Hi KathNic, I was diagnosed SBC in Aug 2018. MY first scan was quite scary". Shadow in heart, 1.5 cm leison in lung, "a dot on x-ray, 1.5 cm desruptive tissue on both vertex" on sternum, 2 leisons on abdominal linings, 2 nodules in liver. The radiologist commented the ones on sternum and lung should be cancerous. However my tumor marker showed 27 (normal range <30, had been close to 0 after all my primary treatments). My 1st onco said the one on heart should not be cancerous as breast cancer cell can't grow in heart. One of the leisons on my liver were found at my 1st diagnosis 7 years ago and were confirmed non cancerous after MRI. She said my cancer was everywhere and she picked the one on sternum for biopsy and confirmed MBC triple positive. 4 cycles of taxol+H+P blasted off (made disappear) the leison(s) in heart, lung, abdominal linings, barely seen dot on sternum. Since then Tumor marker dropped to around 13-15. The latest bone scan in June last year showed the spot on sternum was healing and about one tenth in length was highlighted. The liver ones remain suspicious. On those CT scans afterwards, one radiologist interpreted them as cancerous, other radiologists not sure. My current onco said they are benign. She does not offer MRI but said will closely monitor. No change in treatment H+P unless increase in size and/or increase in number. My current onco once said my CT scan was "clear" 😀
Not sure if it had helped, I refer to below link for my diet during treatment.
Ive just found this thread and am hoping for some advice.
I was diagnosed straight to secondary in May 2020. I had a 27mm lump, extensive lymph nodes and mets to 2 places in spine. Im triple positive.
I'm mid way through my 6 cycles of herceptain, pertuzumab and docetaxel. I recently had an ultrasound to check progress. My lump had gone to 5mm.
I was just wondering if anyone else has had a similar diagnosis and how you are doing? Did you have surgery?
I'm REALLY struggling with the diagnosis and continue to have negative thoughts even though I have a counsellor. Im part of Facebook groups and have made some friends from this. I dont ever think I will get back to normal. Im praying that I get to NEAD/NED ... but know that this result doesn't last forever.
Hi Gillyflower and Daylightdancer. Many thanks for your responses. It is true that I shouldn't worry until I get the results, but it's hard, isn't it? Pain is definitely not from osteoporosis as had a DEXA scan as well the other week and my bones are strong - apparently nearly 0% chance of breaking a hip in 10 years. I did wonder wryly to myself whether I would still be alive in 10 years time! The bone biopsy was to take a sample of a lesion that is between my lungs which is not giving me any trouble - it is my leg and ribs that are the problem . I had to lie on the CT scanner whilst they moved the needle in, avoiding my heart and arteries and then re-scanning quite a few timesto see if they had the right place. It is quite marvellous what they can do, isn't it? Results in 7-10 days. The consultant did mention radiotherapy for pain relief, and I've heard it works, but does it make the pain worse initially, as I have heard it can do? I will definitely try your ideas of acupuncture and hypnotherapy. Best of luck to you both xxx
Sorry yhst you are sufffering with baxk pain i hsd baxk ache for two years before diagnossis. When in hospital of week of sdmissjon my sister who is aa consultant asked if the palative consultant could be involved and he sorted pain out bsck then this time last year was on 60mg twice a day slow release morphine 250mg pre gablin oral morphine if needed snd paracetamol. I was walking with a frame since then ive jsf radiotherapy on my lumber thorasic skull neck snd femur. Im now on 20mg i reduced not only . Radiotherapy but as i hsd crushed vertebrae they carried out kyro plasty. I walk with a stick now for distanced back then like said frame not very far now 5km day eith stick still need be cautious bending doen puttong things in draws making my bed can all trigger my baxk off. Hopefully if you get some wupoirt meds sorted will helo you xxxxx
I'm so sorry to hear about all your pain and possible mets, reaching out to send you hugs xx The waiting for results / outcome is always the hardest and worst part.
Don't presume anything until you get your results. I have extensive mets in my spine, ribs and pelvis and had incredible pain and back spasms a few months ago. I couldn't walk I was in so much pain. I was panicking thinking the cancer must be growing extensively!
It turned out I had osteoporosis as a result of all the cancer treatment...which had led to two small compression fractures in my spine. The mets were actually healing otherwise!
I was referred to a palliative care nurse who sorted out my pain relief for me. I was on low dose, slow release morphine twice a day combined with paracetamol and liquid morphine (Oramorph) for topping up. I've been told radiotherapy and cancer treatment do help with the pain from mets.
Alternative therapy is also something you could try - I've read that both acupuncture and hypnotherapy are proven to have good results for pain relief, particularly in cancer patients. I have had both. The hypnotherapy surprised me immensely and I had really good results, so I now advocate it at every opportunity. I paid privately for the acupuncture and had good results with it but I thinked the hypnotherapy worked better for me. The hypnotherapy was offered to me through my local hospice and so was free. There are also plenty of "do it yourself" guides on the internet and Youtube for hypnotherapy pain relief, as apparently "hypnobirthing" has become a pretty big thing in recent years.
Good luck with your results and next appointment xxx
Hello. I had breast cancer in 2011, Have been fine, but was rushed to hospital in great pain a month ago. After CT, bone scans and a colonoscopy they found a lot of hot spots in the ribs, (front and back), sternum (which apparently is in a mess), and right hip/leg. It's likely to be bone mets I guess. I have a bone biopsy tomorrow. I am on Fentanyl patches and paracetamol, but they don't work for long. The pain I am in overcomes my fear of the cancer returning. I was wondering if any ladies out there are on pain relief that works, and does the pain go away once treatment starts?
Hi there, I’ve just been reading through old posts & see you were/are on Eribulin. How’s it going?
Hey guys how are you in this horrible weather today? At least we are not tempted to go out:) Due to the current Covid 19 situation I decided to stop my chemo of Docetaxolafter the 6th cycle so I am on nothing at the moment util they decide what pills to give me. While I was on chemo I only lost part of my hair on the top of my head and around the ears thanks to the scalp cooling. I had my last cycle on 6.03 and now is 28.04 my hairs is still falling when I am combing it. When is it going to stop????
Just dropping in to say Hi. Been ages since I was on the forum sorry - just not enough time, I have been busy with work and fun stuff, even with the lockdown!
I was dx with secondaries March last year, was on Abembaciclib, letrozole and denosumab. Excellent response - complete remission after 6 months. 6 months later and I have recurrence in my pectoral muscle (I had a lump there last year - that was how they picked it up in my annual check-up). All three spots in my bones still looking good. Changed treatment yesterday to Fulvestrant but staying on the abemaciclib.
Trying not to feel to negative but its hard when you thought things were going well. I even started to dream I might make retirement one day. Now it is back to fretting about whether this treatment will even work. I know my NEAD status was always fragile and temporary, but this really brought it home.
And I can't even go visit my family or anything with this virus going on 😞
oh well I know I am still doing well all things considered there are a lot of people who have things much worse than me. Thinking of you all today.
Just throwing out a message to ask how you are, if you drop by here. I don’t come to the threads much any more. Won’t say why here. I suppose I should try sending you a PM and may try later. I’ve got out of the BCC habit! But I might give that a go this evening. We all have plenty of time on our hands now, so no excuses! But hoping you are ok. I’m still here!
Hello ladies , Yorkie1 - just reading your post - have you had tests to rule out other Metabolic bone disorders like hypophophatasia if your Consultant is confused by your results and lack of symptoms ? I don't want to give you false hope but sometimes it can be quite complex to ascertain that mets are what is being observed on scans may be worth asking - it's a simple blood test (ALP ) to rule it out .
I had a single met at L2 which caused a fracture so had to have surgery to pin it and shore up my spine. I am ER PR plus HER2 minus. I then had stereotactic radiotherapy to my spine (three sessions) and since October have been on Abemaciclib, Fulvestrant and Denosunab. Recovery from surgery has been the toughest part and after an initial hiccup on Ribociclib which made me sick a lot I was switched to Abemaciclib. The only problems I have with the meds is diarrhoea and upset stomachs and I have to be careful what I eat but apart from that I am fine. My recent scans were stable. It is surprising how quickly you get used to it all and can carry on more or less as normal. Initially there were loads of hospital appointments which was really exhausting but now I only go once a month. I struggled a lot at first and I used to sit on the sofa and cry a lot but gradually I started to feel better. Good luck with your treatment plan xx
To yorkie, hi I am at the worst bit this week , worried losing my mind basically. See oncologist Friday . Have a,lesion on pelvis I previously had secondary bc with lung mets all shrunk now and scan results excellent. Reading about your experience and others does take the edge off. How do we stop this terrible worrying , but deep down we must be much stronger than we think. Wishing you well , I am hopeless at doing posts on here so what I write is often incoherent.
Thanks to everyone for their replies and support. I find this forum a huge comfort.
I go to the hospital on Thursday ( all being well) to discuss my treatment plan. My Oncologist admitted he was a little confused as my bloods are all normal, tumour markers included and I have no symptoms whatsoever despite the extensive mets and significant bone damage.
In terms of my appt on Thursday, are there some specific questions I should be asking? I'm ER/PR positive but HER negative. My primary was removed by single mastectomy in Feb.
Thanks as always for your advice xx
I’ve also been told that I have “extensive but moderate” bone mets (whatever that means) which were only diagnosed 5 weeks ago.
Like you I was very very scared to start with but I’ve now begun treatment and have got my head around this “new” me. I can now talk about it without bursting into tears and I am able to laugh and feel happy. I figure it might not be the life I would have chosen but it’s the only one I’ve got. I have also found this forum to be a massive support - if only to realise you’re not alone.
I hope you can start treatment soon.
Daffodil 🌼 xxx
Sorry to.hear about your pain..I kept going back.to.the gp ..the pain was similar to bad arthritis in my case. So gp arranged the scan which is.where they saw the lesion.. Keep going to.gp...
I had breast cancer and a mastectomy of my right breast last year. It was HR poss 8/8. No apparent spread to lymph nodes, so no chemo etc.
I've had a really sore aching right leg for a few months, I mentioned it my consultant and he said he thought it was mechanical rather mets but if it persisted he'd send me for a bone scan.
I've since had a mamoplasty on my left breast last week and due to see consultant again next week.
I still have the pain, my leg feels weak and it's bad when I'm in bed at night as well, so not just when I put weight on it.
I know it might be hard to describe, but can you tell me what your leg pain was like and how you managed to get scanned?
Oh biker I’m so sorry, although if they think your heart is suffering then it was for the best. I had a dodgy ecg last week it was 456 which is only 6 over but it’s still worried me. I’m nearly at the end of my first cycle of treatment so I will have my 7 day break soon. There will be treatment options for you so please don’t think there won’t be xx
I originally had breast cancer her pos 3 with lung mets , to cut short I was on kadcyla and was working very well, unfortunately it affected my heart function so they stopped treatment . This was away back in August but scans always came back with no more growth. Had an aching leg the had a scan the they discovered the lesion. I keep saying was,that because I have been off treatment. A nightmare just trying to process all this. Thank you for listening feeling so out on a limb.
sorry to hear about your diagnoses it totally sucks, I’m only about 6 weeks post diagnoses and feeling pretty crap most days but the girls on here will keep you going and are all so supportive and have positive stories. What’s your diagnosis? Sending you a big hug xx
Just found out I have a lesion on my pelvis so to read some positivity helps regarding treatments. See oncologist this Friday so hope to feel better to hear there will treatments available. Totally lost the plot thinking the worst.
do mind me asking your diagnoses and treatment plan? I was only diagnosed with spine mets about 6 weeks ago and I’m still struggling xx
Hi Yorkie 1 I am sorry about your bad news but please remember there are lots of treatments for bone mets which can keep us going for a good number of years. It is a horrible shock but hang in there and we are here for you
im so sorry about your diagnoses it’s allot to get your head around. I’m still not dealing with it well either, I’ve been told it does get easier with time and I’m hoping this is true. What is your treatment plan? Sending you a huge hug xx
Just had the results of my PET scan and its shown extensive mets throughout my skeleton.
Feeling so scared
Oohh that is a lot of jabs in one day lollipop!! I’m off for the dreaded zoladex shortly!
were you advised to have a pneumonia jab?
I had my fluvestrant jabs yesterday and also my zoladex and an pneumonia jab!! Feeling pretty crappy today so it’s a sofa day for me. I think that’s to much in one day but hay ho. Hope your jabs go well xx
Thank you for your reply. I feel much better today. What a roller coaster it all is. I'm desperate to stay well. My daughter is expecting her second baby in September and for me my girls and grandaughter are my world. My husband has always said he knows he comes last 😂. Hopefully the bone pain is the Meds. Off for my fulvestant jabs in a bit. At least when that hurts we know why. Lots of love jennie xx
Hi Jennie, I’ve just finished my first cycle of Ribociclib, my mets are in hips, ribs and spine and recent progression to liver hence the reason for these new meds.
I haven’t had bone pain for a good while now but this week I have had lower back pain which mainly only comes through the night for some reason?? It does say on the side effects of Fulvestrant and Ribociclib bone pain so I’m thinking (hoping) it is down to the meds so I’m not particularly stressed about it but I will mention it next week when I see onc for next cycle.
Also she told me that the guide lines for Ribociclib are, ECG and bloods done fortnightly every 2 weeks for the first 6 weeks then bloods monthly and no need for ECG. My bloods 2 weeks ago were low but not too low that I had to stop but but a few weeks before that they were and had to have a week break, ECGs have been fine though,
hugs J xx
Hi lollipop. I haven't had Ecgs for ages. I just have my bloods checked and thankfully up to now all good. Hope the onchologist sorts it out and you can continue with meds. I'm happy with the meds and just want to know that they are working. It's a worry that I'm having this discomfort at the min though. Lots of love xx
Started second cycle on monday. Do you not get hair on brush and thin hairs falling on wash hair days? I find i do
My pain is on my left side which is the opposite side to my pleural effusion. I’m guessing that the rib or surrounding tissue must be inflamed which is why the steroids eased the pain (although what do I know?).
Hope your next scan allays some of your fears xxx
i saw on your last post that your also on ribociclib and fluvestrant jabs, I started my treatment nearly 2 weeks ago and had an initial ecg which was fine. I had another yesterday and it was 458, the nurse said they like it to be 450 or under so I’m borderline! She’s sent it off along with my bloods for the oncologist to look at to see if he thinks the ecg is ok and also my bloods. Have you had an ecg that’s slightly off? It’s really panicked me as I’m only new on these drugs xx
Hi yes I've been feeling some discomfort in my right ribs. Not pain exactly. My mets are liver and lung too with a hot spot in my lower spine. I'm on ribiciclib and fulvestant plus bone strengtheners each month. The discomfort comes and goes. I sleep well but knowing it's neareally my liver is a worry. I had a bone scan in November and a ct in January. My next scan is at the end of the month. Hope you feel better soon. I hate this disease xx
I’m after a bit of advice please.
I was diagnosed with mets in my bones, liver and lungs at the beginning of February. The reason I initially went to the GP was due to a pain in the lower left ribs (on the opposite side to the original diagnosis in 2010) and breathlessness.
The breathlessness was the result of a pleural effusion which has since been drained and seems to be ok but the rib pain is still present.
I started treatment 2 weeks ago (Docetaxel, Herceptin and Perjeta) and as soon as I started the steroids the rib pain got much better, however over the last 3 days it has been getting steadily worse again.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so did treatment ease the pain at all in the long term? The Oncologist has suggested they might give me bone strengthers as well but I don’t know if this will also ease the pain.
Best Wishes xxx
sorry you’ve had a bad day I have lots of those to unfortunately. Do you have good friends and family around you to help? I’ve had a rubbish day with one thing or another and I’m feeling very fed up. Let’s hope tomorrow is better for both of us. Massive hug xxx
I completely understand how you feel.
I'm 32 and a single mum of one. I've had an up and down day today. Feeling ok and then a few tears which isn't like me. I'm normally not a crier at all!
Tomorrow will be better x
I had no symptoms at all and I still don’t now, they are fairly small lesions, it was picked up by chance on my first ct scan i had after I got my breast cancer diagnoses but they couldn’t confirm it as it was so small. I had 4 rounds of ec chemo and then had a scan and unfortunately the chemo highlighted the bone mets 😢 and more have shown up. It’s a rubbish hand we’ve been dealt. I’m only 35 with 2 boys of 10 and 14, I’m also a single parent xx
That's good to know about ER+ thanks! Also great that you haven't had any side effects, really positive. Did you have lots of back pain before your diagnosis?
I should find out next Thursday the 19th hopefully. X
same as me but I’m grade 2..lots of treatment options for er+ ☺️ I’m on a combination of things I just hope they are working!! I’ve had zero side effects so far which is good, I know what you mean about bad news as I’ve had the same as you. Every appointment I’ve had I’ve been told bad news I just shut down and go into a daze if I’m honest, then come home and cry. When will you find out your treatment plan? Xx
Thanks for your reply and hug 🙂
My cancer is breast cancer grade 3 ER positive but HER negative from what I can remember. Most of my appts have been a blur as I've recieved bad news at every one.
There's lots of positive stories on here so I'm trying to focus on what treatment they can give and moving forward. I think speaking to people who are going through the same thing/feelings/emotions is really important.
firstly I’m sorry about your diagnoses and I can totally relate to how you feel, I am now 5 weeks on from secondary diagnoses and still struggling allot. I also have spine mets in a few places. What type of cancer do you have? I have been taken off chemo and put on hormone suppressant tablets and injections as my cancer feeds off oestrogen so the treatment I’m on halts that and the hope is to contain it. Sending you a big hug i feel you’re pain I really do xx