I'm wondering if you have any pointers to the low level details/safety sheets for the Pink Ribbon series? I'd like to pass on the details of this series to my medical tattooist as I asked her about using a more permanent ink next time around, and said I'd pass on what i'd seen mentioned in the press, but when I look this up I only get kind of vague anecdotal statements about whether it would be ok with scans. I assume as a professional she would want to see details of the metal content of each pigment.
Thank you for your lovely replies. It is fantastic that people are so helpful.
I just want to have something that looks more like me. I tried temporary tattoos and although they don’t last more than a couple of days I realised how much I missed my old self. Just glancing in the mirror was a joy - I couldn’t stop smiling!
I think we all agree it is essential to know all the pros and cons of all permanent procedures. I was somewhat taken aback a two years ago when I had to have heart scans. I learnt that my echocardiograph (heart ultrasound) was compromised by my implant which blocked the image. They had to do an MRI as well. And if MRI is compromised by the tattoo inks.. you follow my gist! Luckily my heart was fine, but who knows what the future holds.
I was a pale colour before my MXs. My elder sister has naturally faded to almost no colour. She looks okay though and I would not mind if mine faded to be like that. So fading not my main issue.
I like the artist and she is well known for areola tattoos in this are with good results (including free work for BC). I will try to get more details on pigments proposed, and if not happy look elsewhere. I could go back to prosthetics, but a permanent solution would be so much better.
Thank you delly!!! We'll get there! So as a side note, I've just checked the safety sheets of the inks/pigments. Burns have been caused by iron oxide in an MRI. The pigments cosmetic/medical tattooers use are purely Iron Oxide. (According to finishing touches who train the BCN) The tattoo inks ART artists use, only 4 of the colours have iron oxide for red and yellow amongst other pigment ingredients out of 15 areola colours. Iron oxide is deemed very safe because we have iron in our body HOWEVER with medical tattooing on clients possibly needing future MRI scans, maybe not suitable. I'm not a scientist though.... xxx
Thank you so much for your helpful, informative and valuable info on this subject.
Good to have an expert on hand, who makes it quite clear, they have a BC persons true interest and to provide long lasting results at heart, but is charity funded and not to profit their own pocket.
I applaud and respect you for your sensitive work and approach. Praise where deserved from me, darlin
Hi lovely. Unfortunately the breast cancer nurses, as amazing as they are, are not trained tattoo artists. They receive very little training with regards to scar tissue and will often cause more damage trying to implant pigment. If you did want your areola tattooed by a professional medical tattoo artist, please check out www.nippletattoos.co.uk. it is a charity offering funding for the treatment with artists uk wide who specialise in scar tissue. I'm sorry you weren't able to get the result you wanted in the past. Have you filled out our survey? https://beckybarker949192.typeform.com/to/Mde3KK we would appreciate any comments you have. I have so much respect for the NHS but also know you ladies deserve so much better when it comes to the nipple tattoos. Xxx
Hi Jellipops. So without being mega boring, this question has stumped me when I originally trained with 'medical' pigments as I couldn't understand why we couldn't use permanent tattoo ink. The truth is, ALL pigments have some metal content however they are regulated and deemed safe to be in the body. The difference between the cosmetic/medical pigments and tattoo ink is that the cosmetic pigment molecule is larger so the body will reject it over time causing it to fade. The colours in areola pigment is mainly iron oxide, a non organic safe metal. But it is magnetic so I'm not sure if the fact it's a larger molecule means it can affect the MRI. I am 80% covered in tattoos and have never had issues with MRI. There is no benefit to breast cancer survivors to have areola tattooing done with cosmetic pigment at all. Hence the survey I mentioned. We're trying to make a change. Please check out www.nippletattoos.co.uk there are permanent realistic areola tattooers UK wide who have FUNDING for this procedure so there is no cost to you. 2 sessions and you're done, no yearly top ups, no MRI issues and most importantly, no added damage to your breast. ART artists use the pink ribbon series of ink specially designed by our founder, who had a mastectomy herself. They are safe for damaged skin. Permanent makeup is very different to tattooing. Always ask for healed pictures. If they look shiny, they're scarred.
Sorry for the long reply! I hope that helps 🙂 if I can help further please let me know xx
Hi, I am five years clear since my last reconstruction op. I now want to get areola tattoos.
I was offered a 2D tattoo by my local hospital - however the 3D look do much better. So I had a consultation with a private permanent make up artist who has a very good reputation for these.
However I have a question about interaction with MRI scans that she could not fully answer.
I gather that the metal in the tattoo inks can interfere with an MRI scan. Apparently the magnetism can make the small metal particles heat up and burning has been known.
Advice of this website says:
"8. Can I have an MRI after a tattoo?
An MRI uses magnets to get images of inside the body, this can affect any metal or metal fragments in your body.
If you need an MRI tell the radiographer you have a tattoo. This is because some tattoo inks contain traces of metal. However most tattoos are safe in the scanner.
If you do feel any heat or discomfort in your tattoo area while having an MRI tell the radiographer.”
However as I have no feeling in that area how would I know to tell the radiographer?!
Apparently the NHS use ‘medical’ pigments because of this. But the private person I saw just said that her inks are approved for use and she would not be using the very darkest colours that have the most metal in them.
I don’t know if Mastectomyart has any advice on inks/pigments or if anybody else had a private tattoo - was anything said about the inks used??
Love to all you ladies xx
Hi Pawsome and Mastectomyart. Thanks for that, both.
Mastectomyart - Restorative Artist has a better ring to it, than nipple tattooist. Not that I was being at all degrading. That must be very interesting, satisfying and very rewarding work, I would think. Good luck with the survey and fighting for your cause.
Okay so I have a confession to make. I actually am a nipple tattooist. The reason I started this thread is because I am fixing NHS nipple tattoos constantly and as part of The Nipple Innovation project (a UK based charity) we are trying to change the standard of this work throughout the UK. There is NO NEED for the fading nipple at all. It's just the permanent makeup industry have somehow got the contract for training the NHS in this procedure however you have to remember nipples are not eyebrows and reconstructed breasts are damaged skin. I'm actually doing a survey to present at the oncology convention in birmingham next year as we feel there are detrimental mental health effects caused by the fading tattoo. I've had clients that's confidence was so low, their marriage has ended. If you have had this procedure done, please consider completing the short survey for us. https://beckybarker949192.typeform.com/to/Mde3KK
Check out the nipple Innovation project lovely, we are a global collective of artistic restorative artists and certified to the highest standard with extensive training in dealing with scar tissue. If you wanted a permanent realistic option for a nipple tattoo. Its funded too so theres no cost to you. Xx
And I meant to add - the procedure wasn’t painful at all. Due to the surgery I have no feeling in the skin there so didn’t even need a local. So it depends on if you have feeling in your skin as to whether it’s painful or not. My surgeon said most ladies don’t have feeling there so it normally isn’t painful x
Hi. I had mine done back in 2012. The BCN tried twice and it didn’t take. So my surgeon did it the third time. It has faded quite a bit but is still partly there. I think I remember them saying some people’s skin just seems to take to it better than others. I guess you won’t know until you give it a try x
Hi Mastectomyart and Bluebelltime,
I'm glad someone's brought up this question, as I shall have it to face myself sometime.
I read various other previous posts, some time ago, (check other prev Forum posts for), about some peoples Nip Tatts (sorry!!) "fading", and having to have them re-done. And others not. I'd prefer to know how to avoid the former/difference, as, who on earth, would want to have to repeat the procedure? I certainly wouldn't want to repeat the discomfort of!
Is there some qualification/government on such?? Does anyone know??
On an amusing note, though, what an interesting answer to: What's your line of work? - I'm a Nipple Tattooist!! Certainly very different!
Hi, No need to assume they fade. I had mine done by an NHS BCN nearly 2 years ago. It is excellent and has not faded to any degree, if it does I can have a "top up".
Hi everyone. I'm wondering if anyone has had areola tattooing done? If so I have a few questions I would like to ask. The main one being, if you had the procedure done on the NHS, how did you feel once the nipple faded? I imagine it to be a bit heart breaking! Thank you in advance.