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June 2021 Chemo Starters

hopeful1974
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@Flower123 Family popping over must have been lovely. I am feeling a bit better again now and watching Friends with my daughter. I am going to try going for a stroll down to the beach after dinner so that at least I will have been out once today! Your pizza sounds nice. Take care xxx

Flower123
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@hopeful1974 

Sorry you have not been good today . The heat is certainly getting to everyone. Glad you have had some good days away and hopefully tomorrow you will be up to a bit more . I expect it lovely we’re you are and not to busy . 

I had family over today and they lifted my spirit and am feeling better . Just given my little sausage a cool bath and hubby has popped in a ham mushroom pizza I fancied.

Take it easy xx

hopeful1974
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@Flower123 So sorry you had the nasty bone pain on top of everything else. I hope they can tweak things next time so that it doesn’t happen again. 

I am really struggling in this heat and looking forward to the drop in temperature tomorrow. I only had three days of steroids this time as my oncologist said that I shouldn’t have had five days last time. As a result, I was really sick this morning and have been wiped out for the rest of the day. I have hardly had my eyes open all day. On the advice of the hotline, I took an Ondansetron tablet which seems to have helped and I have not been sick again. I am feeling a little better now but the heat is not helping. I am still glad we came to Cornwall as we had two good days and I am hopeful that I will feel better tomorrow. 

How is everyone else doing? xxx

GonnaGetThruThis
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Thanks everyone, its good to know that the effort we are going through is worth it.

@FairieI am having 3 x 3 weekly sessions of EC and then moving onto 12 weekly sessions of Pacliataxel.

Fairie
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@GonnaGetThruThisThat’s wonderful news! 👏👏👏Really pleased for you!🥰

are you having 4 Chemos or 6?

sending lots of love 

Sharon (Fairie) xxx

 

Flower123
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@GonnaGetThruThis This is amazing news . Im

sure the best ever fish and chips celebration  meal .

@hopeful1974 It sounds like your getting a good balance away and it certainly is very warm !

I have been reading the post and nice to hear what everyone is doing and experience . I think most of us are struggling with the warm weather and fatigue! For me it started of good after Friday chemo first few days outside or sofa with fatigue and what they call chemo belly such a pain on right side between right rib cage and lower stomach. Then no sleep due to steroids. These SE I was managing BUT then omg had my 3 rd evening injection on day 4 and within a few hours my body was in so much pain hubby could not even touch my hand without the pain going through body . Took paracetamol but the pain was so intense I could not take it anymore.Even sat in warm bath with Epsom salt at 1.30 am to try get some relief. My poor family have seen a side of chemo that they have struggled with seeing  me in some much pain . It got to the stage hubby call helpline and they got me on morphine straight away . Tonight had last injection and pain relief seems to have helped a bit .Sorry for the long message as you all understand some days worse and tonight no sleep again . 

Thank you all for your support sending love Jennifer x

 

Louise65
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@GonnaGetThruThis That is such good news totally understand your hubby bless him and bet the fish and chips tasted all the better.

@hopeful1974 glad to hear your doing OK and enjoying your break away. 

Xxxx

JessicaB
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@GonnaGetThruThis so pleased to hear this news xxxx

hopeful1974
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@GonnaGetThruThis so delighted for you! Hopefully that will give you good motivation as you go forward. I’m so glad you had a lovely meal to celebrate too. 

I dozed a lot on and off today (not helped by the heat) but then we just had a gorgeous coastal walk into the nearest town for dinner and I enjoyed some Cornish hake. Not too bad for day 3 after chemo!

Hope everyone else is ok. xxx

 

Jennet
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That is fabulous fantastic news. Well done you. Keep going x

GonnaGetThruThis
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Ladies I need to impart some good news in amongst all my recent doom and gloom.

Hubby and I just went to the hospital for a checkup with the Oncology Dr.

As I said before I wasn't sure what to expect as it was the first one with her since I started the treatment but expected her to ask me about how ive been coping and for her to give me an examination and I was right.

She was impressed I hadn't had any major side effects and of course the fatigue is common but that i was coping well.

She asked if i felt there was a change in the lump and I said that I think it's either hiding well or definitely gotten smaller but she would be able to tell me for sure. This is the part I was waiting for as I was absolutely positive it had shrunk.

After having a good feel 😅 she said wow yes it has definitely reduced to only about 1cm (from 5cm when she last checked before treatment).

So yeah that is bloody amazing news and even more so as it is is early on as I've only just had treatment 2.

For now we carry on with the same treatment plan and will discuss surgery later on down the line.

I'll see her again next in September when I will have had the last EC and I should have had at least 3 of the weekly doses of P and also the results of the generic testing will have come back.

Hubby was so happy to have some good news he was practically bouncing out of the hospital.  So on the way home we stopped off at the Fish and Chippy to 'celebrate' 😅😅😅 I would have preferred to crack open a bottle of bubbles but that will have to wait.

Love to all x

 

Louise65
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@GonnaGetThruThis it sounds like we go through similar. I hit day 6 and my body just cant function. After my 2nd session i ended up in bed days 6-8 then days 9&10 on the settee. I managed to eat small amounts but  drinking was hard going. I managed to get just enough in me by having tea, chocolate milk and strong ribena. I think i managed to hang washing out but that was it. Im so hoping my final EC Friday i dot go through the same. 

@hopeful1974 hoping your trip away is good and you get to enjoy it, a change of scene is definitely good for the mental health. 

@Impatience had my covid test today so back to being a prisoner, early tomorrow i have my bloods then thats it until Friday. I will go in the same as last time as relaxed as possible and drinking lots in the hope the first days  i can function fairly normal. Hope all goes well for you xx

@Trowster Love the wig but you also rock the bald look. I only wear a sunhat now i just get to hot. I go shopping etc bald and apart from today when i did make a couple feel uncomfortable after they just sat there staring at me ive not had any unpleasantries. 

@Mai7 @Flower123 @JessicaB @Heels to walking boots @hopeful1974 @Jennet hope your all well. Apologies if ive missed anyone im doing this using pc and mobile and should of written everyones names down at the start. 

love and support Louise xxx

GonnaGetThruThis
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Thankfully feeling better than the last half week but still decided to have a sit on the couch and do nothing day. I've been binge watching The Serpent.  The heat is still making it tough but hopefully I can see light at the end of the tunnel so to speak.

Hope everyone else is doing OK?

hopeful1974
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@GonnaGetThruThis I certainly had a very hard time with EC. How many more cycles of it do you have? My family had to adapt to my new way of being and just had to learn to look after themselves a bit more! My tip for your meeting with the oncologist is to write down any questions you have as it is very easy to forget to ask something. 

I had my treatment today with the Carboplatin reduced to 50% of the normal dose to hopefully prevent my neutrophils from plummeting. I had 80% of the Docetaxel and full amounts of Trastuzumab and Pertuzumab. I am feeling fine so far and we are on our way to Cornwall. This may well be our only holiday this year, so I am very pleased we were still able to go. It would have been such a shame to miss it because of a delay in chemo. I know I will have a sleepy day or two, but that is fine as the others can go to the beach and leave me dozing. I have to avoid the sun sadly as my facial skin is so sensitive to it that it breaks out in spots, some of which are painful. They go away as soon as I have been away from the sun for a day or so! Like you, I normally love the sun but it doesn’t love me at the moment. So, the less good weather forecast for the end of the week will be welcome for me! 

Sending love and hugs to you all. xxx

GonnaGetThruThis
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Hi everyone,

Well this last week, for the first time I feel like I'm 'on the journey' as I have been doing it quite tough.   Reading through other posts though clearly not as tough as some others, but in comparison to my first 3 weeks cycle it i way worse. First couple of days were fine and then Wed/Thurs afternoon i felt alot more tired after being fairly nornal in the mornings (as in feeling ok and also carry on with stuff) but then Friday it just hit me.  My whole body was exhausted and i just shut down.  I was trying to explain the feeling to my husband in that it wasn't just being really tired but thaty exhausted me more so i gave up.  Sat was the same and so i just let the rest of the house get on with it.  Sunday I was mildly bettter but then of course the heat just made it a million times worse.  I have never ever complained about the hot weather here as i love it but now..... not so much!  Bring on bloody winter!  I mean 'normal people' struggle in the heat dont they so of course this is going to be much worse for us.   I woke up this morning and felt better but tired from the heat and interupted sleep.  I had to do some work and bits and pieces so did them throughout the day and made sure i rested in between (in the coolest room with the fan blasting).

It is day 8 or me so I probably need to accept that this is more the first week reality than my first cycle.  For those that read my comment last Monday, i only had the 50% dose of E so attribute this to the extra 50%, plus accumulation plus the heat.    Today my head is qute fuzzy and i feel like i have blocked sinusus, but apart from that i seem to be ok, hopefully.  Still eating, drinking, going to the loo ok, which i know is important.  Fingers crossed it is on the up from here.

Just checked my calendar and remembered I have an oncology appointment on Wed afternoon.  It will be with the Dr I saw before treatment who checked me out and I agreed treatment with.  Anyone know what will happen?  I assume it is a quick q&a and she will examine me?

Finally, sorry for those others that are also sufferering this cycle.  We have to remind ourselves it is a means to an end and we will get through this and we are now 1 day closer to that end.  Thinking of each and everyone of you and looking forward to hearing some more positive in the coming days.

Kim x

Trowster
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Aw Yvonne, so sorry to hear things have not been so good for you, I hope upping your fluid intake will help with the next kidney tests, so sorry you’ve had awful nausea too I hope that will now improve as time goes on, Morgan’s in Chester are so nice, she ordered me some in that I liked in different colours, I only tried the white one on as a joke but actually loved it, I also went to the shop in Prestatyn as they hold different stock, just try and take it easy and don’t push yourself to hard, but with this heat remember to keep drinking plenty, we want you at home not in hospital, xx

Impatience
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Hi @Fairie 

I’m really sorry to hear you are having a hard time but you have done this before so you will do it again. Keep telling yourself this will end. 

On a more practical note I also suffer from the smell thing especially in my first week. I found a smell I liked (lavender) and I have it at the side of my bed and when I feel yuk I smell it and it seems to work. I’ve surrounded myself with nice smells. 

I started out this treatment eating high grain healthy food but this did make me go to the loo so I’ve reverted to very plain food in small amounts. The porridge has been replaced with cornflakes, multi grain bread to plain white small slices etc. I’ve also cut out caffeine. 

Wishing you a much better week. Take care. 

Imp xx

hopeful1974
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@Fairie By the way, I am terrible without sleep so now have a routine of Lorazepam for the first 7 days and then I take Nytol Sleep and Calm Elixir each night after that. I know I can get back to good sleep unaided as I did it after my operation for 6 weeks, but during chemo I just need to be able to sleep and the steroids and other drugs really mess it up for me. 

hopeful1974
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Dear @Fairie , I feel for you so much as I have been there when on EC. I have tried a few things differently this time and have had a much easier time of it although who knows which things have made the difference:

- I take two probiotic tablets each day (my oncologist okayed this) which help with my tummy and mood

- I have my 7 day supply of Lorazepam and take one each night before bed. It is a sedative, anti-anxiety and also anti-nausea so really helps me. 

- I started on SSRI Citalopram back in March and that has also balanced my mood and sleep

- I got to the point where I was feeling completely and utterly overwhelmed with it all and counselling helped me through that (I got some free from Macmillan and also from my hospital). The Macmillan counsellor gave me some great anti-anxiety strategies which I use still from time to time. I would be happy to share these if anyone is interested.

- My family had to make a massive adjustment to me being incapacitated and my mum and neighbours have been bringing round meals as cooking has been a challenge when I have been tired and nauseous. Sometimes, just the smell of what I was cooking would put me off! They are in a routine of looking after me now and that makes it all so much easier.

I found that all of these things help me enormously and I also have made it very clear to my oncologist that I need some quality of life during my treatment without compromising the outcome. He is being hugely supportive and tweaking things as we go. Ironically, my mental and physical states have been ok this time round but my bloods have told a different story. Off to hospital now. I really wish you all well and don’t give up hope that things will get better. This is such an incredibly tough journey but we are strong enough to do it! xxx

Fairie
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Dear All

line Yvonne I’ve been struggling so not posted for a while.

I find every time I eat a little something I get a very painful tum and end up having to dash off to the loo. It’s painful and tiring. 
I went out for a short trip out to Sainsbury’s yesterday to get a few bits and connect with society and it turned into a mad dash home for the loo🤦‍♀️
My sense of smell is driving me nuts and it feels like everything stinks!! 

I either don’t sleep at all until early hours or I do sleep well. 
so I’m a bit down and dreading yet again cycle 3. Some days I don’t know how I will do the whole six.

I had FEC 14 years ago and it was horrendous and I keep reminding myself of that I managed it and can do this. Trying to stay positive but it’s also hard when feeling so flattened.

my oncologist messed around with what should have been a face to face meeting tomorrow at the local hospital 5 mins away and he cancelled it to a hospital an hour away for last weds right when I was in the worst week and could not leave my own bathroom. Then I had a call to see he had gone home sick but would call me from home. I waited for his call but as had not slept the night before I dropped off and missed his call. He told my husband he’d call back but I’ve not heard since so I need to try and find him. 

im really trying to stay steady and positive.. 

I send you ALL my love and positive thoughts xxxx Fairie ❤️

Impatience
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Hi @simplyeve 

Sorry to hear you have struggled and I hope you have turned a corner and feel much better moving forward. 

@hopeful1974 

Hope your next session goes well and you have a good holiday. Certainly great weather for being by the sea!

@Louise65 

I will be thinking of you on Friday when we have our 3rd session - half way!!

Also wishing everyone else a good week. 

I’m on day 17 of my 2nd cycle of EC and physically it has been a good cycle with little side effects. However mentally it has been tough. I’ve worried about infection/hospitalisation and the future. I’m seeing the oncologist today so hoping to talk through some of my fears and get some of my normal positivity back 🤞

Take care everyone. 

Imp xxx

hopeful1974
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@simplyeveCan I just ask how long you take the steroids for? Does the nausea start when you’re taking them or when you have stopped? For some reason I was given 5 days of steroids last time (8 tablets from day before chemo until day 2 and then 4 tablets on days 3-4). They helped enormously with any feelings of nausea I had but this time my oncologist said I shouldn’t have been given 5 days’ worth and should just take the first 3 days’ worth. I still had a little nausea on days 3-4 so hoping Domperidone will be enough! xxx

hopeful1974
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Dear @simplyeve , I am sorry you haven’t felt that well this time round. I have a seven day supply of Lorazepam which is similar to Diazepam and it helps me enormously. I use it mainly to get sleep as I have always felt really hyper after the steroids and continue to use it after stopping the steroids until I have finished my injections as it just calms me and helps with my sleep. I then stop with that as my hospital won’t prescribe it long term and I use Nytol Sleep and Calm Elixir (an over the counter herbal remedy) instead which works very well for sleep and anxiety. I learnt that for me is anxiety definitely removes my appetite and makes me nauseous so those two anti-anxiety meds helped me a lot.

I suffered a lot with nausea when I had EC chemo and Ondansetron was the drug which was most effective for my nausea when it was really acute. It is strong and not everyone can have it but I found that it stopped the nausea in its tracks when necessary.

 

I really hope your team can get to the bottom of what is causing you to feel so unwell and try not to despair as they can tweak things as long as you keep on at them enough. 

I hope that your energy returns enough for you to make the visit to the wig lady and wish you all the best for your kidney function test. You’re a third of the way through and I really hope that with each cycle you have an easier time than the last one as they tweak the meds and doses if necessary. Sending love and hugs. 😘

simplyeve
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Hello Ladies,

Sorry for the long absence, but once again I have found myself struggling to get through my treatment and in particular the last 5 days, though the lower dose has helped tremendously I have continued to suffer with Nausea and the cyclazine dose of 3 per day just simply wasn't enough.  Whilst I have avoided hospitalization I have had to get additional meds for my nausea and to be honest have found it a mental struggle too so have been given diazapam for days when I feel I cannot cope.  I had my bloods done on Thursday last week and they showed my kidney function was starting to decrease again, so I have desperately been trying to increase my fluids, the heat hasn't particularly helped, tomorrow I have to go for a repeat test, so fingers crossed that I have managed to do enough.  Today I am finally feeling like I am on the up so hopefully from here on I will be able to manage to get back to some sort of normality.

@hopeful1974  good luck with your treatment tomorrow and I hope you have a really lovely week away with your family. xx

@Trowster  I love the wig, I was looking at making an appointment with the wig lady in Chester too, but just haven't felt well enough to make the effort, seeing your photo's has inspired me to look again and maybe I can sort something out after my next treatment.

@JessicaB @Impatience @Flower123 @GonnaGetThruThis @Heels to walking boots @Louise65 @Fairie I do hope you are all managing to cope with whatever stage of your treatment you are now at.  

I have been logging in regularly and seeing your posts just didn't have the energy enough to summon a response, despite trying several times.  Despite being low, it has been really helpful to be able to read your posts and hear how everyone is getting on.  Take care everyone.

Much love to all Yvonne xxx

 

Trowster
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hi hopeful, I really hope your reaction to chemo this week is as good as your last one, but as you are in a private house at least you can take yourself off to rest whenever it’s needed, and I hope you will all have a wonderful time away, I got out on the bike yesterday for 24 miles, and I’m also hoping to get out tomorrow, the fact he has delayed my treatment by 1 week has really benefited me, and I’m hoping I will be as good after the chemo as I was last time, no sickness, have a good week everyone and make the most of this nice weather, 

hopeful1974
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How are you all? I hope you have had a good weekend. The days were a bit hot for me so I hid in the shade and cool rooms of the house, but come the evening yesterday it had cooled down enough for a bbq. Chemo day is tomorrow and then we are heading off straight down to Cornwall! I am wondering if I am mad, but it was meant to be a week after my chemo, which was then delayed. My first week after chemo last time was not too bad at all and we are in a private house, so I am hoping it will be fine. I think the change and break will benefit the whole family so much. I have been so full of energy today from the steroids that I am worried that I am wearing myself out as I just kept on going all day with shopping, ironing, packing. I still didn’t feel sleepy so have taken a Lorazepam to counteract the effets of the steroids. 

@Trowster did you get out on the bike? Your precautions with sun screen and nail protection sound great. I have taken to wearing cotton gloves now whenever I am doing anything around the house. I think that side effect is particularly bad with Docetaxel. 
Keen to hear how the rest of you are getting on, particularly my THCP buddies, Sharon @Fairie and Yvonne @simplyeve Have you both had your second doses now and if so, have you had a better experience than after the first dose? 
Lots of love to you all. Siân xxx

JessicaB
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What fantastic pictures! The wig looks fabulous! Enjoy you day everyone, but take care in that heat…

Trowster
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Hi Hopeful

this wig is so much lighter than. The one I had 13 years ago, I have had gel polish put on my fingers n toes in a dark shade, and so far so good, I also put a lot of moisturiser on my hands n feet before bed n wear socks n gloves n so far my hands n feet are really good, my own hair was very thick and I often got complimented on it so I was devastated to lose it again, I’m planning on going for a ride tomorrow with my sister n some friends my first ride since 27th June, but I will put lots of sunscreen on, don’t want to get burnt, glad you had a nice day n a pleasant chat to pass the time away xx

hopeful1974
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@Trowster You look fantastic in your wig! I do find that I am in a better mood when I have mine on. I have also received way more compliments about my wig hair than I used to about my natural hair, which was quite thin. I spent the morning in hospital waiting for blood test, clinic and prescriptions, but had a good book with me and also struck up a conversation with a nice lady so it was not all bad! Your day sounds quite idyllic. I’ll be hiding from the sun tomorrow as it seems that Docetaxel has made my skin super sensitive to sunlight, which is what causes my skin to break out. I’ve also been told to wear gloves when doing household tasks as my fingers are getting sore around my nails. It’s not the worst side effect but I want to look after the nails so that they don’t fall off! 

I hope everyone else is fine and that you all have as relaxing a weekend as possible. xxx

Trowster
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Glad everyone seams to be coping ok moving forward with the treatments, I think having done the first one we at least know what’s coming at us, I went for my wig today in Chester with my Sister,  then had a lovely walk along the groves to the Boathouse Pub, silly me I thought I would be able to get a drink, but no because I hadn’t booked we couldn’t get a drink, so we ended up at the lovely Moorings Cafe with a lovely Old Moot Fruit Cider, my Picc Line has settled down and stopped bleeding, but I’m going to nip to the ward on Monday when the Picc Line Nurse Practitioner is on duty, I’ve done more steps today than I’ve done in the past 2 weeks, but it was such a lovely day along the river, a lady in the cafe complimented me on my top and her friend said I just love your hair the cut is great and she wanted to know where I’d had it done, I felt fantastic as this was my first time out in the in wig, when I told her she said she was shocked, the bottom one was my natural hair, middle how I look now, n top one is one of the wigs I bought, 

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hopeful1974
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Hi all,

@Flower123 Wishing you all the best for this next chemo session. 
@GonnaGetThruThis Glad you are feeling ok and I think it’s a very good idea to ‘go with the flow’. It reduces stress!

@Trowster I hope your PICC line gets sorted. I don’t have experience of those as I have a port, so can’t say what is normal or not. 
I hope everyone else is ok.

I have heard at clinic today that my bloods are good for chemo on Monday. I had G-CSF injections for the last couple of days which always do the trick for me. For my next cycle, I will have the Carboplatin chemo reduced still further which they are hopeful will be enough to prevent my neutrophils from plummeting again. I will also be given two extra doses of G-CSF injections to take in case my bloods are not good enough at the next blood test. They seem to know what they are doing, so I am just trusting the process. So, we are still going to Cornwall. I had not planned to be away the week immediately post chemo, but last time I felt fine and I may as well be feeling tired in Cornwall as at home! xxx

Impatience
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Hi 

@Flower123 

Hope your 2nd cycle goes well. 

Wishing everyone else a good weekend too  

Imp x

Flower123
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Good Morning and what a beautiful day the sun is shining !

@Trowster I really hope you get the line sorted and move forward for next treatment 

@GonnaGetThruThisGlad you are still feeling quite well to do little bits .

Today I have 2nd Chemo but not till 2.30pm last time it was 10.45 . Feel at a lose end just thinking and waiting to leave for a 35 min drive to oncology. Well going to do online food shopping for next week !

Hope everyone else is ok and have a lovely weekend 

Jennifer xx

GonnaGetThruThis
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@Trowsterthat PICC line definitely seems like it needs looking at.  I havent had anything like that at all and have had it in 4 weeks now.  There was only a tiny bit of blood after day 1 but then it was cleaned and i havent had any issues since then at all.  i have had it cleaned/flushed etc 3x and all fine.

Sorry to those who have been delayed , but hopefully its only for a short time and we do need our bodies to be in tip-top condition to receive the chemo so we need to remember that.

So after EC treatment 2 on Monday I was totally fine for the next 48 hours, managed a workout, quite a bit of work, even though i had been up since 4.30am and then bang about 2pm yesterday i hit the wall.  Assume this was total body fatigue so i put myself to bed.  i couldnt sleep as my mind was quite active but my body and eyes were shattered.  After 6pm i started to feel better then got up and made myself eat and that did seem to do the trick.  Then in the evening i just chilled about about 10 i was tired as in reay for bed. 

Slept again today till 4:45 (thanks steroids) but woke up feeling ok (to be 'ok' is no nausea/pain etc).  So i spent an hour on the phone chatting to my sister in Australia and then texting with another friend at home as well.   At 6.30 got up for weetbix and banana so i could have my morning steroids and then did some work then took my daughter to the school uniform shop for her new Y7 uniform (want to get it sorted sooner rather than later incase i am severely lacking in energy in 4-5 weeks time).  Had just about enough energy to get the shopping done then came home and again at about 2pm i was shattered.  Again said thing with my body and eyes but my brain was still happily ticking alomg organising the diary in my head.  About 5.30 i felt better so go up and again ate.  See the pattern here....  then from about 7 till now 8.30pm) i have my second wind so im plowing through lots of personal/work admin and making the most of it.  So lets see what tomorrow will bring.  No more steroids for me so looking back at my diary to cycle 1, i can look forward to the comedown from this on Sat/Sun.  All things considered though im still not really complaining (yet!) and like always taking it day by day.

Hows the rest of the team going?

 

Trowster
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Hi Ladies, 

reading the posts I realise that I have nothing written in my book regarding my diagnosis, so I might ask for this to be added, for those having treatments tomorrow I hope it goes well I’m sorry I won’t be joining you, as my treatment has been delayed by 1 week, and I am feeling really good at the moment, had a lovely day out with the hubby to Llandudno, then been to have a lovely manicure n pedicure, I had a Picc Line fitted on Tuesday, it bled quite a bit on Wednesday morning, but the district nurse changed the dressing and it appeared to stop, then it bled a bit more last night, dressing changed again this morning and it flushed well, but I’ve just noticed it’s been bleeding again, I have applied pressure, did any of you ladies have this occur when you had a line fitted, I might just phone the ward in the morning, she had a nightmare finding this vein, I really hope I won’t have to have it redone but in my bad ar,, 

Louise65
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@JessicaB 

I had surgery in April - lumpectomy and SLNB at that point the consultant thought mine was hormone negative so I was only going to be having radiotherapy then the 5 years of drugs. However when we went back for results we found out it was triple negative and although I didnt have to have chemo looking at the reoccurance percentage i opted to go through with it.

Ive been out on my own to a large Boundary Mills outlet near me today and went in with nothing on my head its just to hot. I was aware a few people did a double take but i felt quite empowered, Its hot enough wearing a mask.

Anyone who struggles with constipation another good tip is sugar free werthers i had them when i had my knee replacement and they really helped. 

How is everyone else doing @Heels to walking boots i have a treatment book however i didnt realise until after 2nd treatment they hadnt written my results in so i rang and asked. They didnt want to at first but as i explained if i was to go away and something happened at least i have record with me.

Love to all

Louise xx

 

hopeful1974
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@Flower123 I have 5 more of this drug regimen to go. I will then continue on with the 2 targeted therapy drugs until June next year. That will be followed by hormonal therapy for 10 years, so a long way to go yet! The only thing I won’t be having is radiotherapy. xxx

Flower123
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Thank you both for replying 

@Impatience Thank will speak about physio with them on next assessment.

@hopeful1974  Thats good as forgot you had already hard some chemo already.
No I have not had reconstruction. After the 6 cycles I will have a short break then small op as not clear margins after April op ( took a while to get results back ) so they decided chemo to start . Then radiotherapy then hormonal tablets.
Have you got just 2 of this chemo then you have finished.

Jennifer x

 

 

hopeful1974
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@Flower123 Thank you. I am not overly stressed about the delay to the chemo as I have already had some chemo in Feb-March and also I have had my mastectomy (April) so see this as more of a mop-up chemo which will hopefully prevent the cancer from returning. My oncologist said that the key thing is ghat I get both of the targeted therapy drugs and he can alter the chemo as necessary to enable me to complete the treatment. 

I don’t really have any issues with my mastectomy scar yet but I am on a different chemo from you and also did not have reconstruction (I can’t remember if you said you’d had that). 

I identify with what you are saying about getting tired and emotional. I had an exciting few days a week or so ago and then had a bit of a crash afterwards! 

Hope you have a good evening. xxx

Impatience
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Hi

@Flower123 

Good to hear you are all set for round two. Hope it goes well. 

I had surgery in April. Due to the fact my tumour was directly behind my nipple lumpectomy wasn’t an option so I had single mastectomy. I also had all my lymph nodes out as I had 14 with cancer. 

Chemo does affect the surgery. The chemo has made me stiffer and my skin on my chest/breast area is rock hard. My physio said chemo can dry you out. I also had slight swelling on my upper arm which is chemo related. It has got me down but my physio told me just to let it go as by the end of chemo my arm/healing will be as before and no worse. 

I’m not sure if you know but the physio will do massage on the area. I have it every 2 weeks and it does help. Might be worth asking for. 

I can’t believe we go through such major surgery and then chemo and then radiotherapy. Just goes to show how strong we women are!!

Take care. Imp xx

Flower123
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Hello Everyone ,

@JessicaB Thank you I had a lovely time with granddaughter however have suffered last few days with fatigue and very emotional. I suppose I did do a lot of walking and it was very warm . I absolutely love the knitted hats on the innocent smoothie. You are doing a fab job for great charity’s. Sounds like you have been doing quite a bit to keep you going .

@hopeful1974 So sorry your not getting chemo on Friday must be very upsetting. Fingers crossed it increases for Bloods Friday for Monday Chemo . At least we are being well looked after by the hospital.

@Impatience  Hope your feeling more comfortable and not so worried with your mouth . I am to such a worrier so totally understand. I have had a meeting at my oncology department with a psychologist which  only took a week to come through. Talking  about things certainly helps and so nice to do it face to face 

I have had bloods done and oncology assessment said all good to go Friday for 2nd chemo they have written me up for a few new medication to help if get ulcers, constipation and have been told need to eat  more !! 
Has anyone had an operation before starting chemo ? I have had lumpectomy and all nodes removed and finding breast very tender . Oncology did say operation wounds don’t like chemo 

I hope everyone else is doing well and having a good day . I too am not good with IT so will have to get out paper and write down who says what so can type to everyone.

Jennifer x

 

hopeful1974
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Hi @JessicaB I’m so glad to hear you’re feeling ok. I remember with EC that the first few days were the worst, so fingers crossed for you. 

I have had my chemo delayed again to Monday. I am having three days of G-CSF injections and my bloods will be taken again on Friday. If my neutrophils are high enough then, Monday will go ahead. I will be having my doses of the chemo reduced again because of this as they need me to make it safely through the treatment. I do hope I manage to have the chemo on Monday. Otherwise I will really start lagging behind!! xxx

Impatience
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Hi @JessicaB 

Jess it so good to hear you are doing well with your treatment. 

The further away from the treatment day seems to be better for me in terms of SEs so fingers crossed that’s the same for you. 

Wishing you a good week/weekend. 

Imp xx

JessicaB
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Hi Folks, I am checking in daily to see how you are doing and think about you all during the day.  I did struggle to get on the forum for a couple of days but that glitch seems to have disappeared.

After my chemo I was on edge waiting for the side effects to rush in and floor me but so far I have been extremely lucky and been able to keep busy and by keeping occupied I don’t think about the ‘off’ feeling I have.  I am just going to ride this wave until things change.  Every day feeling OK is a blessing.  I do feel tired but have been managing to do some household tasks, a little gardening, cooking and some knitting (I am making hats for The Big Knit https://www.thebigknit.co.uk/join-in)

Although I am reasonably IT savvy I appear to have zero ability with this forum!  So, thank you to whomever’s idea it was to copy and paste the tag names, however the fact most of us are called one thing in our @ name and another in real life seems to fox my little brain so my efforts below at trying to match up what is happening with each of you may have gone awry… apologies if so.

With regard to all the follow on medications, I did wish my partner had been able to come in with me – I went straight from the discussion in to the FEC.  So I promptly forgot to tell him that the needle retracts which caused a mild panic when he did the first one (funny now… not so much then!) 

I haven’t been brave enough to do them myself yet – normally I am brave as a lion but this seems a step too far, so he has been fabulous and done it for me.

@Impatience  hope the cheek is healing.  I did this just before I started chemo and was so worried about it.  The trouble is when you bite it once it’s so easy to do it again.  I just tried to put faith in the magical healing abilities of the body but it is hard not to worry

@Louise65  Glad you are feeling more human (well this was Sunday so hoping that’s still the case)

@GonnaGetThruThis  Did you manage a workout?  It sounds as though you are coping with the early starts none the less

@hopeful1974 Hope you are a little more rested today.  I think the football affected everyone, fan or not 

@simplyeve thanks for your lovely comments

@Flower123 Hope your visit to see your granddaughter gave you a huge boost!  Loved your pictures

@Trowster Mega impressed you are getting out and about and getting your make up sorted.  I have not bothered since the day of chemo.  Did go wild and venture to Tesco on Saturday… first time in a shop for three weeks!

@Fairie  How are you doing, I know you were dreading your next session.  Sending hugs

@Heels to walking boots You seem to be getting to grips with all these stats.  I notice from post to post the information we get differs depending on where we are having our treatment.  I do have a book but no one gave me information in relation to my bloods, so I will try to remember to follow up when I go for my second cycle.

Apologies if I have forgotten anyone.

I am on my own on Friday pm, Saturday and Sunday am so hoping I will feel as OK as I am now.  Do you find you improve the further away from the chemo and medications you are?

My sister was diagnosed with cancer last October, she has now had a lumpectomy and radiotherapy so we have been travelling this road together a little.  In solidarity she is ‘Braving the Shave’ and having all her hair shaved off to raise money for Breast Cancer Now.  She is up to nearly £300 now.  Isnt that just so brave and supportive.

I think it’s time to do some ancestry.  Looking at the past might be a good distraction from the future.

Hoping you all have a manageable day

Love Jess x

 

Impatience
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@hopeful1974 

@Louise65 

@Shi 

Thank you for your advice. I know I need to relax a bit more. I’m not good at ringing for help as that’s not my nature (in my pre BC life I was the one people phoned). However I’ll start to ring more. 

My BC nurse has referred me to a service to help with the anxiety but unsure how long the waiting list is. 

Hopefully I’ll have a trouble free today and wishing you all the same. 

Imp x

hopeful1974
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@Impatience I bit my lip a couple of weeks ago and then bit it a couple more times when I was eating. I used the mouthwash I had been prescribed and it did clear up. I have a real tendency to worry and during my chemo in Feb-March, I became consumed with worrying about every little thing. It was driving me crazy so I decided to relax a bit and I have been fine. Just run anything by the nurses. I was worried about hugging my children due to Covid but then reasoned that I was more likely to pick it up when in hospital. Not hugging them was so bad for my mental health. My sister-in-law also helped to give me some perspective as she is chronically neutropenic but still managed to work throughout Covid, hugs her children etc. I hope you find your balance. xxx

Shi
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Imp ❤️ Keep vigilant, keep checking temperature and if you don’t feel right always ring rapid response number even with no temperature. Your team would rather you ring and check everything with them, than not check ❤️ You help them get you safely through chemo by being vigilant ❤️ I found keeping chart of temperature during cycles helped, it was where I wrote down when I’d taken tablets too, it just gave me bit of comfort being able to see it all in black and white rather than thinking oh what was my temperature earlier because chemo brain fog can make you bit fuzzy. Hope this helps ❤️💕💕Shi xx

Louise65
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@Impatience 

It's only natural you will worry more and as long as you now careful and using mouthwash, I'm sure all will be ok. Maybe makeup a salt water rinse as well it certainly won't do any harm. I used to get alot of utis and the slightest niggle I worried so much. 

Take a deep breath and say all will be ok. 

Sending a virtual hug.

Xxxx

Impatience
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Hi everyone

I have somehow managed to bite the inside of my cheek. I have used the oral wash and bonjela but now worried sick about infection and low neutrophils. 

Does anyone else worry like this? Anyone got good tips on how to control this worry as it is driving me insane? 

Imp x

Impatience
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Hi @GonnaGetThruThis 

Yes I did mention the chemo smell during my first cycle. I felt it was coming from my pores and the bedroom and bathroom had the same sweet sickly awful smell. Hubby said he couldn’t smell it but I reckon he was just being nice.

However like Louise said it does disappear after the first week. Like Louise I’m into my 2nd week of the 2nd cycle and feeling okay. I’ve walked 2 miles and my chemo brain has also let me do a huge pile of paperwork/admin. So all good. 

Chemo for me is the constant worry rather than the actual SEs. However I’ve always been a worry wort. 

I hope you have a good 2nd cycle. 

Wishing everyone a good week too. 

Imp x