Good morning Ruth
I've only got 2 more to go, my arm swelled to nearly double it's size and rather red and hot so it got rather painful. I have been put on antibiotics again to see if they are successful at sorting it out again. No picc line was mentioned, they are aware I really don't want to go down this route if at all possible. At the moment all my vital signs are good so it is indicating that it is only superficial however, I have been told to expect being admitted at the first sign of any deterioration, whether my vitals are good or not.
My next Onc appointment is Weds so she will be reviewing my responses to treatment then, we were supposed to be discussing my radio then but I expect it will be more about getting the last 2 cycles done. I think that's why the chemo nurses didn't mention the picc line, leaving it to the Onc instead .
Any way I'm not going to let it bother me, it's the last of my low days today so am planning to go to a dragon boat race tomorrow, 2 days out with my work colleagues next week and anything else I can fit in.
I hope your treatment goes well for you today, phew weekly chemo, that's going to take up your time but it'll be worth it in the end.
Good luck to all having treatments today - I really hope it is kind to you and for those recovering, I hope you have minimal side effects and can do all the things you want to do.
I hope you manage to keep going without the line if that’s your preference .... how many have you got left?
Ruth - So pleased to hear your lump was a reaction and not anything more sinister - not that the reaction you got was good but it must've been a relief to know that's what it was. I think this will be our 'new normal' from now on, worrying about all sorts of things - I do hope it settles down the longer we eventually stay BC free but somehow I doubt it.
I'm with you on the high maintenance theme - never spent so much on myself since having the kids, it feels a bit strange but I'm sure I'll get used to it, that's if I can keep my daughters mitts of my newly acquired stash, she's already taken a liking to some of my scarves, I suppose I should be flattered as she's way younger than me . I don't think I can quite stretch to eye lashes, they make me feel queezy but wish you luck with yours.
Mangomum - I'm not sure what they'll do about the phlebitis, it's doing strange things at the minute, the original site is now back to its normal size but this morning I've developed another lump about 2 inches further up the vein towards my elbow which is starting to go red, same symptoms as last time. I phoned the emergency line for advice, the nurse thought it was a bit strange that the swellings are happening so long after the vein was used for chemo - they used it for the first 2 cycles and used a different vein for the following 2. As we are not sure whether the swelling is going to develop further I had to draw around it and then draw around it tomorrow to compare whether it has worsened, she is contacting me tomorrow and I will have to go and have it checked by them - I can tell you I'll have to have it checked because its nearly double the size now, unless it decides to sort itself out overnight.
I suppose they will decide whether I will need a picc line or not when they evaluate it tomorrow - I'm not keen to be honest, I'd rather carry on as I am if at all possible but I'll have to wait and see. Luckily my temp and BP have remained within normal range so far throughout my treatment. I might be a little round in the middle but at least I'm a healthy round in the middle person.
Hugs and best wishes to all May ladies - we WILL get there in the end
Good morning everyone
Thank you so much for all the amazing and really interesting updates, I always learn so much. I will have a look at the smoothie it sounds packed with goodies.
Joemic- I also have really dark nail varnish, but I accidentally bought a slightly shimmery top coat (I thought it was plain) and it makes them a little less harsh. I am becoming more high maintenance than I have ever been, creams for nails, skin, varnish, scarf tying and eyebrow pencils!!! I have bought some lashes but I am a little scared of them 😧!! Enjoy you good week.
SP-I was surprised about not getting the advice re the polybalm after reading the study....for a while I wondered if it was fake, but it’s referenced on several sites (I think Macmillan and CRUK). I think the singing sound wonderful.
Mominette-I hope you are recovering well and Mangomum yours goes well.
Rose-My skin has improved a lot too...I wondered if it’s all the water I’m drinking now???
im sorry I have missed people, just taking boys to school, but sending lots of love and hugs to all 🤗
Again, sorry if everyone already knows this, but apparently it’s a common reaction to the dye they use in MRI....In the afternoon I developed a lump in my armpit, I was concerned, but it was very tender so tried to stay calm that it wasn’t ‘another one!’ And they confirmed this yesterday (phew).
Lots of love
Good to hear you are still doing amazingly well despite the phlelbitis and still have your amazing sense of humour!
My eyebrows are thining now too and my eyes feel more sensitive so I'm guessing my eyelashes maybe next 🙄.
Are you able to have a picc line put in or a portocath? I'm not sure if it is the answer as I'm not up on how EC works etc.
Fingers crossed you get through the rest of the treatment. If anyone can, you can.
Good evening lovely May ladies - well nearly midnight but evening will do, I don't think good midnight has the same ring to it
Well there has been lots of chats and posts to read and I'm pleased to see that on the whole people seem to be having more positives than negatives at the minute which is great to hear.
I've been fine the phlebitis has gone down a lot - I can touch my middle finger and thumb when I wrap it around my wrist now, whereas there was a 3/4 inch gap when it was swollen, it's still sore but is getting better everyday. The vein they used last time is getting a little sore so I'm busy massaging it like crazy in the hope it doesn't develop phlebitis, the chemo nurse thinks it will. I just hope my veins last the final 2 EC cycles. I still can't complain though as apart from some fatigue, the down mood for 3 or 4 days following my chemo and the veins I have had nothing else - I have so much admiration for you ladies who are battling much worse than I am and keep battling on.
I'm not a make up person but have been totally absorbed this past week on painting my nails, it's much harder than I thought, I think I'm getting the hang of it now. I noticed that my nails were getting a little discoloured, strangely only my thumb nails but I had read that painting them black protects them a bit - well I looked like Morticia from the Adams family - not a good look at all; so have been experimenting with stickers and different types of nail art to break the black up.
My eyebrows seem to have done a runner - well nearly, so I have been trying to learn how to use micro pens to draw them on much to my teenage daughters amusement - such a lot to learn with this chemo business.. Waiting for an appointment for the look good feel good course, which could take a couple of months which I don't mind as I will be preparing myself to be going back to work just after that so will find it more helpful as I'll know what I'm dealing with by then.
Oh my nearly lost my post then.
SP - Glad you get so much enjoyment out of singing, I unfortunately sound worse than the neighbourhood cats. It's good that you found the nutritionists session of benefit, all credit to you for paying so much attention to your diet, I'm not sure I could stomach the smoothie though but I think I'll give the sprouting seeds a go, I like all types of seeds, nuts and the like and I'm sure they'd help set me up for the rest of my chemo and radio too. Good luck with the Taxol and I really hope it's kind to you.
Sewbuddy - So pleased you have battled through the side effects and that you've had the last of the dreaded Epirubicin, it's horrible stuff. I hope you enjoyed your day pottering around, it'll have done you good and your right chores can wait, they will always be there waiting that's for sure. Good luck with the rest of your treatment plan.
Ilovehunny - I hope you had a good time with your friends, it can be quite scary venturing out during your low week - I seem to be acutely aware if people start coughing and sneezing near me, funny I never noticed before going through this. I'm sure you would have had a good time. It's great to hear the cold cap is working for you. I'm sure you will make it to Chelsea next year - I want to go to the Great Yorkshire Show, I can't do it this year as I'm in my low week - everything good seems to happen in my low week but I will be making up for it once this is over. I hope the rest of your treatment goes well and you don't get any nasty side effects.
Mangomum - I hope your Doxetaxol goes well and you don't suffer too badly from any side effects.
Mominette - I hope you come through it well too. I'm sorry the cold cap didn't work for you, it's so hard to know if things will work or not.
RuthG - Hope all went well with your MRI. I hope all goes well with your Paclitaxol this Friday - the cream sounds like good stuff, I might just have a look at that study, you never know I might find it will be better than the black nail varnish.
Rose2020 - Your eyelash story made me laugh, it's something which would happen to me, I find all this make up business difficult as it's not something I've bothered about before, so am learning much to my daughters amusement.
Good luck to all who are starting new treatments this week, scary but I'm sure you will all manage to get through it, you have so much strength. Good luck to all who are continuing treatments, I hope things go well for you all and side effects stay away. At least I've got a week on Friday to go until my next lot and I'm feeling pretty good so will hopefully enjoy the next week or so.
Take care all
Rose, you are so good to make such individual comments to everyone. I don’t think your brain is muddled at all!!! Be proud of yourself for your attention to detail!!
I am now in week 3 of my 5 week rest before Taxol starts. I am well. I can eat normally and I continue to walk 3/4 miles every day. It definitely helps me physically and mentally...so win, win!
I have taken Ruth’s advice and ordered some Polybalm. The research results with Chemo patients is impressive. I’m surprised that we haven’t been told about it by our oncology teams? I am very anxious about the possible side effects of the Taxol and want to do all I can to avoid hand and feet problems. I use cuticle balm every night on my hands and feet...and then wear silk moisturizing gloves to try to keep my nails healthy....no idea if it is helping but my hands and feet are soft!! The Polybalm will be a step up from this.
The singing is good thanks. I love the challenge and discipline of singing a cappella and the camaraderie from the ladies there is fantastic. They have been so supportive and their attitude is that they will “sing me better”. I wish it were this easy.... but I love the sentiment.
The nutrition session was good. I knew quite a lot of it but the nutritionist gave us a useful list of different ways that you could make green smoothies. The list has columns and you just pick one ingredient from each column to a create a balanced smoothie. Rose, If you are struggling to eat enough veg, smoothies are definitely the way to go! Here is the one that I’ve had the most successful with:
1 handful of spinach, 2/3 tenderstem broccoli, 1 small chunk of cucumber, 3 pineapple rings with some of the juice, cashew milk to loosen the mix. The cashew milk makes it creamy but you can add whatever fluid you prefer, even water! If you want it extra creamy add some avocado! For me, the pineapple is what makes it into a pleasant drink! Vegetable smoothies need some sweetness to make them palatable. One of these every day will boost your immune system and add antioxidants to help your body cope better with the chemo.
The other thing the nutritionist highly recommended was sprouting seeds...and I do this too!! He says that they have 50 times more nutrients than normal veg!! Wow!! I have a sprouter so have sprouting broccoli seeds on the go all the time. They are dead easy to grow and they are ready in just over 48 hours! I try to eat some every day, as they are salad like so I add them to a sandwich etc at lunch time.
Hope you all have a good week and cope with whatever challenges that are thrown at you.
Hope you are all as well as you can be.
I hope your 1st Docetaxel went ok today Mominette and that you get fewer problems than with the FEC, sorry to hear the cold capping didnt work for you but pleased you've kept your eyelashes and brows I'm hanging onto a few of each but they are looking very sparse! I have tried false eyelashes once but ended up looking like daisy the cow even with the most natural ones I could find so I might have to rethink that one!
Mangomum I hope the side effects from your last FEC are as minimal as possible this time🤞and that the 1st Doxetaxel goes ok. I'll have my first of those early August if all keeps going to plan.
Ilovehunny I have noticed the soft skin too. They mentioned dry skin and rashes as side effects of EC but I have had no skin problems just hoping it continues when I change treatments. I hope you enjoyed your night out with your friends and are managing to get in your garden. My backyard has never looked as good with all the time I've been able to spend in it!
Bannanabrain hope you are well. Thank you for the reassurance about surgery I'm already starting to worry about it even though I'm not even half way through chemo yet!! I'm glad yours went ok I'm sure we'll all have lots of questions for you when it's our turn.
Ruth good luck for your MRI results and the new weekly injections 🤞
Sewbuddy sorry to hear your last chemo took longer to recover from but hoping whatever you are having next treats you a bit kinder and also that you find something to cover your uncle fester eyes!!! There are lots of good videos on you tube about make up for chemo but they seem to concentrate on eyes/eyebrows and can be a bit tricky if you're not a regular make up user I feel a bit overdone when I've tried some of them.
SP I hope you enjoyed your singing? Did you get any tips from your nutrition session. I started off really well with eating but now find I hardly eat anything the first week after chemo then just want to eat rubbish! I'm trying to force the fruit and veg down I might start giving smoothies a go again as I'm not even getting my 5 a day at present.
Joemic, how are you? I hope your phlebitis has improved and your mood has stayed positive. I think the low moods are my worst side effect as they seem all consuming when they come but they do lift thankfully!
Debi2 your feather picture is beautiful you are very talented you have inspired me to try something artistic I've been looking at craft kits on Amazon as a start as I don't have a creative bone in my body though!
Hope anyone I've missed is well too it takes my muddled brain ages to write an even semi coherent post!
Love Rose xx
Thank you, I'll definitely ask about a surgical cap as I've come quite far and I'm managing the bold patches by wearing some quite funky hairbands. I didn't get on with my wig and I'm useless with hats and scarfs so definitely worth a try.
Hello again Mangomum
I will let you know how I get on tomorrow.
I am just about to pop 4 steroid tablets and 4 more later today!
I used to be the person that wouldn't even take a paracetamol unless it was really necessary
and now I feel like a walking pharmacy!
Be in contact soon.
Big hug from me to you
Hi just seen your post about cold cap. I have now finished chemo and from the Feb group. I cold capped all the way through and managed to keep a full head of hair. If you have bald patches you can use a theatre cap to protect your scalp. Hope this helps x
That sounds really good. Just had my 3rd round of Fec and first time I've had some pains in my toes. I think my next regime (docetaxel) is worse for this so thanks for the tip!
We are two peas in a pod! I've had my Fec reduced due to being neutropenic on my very first cycle - not sure if I will continue with a reduced dose for the docetaxel . My cold cap hurt a lot more on my last cycle due to being so thin with bold patches on top. I'm going to see how much comes out this time before deciding if it's worth using it.
Really hope the first cycle of docetaxel goes ok and I'll be watching for updates as we seem to be having similar issues 😕
Good morning all
I am just getting ready to head off for my MRI, so it’s a bit short..... but I am starting weekly Paclitaxol on Friday and doing some reading this weekend, have ordered Polybalm for fingers and toe nails, the website has a link to the study done which shows this can reduce the effects of the chemotherapies that come under this group (I think they are ‘T’).
it isn’t cheap, £41 for two tubes (including postage) but I was anxious that any effect on my toes/pain might stop me being able to get out and about. It’s like a paste that you massage into the cuticles.
I wanted to to let you know about it (although I’m sure many of you already will) in case you wanted to check it out.
Good of luck to everybody going again this week, and big hugs to those recovering.
I see you have had your last FEC too.
I start docetaxel tomorrow. I was meant to have it last week but I got an infection so it was
delayed for a week. I did contemplate stopping it all as the last FEC treatment hit me hard.
They are going to give me a lower dose of docetaxel (75mg/m2 instead of 100mg/m2).
I see you have used the cold cap too. Sadly, it hasn't worked so well for me and the top of my
head has very little hair. The last cold cap hurt as I didn't have much hair on the top of my head
so I am not going to bother with it tomorrow. To be honest I don't have too much hair left!! Another
lady who has had all her treatments did really well with it and seems to have all her hair although she
tells me it has thinned. She had the same treatments as me and used the same type of cold cap. I
don't know why it works for some and not others. So far, I still have my eyebrows and eyelashes which
helps. Good that I don't have to worry about shaving armpits anymore!
I am a bit nervous about tomorrow as a new drug but we are all in the same boat and I am sure we all
get nervous from time to time.
I've just had my last round of Fec too and had similar side effects to you with my second cycle. Touch wood I haven't had the cramps and upset tummy yet this time which like you came on almost immediately. I too have cold capped and have two bold patches on top of my head. I've got some hair bands too plus some powder top sprinkle on that is the same colour as my hair to hide the white shiny bits. It really does work.
My nurse went through the Docetaxel with me and only gave me steroids which has been increased and needs to be started the day before. I won't need the sickness drugs apparently? She said it effects the limbs and muscles more and not to be surprised if I can't move about too much for a week as it can feel like flu.
Good news the cold cap only needs to be on for 20mins after unlike the 90 mins for fec.
Fingers crossed we get through this time without too many tummy problems. Half way there now!!
Wishing everyone else well. I'm catching up with posts now so hope everyone is OK now and doing well.
I’ve been a bit quiet lately but I’ve been keeping up to date with your posts by popping on every now and then. I’m a week post my 3rd FEC and feeling a lot better this time round. My symptoms seem to come almost immediately following treatment and then I’ll have nothing for two days and then it hits my like a thunderbolt...constipation and diarrhoea (!), extreme fatigue, fuzzy head, nausea, stomach cramps and headaches. Thankfully it was short lived this time round and I was feeling semi back to normal around a week later. My next three cycles are Docetaxel and I’ve heard that the side effects can be similar but also different!
One of the only pluses I’ve found to having chemo is lovely soft skin! It could be the lack of hair or maybe it’s all those cells busily trying to rebuild themselves but it is very strange.
I too have been trying to enjoy the sun by getting out into the garden and doing a few little jobs. I know it’s a sign that I’m feeling better when I start looking on Pinterest for ideas for things I’d like to do in the garden. I had planned to go to Chelsea this year and found myself sobbing watching Rachel de Thame as she returned to Chelsea having undergone bread cancer treatment last year. I will be there next year come what may!!!
My hair seems to be responding to the cold cap and ‘touch wood’ seems to be staying in reasonably well. Although my husband and I now have matching bald spots right on the tops of our heads! Thankfully an Alice band covers it (mine-not his!). I experimented with a clip in fringe yesterday but I was nervous about going out with it as the last time I had a fringe was probably around 30 years ago!
I hope everyone’s next cycles go as well as they can. I’ve got two whole weeks till my next one and I’m planning to make the most of it. I’m seeing friends on Saturday night so looking forward to that but also a bit nervous as I’ll be right in the middle of my lowest immunity point 😕. I’ll just have to get my friends to battle the bar for my drinks! My husband is worried bless him but he’s desperate for me to have a nice night out as well as it’s been ages since I went anywhere without him.
Anyway, I’m off to have a very small red wine before bed.
Take care all.
I 💕 🍯
Hi guys, very glad to see positive results from scans etc. It is so scary waiting for results and such a relief when the news is good (although in some ways I think even when news is not as good as you'd hoped for it is still a relief to know what you're dealing with and have a plan in place 😊)
I see that a few people are having their op after chemo finishes - just to reassure you, I found my mastectomy much easier than expected. I had some minor complications resulting in an extra night in hospital but once I was home I found I didn't even need to take painkillers as there was so little pain. For anyone who is not having reconstruction, can I recommend the Flat Friends group on Facebook? It is a lovely, positive, supportive group and it is also secret so you can post there knowing it's not on show to the general public. If anyone would like to join and can't figure it out, let me know and I'll point you in the right direction 😊
Debi - just wanted to say how beautiful your artwork is. So delicate. How on earth do you get such intricate cutting done?
Wishing everyone a lovely day 😊
Good morning everyone,
What great news Debi2, that must really spur you on, I hope RuthGr you also get positive results at your scan next week. xx Debi2 I love your feather picture, very talented lady! I hope your feeling more upbeat now xx
Rose2020, this feeling low really gets you down doesn't it? - I find that harder to deal with than the physical symptoms, I am usually Mrs Positivity in everything, hopefully you're starting to feel more yourself xx
Managomum, those pins and needles drive you mad dont they?, I think I will call and discuss the possible long term effects because I now have some totally numb areas on my toes. How nice to have a family celebration to lift your spirits, and feel normal. xx
Banabrain, I'm glad FEC 3 has not been too bad for you. Happy belated birthday! - next year you will have to insist on a double celebration to make up for it! I had my first chemo the day after my birthday - My children and grandchildren bought gifts that ended up looking like a care package lol! xx
Joemic, so sorry you are going through a rough patch - phlebitis is awfully painful, I do hope it has improved. Glad you are coming through ok. xx
SP, I am so looking forward to my LGFB session, I still have not been given a date though I've heard the goody bags are impressive. Did you learn any good tips? I desperately need help with covering the awful black rings around my eyes - I look like Fester from The Adams Family! How lovely to be able to sing - that must give you great pleasure. My daughter has a lovely singing voice, but she certainly doesn't get it from me haha! xx
I was so looking forward to having my 5 days off and being able to enjoy them - my fatigue, low mood and ulcerated mouth/throat effectively used up my first three days with a sleep/painkillers/sleep monotony. Yesterday afternoon my friend took me to a little baby boutique to buy gifts for my new nieces/nephew, and I managed to stay awake all evening. This morning the sun is shining and I was awake early, the ulcers are healing and I feel like I am out of the fog at last - day 11 from chemo, this one really wiped me out. But I've had the last of the Epirubicin so Im feeling positive about the next round. I am going to spend a relaxing day pottering around in my garden -the chores can wait! or better still be done someone else haha.
Hope you can all grab every little pleasure available to lift your spirits.
love to all
I’m also really sorry to hear that you’ve been having a tough time. I hope the side effects ease this week for you.
Strangely, I’ve had fewer side effects after my 3rd EC. The lightheaded feeling was the worst but that has now gone! My stomach continues to gurgle as soon as any food or drink touches it and then my whole system “churns” as I digest it?! It’s quite a sound!! But, no sickness, so I’m not complaining!!
I’m going to a nutrition session at Maggie’s Centre this morning so I’ll post if there are any tips we don’t know about!!!
Yesterday I did the “Look good, feel better” session there and came away with an amazing goodie bag! There must be £250 worth of skin care products and makeup, all apparently donated by the companies!! All are good brands, so quite a gift!?
Tonight I’m off singing a Capella with my chorus....good to have a “normal” day as I’ve not had many of these in recent months!!
Good morning Joemic
Its lovely to hear from you, but I am really sorry you’ve had a hard time.
Sending a huge hug, and I’m sure you are out the other side for this round, and only 2 more to go (although I know at times that feels like a mountain). 🤗😘🤗
love Ruth. Xxx
Good morning everyone👋
Wonderful positive news for you lovely ladies, it's great to hear everyone is overcoming the hurdles this thing throws at us👏🏻.
I had my 4th EC last Friday, I've developed phlebitis so they were going to delay it but after a dose of antibiotics, it went ahead, some of the swelling has gone but it's still darned painful but can't complain as I've had way less side effects than some of you troupers.
I've felt the fatigue for the first time and like many of you very low in spirits, losing interest in everything, hence my lack of appearance on here but I feel my usual self this morning so taking the chance to post in case my mood drops again.
Only 2 more EC to go, looking forward to this stage of my journey to come to an end, as I am sure you are all visualising the end of this toxic part of your journeys.
Well lovely ladies, I hope everything continues to be as side effect free as possible. Good luck to those who are having treatment this week🤞crossed it goes well. We've got this.
Great news about your MRI Debi and thank you for being so reassuring about side effects I've turned into such a worrier since this all started! I think its spending so much time on my own and having too much time to think when normally I'm rushing and busy all the time! Hope peoples moods are lifting after treatments I think feeling low has been the worst thing after the last treatment for me too just hoping it starts to lift soon.
Sewbuddy I don't know how you are managing to work you must have so much willpower and determination I hope you've got some well earned holidays planned soon though.
A few people seem to be having scans at the moment 🤞for positive results for you all. My consultant said she wouldn't do another MRI until towards the end of treatment so about September but that I'd have heart scans again after EC and at the end of the full 8 cycles.
Take care everyone
Good morning everyone
RuthGr i have been having MRI scans after every two treatments, today i will be going for treatment 5/7 (Docetaxol, Herceptin and Pertuzumab) i think i will have another scan after number 6 - unless they decide to wait and do the next one after number 7 before surgery.
Bananabrain i too have got audiobooks for the days i am too tired or achey to do much. I have also picked up with my crafting - i do different pictures - i am currently doing one for my nurse team at the chemo centre for when i finally ring the chemo finished bell. Heres the type of thing i do
I too think you are all great managing to go to work, unfortunately i have been off since treatment began because i work where there are a large number of children and elderly passing through every day and i could easily pick up infection so was advised against it.
Well got to get my bag packed for chemo unit today.
that is is brilliant news Debi2, I can believe that the negative side effects are more bearable knowing it’s working.
I have an MRI on the 8th July, are we all going to be getting some sort of check at this stage? I assumed this was timed for after the 3 ECs or maybe because it’s nearly 1/2 way.
Bananabrain, I also felt quite low for the first 4/5 days after this one, and like you Mangomum I struggled with staying in doors and not being able to do anything. I did get audiobooks (I find reading hard at this point too) which did help a bit and tried the adult colouring in books, which kept my mind occupied for a while, then I was gradually ousted as my two rediscovered the joy of colouring (I had treated my self to new sharp pencil crayons which they loved!)
Sewbuddy, sorry to hear about your side effects this time and hope they are settling down now, I am so impressed you are also managing to work, and good luck with the fundraiser. 🍀
SP and Joemic, hope you are both having positive weeks and are busy enjoying yourselves.
sending lots of love to everyone good luck to those progressing this week...July already .... we are getting there 😘
My MRI showed more shrinkage, i started at 2.8cm and now i am down to 1cm. I still have 3 x docetaxel to go (next one tomorrow). At least the side effects are more bearable when i know its doing the trick.
Rose2020 don't worry too much about Docetaxel, it does come with side effects but they are doable. Everyone is different, i worried before EC but coped and i worried terribly before Docetaxel, Herceptin and Pertuzumab but i am coping, i am sure you will too. And just remember any questions about how you are feeling call your team - i certainly did and they were wonderful, totally putting my mind at rest.
Hi guys, nice to see how well everyone is doing. Looks like most of us are near or past the halfway mark which seems unbelievable! I really thought treatment would drag on but it seems to be going so quickly 😊
I haven't posted cos I don't feel like I have anything much to say! Got through my third FEC with no new side effects but I have noticed I get very down during the first week or so after treatment. I guess it's a combination of feeling rough physically and the emotional side of the whole situation. It wasn't helped this time by it being my birthday a few days after my last treatment - I usually love my birthday but this year just felt really flat and a bit sad not being able to properly celebrate 😐
Anyway, I feel like I've bounced back pretty well now and will be getting out and about in the sunshine today 😊
Love to all
Been hectic this week as it was hubby 50th and grateful to say I managed a couple of nights out this week plus a belated party for my 12 year old yesterday. Fortunately this was my good week as I had been suffering from the runs ( new symptom) during the previous two weeks!
Sewbuddy, like you I have been having lots of tingling and pins and needles in my left hand and right foot? I am also going to ask to check my heart as I'm getting irregular heart beats but not sure if they are pulpitations? I did have them when I was in hospital and ecg came back normal but this has gone on longer on this cycle and I'm worried about long term damage. I love the idea of an afternoon tea to raise money.
Debi2, also wishing all is good with your MRI this week.
Rose 2020, hopefully I will be joining the half way stage on Wednesday and the end of the Fec part of my treatment. I'll be starting Docetaxel and slightly worried about the different side effects that might bring.
RuthG, great attitude and totally agree we need different things to help us through and that is changing for me with each cycle. I have been less active due the runs and not being able to leave the house much. I started to feel very down towards the end and I'm sure it was due to being on my own more and not getting much excerise. This past week I have felt really good and have been doing normal things and been out for a couple celebrations so feel mentally so much better.
To everyone else, hope you are all doing OK and pushing on with the treatment.
I'm looking foward to Wimbledon starting and Woman's football semi final to keep my spirits up this week.
Good evening everyone,
It seems many of us had a change in the side effects with our last treatment.
SP - I'm glad you're over that awful weary feeling, You must have really needed the rest, and our bodies heal so much quicker if we can sleep through it. Thanks for the Arnica advice, I have some of that so will give it a go. Antacids were much more help to me than anti sickness, thankful for that! I really hope you get to enjoy some of your 5 week break, it will do you good mentally to recover from the EC.
Rose 2020 - nearly half way through Chemo - hope all is well with you xx
Debi2 - I hope your MRI results were favourable - fingers crossed for you xx
RuthGr - You are so right to say focus on what we can control, there is so much that is out of our control that this really is a mental battle too - any little thing that we can make our own decision on seems so important right now. I hope you are managing to enjoy plenty of walking!
My 3rd FEC went ahead on Monday, but oh boy! it knocked me for six!. My veins are all shot to pieces after my IV AB's, they managed to get a line in my wrist but I have to have a PICC line before next chemo. My symptoms have been similar to the previous two cycles but came on stronger and quicker. I managed to work 32 hours but if my manager was not on holiday I think I would have done less! Thankfully I have the next 5 days off. I am already starting to feel better - Ulcers in my throat again - are just starting to heal so eating is getting easier. Diarrhoea is under control,Fatigue was less today and I managed 8 hours at work today. I hope this means that I will have my 5 days off (booked for recovery) to actually do something I enjoy lol.
The symptom that causes me most problems though is pins and needles/tingling/numbness in my toes and feet. My toe nails have not come off but they are purple and painful. I have some numb patches on the sides and underneath my toes, and the joints ache in my toes.I have been told that I must wear open shoes and put my feet up more, and so I shall!
On a more positive note I picked up my NHS wig yesterday - I haven't worn it yet but at least I have it. It is not awfully comfortable, I really think my ears are set on too high for wigs haha they all press down on my ears and feel like they have too much room on the top of my head. My daughter and I have started planning an afternoon tea in July to raise money for BCC, so that's something nice to focus on.
Sending lots of love and positive vibes to you all, i hope the side effects are being kind - we're all well on our way now and all giving this our very best shot!
My 3rd chemo of EC last Friday is now well behind me.
This time I had a different set of side effects on my bad days. The newly prescribed antacids and anti sickness meds mostly controlled my churning stomach, which was good. However on day 5 and 6, I had extreme fatigue and dizziness (a new symptom). My BP was very low so no choice but to wait for it to pass. It was hard to move without feeling light headed. So, I mostly slept on and off for 48 hours. I’m now convinced that my body shuts down all “non essential” functions so it can deal with the toxins that are attacking it....and the best way that I can help is to rest on those bad days to let my body cope....and amazingly it does!!! My daily gratitudes include thanks to my body for coping with these drugs.
But what a difference a day makes! Yesterday I awoke and just knew that I was coming out of it. I made myself do a gentle walk and I improved as the day went on. Today I’ve walked 3 miles and have even made a green smoothie to drink!! Things are looking up!
Here’s hoping that the improvement continues, as I have a 5 week rest before the Taxol starts. Who knows, I may even start to feel normal?!
Hope you are all are coping with whatever is thrown at you and are well enough to enjoy the sunshine?
Rose2020 i still have surgery to go. I have been told it will be around Sept 10th as long as everything else go straight forward and no delays.
RuthGr i too found my 3rd EC harder than the first two, i had a bit of a do and they had to give me oxygen and lay me back! I don't think it was the EC but maybe a bit of a anxiety attack, it wasn't until the nurse was half way through that it happened - very strange. 10 mins after i was feeling better.
I am seeing consultant today for results of my MRI 🙏
Feeling more human again after Fridays’ EC, almost perversely found this one mentally harder than the other two which makes no sense as I was so positive to be getting past this.....but how much of any of this makes sense?
focussed on the 2 things I feel I can control, water and walking both of which I believe makes a big difference. Rose you are right about each one at time.
SP - I hope you are getting through yours since Friday, and your stomach has settled down and sewbuddy that you are coping well with yours.
Joemic - Are you this week?
sorry I haven’t caught up with everyone, but sending all lots of hugs, and encouragement....we will get through it, each day is one closer to completing.🤗
Thank you for the reply! It's nice to hear from someone else on a similar treatment plan - I hadn't realised there were so many different chemo regimes and side effects!
I asked today about the change of chemo -the written info they gave me in clinic said it was over 2 days but the nurse who did today's treatment said it would be just 1 long day as they all took about an hour to give and they had to leave an hour between each to watch out for reactions. Said it would be quicker the next time if I reacted ok. Great that you haven't had too many side effects with it too as on paper there looks like there are lots more than with the EC!! I am forcing down glasses of water at the moment to get rid of the red wee!!
Have you had surgery yet or is that still to come? Hope you keep feeling well.
Thanks again Rose xx
Just popped in from April thread. It sounds like yo are on a similar treatment plan to me. I had my first docetaxel, herceptin and pertuzumab on 11th and 12th June. Are you having them over 2 days?
My next one will be all on the same day 2nd July. Bones ache a little on day 3 and 4 and the back of my neck and shoulder felt tight and sore but nothing co-codamol and paracetemol didn't sort out (both recommended and prescribed by consultant). Taste buds do go but have been told they will come back. Everyone's side effects are different and hopefully you won't have any, still remember to keep drinking to help flush it through.
Hope everyone is doing ok?
Ruth and SP I hope you are still hanging in there after fridays treatments? Sewbuddy I hope your treatment went ahead yesterday and you are doing ok too?
This is the 3rd time I've tried to write this but keep getting logged out/timed out before I post it so I'll keep it shorter this attempt!
I've just got back from my 3rd EC - bit of a delay waiting for blood results but all were fine so thankfully went ahead as planned! One more EC to go in 3 weeks which will be half way then change to herceptin pertuzumab and docetaxel for the next 4 cycles before surgery. I'm really trying to just take it one cycle at a time as I know it has to be like this. I didnt realise I was this impatient!!
Heres hoping for a good week and some sunshine for everyone take care.
Love Rose 😊xx
I have coped this weekend following my EC on Friday. I was extremely weary with a delicate stomach on Saturday and didn’t sleep well. However, today I made myself go for a walk and it helped me physically and emotionally. I talk to myself as I plod and have set mindfulness gratitudes that I use to help with a positive mindset. I’m sure this sounds wacky but it helps me! I’m also on antacids to help with the churning stomach.
A friend, who is a district nurse, recommended arnica cream to rub onto painful veins so I have been using this. It seems to be helping. My consultant also said I should stretch my arm, even though this hurts, as it you need to ensure that you don’t allow the vein to shorten and affect the range of arm movement. He also advised massaging the vein to break down the inflamed, fibrous tissue which causes the cording, I’ve been doing this every day and this week my vein is improving.
I daren’t plan any trip yet. Too nervous that the schedule could slip with low neutrophil counts. I have 9 weekly lots of Taxol to get through so not sure how my white blood cells will cope! But, once I’m done with this chemo lark and in a state to enjoy it, a VERY big, luxurious treat will be planned!?
Take care of yourselves this week and I hope the side effects stay under control....
Mominette I'm glad your cut has healed at last, that must have been a worry! Yes it is my third and thankfully last FEC tomorrow then on to T for the last 3 cycles. Sorry to hear you have had it tough this time. I felt like the 2nd was worse for me, and today I cant say I feel fully recovered - I am very tired.But I still hope it goes ahead. I delayed my surgery in February by 5 weeks so that I could attend my daughters wedding in Canada - it was worth it as I have some lovely memories to keep me going. My elder daughter was rather cross with me though for putting it off. I wouldnt have missed it for the world though and the surgeon was happy for me to do it. I know what you mean about short term memory, I am carrying a little notebook around to jot things down - especially at work! Where would you like to fly off to when you finish treatment?
Has anyone else got any travel plans or special treats for end of treatment?
Joemic - its great that you have a good sense of humour - those black circles are a bugger to cover aren't they? My granddaughter had her prom this week and looked gorgeous in a beautiful yellow dress - but oh my! I looked awful in the pics I had just come out of hospital the day before and hadn't put any makeup on and the bright yellow of the dress made me look like Fester from the Adams Family lol. I hope you cope OK with 3 more EC's Epirubicin is so harsh. Im sure your light hearted attitude will carry you through.
RuthGr - I hope your weekend after chemo went well and you didnt suffer too badly. Thanks for the tip with the veins, mine were shot to pieces with my IV AB's in hospital - they avoided the last vein used for chemo, blew another completely and the one they used was from my 1st FEC and it was so painful and kept blocking. It will be fun tomorrow I think!
SP - how are you feeling after your chemo? I hope you weren't too bad and managed to enjoy the weekend x
Mangomum, hopefully your still having a good cycle (if there is such a thing?) Keep on avoiding those infections.
So here we go for another week - fingers crossed for a good one everyone!
Thank you for your reply.
This 3rd cycle (last FEC) seemed to be harder and has taken longer to feel better.
My cut healed on Friday at long last.
Where are you in terms of cycles? Is your next one the third? Is that the one you are having tomorrow?
Forgive me as my short term
memory seems to be rubbish at the moment
I bet you can't wait to see your daughter in Canada - something to look forward to.
Good evening ladies😊
It's good to hear you have or about to have your last EC's, I've still got 3 more lots to go, just hope my veins hold out that long.
Finally figured out why I had a wonky wig, it's when I wear my coat and tip my head backwards, it manages to push my wig up🙄. Thanks for the tip on headwear SP, I'm going to give them a try.
Kids are great aren't they Sewbuddy😁 at least you know she isn't worried more bossing you around😂. My youngest whose 12 is very charming - he said 'mum have you been sick'? when I said no, why? he said 'well you're black under the eyes so I thought you'd either been sick or you must just be getting old'!!!! and I thought I was getting through this relatively unscathed. It appears not😂😂.
I think i'll try the comfrey oil Ruth, my vein is still tender from the first 2 and it'll be the 2nd time they'll be using the 2nd vein- not sure where they'll try after that😐. I'm really pleased you've experienced minimal side effects this time and I hope it's the same for your next lot of chemo😊. Pleased you've found some headgear that works for you, if all else fails I'm just gonna glue something to my head like a furry piece of material😂😂😂.
The sun was nice today for a change, although to be fair we had more cloud than sun but at least we got some.
Enjoy the rest of the weekend and I hope everyone comes through it with minimal side effects😊
Good morning everyone
So pleased your treatment went ahead yesterday SP, mine too. It does feel like a milestone passed, last E&C I’m moving to Paclitaxel in 3 weeks.
Mild sickness since getting home and tired but not too bad.
I had experienced some tenderness in the vein that has been used twice so was recommended comfrey oil, which we got from Holland and Barrett, to massage in and also to stretch my arm out regularly........just in case anyone else is having something similar.
I love the wig stories, I am always worried when I scratch my head, that my whole hair moves...but have moved more to the fake fringe with bamboo hats.
Sending lots outs of love and hugs to all, wishing everyone a positive and hopefully sunny weekend 😎.
love Ruth xxxx
Good evening May ladies,
Laughter - the very best medicine of all. 100% The mental image of you in the supermarket with a wonky wig, I am sure that will be me when I get my wig lol.
So glad to hear you have had the last of the dreaded spiteful Epirubicin - my last one is Monday, I will be celebrating thats for sure.
Kelly p Hope all is going well for you.
I managed my 8 hour shift at work OK, shattered and off to bed now though!
When my two year old granddaughter saw me without a scarf on she brought it over, patted me on the head and put the scarf in my hand. I guess she prefers me with a scarf on!
wish you all lots of love and laughter (and a bit of sunshine hopefully) this weekend
Hi May Ladies
Have had a lot going on recently. Will try and send a message over the weekend.
sending everyone love and hugs
You need to try the bamboo “hats”. They don’t need tying and have permanent folds so look good around your face. You just pull them on and you’re done! Bamboo is also a super soft fabric to wear. I’ve got three in different colours! Nothing to come undone in the supermarket either!! They are great!
I’ve just had my 3rd chemo this afternoon. Another long delay but I don’t care!! It was the last of the Epirubicin! Hurray!!
It's nice to hear laughter on here, it does help with the mood doesn't it😊 I love the boldilocks Mangomum😂.
My hubbie said the hairdryer had broke, so I told him to take mine, he said he couldn't possibly, when I asked why he said 'you need it'. When I pointed out that I only had a couple of hairs to dry, he was mortified but I found it hilarious and so did the kids😂.
Me and wigs in a supermarket just don't mix🙄, this time when I was about to go to the till, my head felt strange, when I touched it I found my wig had ridden up and my forehead had suddenly grown a few inches😂, I ended up bobbing down pulling my wig back on and thought i'd got away with it until i found i couldn't get back up, an old man helped me, embarrassing or what😁. I'm not wearing it to the supermarket again😂. I need to get better at tying my scarves and quick😁.
I do hope you both stay out of hospital from now on- apart from your treatment of course. Good luck and fingers crossed the rest of your cycles are good to you🤞
Sewbuddy, you are so right re hair. I feel I gave it a go with the cold cap more to try and keep myself looking as normal for the kids as for myself. However, I now realise they are pretty resilient and see the funny side of things ( like me). My husband and I couldn't stop laughing when our nine year old (trying to be kind) said I could be boldielocks instead of goldilocks - kids lol.
Keeping out of hospital is my new battle and not having any more delays so I can get through this pronto.
Hi Mangomum, that is great news that you are doing ok.
My first and second cycles were similar timings for the symptoms but so much worse the second time around.
Like you said maybe the infection is just there and when the blood goes down it gets you?
Ahh your hair - its such an emotive thing. I had a liitle hair left but because I had shaved it, I looked like a baby chick with silly tufty bits, so I have now close shaved with a razor - a bit rough in places but looks better. - I too still have (thinning) eyebrows and eyelashes. Some people don't lose them apparently xx fingers crossed.xx
All going well so far. I'm checking my temp regularly as it was day 7 I suddenly felt very unwell so fingers crossed. I had more tummy problems this time of the embarrassing variety, which started pretty much on day 1. Other than that it's been pretty easy. Makes me realise I was probably carrying a bug all the way through last time but it didn't take hold until the bloods dropped. My hair on the other hand is a disaster! It is still there but very patchy. My kids are calling me Boldielocks 😂. It's also gone really wirey and turning grey in parts. I feel and look like an old lady :@(. On the positive I have eyebrows and eyelashes!
Hope everything is going OK for everyone else?
We are a quiet month compared to others 😂.