November 18 chemo starters

[Tbird]

Hi Ladies

thanks for asking holeinone my 3rd session has been fine, a bit spaced out and energy levels low in the after noon but we can all cope with putting feet up once in a while.  Next one will be the big T so fingers crossed.

Lou43 like you my husband doesn't understand how the slightest thing will make me burst into tears and gets mad because I can't explain it - I know it's because he feels out of control and frightened.

i am on antihistamine with my streiods so not doing too bad with the sleeping malarkey.

i hope you all manage to have a good Christmas 

Love Tbird xxx

[Hmdhelen]

Hi all,

For those of us coping with hair loss - my sister bought me a silk cap to wear in bed: https://www.amazon.co.uk/LILYSILK-Womens-Sleeing-Bonnet-Mulberry/dp/B012ER5I6M/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qi...

It's brilliant! Very comfortable, keeps my head warm (I am cold capping but have still lost lots) and keeps hair from shedding all over pillow, bedding, dressing gown etc. I've taken to wearing it round the house during the day too.

Hope everyone has the best Christmas possible, given our circumstances...

[Kateday]

Hi other than an issue sleeping maybe due to hot flushes which result in my head feeling like I have got out the shower and forgot to dry it , my reduced dose has deffiantly made a difference

I have one more EC to go then change over NYE marks the half way point then I move to T and can count down yippee
How are all you feeling I’m join the T chemo isn’t so hard xx

[Holeinone]

Hello ladies, hope we are all Christmas ready while we chemo our way through the festive season 

Tbird and Kateday, hope you are not feeling too bad after your 3rd round.

Lou43, mine is the same, he actually doesn't want me to be upset and we both burst into tears in the hospital car park after my pre chemo session, I think reality hit us at that point. I feel I have to be upbeat because I know he is actually as scared as I am.

Sals, arrgghh, the dreaded steroid insomnia, hope it passes soon and you are feeling OK after your round three.  Hats off to you for doing your own injections though, well done! Yes, can concur with the odd new hugging technique!

Anyone else getting neck cramps at night due to no hair and a cold neck? How do bald men cope? I have my little sleep cap on, I feel like wee Willie Winkie sometimes, hat, nightie and bedsocks 

I'm cracking open the non alcoholic beverages tonight, hubby finishes work for Christmas so let the festivities begin, cheers!

Keep well and keep going, November girls 

[Sals]

Hi All,
I had #3 onTuesday not been too bad until last night, have barely slept a wink- bloody steroids, trying to think I may as well get up and write some Christmas cards but can’t quite force myself!
@juzcooper, I really wasn’t feeling like this cycle either, too many other things to do and like you the thought of the next few days feeling crap is not welcoming. I change my drug for the next 3 to T with the injections every night, that will go nicely with the blood thinner injection I have to do evrty night - i’m Quite the professional at injecting now! Apparently my chemo nurse told me (when I asked) what the side effects of the next drug were she said less nausea 👍 but feel like you’be been run over by a bus 👎tell it like it is then! So if anyone is in the same boat hopefully we willbefeeling a little more human by Xmas and can celebrate the half way or being well on the way marker 🍾 . For those of you whose next cycle is too close to xmastobefeeling ok my thoughts will be with you.
Sending everyone a special hug 🤗 for xmasnot too tight to squeeze those post surgery boobs though! I go in for the sideways hug now left shoulder back so my mastectomy side doesn’t take the full force 😂😂

[Kateday]

Good evening ladies
I have a feeling tmits Christmas making us all a little emotional
Hope your all keeping well as can be
I had a better third cycle woth rediced dose and now hopefully few good days ahead
Keep strong ladies xz

[Lou43]

Hi Tbird, I hope you got a call back and you've managed to talk to someone to get some reassurance and empathy with what you're going through. I know what you mean, sometimes even with lots of people offering to support us we need the right person to talk to when we're feeling low who knows what to say. My husband drove me mad yesterday, he doesn't get it when I just burst into tears with no warning. Bless him, he's so good in many ways but us ladies know it takes one small thing to trigger those dark thoughts. Sending hugs and good vibes. xxxx

[Tbird]

Hi Lou43

sorry it is your weird tingly sensation with you nerves on your PICC line, rest assured I'm over my panic now ha ha.  I know all about nerve pain so you have my sympathy and I hope it's not too bad.  Everyone on this site is allowed to say what they want and vent if need be I just got a bit nervous.  

I had my 3rd chemo today (my PICC line will be put in for my next chemo) and a couple of women next to be had PICC lines and they are so happy they have them.  I'm just nervous cos my signature song is "if there's a wrong way to do it nobody does it like me" but I have my big girl pants on now so I'm going to smash it.

on another note I have booked for reki in January at my local nhs, so looking forward to that.

ive been so low last last few days I have loads of people to talk to but feel I don't want to upset them with my dark thoughts.  So I've phoned the breast care nurses to see if they can recommend someone to talk to.  Call went to answer phone so I'm not going to hold my breath to see if they call back (they were supposed to come and see me when I had my last stay in hotel nhs but didn't make it).

hope everyone is keeping safe and well

love Tbird xx

[harkes]

Hi Lou, although I have gone to a no3 my scalp doesn't feel as sore and so feel much better. The maggies centres are brilliant. They run all types of different classes, yoga, relaxation, counselling etc. They are also extremely peaceful places, you can talk or just sit quietly. As unlike hospital as you can get.

[Lou43]

Hope you feel better after shaving your head Harkes. Bizarrely I felt so much better and am getting used to my baldy head look now. What are others using to moisturise? I used my Simple moisturiser this morning. It does feel lovely to massage in and doesn't seem to be as sore any more.

I'll get booked into a Look Good, feel better session in the new year at Maggie's. Have heard really good things about these and not been to Maggie's before.

Hope you're feeling ok today juzcooper? Take care over the next few days and hope the side effects aren't too bad for you. xxx

[juzcooper1971]

Hi Lisa! You are absolutely right I have lost a cycle somewhere, wishful thinking 🙈😂 Hope you're feeling okay after yours on Friday. Not looking forward to the double dose today and feeling like a spoilt child and really don't want to go and feel like stamping my feet. Altho, today isn't the issue it's how I know I'm going to feel for the next 3/4 days that's getting me down. I'm going to have a word with myself and put my big girl pants on and just get on with it, no choice really. I just keep thinking it's another one under my belt 💪 Sorry for the moan and need to get over myself. Seems like it's getting to quite a few of us this time but we're allowed aren't we 😉

Take care everyone xx

[harkes]

Hi All,

Sorry to hear you have been feeling down tigerlilli, I have been the same these past few days I think it must go in cycles just like the chemo! I have decided to brave the shave and my daughter is going to do it tomorrow, Although I still have quite a bit of hair I have got big bald patches and the skin is getting dry. Daughter says she is going to go for the Annie Lennox look - mid 80's. The reason I have got upset about losing my hair is that for the biggest part of my life - 30 years I always had short hair and just before last christmas decided to grow it, it had just got to the right length for a bob when I got my diagnosis I am going for my 3rd cycle on Friday and just keep thinking half way through. Am booked on look good feel better course at my local maggie's centre in february - looking forward to the free goodies. Wishing everyone the best for christmas xxx

[Lou43]

Sorry didn't want to worry you and I'm sure it's fine for most people. It was just the weird tingly sensation I didn't like from the PICC line causing the nerves some bother which I got again when it was redressed. I think the nurse implied they'd not used the best dressing either so it felt better once it was changed. Usually PICC lines go in fine, it was just me (as usual) they had more bother with so I suspect that's why it made me feel icky about having the dressing changed. I'll get used to it I'm sure ... x

[Tbird]

Hi Tigerlill

Thanks for that I did get a bit worried when I read Lou's text that it hurt - I must have got the wrong end of the stick.

Tbird xx

[Tigerlilli]

Hi Lou, I'm an ex nurse and I used to do it all the time. It doesn't hurt at all. Tigerlilli xxx

[Tbird]

Lou43

does having the dressing changed on your PICC line hurt, I'm having one put in soon and didn't realise it couLd hurt afterwards 😱.  

Tbird xx

[Lou43]

And if any of you are Billy Connolly fans and missed the documentary on him last week, it's well worth a watch if only for those hilarious clips of him dancing naked all over the world even in the Arctic! I've stored these up to have a giggle to myself when things start to get me down again. I mentioned to the nurse the other day that it was taking my mind off the pain of changing the PICC line dressing. Her "Do you want me to talk you through what I'm doing?" Me, "No it's fine thanks, I'll look the other way and think about Billy Connolly dancing naked!"

[Lou43]

Aw really glad to hear that Tigerlilli! Will look up the sparkly pants, great idea Holeinone. My wig was slipping earlier and now realise the straps inside had loosened - no wonder it felt like it was about to blow off my head Saturday.

Has anyone been to one of the 'Look good, feel better' pampering sessions yet? I might book myself into one in January to give myself a boost, though my lovely niece wants to give me a masterclass in eyebrows. Never before have I been so interested in makeup.

Shire horse legs - ha ha love it! We're all with you on that one Tigerlilli, I'll have to try out my new Ladyshave later. x

[Holeinone]

With you on the shire horse look, I'm quite annoyed that over the years they haven't thought that ladies having to go through hair loss would really appreciate not having to shave those stubborn calf hairs, they should put something in the mix, so thoughtless 

Oh, I had wig slippage the other day, I bought a couple of those wig caps from ebay, think they were just over £1 delivered, but as I now have wisps I thought I would be OK without and just the wig. Wrong! Kept tugging at it and adjusting it all afternoon while we were out walking. Really thought at one point it was going to ping off my head and into the nearby river, where I would be left standing balder than Rab C Nesbitt on the bank, screaming!   

[Tigerlilli]

Thank you Lou43 and holeinone for your support... It really means a lot. The sparkly pants are on again and there big S on my chest is back in place. I'm thinking that the odd wobble is just b part of the whole package. I'm still finding things to laugh at, so that's a good sign... Like my wig sliding about because I'm so bald now my head's gone slippery! Wig grippers ordered : )
Massively hairy legs though, I'm going for the shire horse look ; )

[Holeinone]

Oh Tigerlilli, so sorry you are having a wobble. It's understandable, not just with our diagnosis but also all these drugs we have going through us.

I'm still so grateful for your power words earlier in the month and found these sparkly tough pants languishing on another thread (I've only borrowed them, honest!), they get handed out on the forum when ladies are down and need a bit of a lift. Not sure if they pull tummies in but they have deep pockets for us all to hang around in there with you and keep you company.

Feel free to try on in the comfort of your own home and thrust one fist skywards xxx

[Lou43]

Hi Tigerlilli,

So sorry to hear you're struggling. Keep strong, you're doing great! It's so hard dealing with others and how they want us to feel / look. My husband is very supportive but I feel like I'm trying to manage his and other's expectations constantly. I too am usually positive but can imagine coping for as long as you have and 'keeping up appearances' is exhausting. We all need to be allowed time to let our emotions out. Sending hugs. xx
Sals, I cry at slushy films all the time anyway, and remember soon after diagnosis I took the kids to see the Incredibles 2 and was weeping at that - I must have been the only one! Think I told the kids I'd got something in my eye. Polar Express set me off yesterday evening, that lovely song in the middle of it had me weeping again. x

I don't really like wearing my wig as much and my daughter actually prefers my bald head right now which is clearly not practical in this cold weather. I still can't quite believe it will stay on my head in windy weather either, so Satruday's wild weather was testing.
Take care all, let's try not to too tough on ourselves at this time of year when it's stressful enough anyway. xx

[Tigerlilli]

Hi all, I have been wobbling a bit too. I have felt so positive because I know I am doing the very best thing I can to improve my chances of survival. I have made sure that I look as normal as possible for my husband and daughter to be around. Amazingly it's them who are having a go at me! Expecting me to do what I normally do. Neither of them want to see me without a wig. I am so upset as I am trying so hard. Maybe too hard. This is my second breast cancer and its now a triple negative. I am always a positive person and love my family, but this is hard to cope with. Sorry for the wobble. Just can't stop crying at the moment. Xxx

[Sals]

Hi all, sorry to hear about the wobbles that some are having - it’s only to be expected, I haven’t been too bad but have definitely for the first time had a few ‘what if this doesn’t work’ thoughts, I haven’t voiced them to OH or any friends etc but I think it could be the Christmas season making us more emotional, and sentimental.
@Lou43 - had to wax my legs I mean really!!!
@liloc my mum has also got a cold so having to abandon her too I feel so mean and rude when I tell people I can’t see them because they have a cold
@holeinone i’m suffering with a tight chest too, I wear a fit bit which tracks my pulse and I can see my heart rate shoots up for3-4 days after chemo, I really feel like it’s my chest that suffers more than anything.
@tbird, me too for #3 on Tuesday each time it seems a bit harder to actually motivate myself to do it but this will be halfway and my stats showed that the chemo + the herceptin and hormone thaerapy take my prognosis to 95% v’s 75 if I had just left it at surgery so I guess that’s the only reminder I need to keep going
#novembergirlsv’scancer 💪
Good luck to everyone who is facing chemo this week 😘

[Lou43]

Hi ladies,

I'm back on an upward curve again after chemo 2. Apart from a really nasty reaction to the 1st and 2nd injections again (awful stomach cramps and bone pain in lower legs and pelvis) I found the other 5 ok but I changed to doing them in the morning from the evening. My oncologist / nurse / pharmacist can't explain why the first ones were so bad but this happened last time and I wonder whether it's just my body's reaction to having them again, who knows ...

I'm pleased with having gone for the PICC line, but it jangled the nerves in my hand a bit and after a week of tingling sensation in my fingers of my right hand this has now eased. The nurse was lovely who redressed and flushed it out Friday and very reassuring to keep my arm moving as normal. So if you do have one fitted and it feels a bit weird the first week, please don't worry it will ease. I got a cover and a waterproof tube thing for washing. Apart from not sleeping as well because I don't want to lie on that side, it should really help with the chemo. It just felt like a bit of an ordeal at first and there were tears.

I have the same issue with leg hair, it's just not going ... even bought a LadyShave with some money I was given for Christmas, which will now be hilarious if it all drops out tomorrow!

My husband shaved my head (he thinks he should now be a barber!) I'm now quite pleased with apart from being called 'Egghead' by the kids. I only wear the wig out, or my bamboo headscarf with a bobble hat over it, but then a variety of headscarves around the house.

Hope you're all coping ok? You're all doing amazing, we can do this ladies! xxx

[Holeinone]

Sending hugs your way Tbird, Liloc and Clarabella, think the ranting and crying will continue to come at us in waves as we continue our way through this journey but we are all in this together xxx 

I'm about 10 days post 2nd round and very achy in my chemo arm, and in certain places all over, wound site and chest in general. Not sure why and obviously paranoid about what is going on   

Taken a bit longer to get my stomach and bowels (apologies if TMI) back on track after round 2, but I really don't want more medication to sort the side effects out, not sure what to do. Keep having massive drop outs in energy this time too, think I really was on adrenaline first time around! 

Lower leg hair hanging on, what is that all about, do the decent thing and drop out like the rest of it!! 

Keep going ladies x

[Clarabella]

Don't worry Tbird, moan away.  

I was very weepy before my second and I think I will as number 3 approaches (new year's eve for me - rock'n'roll).  I was talking to my sister about it and she can be like the voice of reason at times.  She described it as being a bit like the time she went to Alton Towers and on one of the rides where you get plunged from a great height into a hole - she's scarred of heights.  The first time you don't know what to expect so you just go with it, you don't enjoy but you get on with it.  When she went on the ride a second time at her friends instance she knew what to expect and she absolutely hated it.  

For us, each time a chemo date approaches I think we get reminded of how rubbish we felt after each of the previous ones and not enough time has passed for us to have forgotten.  It's understandable that really we rather not feel rubbish thank you very much and to deliberately make ourselves feel rubbish - well who would sign up for that if they didn't have to.  

[Liloc]

Don’t worry, sweetie, think with trying to cope with all the physical side effects all the time, we put the emotional and mental strain of it all on a back burner but it’s bound to be too much sometimes. I sat under the Xmas tree in floods of tears yesterday having really morbid thoughts wondering if my husband and son would still do a tree without me. Usually I manage to squash such things back, guess it was just combined with getting nostalgic over old decorations. I immediately stopped as soon as they came in the room and of course didn’t say why I was crying. Just have to focus on that the fact that we’re being cured and this is all going to be firmly in the past by next Christmas xx

[Tbird]

Hi all

sorry to be a moaning ninny but the last two days I can't stop crying I don't know what's wrong with me.  I will be have my 3rd chemo Tuesday, I had my blood test yesterday and as they were taking my blood I burst into tears for no reason and can't seem to stop 😭😭

Tbird xx

[Liloc]

Morning all, juzcooper thanks for the note about the marker, that’s what I thought. Think other people have mentioned a sore head and spots, so part of the course with sensitive skin which isn’t used to being exposed probably. Maybe try not wearing the wig when you feel comfortable not to, which would allow your scalp some breathing time? I’ve only used mine out of the house (and haven’t been out hardly at all in the last 10 days!) as I wear soft pull-on headscarves at home. At least we have wigs for the winter season, hopefully by July when it’s hot and sweaty we won’t need them any more.
Clarabella, sorry your hair is starting to go now but as you cold capped it may reduce the amount and most of it might stay. 🤞 Mine got to the point that I was filling up toilet bowls just by running my fingers through my hair and started looking a right state so looked much better when I took it all off. I wasn’t even emotional about it by that stage, it had got too annoying. Appreciate most people treasure their hair but mine is frizz-prone and needs dying every few weeks so with my current energy levels I’m actually quite glad I don’t have to faff around with blow drying it straight every two days to look decent.
My 79 yr old mum’s come down with a bug in the night, vomiting and diarrhoea, poor thing. One of the winter stomach bugs going round. My husband was doing some errands for her and saw her twice yesterday but don’t know if you’re contagious before the symptoms start. 😷 My poor sister (who also endured a 5-hour A&E trip with me recently) has gone round to look after her but if she and her family of five catch it, Christmas could be cancelled 😳. Won’t be able to see my mum this week probably to avoid contagion which sucks. Feel guilty I can’t do anything for her as she’s been round here making me breakfast and lunch on my bad days, but can’t risk it 😟

[Clarabella]

Hi All,

Am having my first proper wobble.  Day 9 post chemo 2 and my head hair has decided that today is the day it makes a break for it.  I know I should feel lucky that until today I've really not lost any (I've cold capped both times), I just wasn't expecting it to start and for it to come out as much as it has today.  What's really confusing is that it has stopped coming out else where which has left me with some interesting topiary in places lower down!  

I had my hair cut short for me (from mid back) to a longish pixie before I started the chemo in the hope it would help.  Maybe it'll stop shedding maybe not.  Maybe I'll need to get the razors out.  Might have to get the wig purchased before Christmas.  

Ok, rant over.  Hope you lovelies are doing ok.  Deep breaths.  

[Kateday]

Hi ladies
I’m glad to read the story’s about pic line as I’m done tobhave one before my next chemo on NYE
All though not had appointment yet may ring on Monday
I’m starting to feel better after number three but now have a cold
I really hope your right about the side effects as I couldn’t possibly hack this another five times
I personally shaved to number three and then ended up with some bold patches , I decided I didn’t care and now I have coverage on all my head , not a lot and so blonde it’s laughable , didn’t shed any more after number two and even had to shave my bloody legs
I’m hoping what I have continues to grow now 😀

[Lisajayne11]

Hey Juzcooper1971

Don't want to pi@@ on your chips but I think you have lost a cycle amidst the chemo fog??? If I recall your a few days behind me so your half way through and have just finished your 2nd cycle. I did exactly the same in my diary, missed a whole  cycle out🙈

I started cycle 3 yesterday so double dose of Tax & Carb and feeling ok. Off to the panto tonight so I've given the hair piece a good old brush!  At least it only takes 5 mins to get ready these days 😄

I've noticed a few spots on my scalp. I usually get a few spots weirdly when I have my hair cut so could be something similar for me?

What lotions are people using for their scalps, advice p!ease 👍

Hey lilco, the markers are pretty much the same as the biopsy, they're just dropping something in rather than taking something out. Very quick and not painful. They'll probably do a quick mammogram as well to make sure they're in the correct place.

Hoping all you other others chemo warriors on here are coping well and are well enough to enjoy your Christmas dinner ( those on steroids probably more than those that not! 😉😄)

Take care Lisa xx

[juzcooper1971]

Hi lovely November ladies 😉 Finished cycle 3 on Tues and starting cycle 4 next Tues (I'm doing a trial so having weekly chemo for the 1st 12 weeks then 3 EC every 3 weeks)) I'm not doing too bad at the moment. Just struggling with the fatigue. I had to miss a Christmas lunch yesterday that I have been going to for years as my body was just not willing at all altho my head was, very frustrating
😕 I saw my oncologist yesterday and the good news is that neither myself or her can feel the 'tw@t' anymore, I'm chuffed to bits.

Hey Liloc - I had a marker fitted before my chemo and it's not bad at all just a bit of pressure but no pain as you have an anesthesic injection beforehand as you do with the biopsies.

My husband shaved my hair down to a number 1 last week as it was becoming very sparce. Is anyone else experiencing sore spots on your head? I get heat lumps and some are like acne spots 😕 I think it's down to irration from my wig when I get warm so having a break from it where I feel comfortable

Take care everyone xx

[pigeon]

Hi traceybev, sounds like we’re both feeling surprisingly okay nausea-wise following yesterday’s treatment (touch wood). In my case, Id usually be curled up trying not to be sick right now! Think we’ve finally found the right anti sickness cocktail for me, just in time for the last FEC 😆 That said, I still feel achy, tired, and weak - but I can cope with that for now, as long as I don’t have the nausea/sickness!

Hi Kateday, I’m booked in for the 4th Jan for the first T. I’ll be sure to let you know how it goes. My chemo nurses have said that often, if someone reacts badly to one drug (which it sounds like you and I both have, overall, with the FEC/EC), then you’ll often cope better with the T. My oncologist also said the main thing with the T is aching joints and bones, rather than nausea. We’ll see I suppose!

Tbird, I have a PICC also. I was terrified going in to have it fitted, and it really wasn’t bad at all. They numb the area on your arm where it goes in, and you can’t feel the tube going into your veins or anything like that.

It was a little tender for a week or so after, but I hardly notice it now. Do make sure you keep it dry! Honestly I’m glad I have it, it makes chemo day that much quicker, and no painful veins - one less side effect to worry about. Xx

[Liloc]

Morning all, hopefully coming the the end of my 10 days of yik and have 10 days to relax until #3 on the 27th, a bit of a reprieve for Xmas (hopefully! In the first cycle I was in A&E til 3am one night with an unidentifiable temperature spike, don’t want blips like that over Xmas). Bit envious of those of you who already have #3 under their belts, although not of feeling grim obviously. I have to do 4 EC so won’t be moving on to T until February. It’s soooooo long to think about. On Monday I have an ultrasound to see if Olga has shrunk and they’re going to put a wire marker in in case chemo has blasted her into oblivion before surgery (wouldn’t that be nice!). Have any of you done that? I’m thinking it will be like the biopsy but not sure what’s involved...?

[Tigerlilli]

Hi Pidgeon, I am glad that thought helped... I find that if I feel worse, I think that the chemo is really working hard and that it will pass. I will be having one more Fec then going onto the T for 3. Not sure what to expect with the change over, but we can do it! Chemo warriors together. Stay well. Tigerlilli xxx

[Jencat]

Hi Tbird, glad I was able to give you some reassurance about the PICC line and able to ease your worries a bit. I wouldn't say I've got a particularly high pain threshold and I found the procedure ok. I think they might have numbed the area first, I'll have to check with my daughter.

It was a bit of pain sometimes having to have it flushed weekly, but on the other hand I found it quite reassuring to be seen regularly at the chemo unit. It's useful to buy a plastic sleeve for the shower as you can't get it wet. I bought mine at Boots for about £5.

If there's anything else I can help with, just ask or you're welcome to message me xx

[Tbird]

Hi Jencat

thank you for your reply, it has helped me put my mind at ease.  I haven't got a date yet when I will be having the PICC line but it will be before 8th January as that will be the date for my 4th chemo.

its good you were able to have your daughter with you to keep you distracted, I will have to ask if I can have one of my sisters with me.

love TBird xx

[tracybev]

Hi Pigeon

I too had my last EC yesterday #3 and will be starting T+ Herceptin in the new year although have to change hospitals as my local one doesn't do T, at the moment been told they are at full capacity on the 3rd  and will have to defer it a week unless my oncologist says  otherwise...waiting to hear from her 😧 

Feeling ok today managing the nausea just have a sore  arm.

Hope you all have a good weekend xx

[Jencat]

Hi Tbird, I'm from the Oct '17 thread and just wanted to reassure you about the PICC line. I had one when I had chemo and I was really anxious about having one, but it didn't hurt when it was put in. I was allowed to have my adult daughter with me, which helped to keep me distracted. When it was removed it took no time at all and again I didn't feel anything. When are you having yours fitted? x

[Tbird]

Hi all

i will be having my third Fec next week also, although it's now only EC I'm having because of side effects.  I will be starting T in January.

My veins are so sore from the chemo so I am having a PICC line put in for the T.  I am such a wozz and am terrified of having the PICC put in, any advice ladies, does it hurt.

i am terrified of everything but am pretending to family I'm fine, I suppose a lot of you ladies are the same.

have a lovely weekend Tbird xx

[Kateday]

Hi pigeon
I just had number three on Monday however I still have one more EC to go
I will be interested to see how the side effects differ when you swap over
I had a reduced dose this time and all though o slept solid for two days and have felt sick and awful taste
I haven’t had the feeling my skin is so sore I can’t bear to be touched and I’m been up and done some cleaning today 😍

[pigeon]

Hi Ladies,

Hope you’re all doing well.

Im off for FEC round 3 this afternoon 😨 but thankfully this will be the last FEC for me, the halfway point before starting T in the new year.

Tigerlilli, I want to thank you for what you said about thinking of chemo as a friend that’s trying to cure me, I’ll hold on to this thought over the next few days when (or hopefully “if” 🤞) I’m feeling dreadful. Xxx

[Tigerlilli]

Attagirl holeinone! You can do it! It's a roller coaster, but that's another day ticked off. I'm just hoping my temp isn't creeping up : /
Trying to will it down below 37! Fingers crossed. Just settling down for another night of Christmas shopping online at 4.00am. Well there's got to be some advantages. xxx

[Holeinone]

Hi Ladies, managed to crawl my way out of chemo fog land!

Tigerlilli, thank you so much for the virtual hug, you helped lift my spirits when I was stuck down there in a pit of dispair. Although I don't wish this on anyone, it really is comforting to know that we are not alone, we can do this as many before us have done. I take on board your positive way of looking at your chemo treatment, it's a good outlook to have. Oh, and you are not alone with windy issues, I've never belched so much in my life, it's not pleasant! xx 

Sals, so very sorry you have discovered another SE that results in more meds and stays at casa NHS, hope it is all plain sailing for you from now on.

Have to agree with Po, no way could I work through this, I'm out for the count for a week after each chemo (FEC) but happily this time have not been up all night with sweats after getting the liquid intake up. Hats off to ladies working through this. I'm self employed but we are drawing on savings now as I'm not able to function and really need rest.

Clarabella, try some chewy mints through chemo, I did this by accident for round 2 and have not lost taste buds this time. Also brush tongue gently when you do teeth.

Liloc, yay, cheese on toast is a winner every time! Although I think I will be treating myself to some bags of Thorntons before Christmas as well 

Feeling a lot brighter today, hubby only has to do two more filgrastim injections and then we have semi normal time until round three just after Christmas. Managed to do some household bits and bobs today, might be up for bathroom cleaning tomorrow!

Hair, I've not shaved my head so have lots of straggly hair all over the place, still have lower leg hair but nothing on armpits or arms (jeez, sound like a gorilla!) Most of my head hair fell out in the third week of round 1 and the couple of days after round 2.   

Rumbly tummy, onco said this was due to steroids so I have less steroids and some tablets to calm tummy, and it has helped this time, no longer trying to eat the contents of the kitchen!  I'm drinking three large glasses of squash a day plus some when I wake at night (always waking at night now due to fluid intake!)

Cannot believe the chemo fog, I'm like an old woman, I dither and get confused, and ramble, which I think is what I'm doing now!

Anyone looking after their nails? I don't like nail varnish so I'm just using cuticle oils and creams twice a day and hoping. No changes so far after two rounds, I suppose the nails go on T?

Keep well lovely November ladies, we can do this!

xx

[Liloc]

Yay for the cheese on toast gang! Just had three scrumptious slices for a 5 o’ clock snack as my stomach wasn’t going to last til OH gets home to cook dinner. Took me longer to make than gobble down but used mature cheddar, added some cut up pieces of cherry tomato (some superfood to be healthy) and salt and pepper before going under the grill and I could actually taste it! Got for it (even better if you get someone to make you a couple of slices while you lie on the sofa).

[Linda Corinne]

Emily Orford Are you ok? x

[Clarabella]

Ahhhh.... so Monday was rough.  Felt like I'd got full blown flu, everything and everywhere ached and was so sensitive to touch.  I've never had proper flu and quite frankly if that what it feels like I never want it.  It felt a bit like my thighs wouldn't support my weight which was quite scary.  

I noticed someone else mention cheese on toast - post my first round that's all I wanted to eat.  Just cheddar on toast.  I've had friends offering to buy me fancy cheese boards and I'm like nope just mature cheddar.  

I'm lucky enough to live in a town where we have a branch of The Haven and I've been to see their nutritionist and she said it was likely down to the body wanting the protein, carb and fat combination.  She said go with it if that's what you want but try to eat more dark green vegetables on the better days.  

I've got my first counselling session scheduled with them next week so that will be interesting.  If anyone else has a Haven in their town I'd recommend looking them up.  

This time round my taste buds are only just coming back and it's a bit like when you've a hangover and you want to eat all the naughty food (chocolate cake, sausage sandwiches with brown or red sauce, cheese on toast).  Tea is still a no no and milk chocolate really doesn't taste like it used to.  Dark chocolate (my favourite) is more palatable than milk.  

[Tigerlilli]

Oh dear!!!!! : )