Were you on a different type of chemo before the taxol? How do find it in comparison? I've been told the SE are not as bad as on EC, but at least I get 3 weeks to recover after EC. We'll see...
Good luck with the taxol. I found the first one was the worst - nausea, headaches, joint pain, sore feet and the side effects lasted longer on the first. Now the first 2 days after the treatment are the worse, normally nausea, headaches, general dizziness and feeling chilled. I have problems with the soles of. my feet which ache and feel sore and the palms of my hands but no pins and needles in my toes. my oncologist suggested taking B6 50mg 3 times a day and that does help a bit. The other problem is joint and bone pain in my knees and legs, I have Napaxen for it but you need to take something like omeprazole as well to protect the stomach.
And nosebleeds which gives you a stuffy nose, need plenty of hankies, this started last week.
I find by day 3/4 I feel a bit better, I try to walk every day but really know if I over do it! However I meet up with friends and have been to exhibitions, shopping etc.
I think that everything is compressed so you feel bad then better and then you are into the next one, so it can be a whirlwind. The key is not to commit to too much each week, if I get to do one thing on 2-3 days each week then that is good, however some people sail through without an6 side effects.
I hope this helps and all the best
Hello everyone and welcome to the newbies.
Sunnybear, how are you finding the weekly taxol? I'm moving onto that after one last EC in 2 weeks time. I'm worried it'll be hard as it's every week.
Lots of hugs to everyone xx
My hair is also falling out, I have had 4 cycles of weekly Taxol and didn't get on with the cold cap, so I was expecting it but still distresing. What is surprising me is how much hair there is! I always thought I was a brunette going grey but the sad truth is I am grey with a bit of brown based on my hair loss! I can't decide whether to go for a wig or just stick with hats and scarfs.
Good luck to all those haing chemo this week, my next one is tomorrow and i am slightly dreading the cannula after the problems last week but there is nothing I can do about it and I have a very inventive nurse!
hugs all round, as we deserve them, Sunnybear
Congratulations on the news that you are soon to be a grandma that gives something to look forward too.Glad to hear the surgery has gone as well as possible for you and thank you for the tips regarding lemon water.
My diagnosis came as bit of a shock and dont feel that i have got my head around it i feel like this is just a bad dream. My children have both been fantastic so has the support from my partner / parents and friends. So i do feel very lucky to have them all .
Im hoping the chemotherapy will shrink the node and tumour as that is what is pressing on the nerve causing me pain and shortness of breath which in turn is making me not able to get out and keep busy like i normally would do.
The oncologist felt that chemotherapy is the first line of treatment in my case then to be followed by mastectomy.
My daughter is due to start University in september and my son is taking his Gcse so its a important time in their lives and i just want to able to support them like i normally would and not feel so poorly.
Hope you next session of treatment goes well for you and sending you lots of love and best wishes.
Dear Jem my hair is only just falling on day 17 but I know how you feel. Emotionally all these steps and changes are hard to bear. It feels to me that having cancer is bad enough, now we go through some awful changes to our bodies and minds to get better and heal. And hopefully we will but it’s a journey we would rather not be on.
My scalp is so sensitive even the wind in my hair hurts. I am going to try Aloe Vera. But another constant reminder. I am so sad you are feeling the loss of your hair, but it’s ok to feel that, your hair is part of who you are.
Take care and be kind to yourself.
My journey is pretty much identical to yours! Diagnosed with lobular cancer in October with 3 lymph nodes affected also. Mastectomy with reconstruction and node clearance in December. 1st chemo on 15th January (3xFEC and 3xDocetaxel), second round also on 5th Feb. I’ve also had the injections to boost bone marrow as I’ve got young children(6 and 1 years old) in nursery and school so god knows all the bugs they carry around and pick up!!
Glad your children have surprised you in their reaction to your diagnosis!
Good luck for Wednesday xx
Hi Daisy and everyone
This is my first post, I’m sorry to hear about your journey. I was diagnosed with lobular cancer, right breast with 3 affected lymph nodes in October. I had full mastectomy without reconstruction and lymph clearance in November. My wound has healed up quite well but for anyone having surgery later, I developed quite significant cording that we are working on in physio. I had my first chemo on 15th Jan, EC x 3 and then Dotaxcel x 3. My next chemo is 5th Feb and my hair started falling today., day 17. I decided against cold cap and wig but have chosen some lovely headscarves from Cancer Hair Care.org
I have a PICC and have found some nice coloured sleeves online from PICC-Me.
I found the ant-sickness meds effective against actual vomiting but had background nausea, Volvic lemon water ice cold is good. I didn’t feel like eating much in the first 7 days, small snack sized eating was better, now in my third week the appetite has recovered. I also have the Flamstrim injections for 7 days to stimulate my bone marrow. Once you have done it a couple of times it isn’t difficult or scary. But it can cause bone pain, it did to me and I was advised paracetamol.
I empathise about telling children about BC and managing their reaction. My kids are adult, but the week before I was diagnosed our daughter had announced her first baby. I was devastated about my BC and my first thought was how should I tell her? But in the end I had to just sit down and explain it to her truthfully and she has taken it well and is a fantastic and loving support to me. So I will be a grandmother sometime during my last cycle in April! Our son suffers with mental health issues so I was even more worried about his reaction but he is coping better than I had anticipated. It has made me realise that our children are stronger than we think and can step up to looking after us at a time when we need it.
I hope your first chemo goes well Daisy and best wishes to everyone. Sx
Thank you for replying and i wish you lots of love for Monday . Yes one step at our time and we will get there.
Take care and your not alone
Lots of love
Daisy D, try your Macmillan at your trust for pre loved wigs, also if you have a luvyababes they have great wigs not just fancy dress ones and at under £20 were fantastic. You can get a wig voucher at your trust and list of where you can go and have a look at wigs. It is a journey trying them on but you’ll know when it’s the one because you’ll still see you ❤️ And a warning the steroids will have you ordering coloured one, tinsel ones the lot as you get going, think a few of us ended up with bit of a collection, which then went back to our respective nhs Macmillan’s for others to have for a donation ❤️ If any of you have long hair, please think about donating to little princes trust that makes wigs for children and gives them to them for free ❤️ Turn a negative into a positive ❤️😘💕💕✨✨Shi xx
Thank you for bravely sharing your story. Remember you’re not alone. We’re cheering each other on. Just keep one foot in front of the other.
I am triple negative too and starting on Monday with EC.
Just wondered do the wigs take long to order ? I am thinking that if i could get a wig ready it may make things a bit easier i must admit im dreading to look in the mirror xx
Sorry to hear you are having a difficult time with the metallic taste
Just reading through others posts they seem to suggest that adding lemon to the water or having ice lolly made with pineapple juice helps . Also sucking on a boiled sweet may be worth trying. Glad to hear that the cold cap is working for you too. Im feeling so nervous to start on Tuesday but know the sooner the better really. Just finding it hard to sleep xx
Daisy d, sorry you find yourself on here, a good book that helped me was surviving triple negative breast cancer by Patricia prijatel, it’s not for everyone but it helped me. For the chemo, just remember it will be tailored specifically for you, it’s not a one size fits all. Few things to get before starting, thermometer it is important to keep check in temp. Senokot, anosol, steroids can back you up. A diary can help you keep track of your meds and temperature, do exactly as your team instruct regarding your meds, if the antisickness meds don’t work, ring them they will give you rapid response card with a number on they will tweak your meds, it doesn’t happen to everyone. Also some people have used travel bands to help with sickness if it happened. Get your look good feel better session booked through your Macmillan and ask about pre loved wigs they have or a wig voucher if you are not cold capping ❤️ Ask away on here, use the number at the top to ask a nurse and use the someone like me option too. Hope this helps 💕💕✨✨shi xx
So first cycle (EC) cold cap appears to have worked, I'm losing hair in other places but not my head yet. I had my second session on Monday and I am having a horrid time with the metallic taste second time around. I feel like I was less good drinking second time and wondered if the taste and drinking had a bit of a knock on affect or its going to be cumulative?!!!
I have been diagnosed with triple negative breast cancer on 10th January and due to start chemotherapy on Tuesday 4th February . I have appt with pre assessment unit on Monday. The treatment is paclitaxel on a weekly basis with carboplatin every 3 week then on to phrase 2 of Epirubicin every2 weeks then cyclophosphamide for every 2 weeks for the 24 weeks in total followed by mastectomy. I am experiencing on going chest pain since Oct which numerous visits to the Emergency Department stated chostocondrotis it is only now i have been told its BC and pain is caused by the necrotic node pressing on my nerve. The tumour is is my right breast with lymph nodes 2 axilla tested positive . Im really struggling at the moment to cope with all this sudden news and worry for my two darling children who have been so good ( Daughter is 18 and son 15 ) . They have been so supportive as well has all my family and friends. I just feel so scared of the thought of chemotherapy and what to expect. What im finding difficult is the amount of pain im experiencing which isnt responding to medication as im experiencing side effects such as dizziness and cant get out the house im going from bed to chair so struggling to keep busy as i would normally be positive and keeping busy ? Thank you for any replys xx
Hi Catd2504, the tastebud effect should be temporary. I didn’t have problems on FEC beyond the first day but on Docetaxol (the “T“ in FEC-T) my tastebuds suffered. They recovered by week 3 and now fully recovered. The hardest thing was struggling to drink water. I added lemon slices to water or drank herbal tea (lemon & ginger), added spices to food and found flavours like mango, passion fruit or rhubarb were nice and tangy without being acidic. Sometimes my tastebuds felt that food was slimy or like cardboard so I struggled with textures too. Quorn cottage pie worked well. Hope this gives you a few ideas to experiment with. You will find some foods which suit you but you have to sample a few before you find what’s right for you. Xxx
i completely understand how you feel and agree about our hair being our safety blankets. I found a really good website / shop which sells hair attached to hair bands. I bought a long one then returned it for a shorter one as I had my long hair bobbed in the hope the cold cap would be more successful. I haven’t need to wear it yet but it does look okay especially with a beanie on as then it just looks like my normal hair - I don’t think anyone on the school run would be able to tell the difference! I think it headscarves by Ciara1. I also spoke to a wig shop who said see how the cold cap works and then pop in as a hair piece just to cover the thinning might be fine. Second one Wednesday for me too! 🤞😬
My taste buds come and go - some days things are normal then other days I can’t really taste anything. Also find I’m eating just because I’m bored so need to try and stop that! I do agree with trying to get out in the fresh air for a walk as much as possible. Anyone tried Nordic walking? I love it - walking with poles. it really de stresses you, keeps you fit But isn’t as taxing as running. I found I could get out most days even if I was feeling a bit spaced out still from the chemo as the poles helped to keep me steady! Xxx
Can we talk taste changes? Had my first round of FEC on the 15th and last few days noticed my tastes are off. Does anyone have any experience of this and know whether it’s something that comes back between cycles or if this is it now until it’s all done and dusted?? Xx
Hope you are all doing ok. Here’s an excellent article on chemo and hairloss:https://pinklotus.com/powerup/breastcancer101/chemo-hair-loss-and-menopause-hair-too/
Wishuponastar you are so inspirational, I completely get all the emotions you have gone through as going through them at the moment.
Thank you for being so honest with everything I really need that and not to sugar coat the situation.
I feel like as you can’t tell (if you don’t know me) that my hair is really thin am getting my mum to cut it into a Bob today , but doubt it will last very much longer but may as well give it a go.... I ordered 6 hats (all being delivered today , thanks amazon prime!) so hoping once I have them I’ll have the courage to take the plunge and cut it off!
my hair is a safety blanket I HAD good hair before this and if my hair was done I would feel confident, but think beenies will become my best friends. I have a appointment with the hospital hairdresser on Wednesday to get a wig ordered so think I’ll be better mentally knowing that’s been ordered.
sending you lots of love, 😘😘 keep your head held high... xxxx
just read ur post... i couldnt believe how much hair i was losing.... came out in clumps so i had bald patches all over n my normal hair inbetween. I actually didnt lose it all but when i decided i couldnt stand hair everywhere i got some scissors and sat in front of a mirror and cut my remaining hair to about 1 inch length... then i sat there looking at myself, thinking who is this person and i cried and cried 🥺🥺😭😭
a few weeks later my husband gave me a number 2 just to keep it tidy. I wore my wig 3 times but preferred my beanies and scarves. When i was out and about i was surprised to see just how many ladies where wearing chemo headwear. I even got talking so some of them which was great.. but it does grow back... i know you're always being told that as i was 🤪🤪 but i am now 5 months since my final chemo and my hair is about 1-2 inches long all over, ive even gotta get it cut soon!!
so when you feel ready just do it, go for it... be brave, stay strong and take one day at a time....there will be an end to all this...its in the distance just waiting for you to ring that bell. Big hugs....mini mad xx 💖💖
Hi Bod, thanks for info on Herceptin as I have felt bad all week, glad to hear the flu symptoms will get less as I can’t do a year of feeling this bad!
Mine started coming out at the same time. I had lots of hair and it was very thick. It covered the floor of the shower then filled by brush. I really sobbed. I knew it was coming but the shock still his me very hard. My eyes still fill with tears at my reflection. It is like someone so different is looking back at me. Like you, I just felt so very exposed to the outside world. I had it clippered to a number 2 a few days later and now, 4 days post my second EC I have a fine fuzz. I would love to say it gets easier but I am not there yet. I have a wig that I bought before chemo but I do not like it. My friend has made me some great scarfs on soft bands, I can tie a turban, an infinity band, I wear Seasalt Handybands over a bamboo beanie and I have even ordered another wig to try. I would love to say I will rock the bald look but I doubt I will have the confidence. However, with 6 more chemo sessions to go, who knows.
Day 15 hit (Thursday) and my hair has been coming out in buckets full! I had quite thin hair (but lots of it!) but it’s now really thin and coming out in clumps! 😢😭 Even debating whether it’s worth to continue with cold capping with my next round (Wednesday)
Anyone who has experienced hair loss does the shedding stop or is it going to keep coming out till I buzz it off??
It has been a emotional 4 days, and I feel so silly getting upset over hair but It just makes the fact I have breast cancer so visual to EVERYONE I actually feel physically sick over the thought of having to shave it off.
anyone with similar experience?
I started Herceptin last July. Some people have flu like systems to begin with but for most the flu like symptoms get less severe or just go away. I also couldn’t stop eating but didn’t put on any weight. I did go walking everyday (2-3 miles) which also helped I think. Good luck BOD
Sunny ear hopefully someone who’s had herceptin will be able to help answer you ❤️Winshuponastar, sound like you had a potatoe digger doing your Chanula today 😳 you get to know the good ones who can canulate you in seconds against ones who can take a few times, hope you get portacath sorted out for next one 💕💕✨✨shi xx
I am home. Thank you so much for all the well wishes. It turns out there was an error. I was originally told I would have 8 cycles at 90% so when my consultant said he was lowering my dose by 10% as a result of what happened during cycle 1 i thought today I would be on 80%. It turns out I was started on 100% by mistake. I have now had 90%. Took a few attempts to get a canular in so hoping I get the portacath before the next cycle.
Good luck wishuponastar for today!!
Will be thinking of you and hopefully with the lower dose you won’t feel or have the symptoms you had in round 1! xxx
I had chemo on 08/01 and next one planned for 29/01, (pending on bloods results giving the go ahead) so 3 weeks to the day. My oncologist said not to try and work out finishing dates as they can change if you have to be defer a week if unable to go ahead as planned. Also I bought a diary and said to just always put the next appointment in it, would defo recommend a diary too if you haven’t already ready got one to make a note of how you are feeling on the days as your oncologist will ask how the round went and your symptoms too xxx
Good luck wishauponastar, hope this round goes more smoothly.
I was affected more by headaches for days, which I was told was the cold cap. I am possibly going to try once more, I'd like to keep my hair for just a little bit longer. It's day 11 post chemo not seeing any hair fall out yet.
Hi Helsbels20, glad to hear it is not just me that is eating everything insight! I am a little concerned I will put on loads of weight though.
does anyone know if Herceptin makes you feel as if you have flu? I had first Herceptin with taxol this week and feel really unwell.
good luck to everyone who is having chemo this week
A friend of mine had breast cancer a few years ago, shortly after giving birth to her first child. She was in her late 20s and had traces in both breasts and in her nodes. She is now 8 years clear and had her second child last year. She looks amazing and has beautiful thick hair now!
Wishuponastar hope today went well and I hope the next few days are good. Everyone else hope you are all doing okay, love reading your stories - I just craved carbs for the first week, crumpets dripping in butter, white toast, iced buns! Luckily that has now gone and am juicing loads to get lots of vitamins and to try and pretend I'm eating lots of healthy things before my next treatment!
I had my first AC chemotherapy to treat my Bilateral Breast Cancer on 10/01. First week was really hard as I felt extremely sick. Thanks after that I am well, now waiting for the second round on 31/01.
I also used cold cap and so far my full hair still here.
Anyone here knows positive feedbacks of curable breast cancer with several nodes infected?
All really good to hear
when they say three weeks do they mean chemo week one; rest week two; then chemo again week three?
Hope it all goes well today.
Your Angry Bird description made me lol. I approached two places but since I’m so close to chemo they won’t do the microblading. I’ll brave it x
Hi Annie and welcome. I did not cold cap as I am having 8 cycles (4 of EC and 4 of T) and my nurse suggested it was more likely not to work than work so I personally felt I would rather just accept that I would lose my hair. If I was having less cycles, I certainly would have tried. As it is, I lost loads of hair on day 16, had it clippered to a number 2 on day 18 and now on day 23 I am almost completely bald! I have found this really tough, far tougher than I thought. I think it is because my cancer is no longer hidden inside and there is a very clear visual that I am going through chemotherapy. I just feel rather exposed. However, I have put my big girl pants on and my children have been great (9,9 and10).
I had my eyebrows microbladed but I do not think the lady did enough strokes (I was concerned I would get Angry Bird eyebrows so asked for it to be subtle). Sadly, they have really faded and I did not have time for the top up.
As for diet, my taste changed but I did manage to eat and drink just different things to what I normally like. By day 8 I was more or less back to normal.
I have round 2 starting today. As a result of my reaction to round 1 they have lowered my dose and I are starting injections on day 2 not 5. I also cannot drive at all this cycle as a result of the fainting last time. This is a nightmare but luckily I have great friend who are helping me to get the children to and from school.
I am terrified. I really do not want to end up in hospital again.
Hi Annie5, it’s a lovely group and we will get through this together keep positive!
I was diagnosed beginning of December and like yourself having chemo before surgery with a hope to shrink to give more surgery options. I had my 1st round of chemo on the 8/01 EC like yourself, and I have honestly been great. I mostly struggled with fatigue (so plenty of rest and early nights) but other than that I have been great. I did get some ulcers in my mouth but I bought some alcohol free mouthwash and again this cleared up after 2 days.
I am also cold capping , and again I didn’t fine this unbearable, I took my own leave in conditioner and even though I am noticing a bit of shedding at the moment hair is still in tacked. I am also guilty of getting my eye brows microbladded before chemo started as like you I have young children (10,7,3) and wanted to look normal for as long as possible but don’t think I’ll be able to get the top up as this falls within my treatment and the risk of infection is probably too high, but least I have the base!
shopping wise I have actually found my appetite had been really good and I find myself eating more (little and often) make sure you have little snacks in and quick meals (or batch cook some meals that will only need re-heating) for the 1st couple of days too I found this helped when I lacked in energy. Oh and ginger biscuits incase you feel nauseous... I felt strange as the symptoms aren't automatic and it’s probably worst waiting for some to hit you!
good luck for next Friday, I will be thinking of you!
Thank you for sharing all your heroic stories. It really is a huge encouragement and we will beat this
I was diagnosed over Christmas with triple negative lump and nodes. My treatment will be EC three cycles and then another type; op; radiation.
I am due to start next Friday. I have a 4.5 year old son and I’m going to try scalp cooling and from the blog maybe the microblading. I want to look as much myself as possible for him.
Any advice on the scalp cooling and diet? I need to shop before the first chemo.
What to eat during chemo? My pretreatment appointment is the day before chemo but I have a week to prep.
All the best x
Mini mad, thank you. I am glad to hear that the picc line is working for you. I suppose I just need the easiest option in terms of both having it fitted then maintaining it. It is so hard to know what to do for the best. However, I will possibly not even get a choice but it will be good to be better informed before the appointment on Tuesday. Thanks all.
Thank you Frenchie and Lorna. I am seeing my oncologist on Tuesday and in theory starting my next cycle on Thursday. Goodness know when I would have a port fitted but with 7 more cycles to go I do feel it is the way forward.
when i started my chemo only one of my hands could be used. I was getting in such a state that by the time i arrived for my treatment i was already climbing the walls 😱😱
Chemo sister suggested a picc line which i had put in and never regretted it. Made everything so simple and pain free 👍
i also live an hour away from my hospital but you get into a routine going once a week to have bloods taken and line cleaned and flushed through.
Maybe give it some more thought. Portacath insertion is, i believe more of a minor operation. Picc took about 25 minutes, slight discomfort for a few days then all f
Sorry just a quick reply as I've only got a minute but just wanted to say that I have a port and it was a bit painful for a few days after having it put in but it was fine after that and it was really brilliant when having chemo. You can put emla on your skin before chemo and it's then totally painless and no bother between sessions. I'd really recommend it. Hope that helps.
Lots of love and positive vibes to everyone xx
So I had my port checked all okay, I was too overprotective of it and caused my neck to stiffen up and the shoulder and neck area are inflamed because of that. I am also reacting to the dressings, typical! Once it's all healed it should be much better and easier.
When they doing your next chemo session wishuponastar?
Sunnybear I am sorry to hear you thought you were Her2 negative and now you are not. How can that happen? I completely empathise with the news just getting worst...been there!
LornaJ, do you have a portacath then? I thought they were supposed to be great so I am sorry to hear it is getting knocked and is uncomfortable. Whilst I was in hospital the staff were really struggling to get blood as they can only use one side. They said I need to ask about a poracath or a picc line. The thing with the picc line is it needs cleaning every week and I live an hour away from the hospital so really wanted to avoid having to go so often if I can. Helsbels which do you have and how are you finding it?
Shi, I was all for donating my hair but sadly it was coloured and not quite long enough. One of my daughters could not understand why we could not just make a wig out of the hair we shaved off. She even offered me hers! I bought a wig before starting chemo but I hate it and it was expensive. I now feel I cannot justify buying another. I am currently wearing a bamboo beanie with a Seasalt handyband around it for bulk and interest. My friend has also made me some great scarfs that have soft jersey band with the scarf bits attached. I suppose I just did not want the world to know I was going through chemo but I just have to get my big girl pants on and cope. I have done one school run so far. I just hope it gets easier.
Jemmalou, I really hope all of your efforts work and you manage to keep your hair. I had the option of a cold cap but my nurse said with needing 8 rounds of treatments is was very unlikely to work for me so I just decided not to even try.
I am feeling okay now, just terrified of ending up in hospital again. My discharge letter confirmed neutropenic sepsis!
Hi just found that my tumour is HER2 positive after being told it was not! So I start Heceptin on Monday.
just feeling overwhelmed by everything and cold cap is not for me so trying to get a wig!
all the best to those others going through hair loss - embrace your difference!