and then will be radio therapy?

Slyolddog
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Afternoon ladies

 

Lovely weather here in North Hampshire, shame under Tax I can't make more of it, just sitting here looking out at the sunshine. Smiley Sad

 

Hbunny - I think I'm suffering similar effects to the Tax as you. Days 1-3 were good, no sickness and feeling pretty good. Yesterday the aches and pains started, wasn't sure whether or not to take painkillers as I thought I'd see how bad it got. Took some this morning and feeling ok pain wise but very tired and 'can't be bothered'. The taste in my mouth is not as bad as on FEC yet weirdly things taste worse, how does that happen?? Mainly though things are better. Walked on my treadmill for 45 minutes yesterday just to keep things moving, would be better for me to walk in the fresh air but there's no sofa for me to flop on outside should I get too tired! I hope you're side effects clear soon. Will you be working through Tax like you did with FEC?

 

Karen - I was like you, feeling generally quite good but convinced I was in a fools paradise, which turned out to be the case. I'm not a great one for taking tablets so will try and manage the pain, medicating when it becomes necessary. Hopefully you won't get hit too badly. Like you I always slept off my FEC, which I'm not doing with Tax yet, although I am still tired. I still favour sleeping off the side effects though. And having your next one put back even a day is a bummer, those dates are what we're hanging on to!

 

Wendy - sorry to hear you don't yet have a date for your radio. I will be returning to work through radiotherapy otherwise I'll be on half pay. Like you I will be phased back in anyway to will hope to work around either early/late radio appointments. I think most of us set dates for ourselves once we have an idea of the timetable, with Christmas being the deadline for some sort of normality. I'm due to see my Onc before my next Tax and will raise the matter or radio with her, I would like some idea of when it will start. 

 

Cath - hope all goes well with your FEC today and you have minimal SE's. Two thirds done now!

 

Horseslave - hope all goes well with your FEC, it will be interesting to hear which treatment you're better on. I'm certainly feeling extremely tired, no doubt this will worsen as we crawl towards the finish line.  After your comment about losing a tooth you've made me paranoid about losing teeth! Hair is one thing but the teeth don't grow back. While I don't have teeth like Tom Cruise they are all mine and I want to keep them.

 

JuSt - I think getting a PICC line in would scare most of us! No need to 'man up', we know what you're feeling, all these different things are sent to scare us but somehow we just get on with them because we don't have a choice. That's the bottom line. We are all just getting on with what we have to do and coping as best we can and personally I think we're doing a sterling job. Well done us! Woman LOL

 

Flossie - glad you enjoyed your week away. I keep trying to convince hubby to go away for a week somewhere by the sea but he keeps looking abroad. Like I want to travel somewhere hot with no hair and no energy!! Just need some rest, hearty food, open fires and plenty of ozone for a bit of a lift. Might just book somewhere and let him know after!

 

Time for lunch but don't have much appetite. Ate a whole tin of sliced peaches for lunch yesterday, at least it enabled me to get some fluids in, as water and stuff tastes awful. May do the same today, or go for pears instead. Big decisions to be made!

 

I hope everyone continues to enjoy the current run of good weather and minimal side effects from whatever treatment they're having. Try and stay positive, we can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and it's not a train coming towards us!! XX

 

 

hbunny
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Morning to all the July ladies, beautiful day in Shropshire as well.  I'm now on day 5 of first tax and am starting to realise I didn't appreciate what those starting on tax coped with. Fec was so much easier for me, but I know we are all different.  Suffered with swollen glands from about two hours in and still painful, bone pain got progressively worse yesterday but eased today a bit. Constipation horrendous and headache, jaw and earache, not to mention the lack of taste and sleep.  I think the worst days for fec hit me day 2-3 and with tax it seems to be 4-5, but its good to be able to have something to predict for the next and the finish line is in sight.

 

Hope everyone has a good day in the sun with few side effect. Love to all, hang in there bunny xx

Karen2609
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Morning Ladies, a lovely one here in Essex too.

Wendy - sorry to hear about the delays to your radiotherapy it's so annoying when this type of thing happens and unfortunately appears to happen far too often. I have found through this whole process the admin side if things has been really badly handled, appointments not being made as promised, chasing up dates and delays to almost every procedure. We are going through enough stress without these added pressures. I do hope it gets sorted quickly for you and doesn't delay your return to work.

Flossie - wow you've certainly been busy recently. It's good that you are coping so well and able to retain some sort of normality . I had my first Tax yesterday too and am hoping to be finished treatment and back to work before Christmas. I didn't get any Emend yesterday which worried me a bit but I was fine with just the prochlorperazine. I have been given 6 Filgrastim injections to start on day 5 instead of the 5 to start day 3 with Fec.

Cath - good luck with Fec 4 today, hope all goes well for you. It is a long day isn't it. My appointments have usually been 11.30 and until yesterday I've not left the hospital before 6.30 so was a lovely surprise when I was finished by 4 this time. Fingers crossed for minimal se's for you and that you have your tradition post chemo Chinese😄

Horseslave - enjoy your pottering around today I think the tiredness is cumulative but we are on the downward slope now. Good luck with your first Fec on Thursday I hope you get on better with it than the Tax.

Well day 2 of first Tax and at the moment I'm feeling surprising well. I haven't been sick at all and even managed to have some dinner when I got home. Usually I'm in bed within an hour if getting home from treatment but stayed up last night watching tv with my daughters then wanted to get through some more of my book so I ended up being last to bed. Usually have fuzzy head and can't read anything. Slept until 4.30 which is pretty good whilst on steroids and up at 6.30 feeling good. Am rather anxious however that I'm living in a fool's paradise at the moment and that when the SE' s do hit me they will hit hard! Think I'm just going to take each day as it comes, appreciate the good days but be ready for it all to change.

Hugs, Karen x
WP23
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Good morning Horseslave,

Yes it is a beautiful day here in Cumbria too 🙂
Brilliant news that you are over half way, you haven't had it easy with Tax, hope things improve for you with the Fec side of treatment.
I have had 4 x Tax and have grown increasingly exhausted with each one, I struggle with hills and stairs where I would have ran up them before!!:(
I mentioned this to my onc yesterday and she said it is a side effect of docetaxel and will improve, although this can take some time 😞 just got to go with the flow and do as much as we can i'm afraid. Will you go back to work on phased return? thank goodness I have that option, i'm only going back 2 x 1/2 days to start.

Enjoy your pottering 🙂 x
Horseslave
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Heartening to read through all your posts and to see how well you are all doing. Sorry to hear about delays in treatment, not easy, especially when planning to go back to work. I am hoping to go back after Christmas.
I have chemo round 4 this thursday. That will take me to over half way. FEC this time.
Beautiful day out there. Hope to go for a potter. Is anyone else experiencing extreme exhaustion? I get tired so easily!
CathC
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Karen, good to hear you're feeling fine after your first Tax, but bummer on your next session being put back a day.

 

Totally with you re being miffed. Even a day's delay can feel like too much when you just want to get this whole thing over and done with.

 

Wendy, good news on your bloods, but how disappointing about your radiotherapy appointment. The last thing you want to be at the moment is to feel anxious. I just wish the docs realised how important it is for us to have a firm next step. All this waiting about doesn't help at all.

 

Here's hoping the Primrose oil helps with the hot flushes. I know how awful they can be. I went through early menopause when I was 40 and the hot flushes were the worst! But like all things, they do pass.

 

Great to see you back, Candyflossie, and so glad your 1st Tax went well.

 

Here's hoping the SE's stay minimal.

 

Day 1 of what, hopefully, will be my 4th chemo. (I’m having 6 FEC) My appointment is for 10.30, but I probably won't get home until 5/6pm so a long day ahead.

 

Good luck to anyone having treatment this week, and hugs to all the ladies suffering the dreaded SE's.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

 

Candyflossie
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Good morning everyone,

 

Feels like I've been away for so long. I had a week holiday in  Wales for my friend's wedding and that was the first week of my 3rd and last FEC (w/c18th AuG). I had a good time and good weather and relaxed as much as I could with hubby and teens.

Then back to work, 2mad couple of weeks with some of my staff on hols themselves and had to be on fully involved. Luckily I felt quite well and normal.

 

Finally had my first tax yesterday and feeling quite well surprisingly, not much nausea either and manage to get about 6hours sleep on and off. Very alert this morning, thanks to steroids I guess...

 

 

CathC hope your tax goes well today and looking forward to minimal SE with this cycle Smiley Happy

 

They gave me only 4 Filgrastin injections to take, anyone had the same?

 

Also some different antisickness tablets cyclizine, which don;t have to be taken around meals, but as soon as you feel nauseous. I only had one yesterday apart from the Emend and Ondansetron and they seemed to have kept sicky feeling at bay.

 

From talking to the oncologist yesterday, it sounds like all being well, the whole thing and radiotherapy should be finished by mid December, so I guess Xmas celebration will have an added meaning into many of our lives.

 

take care July ladies and hope to see everyone doing well this week,

 

Love,

Flossie xxx

 

 

WP23
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Hi ladies

Cath - so glad your bloods went ok, fingers crossed they will be good to go today. It is great when you can go out with family and friends are do normal things isn't it, normality is what we are all wanting and needing 🙂

Karen - first Tax done, fab, it is really annoying when things don't go to plan isn't it, I don't think they understand the importance of keeping up the routine for us as we have the dates stuck in our mind, especially the important date of last chemo!! lets hope you have no more delays after this one 🙂

Oncologist appointment yesterday was a mixed bag really, bloods all good and onc happy that chemo done but no radiotherapy planning appointment as promised, my file is sitting on the senior oncologists desk again waiting to be signed off chemo and onto radio!!!!!! the last time my file was on his desk it was there for far too long and I had to wait 10 weeks from surgery to start chemo. This has made me very anxious and I made it clear that I cant cope with any delays as I am already committed to going back to work, we will see what happens in the next week.

I also asked if there was any supplements I could take to help with hot flushes and was recommended evening primrose oil with vitamin e tablets, so I have bought some to try. She did say not to take Echinacea though as this can (in large doses) interfere with chemo!! I have been drinking Echinacea and raspberry tea during chemo 4:( but she said unless I had drank gallons of it I would be ok. Just one more thing to worry about, I wish there was a list somewhere of do's and dont's during chemo.

Hope everyone is doing ok, and sleeping better than me tonight/today!! lol

Wendy x
Karen2609
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Cath - glad your bloods were ok today. Lunch with the family sounds good way to spend day before chemo, so nice to be able to do normal things. Hope all goes well for you tomorrow and that you have minimal SE's x

Wendy - thanks for the tips re Difflam, I dropped a few hints and have come home with Difflam and Oraldene so hopefully that will help. Luckily we have laminate floors so I got the nail polish off that easily but unfortunately not my favourite (most comfy) jeans 😞 x

JuSt - glad to hear you are starting to feel a bit better, does seem to take longer to recover as we go through. Hopefully you will soon be back to normal and be able to enjoy the next couple of weeks before next session. The finishing line is definitely in sight now x

Well first Tax done and so far I'm feeling much better than normal after chemo. I'm usually in bed by now and unable to face food. Going to try a bit of toast in a minute and hopefully manage to avoid being sick tonight.

Re the antibiotics, mine is different to everyone else. I wasn't given any, when I queried this was told they are just given if you need them - and I only have 6 days of injections not 7!

Bad news is that my next session has been put back a day until 30/9 as they can't fit me in. I know I'm overreacting but do feel really miffed by this as it's the second time my date has been put back and I just want to get it over with. Oh well could be worse, I've got off pretty lightly with chemo so far just have to wait and see how I cope with Tax.

Hope everyone who has had treatment recently is feeling ok and not suffering too much from SE's and sending lots of love to those due to have treatment this week, Cath and Clare ( not sure if anyone else?)

Karen x
CathC
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Hi, Wendy and JuSt

 

Bloods went fine this morning after a shaky start. Keeping my fingers crossed they're good enough for chemo to go ahead tomorrow.

 

Also had a lovely lunch with my son and his girlfriend - hubby came too - it was all so normal and a lot of fun. Good to take my mind off tomorrow

 

Good luck with your onc appointment tomorrow, Wendy.

 

And mega good luck to Claire for her last session. Whoo-hoo!

 

JuSt, glad to hear you're starting to feel better.

 

It's strange you haven't heard about your PIC line, as for manning up... I don't think anyone goes out of their way to ask for things they know may be painful. (Unless, of course, you’re a masochist. Lol)

 

You should phone about it, though. No sense having another thing to worry about.

 

Glad the ice lollies worked. I love Tesco's own plain fruit flavoured ones. I think they're 60/70p for 8.

 

 

Hugs to all.

 

Cath

 

 

 

JuSt
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Hi all!  Day 8 and i definitely feel more human again today - still only getting about 3 hours kip a night but overall I seem to have more energy and less pain etc today - hope to stay back in the land of the living for a while now 🙂  Just need to chase up the hospital as they should've contacted me about getting a PICC line in and haven't done yet - I keep putting it off as I'm not looking forward to it but then worrying when I think of not getting it done!!  Aren't I supposed to have 'manned up' to these things by now? 

 

WP23 - great news on seeing your onc for date for rads - it'll be great to get another chunk of treatment ticked off the list! x

 

CathC- thanks for the reminder about ice lollies - I've read several posts about them but just plain forgot! Derr! Blame chemo brain.  Anyhow, tried a couple yesterday and they really eased the yukky mouth whilst getting some fluids in so thanks again.  Good luck for your bloods and treatment this week - hope the SE's are minimal x

 

Karen2609 - great to hear about your mother-in-law staying clear, even without the chemo.  Positive stories really help don't they?  Good luck with your tax and hope you also have minimal SE's. x

 

All the best to everyone else - hope you are enjoying little/no SE's and a little bit of September sunshine,

 

JuSt

x

WP23
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I ladies

Karen - hope all goes well for you today, afternoon at a donkey derby sounds fun 🙂 poor hubby, poor jeans!!!! Great news re your mother in law, it gives us some more positivity when we hear such a lot of ladies are clear years and years after bc 🙂

CathC - wishing you loads of luck with your bloods this morning. Have a great lunch with your son and his girlfriend, enjoy some good food. Hope all goes well for chemo tomorrow and you have minimal se's x

To all our July ladies, have a good week wherever you are in chemo cycle, especially Claire (sugar) final one this week whooooooooo, fabulous :):):) xx

Wendy x
CathC
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Karen, good luck for your chemo today. Hope the bloods are okay and your session goes ahead as planned.

 

I'm off for my bloods this morning, so drinking plenty of fluids hoping the blood will flow easier this time.

 

Later, I'm meeting up with my son and his girlfriend for lunch. I plan to enjoy food as much as possible today before chemo starts again tomorrow.

 

Hope all the July ladies are keeping well.

 

Good luck to all having treatment this week and hugs to anyone suffering the dreaded SE's.

 

hbunny - hope you had a great birthday.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

 

Karen2609
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Hi Wendy

Thanks for the advice about getting Difflam on prescription I will ask tomorrow. It will be great if you do start radiotherapy w/b 29 sept, I can't remember how many weeks you have to have but should be finished late Oct/early Nov?

It's very true what you say about how many of us appear to be in our 40's. I've read loads about how most women diagnosed with bc are over 50 but most that I know of have been in their 40's. My mother in law was my age when she had bc which was also in her lymph nodes, she didn't have chemo but is still clear of it now 22 years later.

Cath - hope you are continuing to enjoy your day. Think I overdid the enjoying junk food, feeling stuffed at the moment!! If I don't get to post tomorrow hope your bloods ok and Fec goes ok on Tuesday.

Had a lovely afternoon at the Donkey Derby today, came home and painted my nails black in preparation for Tax but unfortunately being clumsy as I am I dropped the brush on the floor and my jeans. Hubby not impressed

Take care everyone
Karen x
CathC
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Hi JuSt

 

Sorry to hear you''re still feel lousy, here's hoping the SE's ease soon.

 

I know how hard it is to get fluids into you when everything tastes off. I've found the colder I can make a drink the better, especially water. Also try some small ice lollies they will help with your fluid intake.

 

Ruby, hope you avoid the dreaded SE's this cycle, although I think at this stage we can almost say to the day what SE's are going to hit, and when.

 

You mentioned Difflam being expensive, can't you get it on prescription?

 

ETA: I see Wendy has mentioned it can be got on prescription.

 

How may TAX do you have left? Will they persevere with the cannula, do you think, or will they put a port in?

 

Stay well.

 

hbunny, here's hoping you have a good night's sleep tonight.

 

And Happy Birthday for today. Whoo-hoo! 47 - you're a year younger than me. I hope you have a fantastic day, whatever you do.

 

Karen, the fatigue can be horrible when it hits. Listen to your body and sleep when you can - if that's during the day then so be it. Our internal clocks get messed up.

 

I did have a lovely day shopping, thanks for asking,  and my lunch at the local seafood restaurant was yummy.

 

We all seem to be focusing on junk food and eating what we want. Guess it's the only bit of control we have over our lives at the moment.

 

Day 20 of 3rd Chemo and feeling good, almost like my old self. My brain is fog-free for the moment. I guess that will all change again in a few days.

 

Hope the sun is shining for everyone today and that all SE’s are minimal.

 

Hugs

 

Cath

 

 

 

JuSt
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Hbunny - wishing you a lovely birthday today. Hopefully the sun is shining and you'll get spoilt rotten!! All the best,
JuSt
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