sadly, there are so many of us; surgeons need to refresh the notes and he may well have have forgotten until he saw the notes.
i have several bone mets in pelvis, spine and ribs...never had a biopsy of those as it's assumed that the cause is from my bc. The other thing is that to my knowledge the treatment for bone mets tends to be that same for most of us...either denusomab subcutaneously or a biphosphonate such as zometa by I/v once a month.
'these drugs are pretty effective re helping heal over time....if you get put on one..arrange for a full dental check up and clean beforehand, as dental extractions can cause side effects once you are on these drugs.
radiotherapy is usually only given for pain, if required.
oh and the MDT do meet and suggest the ideal treatment plan, for each of us, so that might explain his caution - he likely wants to see that before proceeding...try not to worry.
best wishes and keep in touch,
Yes, well done Maria,
i was was booked for whole body MRI yesterday and suddenly recalled it was a head first event and for an hour...I hadn't slept much the night before as I kept thinking what if my fulvestrant hadn't worked? So I rang the oncs pa and they arranged a sedative for me as I was thinking lack of sleep might make me jittery!
actually after the sedative I got into the scanner and was lying there clutching my buzzer and I suddenly realised how very comfortable and contented I felt...snug as a bug in a rug..I think is the expression....! I actually enjoyed the experience.....
i knew I wasn't to move...and I fell asleep at one point and dreamt I should hand our cakes to people...my hand twitched which woke me up....so I made sure I stayed awake after that!
sadly my results have to wait till next Wednesday, but have managed to stand back until then xx
Well done you! Sometimes the bloomin scan experience is worse than the anticipation of results! Anyway it sounds like they have a plan in place for you which is great. When it comes to rads for secondaries, which is normally for bonesrather than other mets, it is a very short period of treatment, usually a few days to zap the area causing problems, and nothing like the length of time you have with rads after a primary. Although I’ve not had them myself for bone mets I’ve read, over the years, of many ladies having them. It seems there can be a flare up in the site itself for a few days (week or so?) afterwards but then things settle down and the pain, in most cases goes. As far as I know rads will actually kill the little uggers , It’s the only treatment that actually does kill the cancer cells but unfortunately we can’t have our whole body radiated as it would kill us!
I was told I had a bone met in my sternum in October after a repeat CT scan, but the onc wanted me to finish 8 rounds of chemo and repeat the scan before deciding on treatment/management.
Saw the surgeon yesterday, who seemed surprised when I mentioned the spread to him, and asked if I’d had a biopsy. Has anyone had a bone biopsy? He wants a MDT to determine a plan BEFORE he does surgery and wouldn’t really discuss what surgery to do. And didn’t seem interested in booking a scan. Has the secondary diagnosis changed his opinion of what the best surgical option should be?
Feel confused and all at sea. Thought I knew what the plan was, but not any more! Any advice? Thanks xx
Maria, Glad your MRI experience was better than you expected! I had a tumor in my brohncus zapped. I had cohesiveness when swallowing bc of the area they were doing. There is no problem while getting it. Before hand you have to go and they get you set up exactly where they are going to zap you at. They tattoo small dots on you so they can line you up each time to get the exact area. FF
Hi Ladies, thank you so much for all of your good wishes and hand holding. I saw the onc in charge of the chemo ward before I had my scan and she gave me a relaxant and went and spoke to the radiologist to warn them I was nervous. I did it, I managed the whole thing while listening to Ed Sheeran piped through the head phones. Results today too, the lesion on the spine is not the problem they thought but they found some mets up in my neck and at the base of my skull. I have had terrible pain there but stupidly put it down to an old whiplash injury (stupid or wishful). Anyway, it's steroids for me and then an appointment next week to arrange radiotherapy on the area concerned. Is radiotherapy awful ? But most importantly can it kick the uggers into shape ? You have all helped me so much last night and today - big huge hugs and thanks xxxx
Hi Maria Louise
I won’t lie, an MRI is a noisy scan that can take quite a while, by that I mean 30-40 mins. If you hate confined spaces make sure they know, you may be able to tilt your head out so you can see outside of the ‘tube’. You will get a panic button that you can press if you need to but I suppose they still have to complete the scan. It is a very detailed scan so picks up much smaller lesions than say a CT does although doesn’t give you the dose of radiation that a CT does. I can’t remember where you mets are but if they now think you have bone mets there are still plenty of options for you, including other hormones such as anastrozole and letrozole (as well as fulvestrant if you can get it in a trial situation as NICE haven’t approved it). Also there is capecitabine, which is a tablet form of chemo and pretty do-able especially if the dose is tweaked to give few side effects. There are also the other IV chemistry which I’m sure you don’t want to have, none of us do, but can be quite do-able as well.
I hope you get some definite answers after your scan, and that it is not too scary for you. You know we are here to help so ask away once you know what your oncologist is suggesting.
ps editted when I saw how the corrective text had written 'fulvestrant' - which I have now corrected as it did not make any sense!
Hi Maria Louise, I just had an MRI scan of my back. I'm OK with any type of scan as long as it isn't hurting me! My MRI took an hour. I don't know why but first the scan was done without contrast and then with. We were trying to find why I was in so much pain, bc a x-Ray and CT said nothing wrong. They can give you sedation and they can play music. I shut my eyes and day dream and actually fell asleep. I think I've been conditioned to banging! Hubby was a carpenter and son played the drums. Try not to worry! It It is wonderful that they want to jump right on it! I don't know if you have had chemo, but I had less problems on chemo than the hormonal letrozole. Wishing you the best. FF
Hi Bon, scan is tomorrow at 10.30, I will pull myself together, I need to get this spine met kicked into touch. Thanks ladies so very much xxx
Hi Maria Louise
Having to contemplate an MRI scan so soon after an alert about your spine must be hard. I think I'm right in saying that an MRI will give more detail and information than other kinds of scan and doesn't give you a dose of radiation so is worth the hassle. I've had 3 on my head. It is quite noisy. I find it best to shut my eyes and and try and breath smoothly and regularly and concentate on each breath. They do several different scans which last 2 or 3 minutes each and the noise varies with each one. I haven't found it too bad myself but everyone is different and responds differently to things.
Don't know when your scan is but if you tell us we'll be thinking about you.
Thank you so much Mojan and Paula, I know on a scale of things to worry about with this cancer rubbish a scan that will help me is quite low down on things to worry about but I am so scared. Also fed up that it's spread ! Life on the hormones was so much easier and normal than the chemo option. I have had tamoxifen and now on Exemestane so I am guessing there are no more hormone options. Xx
i have had mris every w or 3 months for the past 4 years now.
initially, I was very worried and asked my gp for a sedative...you have to tell the radiologist in advance if you are planning to do this....anyway, I have found that it really is not that bad at all, yes it's noisy, but the earphones help. Also they can fit a mirror onto your chest while allows you to see the outside..if you want. Also, I found that for my liver and bone mets mris, my head wasn't very far into the scanner.
hope that helps
Won't lie, an MRI was not my fave experience, just very, very loud and a bit confined. However they give you headphones for the noise and just keep your eyes firmly shut. all over in 15-20 minutes. I think, like a lot of things, the anticipation was worse than reality. Hey i got though it without crying so low down on my list of things I hate about having cancer.
WRT bone mets, I have several inc spine, plus organs and lymph nodes. I take Capecitabine chemo and Denusomab injections for my bones with Adcal tablets. Both very doable, no IV and they've kept me stable and symptom free for over 2 years. I believe bone mets are usually slow growing anyway.
Best of luck, put you big girl pants on (literally and figuratively) and I'm sure yu'll be fine.
quick update .. I have an appt tomorrow morning with onc, They want to give me an mri scan and I am terrified, I am so panicked by confined spaces. Is an mri scan really bad, I just don't know what to expect. Also can they treat mets on the spine ? Xx
I am hoping someone can offer me some advice etc ....
I had a scan on Saturday and this afternoon have received a phone call from ONC to say that need me to go back to the hospital to have another scan as they have found something on my Spine, half way down and they don't want to wait until my ONC appointment next week before starting to treat it. They mentioned steroids .... can anyone shed any light on this from experience ? I have no pain.
Thank you for listening, I am feeling very frightened this afternoon and a bit shocked.
Yes, warm thoughts for those we have lost in 2017, and hopefully a fresh start for everyone in the new 2018. Best wishes to all!!
Hello ladies ..happy new year but I thought it would be nice to light a candle to all the brave ladies we have lost this year .
Bitter cold here. Down in the teens and 4 inches of white fluff. 1:00 in the afternoon and I'm still in my PJ's with a cup of hot chocolate!
Well done, ff! So pleased to hear you are on the mend. But you are also wise to just take care for now. It's still eraly days. The magic 6 weeks have not passed yet!
OH Carolyn, If I could get new carpet or hard wood floors I would venture out!! Not in my budget, though! Sigh!
Welcome Buddy Fan! Hope you arrive soon. FF
Glad your back treatment seems to have been successful. Your new year sounds busy - hope your results and news are good. Not to long now till you become a grandmom. Lucky baby to have a granny like you.
Violent thunderstorm raging overhead!
Don't worry no intentions of over doing it. I either go to work or Dr visits. Then I lounge around in my PJ's with a big over sized hooded sweat shirt over them and an electric throw. Every now and then I pick up some things and dust. I'm not allowed to bend, twist, stretch or lift and I'm not! Hubby won't let me either. I hope I don't ever break another vertbae. I didn't hit any sales either. No gitty-up and go left in this girl.