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Tamoxifen - depression & anxiety

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Re: Tamoxifen - depression & anxiety

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There are a number of herbal teas and other plant botanical treatments that can leave you calm and help to alleviate the nervous feelings associated with anxiety and anxiety disorders.

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Hi Dizzybee

before my BC diagnosis i was suffering really bad with depression and the menopause. HRT bio identicals were amazing and for 3 months back was to my normal self... Hence since my diagnosis GP recommends no HRT and citalopram. im so in a very low place... So scared to take the anti depressents but like you having to take whats only on offer to me... 

 

Do they really help??? ive been given 10mg but GP says this will be increased. How do you feel at first?? im also on Tamoxifen.

 

Thanks for any advice

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ladybird

 

I in the same way as dizzybee had anxiety periods when I first started taking it, I could cry at anything at all and was very worried a lot of the time, it did pass after about 6/8 weeks. xx

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Hi ladybird

I saw your post and just had to reply. When I started on tamoxifen  had horrendous anxiety, depression and mood swings. Was it caused by the pills, I don't know for certain because it was a really tough stage for me anyway. But it felt like a hormonal thing, like being pregnant or menopausal.

I ended up on antidepressants, which really helped. Sometimes we just need to accept whatever help is available, and if it means we can carry on taking the tablets that are protecting us, so be it.

 

Sending you a hug, I know how horrible it to feel this way, but it does pass. But it's not a failure to ask for help, this is a drug that messes with your emotions just when you're already vulnerable. Take care, and I really hope you feel better soon.

Xxx

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Hi I’ve been taking 20mg of Tomoxifen for just over a month now and wondered it’s common for it to make you feel worried,agitated and tearful I’m getting to the point that I want to stop taking it.

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I believe the pill Tamoxifin has caused me anxiety from the beginning. I read an article that suggested to take 10 Mg dosage in AM, n 10mg at night. My anxiety went away. My doctors office gave me a new prescription, so I didn’t have to cut the pills in half. So far so good. This pill can cause anxiety.....

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Hi Terri welcome to the forum ,there is lots of support and advice here from people who understand .You are most definitely not alone in dealing with life changing issues relating to side effects .Jill.
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Thank you.   I really needed to read your post tonight.  It made me feel less alone.  Thank you.

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I hope that Andymac's partner is doing well now, it is an old thread and things move on in Mental Health just like they will have in all areas of heathcare since then.

 

BND1999.  Like you i had Tamoxifen for 2 years. The se were enough on their own to cause depression, seriously misery making.  I am too scared of recurrance to stop them.  I have now been changed on to Letrazole which are not much different but i've got a further 7.1/2 years to go on them, I hope.  I am a 54 year old in a 90 year old body.

 

Many forum users take Antidepressants with good effect, some GP's prescribe Citalopram 'to help with side effects;... (that is not a criticism of GP's') they are not magicians and mine is great.    

 

Any Mental illness, whether episodic i.e. anxiety, depression or an enduring illness such as Bi Polar or Schizophrenia never have just one cause.  If you google Stress Vulnerability Model this will give lots of theories but ultimately it is always a combination and build up of things that culminate in an episode of mental illness.  That said the physical effect of medication can be significant,  the treatment we have all been through, the uncertainty of our future and the intrusion that Breast Cancer has made into our lives...... more than enough contributing factors...... And all our responses are different......

 

Sadly as BND1999 says (and it's not what we always want to hear, more hard work for us) releasing endorphins is a natural antidepressant.  Exercise, a few squares of good chocolate, sex  -  three good ways.... also there is a lot of research into Psychology in particular CBT and Mindfulness, both of which are used for depression in Secondary Care Mental Health Services, NICE guidelines recommended.   Both are accesible on the internet, Mindfulness exercises are really easy to practice, check out Headspace on the internet,  some really good books out there Danny Penman, Vidymala Birch on Mindfulness and Mind over Mood for CBT.....  

 

Wishing everbody good physical and mental health.  Butterfly x  

     

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i think its irresponsible for anyone to say hands down that a diagnosis is why someone has anxiety or depression and that in no way its related to tamoxifen....... all you can say is you havent experienced it with that medicine

 

i was on one oral cancer med before tamoxifen.... some inhibitor.. known to increase risk of osteoporis... having strong bones i wasnt worried.. i didnt get that far.. the joint pain in my wrists , ankles, feet.. made it impossible to continue

 

now im on tamoxifen and i CLEARY have anxiety and sometimes low grade depression from it..... i did not have this on the other oral medicine...... so i can compare......  and i was not anxious or depressed badly in chemo, radiation ....   

 

my heart races.. adrenalin. i wake with anxiety bad.. i can shake it off a lot of the time by mid day..  and im working with oncologists and a psychiatrist at sloan kettering who said it does effect the heart which then effects anxiety..  it may be a less percentage of people who suffer from this but it doesnt mean they don't

 

i still think your wife should seek a therapist and anti- depressants and showering and getting out of the house.. air , exercise to increase endorphins... i find it better if i get moving..   

 

good luck and i hope she feels better soon

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Hi andymac, so sorry your partner is feeling like this. I agree with the others that depression is a se of the dx - I've been on antidepressants and sleeping tablets since half way through chemo (February) and didn't start Tamoxifen til June - though I've come off it for a while to see if flushes improve.

I've recently done a 6 week Macmillan Hope course (bcc do a Moving Forward course) which has really helped to put things in perspective and discuss feelings with others some of which were dx 4 years ago, I was a newbie with a year under my belt.

I hope you find a solution soon, I too do not have the energy/will to work or do household chores, but I am taking regular exercise - yoga and meditation are really positive for mind and body.

There's an article recently on line acknowledging that 1 on 3 cancer survivors suffer from PTSD - so she's not alone and really need to talk to someone x
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It is 100% Tamoxifen. I've been put in it and it almost drove me to suicide. I'm lucky to have come off it. I now lead a very healthy alternative life. I no longer take any pharma drugs and I feel so good. There are so many natural ways to balance hormonal levels in the body - Tamoxifen is not good. Check out on YouTube " The truth about cancer " series. It will change your mind. And save your partner too. Think about this - how can a drug that has such serious side effects be good for u. Cancer is one of side effects ! Diet and juicing has changed my life. Good luck to u.
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hi , i agree with the others, i have been on tamoxifen for 2 years and yes i have taken anti depressants whilts going through treatment but then weaned myself off once i was back at work.
depression is a symptom of the dx and it is about moving on, i was a lot better when i went back to work, i was distracted and able to move on.
this must be very difficult for you and your partner, especially as she is so young.
perhaps she should see her gp and get some support.

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Hi andymac

You or your partner are welcome to call our specialist nurses on the helpline for more support and advice about where you can receive further help. The number to call is 0808 800 6000 and it's open Monday to Friday 9am-5pm and Sat 9am-2pm.

Best wishes
Lucy

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I agree, I don't necessarily think it's the Tamoxifen. I personally had no problems at all on Tamoxifen, but know of quite a few that have. However, I think what happens is when you initially find out about your breast cancer, and whatever treatment you are going to have, you basically go into fight mode, and you channel all your energies and determination into getting over the shock, dealing with the implications of it, getting used to the horrible changes in your body, and it takes all the energies and completely knocks you sideways. Then when the dust settles, it may be two or three years, or a few months later, it doesn't matter, I think that some of us, although not all, just completely all the realities of what you've been through hit you, and depression kicks in, as it can do with any traumatic shock to the body. It shoulds as if you need to get her to her GP, and see what he/she thinks. A half life is no life, and she mustn't let this shitty disease and it's after affects spoil her future, otherwise it has won.

Julie

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Hi Andymac,
I am sorry to hear about your wife. I've been on Tamoxifen since January and know several others who are on it/have been on it. I have to say I'm not convinced that the depression is anything to do with the tamoxifen. It is such an emotional overload when you are diagnosed and treated with breast cancer, that i think often people don't process the emotions until later. At that time you are in shock and everything's up in the air and you're just surviving from one hosp appt to the next, trying to get yourself to the appts and find out what's happening next. I think it is later, when life gets a bit steadier, that our feelings say 'okay i feel safe enough to make myself heard'.
Has she spoken to her GP about it? or breast care nurse? I would think they might be able to offer some medication and/or counselling to help her sort out what's troubling her. Lots of people have counselling after bc, to help them sort through all the thoughts and feelings it stirs up, and a lot of people say it really helps.
Also, is it worth asking for a review of her Tamoxifen with the oncologist, just to clarify why she is still taking it and what the benefits are?
I really hope you get some help. You can be her advocate and make sure she sees someone, as she may not have the energy or will to do it for herself.
Good luck
Jacquie

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Tamoxifen - depression & anxiety

Hi,
My partner (34) had breast cancer 4 years ago, and has been on Tamoxifen ever since. Slowly, with time, she has developed mild depression as well as increased anxiety. She stays in her pyjamas all day, can no longer work, never leaves the house, doesnt eat properly, never exercises and drinks too much alcohol.

I am starting to wonder if she should consider coming off the drug given the time she has been on it, and the fact that the things she does because of it far outweigh any benefit that the drug now gives her.

Anyone here have any experiences off this?