Counting down to chemo 12 on Friday last Paclitaxel ( three cycles over 9 weeks and three FEC )
I am done .. fatigue is now off the scale aching joints etc it is inevitable after 4 months I guess but has only hit home last couple of weeks should count myself lucky but look wrecked 😩
Thankyou Bramley & Lizandsarah for your replies, support & encouragement. I know we’re all in this together, but sometimes it’s nice to know people who understand what you’re going through, are also there to support you.
Bramley- yes I’ll be having Radiotherapy but I still worry about anything that passed through my lymph’s, as they were found to have C too. I’ll just have to keep telling myself that everything will be ok. Regarding the letters, I also get a copy of every letter that my Oncologist sends out, whether that be to my own GP or to the Cardiologist. I don’t get them from the Cardiologist but I did recently, as I asked for a copy. You could ask your GP for a copy of all the letters that your Oncologist sends them. Depends how much information you want...I want to know everything. I have a sister in Canada, who is a nurse n wants all the details, so I copy them to her x
Kelly - how frustrating for you with another delay to your chemo . We all know that having chemo carries a certain amount of risk and side effects but just hope and pray that the benefits outweigh any long term risk. Fortunately the NHS is very thorough and will do everything possible to protect and care for us on this journey. I sincerely hope they get to the bottom of the issues with your heart and can get you back on track with your chemo. But if the risk of more chemo on your heart outweighs the benefits then you have to trust the advice of your medical team. It sounds like you have a really good Oncologist which must be reassuring. I assume you will have radiotherapy after chemo? I think we all worry about cancer cell stragglers but as I understand it, the radiotherapy is specificaly to kill off any remaining cancer cells that have somehow managed to survive surgery and chemo. Lovely photo by the way of you and your supporters on your 10 mile Wirral coastal walk. Well done on raising £500 for your local Maggies, an amazing charity that helps so many. Hope the MRI scan on your heart brings some reassuring news. xxx
Liz - hope your oncology appointment went well today before your next chemo on Friday? Is number 6 the final chemo for you? Was just wondering about your oncology appointment outcome letters? Do you get a letter after each appointment with your Oncologist and Breast centre? The only letters I've ever received are appointment letters. I've never had a letter after any appointment, not even at initial diagnosis. I guess each NHS trust may do it slightly differently? I've taken my husband along to the 2 appointments with my Consultant (also my surgeon) and he has taken some notes for me.
Debi - hope you are doing ok.
Phet - hope the ultrasound was ok and put your mind at rest?
I'm doing well apart from one of my finger nails literally falling off last night with no warning! I thought I was going to faint as I was worried there would be nothing underneath it. Fortunately there was half a nail underneath it so at least something to protect the nail bed. I've notice my thumb nail is also now loose and another couple of finger nails so I fear the same thing will happen in the next few days. I've repainted with nail varnish in the hope of them hanging on for a few more days to give the nail underneath a bit more time to grow. When they said Docetaxel may affect your hands and feet, they weren't kidding! Oh well the new nail underneath looks remarkably healthy all things considered
Love to you all xxx
You must be feeling very disheartened after the heart results.
I'm originally from the North West and know Clatterbridge is an excellent centre, so they will give you the best care they can. I considered getting my treatment transferred there for radiotherapy so I could stay with my parents, but it was too disruptive for my family.
My friend has also had her breast cancer care there and was very complimentary.
As a healthcare professional I know these decisions are hard to make, but they will want you to have the care that will give you the best outcome in the circumstances with quality of life.
We all worry about stragglers lurking in our bodies no matter what treatment we have had, so you are not alone.
Well done on the wirral walk, my sister is doing the Shine Walk next month in Liverpool for Cancer research, I'm hoping to be there to see her off and get back
This is me a couple of weeks ago. I took part in the Wirral coastal walk, completing 10 miles and raised just over £500 for Clatterbridge Maggies centre. Supporting me was my son, sister, niece and 2 friends 😊
Im not bad thanks. I saw my Oncologist yesterday and yet again, chemo is not to go ahead this week. I’ve not had chemo since May and only had 3 sessions. Luckily I’ve already had a mastectomy and lymph nodes removed, but I’m still anxious about little stragglers travelling around my body.
I previously mentioned that the chemo has weakened my heart (ejection fraction from 55 to 42), but my recent heart CT shows I have a blocked artery. Im now awaiting an mri.
Oncologist told me that due to heart probs, I may not be able to have more chemo n he’s also got to rethink my hormone treatment.
Why does everything have to be so complicated.
He is a top Oncologist though, so I know he’s doing his best for me and will come up with the best treatment plan.
Does anyone know of anyone else who has this problem?
hope you and everyone else are doing well x
Well done with the race for life this weekend.
And I'm very jealous of Debi for getting to Southport, I haven't been home since treatment started and I miss the pier walks too.
Time to vent:
Been chasing my oncology appointment for this week before no 6 on Friday. Just been told they can speak to me by phone on Wednesday! And if they run late it will clash with my zolodex appointment!
I do find it easier face to face, and I've told them so. Also told them oncology is a shambles here as I've had nothing bu t problems since being referred. Other departments have been fine.
So it looks like it's time to go through the Pals department which I really wanted to avoid.
I also don't get copies of my oncology appointment outcome letters for around five weeks, breast centre ones take around three days to arrive!
If I have to have any new oncology treatment in the future I'll be asking for referral to another hospital as I certainly don't trust this one!
LynsH hope you are are having a wonderful time in the lakes, it must be nice to catch a break. I am hopefully having a trip to Southport next weekend, so i am going to have a walk on the long pier and get some much craved sea air.
Christine hopefully the golf and fresh air has made you feel a lot better. how many FEC sessions are you having?
Runningsue a great big well done to you and your team, you are an inspiration. I have 2 more Docetaxil, herceptin and pertuzumab to have then i will have surgery and then Radiotherapy, still a way to go but we are all getting there day by day.
Bramley I am on the same taste page as you, nothing seems quite right - i just fancy the food but then when i eat it it is nothing what my crave buds desired!!
Susanmanchester - hang on in there you are doing great, we are here to support you.
Kelly73 How are you doing?
Phet7178 Sorry to here that you had a trip to hospital - have they kept you in? I was having pain in my breast where my lump was after my 3rd EC, the BC nurse said that it could just be the tissue reacting and adjusting to any shrinkage, my consultant said that it was unlikely to be getting any bigger due to ongoing treatment and when i had my MRI scan he was right it had shrunk even more. Best of luck with the ultrasound tomorrow.
Pollensa, Lizandsarah, interestinetimes, Niknak5, Jencat and Louisefpage hope you are all doing ok and not having too many side effects, it would be lovely to hear from you.
Good night everyone, take care
Blimey the cricket was a bit tense! I have a husband and 3 sons who play and love cricket so no choice for me over the years but to watch cricket Amazing game of twists and turns but good to see England clinch to win the World Cup.
Phet - that is such a lovely photo of you having your last chemo and casually working in the process. Congratulations on completing your last chemo. Love your scarf, you look really chic and chilled Hope the infection in your bad boob sorts itself out and things return to normal. Will be good to have an ultrasound tomorrow to hopefully put your mind at rest. I've had lots of shooting pains in my tumour and under my armpit (one lymph node has tested positive) after each round of chemo but not swelling. I've just always hoped it's the drugs targeting the cancer cells and killing them. Hopefully your oncologist is right and it's your body responding to the dying cancer cells. Your surgery date of 6th August will soon be here. I feel the same as you, I can't wait to get my surgery (11 days and counting!) to get the cancer literally cut out of me but also really worry about the pathology results afterwards. I think it's only natural for us to feel that way. Afterall the first biopsy results we received at the start of this journey confirmed breast cancer. Now if only chemo could be guaranteed to kill off all cancer cells we would feel a little more reassured about the process.
Sue - just seen your photos of the 10k race for life Well done you, a fantastic achievement and you look so proud with your twins xx. Love the photo of the sign on your back. Such a lovely thing to do and we were all with you virtually. Just need to rest up a bit now and recover just in case those pesky side effects of Docetaxel raise their ugly heads.
Thanks for the tips post surgery, I've seen a few ladies commenting that a small cushion under the arm helps so will definitely get one of those and some extra dressings. When I asked my BC nurse about stiches, dressings etc, she advised that I would have internal desolvable stiches and a waterproof dressing on the top over the incisions (boob and underarm). The dressing should stay on for around 5-7 days and I could shower without needing to worry. After 5-7 days I could either remove the dressing myself or go to my GP practice for a nurse to remove. Does that sound the same type of thing that you had?
Christine - I'm sure you will do a big charity hike one day in the not too distant future when you are through treatment and out of the other side. Sorry to hear that you have been feeling the worst side effects on FEC. I completely sympathise with the nausea, such a horrible side effect The banana and peanut butter smoothies sound delicious and very nutritious
LynsH - good to hear you are doing well and enjoying a break in the Lake District. Such a beautiful area and the sun shining definitely helps! Enjoy the change of scenery.
The start of another week tomorrow and another step closer to the end of treatment for us all Keep posting with your progress. Stay strong ladies. xx
And this is the sign i wore on my back with all your names on as well as other ladies who i know are having treatment
This is me and my lovely children (twins!!) at the start of race for life today. I walked it all with my daughter Hannah and we ran through the finish line holding hands. My son matthew ran the 5k. I thoroughly enjoyed it and cant wait to get to the end of my treatment and start running again. It was such a fantastic atmosphere today, i had family and friends taking part with me but i had all you lovely ladies in my thoughts too. Ive had a lovely rest this afternoon and ive not been suffering too far with side effects of chemo number 5 but im going to take it easy for the next few days.
Take care ladies have a lovely evening
Hi all - long time I've not been here! I've been throwing myself into work a bit recently, which has been a good distraction from breast cancer, though I'm back into the side effects of the last Docetaxel now. I'm so happy to see everyone gradually coming to the end of the chemo - I can't believe what a long ride it has been (and continues to be).
Runningsue, you're an inspiration with the Race for Life! My mum ran into the racers in Oxford yesterday on her morning walk and was disappointed she hadn't realized it was on as she would have liked to have taken part. I have done essentially no exercise for at least 4 months, and with the Docetaxel joint aches and tiredness at the moment I can't imagine a time when I'll be able to again. But you have given me hope - I have surgery next and once I've recovered a bit from that I'll try to make a rehabilitation plan...
I had my 6th and last chemo on Tuesday - I've attached a picture here of me working in the chemo suite As I said to people at the time, when I first started having chemo I could barely stop shaking let alone concentrate on something like getting a bit of work done, so that's a sign of how far we've come.
Unfortunately the side effects have hit me a bit harder this time, and yesterday I had a trip to the hospital. After my breast softening considerably in the first two Docetaxel, and my lump seeming to shrink to about 1/5 the original size, on Friday I noticed my 'bad' breast was swollen and inflamed around the tumour site. I went in with a raised temperature yesterday, and they looked at my breast and thought it may be infected. So I'm on antibiotics now and hopefully will have an ultrasound tomorrow to investigate. It's all a pain (literally - it hurts!) because I was feeling so much better with the breast almost back to normal. I can't help but worry that it is not an infection and some kind of tumour activity as well. The oncologist in triage yesterday told me that that scenario couldn't be ruled out but he thought it was unlikely - he said cancer doesn't really work like that (let's hope!). If it's not an infection he thought it could be my breast having an inflammatory reaction to the 'tumour cell death' going on in there, which he said can irritate tissue etc. Not sure if anyone else experienced reactions around the tumour site on neoadjuvant chemo? Anyway, as usual it seems I can never have the expected response!
Other than that, I'm starting to get nervous about the mastectomy stage - my surgery is booked in for August 6. On the one hand, I can't wait for the cancer to be out. On the other, I'm nervous about surgery and recovery, and also about the pathology results after (I hate getting results). I think I'll be whipping out my headspace meditation app again and relying on that quite a lot...
Hope everyone is enjoying Sunday, and those of you going through side effects as well - solidarity! more soon xx
You are amazing! I couldn’t think of anything worse than running (I did a half marathon in 2013 and never ran again!) but to do it so soon after chemo is incredible. Good luck, I imagine it’s going to be an emotional run for you and the people supporting you. Let us know how you get on. I love hiking and trekking now so once this is all done I’m going to do a big charity hike somewhere. Two years ago I did a 50km trek in the Brecon Beacons so I feel like I need to up my game. I struggle to know who to raise money for too...breast cancer care, Macmillan, coppafeel, cancer research?
I had my first FEC on Wednesday and felt so unwell after. Instantly tired and constantly felt sick. Appetite Zero! All the foods that made me feel better on the previous 12 Chemo sessions are no longer working for me! Banana and peanut butter smoothies saved me the day after. Thankfully I’m slowly getting back to “normal” whatever that is anymore?! Going to try and play a bit of golf today to get some fresh air and take my mind of the side effects.
I hope everyone is able to enjoy their weekends
Sue, good luck for your race for life, you are actually amazing doing this so close to your previous chemo. I can’t even contemplate something like that just now and I’m a week post treatment. I’m in awe! Best of luck and congratulations on raising so much.
I hope everyone else else is resting up and enjoying some of the lovely weather. We are down in the Lake District on a wee holiday just now and it’s been fab so far. Long may it last. Certainly cheers me up seeing the sun.
Ill ask my daughter to show me how to upload the photos - she is much more technical than i am🤣🤣
Yes i had sentinel node biopsy at the same time as my lumpectomy. I was sore and tender for about 6 weeks in total. Make sure u get lots of rest - i used to endulge in a nice long hot bath. Just make sure u have lots of spare dressings to cover your wounds afterwards. I found ibuprofen helped to ease the soreness.
My sister bought me a lovely "recovery kit" which included a cushion - its smaller than an average sofa cushion. I used to put it under my armpit and it took the pressure of the biopsy scar rubbing against me.
When i had the docataxel on friday it took an hour and a half to be administered which was longer than last time - when i asked the nurse she said they liked to thin it out on the 5th dose. Side effects so far have been the usual nausea, mouth ulcers and hot sweats.
Well ladies im off to get ready for the Race for Life - wish me luck - ill be thinking of you all !!!
Sue - sorry to hear about your Mum. I bet you just couldn't believe it when you were also diagnosed but you were so right to get checked and they found yours early. Can I ask if you had a lumpectomy, node clearance, mastectomy? How was the surgery and the recovery afterwards? Any top tips? So glad you had your chemo 5 yesterday and are now back on track. Did you have a reduced dose this time after the side effects last time? I take my hat off to you for doing the 10k race for life tomorrow with your family and friends to support you. It doesn't matter if you run or walk, you are doing it the day after chemo! Amazing that you have raised £300 for a charity that will continue to support so many women who are sadly diagnosed with breast cancer. What a lovely thought to put all of our names on your back, thank you xxx As you say we are all in this together. Try to take somoe photos as I would love to see them. I'm assuming if you click on the photo icon when replying to these msg's that it must be fairly straightforward to add one?
Debi - sorry to hear that you have been in hospital with a temperature but thankfully no infection and you are safely back home. Hope you are past the worst of the side effects by now. You will get back to your running soon I'm sure xx
I'm doing fine and apart from taste. I am soooooo looking forward to enjoying the taste of food again, hopefully in the next couple of weeks. It's weird isn't it, I can't quite imagine how it will feel to go into a week 4 as I feel programmed on a 3 week chemo cycle now! We may all have chemo withdrawal symptoms after this lot, lol...
Hope everyone else doing ok? Let us know how it's going xxx
I had surgery in march so ill be starting radiotherapy in september. Where are u up to with your treatment?
I consider myself lucky that mine was found early because i took myself to get checked after my mum was diagnosed in january. Sadly it was too far advanced and she passed away 3 weeks later but if it wasnt for my mum being diagnosed i wouldnt have gone to get checked and i dread to think where i would be now.
Im resting as much as i can today to bank my energy for tomoro. Im entered into the 10k but im doubtful ill be able to run much of it however ive raised over £300 in sponsorship so there's no way im not taking part.
Sorry to hear u have been in hospital however glad there is no sign of infection. I hope u are still resting up and catching up on your sleep.
Take care ladies, speak soon
Runningsue42 glad you have got number 5 under your belt, only one left to go. Have you already had surgery? Will you be having Radiotherapy? Good to hear antibiotics are working and you feel up to doing the 'Race for Life'. What a lovely thought that you are putting all our names on your sign. I don't think i could do even a 5km just yet!
I haven't been on here for a while, i was in A&E on Monday evening with a suspected infection after temp. went to 38, luckily after all the tests, chest x-ray etc. i was fine and allowed to go home at 3 in the morning. I have been catching up on sleep- which as taken a while to be honest. Side effects this time have just been aching neck,head,hips and knees, along with feeling tired. I am not sure the tiredness is down to being bored though.
I hope everyone is having a good weekend and not having too many side effects.
Good afternoon ladies
Well im pleased to say my bloods were ok and i went ahead with chemo number 5 yesterday. Im glad i was only delayed by 3 days and not a week. The antibiotics have started to work on the insect bite (there has been no more green discharge). Billy Bob is also healing nicely 🤣🤣 Yesterday i watched 3 people ring the end of treatment bell and i know ill get to do this in 3 weeks time.
I know ill feel grotty tomoro once the side effects have started (already have hot sweats and mouth ulcers😢) but ive decided to still take part in the race for life. I have "Sue's Pink Army" of my children, family and friends taking part with me. I hope its ok with you all that ive decided to write the names of all the ladies on this forum on the sign that i wear on my back - "who are you running for" - we are all on this journey together and i want u all to know that you have all helped me along the way with advice whether ive been feeling low emotionally or about my PICC line clot or any of the side effects from EC or docataxel. If i could i would post a photo of the sign and of the race.
Take care ladies
Catching up on threads.
Susanmanchester - I know exactly how you feel worrying about seeing your surgeon again. I have such bad memories of seeing my consultant/surgeon at the point of diagnosis. However, the next time I saw her after chemo 5, to plan surgery was a much more positive appointment. I couldn't believe the difference and hopefully it will feel the same to you. Hold the faith.
Lynsh - hope you are past the worst after chemo 5 and you can get back to your running soon. I also had a prescription for Gelclear to help with the mouth after chemo 1 but haven't used it since. I didn't think it helped me at the time on FEC but the overwhelming nausea was the centre of my world for 9 weeks so not sure I would have even noticed! My taste buds are way worse on Docetaxel but definitely no nausea so I'll take it. I think I'll dig out the gel clear again and give it another go so thanks for suggesting it
RunningSue - really frustrating about your delay on chemo 5 As you say, better to be safe than sorry especially during chemo. I hope your blood tests are all good, you can have chemo tomorrow and be right back on track. It's good that they haven't automatically delayed you by a full week as I hear happens to quite a few ladies. I also hope you can get back to your running soon but if not just keep walking. It will make you feel so much better in yourself.
I'm feeling a bit better today in myself. Steroids must be starting to get out of system now I'm on day 8 post chemo 6. 2 weeks today and I will hopefully have my surgery (lumpectomy and sentinal node clearance), bloods being ok of course. I can't wait to get on with it now and get what ever is left cut out of me, it just can't come soon enough. My consultant (also surgeon) did warn that it is really common for a second surgery to be necessary if there are not clear margins around the tumour or a need to take out more lymph nodes. Obviously everything taken out is tested thoroughly in the lab afterwards to ensure clear margins and I will get my results 3 weeks later. Apparently the current statistic for repeat surgery is 1 in 4 women. Just putting it out there so we don't all worry ourselves sick if it should happen to any of us and thinking it's really unusual. I'm glad she told me as I can now prepare myself for that if necessary. I was talking to my breast cancer nurse and apparently the cancerous tissue does not look any different to healthy tissue during surgery but feels very different to the surgeon; I was really surprised to hear that. Obviously any guiding wires inserted on the day, MRI, ultrasounds, mammograms and other useful tools are availalbe to help the surgeon pinpoint and remove it all during the operation which is really reassuring.
Talking of surgery I went to M&S outlet yesterday and I saw a post surgery bra in my cup size but one size larger on the back. It was on the bargain rail for £5 (couldn't believe my luck!). If feels very soft and comfortable with wide straps and good support. Figure it's worth a try and the larger back size should give me a bit more room with any swelling. A friend of mine bought me 3 soft sleep bras when I was first diagnosed which I have also put aside for after surgery. She had bought for another friend who had breast cancer surgery and desribed them as the most comfortable bras ever. So now at least I feel prepared with 4 bras. I assume I'll be wearing them day and night for a couple of weeks until the scars heal.
Hope all is well with you all. Take care lovely ladies xx
thanks Bramley for kind thoughts ... have to see my surgeon before I start rads just a check-up nothing sinister but already getting anxious . Totally irrational .. just brings back bad memories I guess . Not sure can ever feel like I did but not being fearful would be a good start ! X
sorry ive been off radar. Just dealing with after effects of chemo 5 and kids being off school!! What a combination!! 😂
however feeling ok ish!! I’ve been using gelclair for my mouth which is helping massively with the sore mouth and also taste buds. If you can get hold of it from GP I would highly recommend. It’s a gel mouthwash but helps prevent that horrible coating we all seem to be getting. Don’t get me wrong, my taste isn’t perfect but definitely better than last time.
Sue, sorry I never replied to your previous post about running. I’m really missing it just now but have been a bit more accepting that I’ll need to just wait till I’m back on my feet properly before I think about it. Suspect I’ll be a couch to 5ker by time I get back out but worth it all the same. I just love it and it’s my wee escape. I’ll try and walk for the time being. Well done on you doing the race for life on Sunday, you’re amazing! Don’t even think I could consider that just now. Also hope the infection clears up soon and Billy Bob behaves himself!
I hope you’re all ok and getting through this week ok. Love to everyone who has a chemo this week. Hope it all goes smoothly. 💗
I was due to have my 5th chemo yesterday but unfortunately ive got an infected insect bite (not Billy Bob the blister - he's burst!!) So im now on antibiotics. I need to get my bloods checked again tomoro and im booked in for chemo on friday so fingers crossed i can go ahead then!! This is the first time ive had chemo delayed so im gutted but like the doctor said the infection needs to clear up as the antibiotics and chemo affect the white blood count in different ways and i could end up poorly and being admitted to hospital.
Im taking part in the race for life on sunday and ill probably feel grotty but ive got my children, family and friends taking part with me and im determined to do it even if i have to crawl!! Ive ran the race for life many times before and i signed up in january on the day my mum was diagnosed (she passed away 3 weeks later) and just before i was diagnosed and ive raised £300 so far.
Hope you lovely ladies are all keeping well
Our group has been a bit quiet for a couple of days so hope everyone is ok?
Susanmanchester - you are so nearly there with chemo You are right, we may feel and look rubbish but it will soon be over. Can you imagine how it will be to look and feel normal again!
Day 7 post chemo 6 and I've been feeling a bit sorry for myself this morning. Not sure why as I slept well and still got out on my usual run first thing. I find the couple of days after finishing steroids, emotionially exhausting and I overthink everything. I guess that's what they call a steroid crash? Not sure if anyone else experiences that effect each time?
Anyway I've sat around this morning, watching TV which definitely isn't me at all and I'm sure it's making me feel worse! Even had some pain in my legs and knee joints which I haven't really suffered with on Docetaxel. So just had lunch (taste buds are completely shot) and have decided to get myself off the sofa and out to the shops! I need to buy a couple of birthday presents and at least my mind and body will be active and I can chill a bit more this afternoon. Will need to make sure I avoid anyone with germs though!
Hope all those having chemo this week are doing ok and those experiencing pesky side effects are coping. xxx
I have chemo 11 on Friday then one more after that . I am desperate for it to be over but also scared ... have a three week break then radiotherapy . Have got away relatively lightly have even kept most of my hair thanks to cold cap but no lashes no eyebrows and tired tired tired after 3 FEC and 7 Paclitaxel . In short I look and feel rubbish and seems such a long time since life was normal . Good to know not alone though best to all x
I feel like we all need a virtual group hug to support each other in our group xx
I don't think anyone can understand the effect of the emotional side of a cancer diagnosis unless you have been actually diagnosed with cancer. The shock, denial, why me, what could I have done differently and then everything changing overnight in your life and feeling you have no control over anything. I only said to my Husband last night, I wish I didn't feel afraid all the time. I've felt afraid since I found the lump at the end of January and still feel afraid every day. It's just such a roller coaster journey. I've always been such a positive person so just trying to fuel some of that positive energy into getting through each day and taking control of anything I can. Sue - we could have done with a photo of Billy Bob to make us smile
This forum is great for supporting each other as only other people with breast cancer will understand. We can do this lovely ladies, each of us on our own journey, however long that takes us to move on with our lives. We need our normalities back and I don't think any of us will take anything for granted again. Sending lots of love and support to you all xxx
Sorry to hear u have all been quite emotional lately. Ive had days were ive sat and cried - the emotion of it all but also i feel so fat because of the weight ive put on with the steroids as im usually so active. Lynsh can i ask how u have coped with not being able to run? I usually run 3 or 4 times a week but just not had the energy. Running is a big part of my life for 10 years and ive missed it and i know ill get back to it once my treatment is over but sadly dont think ill be doing the half marathon im signed up for in september!! I did walk with my running club but ended up with a humongous blister as my trainers were tight from my feet swelling up on the steroids. I saw my oncologist on friday and she couldnt stop staring at my foot!! If i could post a photo on here i would to make u all laugh. I nicknamed it Billy Bob and he burst yesterday🤣🤣🤣.
I also found ive been emotional at the fact that tomoro is chemo number 5 and in 3 weeks ill have my 6th and final chemo. Its been the main focus for me for so many months and i think ill be sad to say goodbye to the girls on the chemo ward as i see them every week and chat to them when im getting my PICC line cleaned. I still have radiotherapy in september but ive had my surgery in march so im almost two thirds of the way into my treatment.
Ive really enjoyed chatting to all u lovely ladies on this forum and its been great that we've been able to help and support each other. I feel emotional that we are all coming to the end of our chemo journey.
Take care ladies, speak soon
I also had the same problem with needing Mirena taken out, but it was changed to copper coil straight away and its been absolutely fine.
I'm finding I'm getting more emotional now as the chemo goes on, but I don't know why!
I have days where I just sit and cry, and I've also found nothing stops it. I just hide at home in these days!
I've been lucky to be referred to a lovely psychologist whom I am seeing monthly, my breast care nurse put me in touch with her.
I think moods will be very up and down in the months and years to come and it's still just one day at a time for all of us.
Grateful for the support on the forum, I can be more open than with friends and family as they are all still struggling with the diagnosis as well.
I can also totally empathise with your emotional state. Everyone needs us to be the strong ones but sometimes it’s just nice to be able to rant and tell people you don’t want to hear their stories, good or bad. Everyone’s experiences can be so different of this. I had an outburst in the doctors surgery the other week. I had to get my mirena coil removed and had to go back to see consultant as nobody seemed to know what kind of contraceptive was safe for me! Turns out pretty much nothing other than copper coil or blooming comdoms!! 😂 But she started speaking to me about side effects of tamoxifen and recommending stuff for vaginal dryness (sorry if TMI!!🙈) as its going to put me in an induced state of menopause. I don’t know why but this just totally hit home that at 37 I’m going through a major life change and there’s absolutely nothing I can do about it. I had always wanted another baby too and I think the reality hit home that’s never going to be a possibility either as I’ll need to be on tamoxifen for at least 5 years.
I went from hardly shedding a tear since my diagnosis to being unable to stop blubbering. Thankfully the doctor was so lovely but she must have been a bit like, blooming heck love!!! 😂
i think my my point is, we will all have our breaking point. This is what we’re all here for. To get each other through. I am also stressing about putting on too much weight as literally nothing bloody well fits!! But I’m normally a runner so really missing this for both my mental and physical health. I know we will all get there in the end but it will take time. I feel reassured I’m not alone with you lovely ladies and we will get there eventually.
Big hugs for week ahead girls! 💞 xxx
So sorry to hear you are struggling emotionally, i think it is part and parcel of the treatments. I too have had the ups and downs sometimes just bursting into tears. I know what you mean about people always wanting to tell you about 'a friend of a friend', for some reason they must think you want dwell, when all you want to do is scream in their face to shut up. I have now put it down to the reason that they don't really know what to say.
It is natural to feel scared to start your treatment again, I was scared before the very first time i had chemo then again when i changed on to Docetaxel - is just fear of the unknown - but these forums help, they show that every thought, emotion, side effect is a normal reaction to what we are going through and we are here to help. Don't be alone on this journey, it sounds like you have a wonderful partner, and we are here too.
Hope you have better days ahead
I have tried to take a week off from this forum so only just catching up now. I’m so sorry to hear that a lot of you are struggling with your new chemo. But well done to those that have finished, it reminds me that there is an end! We don’t have a bell on our unit either but I’m not sure I’d ring it if there was. I’m still at the start of treatment and have a long way to go but I’m still going to celebrate the end of chemo next month with a glass of Nosecco (alcohol free prosecco!).
This week was the first week in 3months where I didn’t have Chemo. I went away with my partner and it was amazing to just get away. We went to Swanage in Dorset for a couple of days and it was so relaxing. He then stood by my side whilst I was bridesmaid to my friend this weekend.
As amazing as it was, I have really struggled emotionally. I have been so positive and held it together for him and my family but towards the end of this week I have started to crack. Such a mix of things. I was looking at photos of my this time last year and it’s got to me. I have realised how much weight I have put on and how different I look. I just don’t feel like me. All the bridesmaid photos keep coming through and I just keep crying. I think my boyfriend is struggling with the amount of reassurance I need right now.
To add to this I keep getting told stories about other people that had breast cancer and the last couple I have really struggled with. I don’t know why people insist on trying to relate to us by telling these stories of friends of friends that they know. I can’t help but ask how they are doing only to hear the worst. Has anyone else found this? I was having my make up done for the wedding and the makeup artist told me a story about her friend and I couldn’t tell her to stop because I was too polite. The rest of the day I felt tainted by this story and I didn’t offload to anyone because I didn’t want to ruin their day either.
I’m also so scared to start chemo again on Wednesday. You guys have reduced this fear by explaining that FEC hasn’t been all that bad but I’m nervous. I think having a week off has been good in so many ways but also has made me overthink.
Sorry to rant. I just keep crying and thought, who better to explain this to than the girls going through it with me! Sorry for the long message
Good morning everyone
Kelly my heart goes out to you and your brother, wishing you both the strength to get through this awful time. Just remember we are here for you whenever you need any support.
Bramley i think treatment 4 and 5 side effects were very similar, although i have been getting jaw pain in the night which i think is down to the Zarzio (white blood cell) injection. I am going to call the BC nurse and ask her today.
LynsH how many steroids do you take and for how long? I just take 16mg daily for three days, one day before chemo then the next two days. The family break sounds lovely, i think i would be sat in the hottub every evening. Hope you have a great time and lets hope its side effect free🍹
Wishing everyone a lovely day and hope the ladies that haven't posted in a while are ok.
Kelly, so sorry to hear about your brother. It’s not fair is it. Wishing you both a speedy recovery and back to full health very soon. Can’t imagine how difficult that is to deal with on top of your own diagnosis.
Bramley, you sound like you’re doing well on day 4! 22k steps! That’s amazing! I managed just over 11k today but I’m blooming exhausted now! It’s not even that warm here in Scotland so I’ve no excuse!! 😂
I’m on day 3 post treatment 5 for docetaxel. Not got too many side effects yet. I always get a funny voice for a couple days which is weird and I’ve got that again. Not sure if it’s fatigue or side effects of steroids. He’s reduced my steroids this time so I just have 2 to take tomorrow and im done.
Like you im starting to take my paracetamol tonight and pre-empting the joint pain. Try and get ahead of the game. We have a wee family break planned leaving on Friday to Lake District so I really want to feel ok for that. We’ve booked a lovely lodge with a hot tub so hoping that will help with the joint pain if it is bad! And perhaps a g&t whilst I’m doing so!!
I hope everyone else is doing ok. Sending lots of well wishes to you all and like Bramley says, we are nearly there. And we will be around to anyone else who has a few more sessions left to support them to the end of their journey too. It’s a team effort after all.
Sleep well girls. 💗
Hope everyone has managed to enjoy the weekend in this lovely weather.
Kelly - glad to hear that you can finally had your CT scan and hopefully this means you can crack on with your weekly chemo. It's better to be safe and it really doesn't matter that you will be a bit behind in our group, as long as we all get there in the end. It's a very individual journey and hopefully you will be back on the right track soon. So sorry to hear about your Brother. It truly is an awful disease that affects so many. I had no idea of the world of cancer or oncology before I was diagnosed. I find it terrifying that statistics predict that 1 in 2 people will develop cancer in their lifetime. How can that happen? Hopefully one day they will find a way to prevent it even happening through routine tests.
Debi - hope you have turned the corner on the side effects of chemo 5 (Docetaxel)? Did you find round 5 slightly easier than round 4 with side effects? You are getting ever closer to finishing chemo and August will soon be here.
I'm doing ok on day 4 post chemo 6. I know tomorrow will be the test on day 5 but so far I seem to be following the same pattern as post chemo 5. Bit of a sore throat, slimey tongue, taste buds going again and tingling in fingers. No joint aches, pains, flu type symptoms or issues with feet though. I'm still on the steroids (last one tomorrow) and have done 22k steps today. I feel fine but will relax and watch TV for the rest of the evening. Taking 2 x paracetemols just before bed at night (after temp check) which seems to help me get a good nights sleep in the first few days post chemo. Forgot to do my daily injection this morning so have done it around an hour ago which probably isn't ideal! I've cut my finger nails pretty short now and applied a dark pink nail varnish as I noticed they were looking very yellow with chemo rings around the top of the nail. I've also painted my toe nails in an even darker shade but they don't seem to be yellow or showing any signs of stress yet. I guess that may come in the next few weeks! This chemo just keeps on giving doesn't it!
Tomorrow is the start of another week. Good luck to those having chemo this week and hope everyone else is coping as best they can with the side effects. We are all one step closer to finishing this journey xx
Well I finally had my heart CT today, so fingers crossed, all will be ok, so I can crack on with my chemo.
I am miles behind you all now, with me having such a long break from it. I’ve had 3 sessions and will be going onto weekly Paclitaxel for up to 12 weeks! That’ll take me up to around October.
Im also unsure about ringing the bell, as I’ll still have 3 weeks of Radiotherapy to do afterwards....I’ll decide nearer the time, but will defo be relieved at the end of it all.
On top of this, I’m supporting my brother who has been diagnosed with lung cancer, he had his first chemo last week. Life can be so blummin cruel can’t it, but we are close and there for each other. We’ve already lost our Mum to lung cancer, so feel we’ve had our share of this awful disease.
Anyway, wishing you all well with your progress and it’s nice to know some are so close to the end of chemo 😊x
Congratulations Bramley no more chemo🎉. I still have 2 more to go as i was on 3 x EC then 4 x Docetaxol, Herceptin & Pertuzumab. My last chemo won't be until Aug 13th! but when it comes i will definitely be ringing the bell 🔔.
My side effects kicked in last night so i have been a bit worse for wear today. Hopefully they won't last long.
Sorry to hear some of you are having bad side effects too, just keep thinking of the good days to come. I keep a diary every cycle so i can look back and see how bad and how long they lasted last time, it sort of gets me through the not so good days.
Well i am taking myself off to bed early tonight, i will listen to my audible book and drift off.
Another sunny day and I'm being brave again and sitting out under the awning bald. Actually there may be something happening on the hair growth! I definitely have quie a few tiny hairs sprouting through and they are looking darker . I'm now on day 2 post chemo 6. Rome wasn't built in a day but I keep inspecting it every morning after washing/conditioning my scalp and there is definitely something happening. It's gonna be a long journey but it's a definite start!
I appreciate that ringing the bell after chemo is a very personal and individual decision and I think everyone should do whatever feels right for them. I was undecided for a long time but made my decision the night before to ring it to mark the end of the chemo phase of treatment, although I know there is still a long way to go.
Phet - glad you are feeling better in your 3rd week and have been keeping busy with your academics. It must make you feel normal again and back to your pre cancer diagnosis life for a few hours to be able to work. You are so close now to finishing chemo, just the last one next Tuesday and you can ring that bell loud and proud
Pollensa - sorry you are feeling so rubbish after your first round of Docetaxel. Hopefully Oncologist can help for next round.
LynsH - good luck for your 5th chemo tomorrow. Hope the side effects are less after this one, they were for me on round 5. And if they aren't, its another one checked off and getting ever closer to finishing chemo. Your kids will love to see you ring that bell
I'm doing well 2 days post chemo 6 but I know the pesky side effects may be just round the corner on day 4-5. I went to a circuits class at Maggies this morning, followed by yoga, reflexology at the hospital (so relaxing!) and then for my usual walk around my neighbourhood after lunch. I'm definitely tired going to bed, but feel better to keep moving and sleeping well even on the steroids
Stay positive everyone. We are getting there xxx
Hi all! Sorry I've been absent - I suffered the Docetaxel for the first ten days but then felt quite a bit better and well enough to do a bit of work (I'm an academic - a historian) so that's kept me distracted for the past few days.
Bramley - congratulations on finishing chemo! I also am having chemo first, and my last one is next Tuesday. I also feel unsure about ringing the bell due to it only being the end of one leg of treatment, but your experience convinces me that it will feel cathartic to mark the occasion in some way.
Lizandsarah - I am sorry you are suffering so much from the Docetaxel, that is very frustrating
LynS - I've found that taking an antihistamine (Loratidine) helps with the bone pains from filgrastim. I take it once a day, in the morning, throughout the cycle and I have not suffered the bone pain from the injections much at all
Hope everyone has an enjoyable day today, without many side effects!
I’ve got my 5th session tomorrow, will be relieved when this one is done. I really struggled last time with side effects.
I had heard do filgrastim also gives you sore joints. I saw oncologist yesterday and he recommended starting pain meds proactively rather than waiting for the psi to kick in so I’ll be starting my pain meds from Tuesday onwards to avoid that.
Hate the build up to chemo day. I get this horrible dread in my tummy. But on a positive note, after tomorrow I’ve got one more session and by god I’ll be ringing that bell!! And having a right good relieved cry into the bargain! The kids will be there so I think it’s important for them to be involved and marking the occasion. They’ve watched mummy be unwell for the duration of her chemo and hoping the only way is up now!! 💪🏻 We are all getting there and hopefully coming to the end of this tough time.
Hope you’re all feeling ok (as well as you can be this week)
Well, 2 weeks tomorrow since docataxel and I'm still feeling rubbish. No taste, no energy ,blurry eyes, all i want is to sleep all day!
I'm seeing oncologist next week and I will definitely be expecting some changes before next dose!
There's no bell ringing in my unit and, from a personal point of view, I dont see much to celebrate about finishing chemo. There's so much treatment still to endure. Maybe after being cancer free for 5 years thats when i would celebrate.
Thank you everyone for your lovely comments and support. I was far more emotional than I thought I would be finishing chemo but it's such a roller coaster journey for us all. I will be willing each and every one of you to finish chemo and will celebrate with you virtually xx
Liz - blimey the side effects of Docetaxel certainly present early for you don't they with your hands and feet already tingling. Yes keep trying to get hold of your Oncologist, it's important to discuss the ongoing side effects to see what can be done to help. Hope your iron levels start to rise. Drinking orange juice with iron rich foods (meat and fish, dark green veggies and eggs) is supposed to help the body absorb iron more efficiently. May be worth a go if you are not doing so already? Funny you should mention dexterity with your hands. I am so clumsy at the moment, I keep dropping things. I dropped a glass and a saucer last week and I keep catching my arms on the oven. I've got 5 burn marks on my inner arms and I keep having to tell people I'm not self harming, I'm just clumsy (side effect of chemo) and keep burning myself. Hope they believe me, lol... Anyway keep smiling xx
Sue - Good luck for Docetaxel next Tues. I can't believe you have been so unlucky to still be suffering with nausea on the change of drug. FEC is known to cause nausea but I was assured it wasn't common for Docetaxel and hoped you would finally be rid of the nausea after round 4 like I was. I feel like a completely different person without nausea. I'm having my surgery on Thursday 25th July. It's 3 weeks and 1 day after chemo 6 so pretty tight timeframe, bloods willing obviously. Having the blood test on the Monday before surgery on Thurs so hopefully all will be fine. All my other blood tests on the Monday before chemo on Weds have been good so just need to think positive this time round. Yes I'll be having 3 weeks of radiotherapy I think but not for 6-8 weeks after surgery as scars need to be fully healed first.
Interesting times - gosh I didn't realise that all Oncology units don't have a bell to ring. Like you say, you would like to think that everyone finishing that part of their treatment would want to celebrate somehow. Everyone in the 2 connecting rooms of chemo were clapping and smiling when I rang the bell today. I felt quite choked by their reaction but it was so lovely to see happy looking people celebrating with me. Good luck for round 5 chemo on Monday.
I'm wide awake tonight with the steriods and hence such a late post Must get some sleep now. Mammogram and ultrasound tomorrow to check on lump. Never had so many medical appoints in my life. 5th appoint this week tomorrow!
Night night xx
Missed your post about pain, the filgastim pain tends to occur more in flat bones, such as ribs, sternum, shoulder blades as well as hips. Sometimes it even feels sore to touch them. I experienced it on the FEC cycle where my blood counts were low. I had a look at the leaflet as well at the time from the box.
I found the Docetaxol tended to be in all the lower joints and muscles.
Hope this helps and you feel better now
Congratulations on finishing all your chemo, I hope your surgery goes well in a few weeks.
I had the reduced dose of Docetaxol last friday, and within12 hours the hands and feet tingling and burning started again! Making doing anything that needs dexterity difficult, even ironing, it's like my fingers don't belong to me anymore! My family just laugh at me, which is lovely and normal.
Much less pain this time fortunately, but only regained a small bit of taste for 48 hours, just fruity things like strawberries, all gone again now. Still tired, but it doesn't seem as overwhelming as last time so far, mind you it hit me more in the middle week last time so waiting and seeing.
Just waiting for an appointment to discuss with oncologist before next chemo appointment, just trying to chase as there is always an excuse of having a backlog! Will give them till Friday then will ring again.
Quite anaemic as well now, so having the breathlessness and lightheadedness to add in as well, they've threatened to transfuse me if it drops any lower. Could quite happily have steak if I could taste it, seems a waste at the moment!!!
Still I'm continuing to smile and have a giggle with my friends, so it's not all bad
Well done on your last chemo and for ringing the bell!! It seems such a long time since we all started chemo and we are all coming to our 5th or last chemo. I have chemo number 5 on tuesday. It will be my 2nd docataxel. Im still having nausea but ive had it for so long (since day 1 of chemo) that im used to it by now!! I cant wait to wake up one day and realise i havent been nauseous for a day or 2!! Im so pleased u decided to ring the bell. Ive seen people ring it when ive been on the chemo ward and i cried for them!! I know im going to be an emotional wreck when it comes to my turn!! Do u have a date yet for your surgery? Are u also having radiotherapy? I hope u dont suffer now with the side effects and u rest up for a few weeks.
Hope everyone else is ok and managing to sit out in the sun.
Huge congrats on finishing what will probably be the worst of all three treatments! They don't ring the bell in my unit. The nurse told me it's because some people are having palliative chemo and they don't want to upset them... Personally I think they would celebrate with anyone coming to the end of that particular journey.
NikNak - I have suffered nausea, heart burn and other digestive upsets with each round of FEC, not to mention sore mouth and throat. That's all I'm having so 4 doses down and due to have the 5th round on Monday. I am working but take the first week of each cycle off as I generally can't get off the sofa (or sometimes even out of bed!) Apart from this last round, I was back at work within a week. I get tired and some days are worse than others but hopefully you will find things improving now!
Good luck and talk to your BC nurse or oncologist.
Our monthly thread is pretty quiet so just hoping everyone is doing ok?
Debi - hope your 5th chemo went well yesterday and you are doing ok? I know any side effects are usually delayed by 4-5 days on Docetaxel.
Liz - hope you have turned a corner on your last dose of Docetaxel? When is your 5th dose or you may have already had it by now? Hope the reduced dose helps prevent or reduce some of the side effects too.
I had my final chemo (no 6) of Docetaxel this morning at 8am! Was glad of a first appointment as there were no delays - first time in 6 doses I've been asking for all my blood tests and chemo doses to be in my right arm (same side as breast tumour) as I haven't had surgery yet. Figure I need to use up the veins in case they have been damaged administering chemo as I won't have the option to use that arms for any blood tests post surgery. I wasn't sure if I wanted to ring the bell this morning as it's no way near the end of treatment for me. I started with chemo before I have surgery and radiotherapy so I'm now half way through. Last night I made the decision I would ring the bell. I'm so happy to finish chemo that I wanted to celebrate in some way. I also wanted to bring a smile to other chemo patients faces who may be just at the start of what feels a daunting journey. I rang it very loudly three times. Everyone smiled and clapped which was just so lovely. I thanked all the nurses and wished all the patients all the very best before walking very quickly out of Oncology without looking back and before the tears of relief started in the safety of my car.
I just need to be super careful now for next 3 weeks, keep active, hydrated and eat well so I can give myself the best possible chance for my bloods to bounce back and be well enough for surgery in 3 weeks time. My taste came back slightly in the 3rd week which was so nice. Really not looking forward to everything tasting of nothing again and horrible in next 2 weeks .
Stay strong ladies, I hope you will all be finished with chemo soon xxx
Hi NikNak - hope you will start to turn a corner on the FEC very soon. The worst of the side effects are usually in the first week so hopefully you are past the worst now. I was lucky and didn't suffer too badly with exhaustion/fatigue on FEC. I've kept pretty active throughout chemo which I think has definitely helped. If you can, try and get out for a short walk in the fresh air every day. Even on my worst days of chemo I found that I always felt much better after a walk in the fresh air. Sometimes I didn't think I couldn't face it but made the effort and I found it actually helped my energy levels. It's amazing how it just becomes part of your daily routine if you keep at it. Good luck xx