Wow, your history has given me hope that you are surviving SBC for so long. I have extensive mets to lungs, liver, several lymph nodes and bones. Unusually (I think) I had the lung and liver tumours 1st and then bones a few months later.
We are all different, I seem to be doing your treatment in reverse! After Tamoxifen for a couple of years i switched to Letrozole and Zoladex when progressed, more progression switched to Exemastane and then Xeloda since last June.
I am not one of the many ladies on here that have had liver mets for years and there are a few but it's 15 months since diagnosis and I feel better now than I did on DX. The liver and lung mets are asymptomatic and give me no trouble and I've had size reduction on my last scan.
Everyone is different and responds to different treatments. DO NOT LOSE HOPE, there are loads of treatments out there and I'm sure your ONC has the situation under control.
I know evey time I've had progression or changed treatment I've had a good cry and a few days of doom laden thoughts but once treatment is underway and something is being done I start feeling better and more in control.
Sending you a big hug at this scary time and wishing you all the best.
Hi, thanks for the reply anyway. I'm hoping there is someone in a similar situation that has had some positive experience!!! Hope your treatment continues to go well. An thanks for your support..feel like I'm falling to bits!!
Donns58, It is a shocker when the cancer us on the move and involves another area. I think we all want to keep it contained where it's at. I'm sorry but I don't have experience with liver mets or bone mets either. Only what I have read. I have lung mets and one bone met in spine that is stable. Don't panic though, there are lots of treatments still available. FF
Hi , thank you so much ... just hearing from someone seems to help. It's so hard !! I really hope your scan goes well.. I will look out for your post re results . Double hugs to you
Evening ladies, I haven't posted for a long time but I'm hoping someone out there may be able to tell me about a similar experience. I was originally diagnosed in 2006 with bilateral breast and lymph nodes infected. I had 4 A&C and 4 taxol and 5 years tamoxifen. This was then followed by bone mets and I had Xeloda for 3 and a half years. This was followed by extremesane and everolimus for just under 2 years. There's been some ups and downs and some radiotherapy on the way. However all in all not too bad... over the last few weeks my tumour markers have gone up so my onc suggested we scan. My last scan was October and all looked okay. I got results today and my bones are active again and there are a lot more sites. It's also in the middle of chest/lymph in lung and there are quite a lot of smaller tumours in my liver. I was expecting a flair in the bones or lung and it's totally knocked me backwards that it's in the liver too. My onc has suggested I have taxol from next week and to be honest I feel like I've been given a death sentence! I'm petrified and I feel like I did on day one. I'm just worried this is it. I know there are some ladies that are very experienced in the bone mets section but not sure about liver too. If there is anyone who has any experience, I would really appreciate your feedback thanks for reading my post....hugs to all x
Maldives, Hi I was hoping with our time difference that you have been for your visit! I was checking to see if you posted before I left for work. I also was thinking of something else for you. My shoulder used to hurt really bad and keeping heat on it constantly was the only thing that helped. This was difficult when I was out and about. I used to take these little hand warmer pouches that construction workers out in their gloves and put one in a long sock. I was able to lay thus over my shoulder under a sweater and no one would see it. They usually last 6 to 8 hours. You can buy them in bulk at one of the warehouse type stores. I was thinking you could put them in gloves and even in the house if yiur face was hurting you could put your gloves in and hold your hands on your face. If you were out and about no one woukd know what you were doing. I will check in later after work. FF
Hello Maldives, you didn't tell us what time your appointment was, so don't know if you have been yet or not. Please let us know how you got on - we are here for you.
I'm glad to hear that the Gabapentin has started to kick in. Hopefully it will fully relieve your pain, but Carolyn swears by heat on her hips when they are painful, so as ff has suggested it might be worth a try.
It is always a shock to find out the extent of your bone mets, mine are now well and truly throughout my skeleton! At least you know the cause of the pain in your jaw, but I don't suppose that is any consolation. Sounds like the painkillers are helping and hopefully your oncologist will come up with some other ways to ease your discomfort. I'm not sure if you are already in bone strengtheners but these do help as does any treatment you start that is aimed at attacking the BC. Bone mass can increase which in general helps with the pain.
Good luck for your appointment and keep us posted.
Dear Maldives I'm pleased you pain is easing a bit. Hope your appointment clears things up for you and is reassuring. (Can you explain max fax to the ignorant?) Hugs B xx
Maldives, Well, I'm happy that the pain killer is already kicking in for you! That has to be a little relief! Take it easy! FF
Wow, wow, wow Maldives! I've never seen my bone scan and had no idea how they look. What a shock! What I do know that I found out for me is I can't look at my CT pictures! I thought I was going to throw up the last time the oncologist put them on the screen and showed me how my lungs had changed. It made me sick to see how this demon was taking over my body. That was years ago and I haven't looked since! I can look at someone else's just not mine! That must have been so upsetting to see! How long has it been between scans? Do you know how they looked last time? I agree you need to be consistent to get the best results from the pain meds. Don't be afraid to get a pain management team involved. Does heat help? Do they still make heat lamps? Maybe the warmth on your face would help. I'm glad you have an appointment Monday. Hopefully you will get a pain plan in action. I will be thinking of you! I'm so sorry you are in so much pain. You are doing so well at trying to put on a good face. I don't know how you are walking your little doggie. I have a very difficult time walking my daughter's little dog in our yard. She is only 17 pounds and has pulled me right over to the ground. My knees can't take the tugging. You take care of you! Good luck tomorrow! Gentle Hugs! FF
Maldives, my heart goes ot to you. Its such a shock to actually see this b88888 disease on scans etc. I have been worried about neck and head pain for a while but scan shows neck ok so assume its all linked to the spread of skin mets on my back. I just hope your onc gets you sorted quickly. regarding pain relief, i have only had oramorph but i do know that amytriptalene (an antidepresant) is used in small doses to help nerve pain.It may be an option to explore. I hope you get some relief soon. Lots of love. x
Aaah Maldives, so very sorry about all your pain and the scan results xxx
i wish I could offer some information or ideas which might help. However from what Barton says it sounds as if Gabapentin is a really good drug and hopefully that will ease your mind.
re the scans, the only thing I have to offer is that I too have these bone scans every now and then...my onc has said things like. ' .well there is shadow here which might be cancer or not...its hard to tell'
I do have spinal mets but there are loads of other black shadows....most of which are unlikely to be mets...my knees are shot from lifting patients, I also have patches of calcium loss...one orthopaedic cons, said 'that bone is worn out'. apparently its very hard to pinpoint all of it to cancer!
so hopefully..in your case too...not all the black bits are cancer. Xx
it must have been a big shock, all of this, hopefully you will see a U turn soon.
keep posting...let us know how you are xx
Oh, Maldives, I am so sorry to read about the extent of your mets! No wonder you have been suffering! Hopefully your Onc can sort you out with a new treatment when you see him/her tomorrow.
Re your question about Gabapentin - yes, I have been on it. I had spinal compression fractures at the end of 2015, and it was one of the tablets they prescribed. In the end, I was just taking that as the other - morphine based ones - made me constipated (causing more problems!) and sick. I found the Gabapentin worked quite well, but you do have to take it regularly so the effects build up. I expect the docs have told you that. I was able to gradually come off it by taking lower doses as by spine healed. I do so hope it works for you and relieves all that pain.
Hugs, and will be thinking of you tomorrow.
Thank you girls - indeed it has been the longest and shortest week of my life!! As you've said, as they've started treatment feels like something was being done.
Pippin I hope you recovery is quick...
one thing that this new dx has taught me is to not be proud, accept the help from others as it is their way to do something in a situation that nobody can do anything and accept being pampered, even if it's for a short while!!
Hello PMOL and Pippin,
I'm sorry you've had to join us but glad you've found the thread. You will find information and support here from people who know what you are going through and hopefully we can give you hope and encouragement and take some of the fear an anxiety away from you.
I t is very early days for you both and you are bound to be a mass of emotions and your heads full of questions. Don't feel that anything is too silly to ask, if we can aswer we will. The first couple of months are the hardest but once you have had time and space to take your dx on board and have a treatment plan in place you do slowly find your own way to adjust and cope. When you start treatment and get used to the routine you feel a bit more in control and as if something is 'being done'. You will see women on here who have been livingwith mets for years and you'll hopefully be able to let that knowledge take some of the terror away - I think most of us just want proof at the beginning that it can be lived wth and doesnt mean an immedietae death sentence! (I know I did)
I hope that your next appts give you the answers and info you need and that your treatment plans will be explained and started quickly. PMOL, I see you have already started treatment, if your mets are in bones it might be worth asking your Onc about bisphosphonates (bone juice as we call it here!) to help strengthen your bones. Pippin I hope you are recovering from surgery well, they may not start your treatment til you are recovered but hopefully they will tell you what the plans are.
Racer I'm sorry you are struggling with SE's, sounds horrid! Hope you will get some good tips from the other thread and that those on the same treatment can reassure you. I know it doesn't make the SE's any easier but I imagine that knowing others have experienced similar can make you feel less alone and that you are experiencing 'normal' symptoms which can be dealt with or may subside. I wish you luck for the next dose and hope it is easier.
Hieveryone I have not posted before but have been reading this thread.
Hi PMOL I too was diagnosed end of Dec with bone secondaries from original BC and new primary. Mastectomy was on then off then on again and am now recovering from surgery. That feeling of utter devastation waking each morning is so familiar to me but I have found like others have said on this thread that that state does pass. I have not yet gone a whole day without thinking about it but others have and I think with a bit more time I will get there.
Hi girls... new at this 😉 Got diagnosed with bone mets on Monday... think I'm all over the place emotionally... was going in for a masectomy after my bc returned and they stopped the op due to the mets... now on hormone treatment (zoladex & letrosone) but just started... trying to get my head round all of this... nit sure I,make much sense!! 😥
Hello racer, lovely Moijan is right - the 7 on, 7 off is quite a well known regime for Cape. I think the Americans use it more than we do over here (my Onc claimed to not believe in it, but as Moijan says, she has been on it and plenty of other people have good results with it too).
Please do join us on the Xeloda/Capecitabine thread on the Treatments board.
Hugs, and wishing you all the best. Barton.x
Hi there Racer,
havent crossed paths lately, have we?
its fine to have cape one week on and one off...that worked really well for me for about two years...can see why he is being cautious with you...obviously you need the right amount of platelets....
try not to get too fed up...totally understand why you are worried, but my onc too scans my bloods thoroughly and They probably all do!
these treatments play havoc with our body chemistry so its all a delcate balance....sounds as if hes trying to look after you really well........
also look on the Capecitabine thread...lovely Barton is a Cape veteran and may have some good advice/personal experience to share xx
and...we all dread being told theres nothing else for us......but there are new drugs bouncing in off the horizon...take heart xxxx
Racer, You must be so frustrated I have not had any experience with this. I wonder if a different chemo might be better. Have other chemos done this too? Can you get a second opinion?!? I'm crossing fingers for you that the every other week might be your answer. It us crazy these drugs effect each of us and how everyone's cancer is different. No wonder it is so difficult to find a cure! Good luck! Please let us kniw how every other week works! Hugs, will be thinking of you! FF
Just a quick hello to all
Avrelia,,,,,congrats on the return to work:hope its going well.
Truff.....hope you are still feeling a bit more up beat. xx
Love to all. x
Truffle, You certainly are not a wimp! You just had a lot put on your plate! I don't think any of us are wimps! This not easy!! FF
thank you , thank you, that sounds so positive , xxxx
will get reading , you are all amazing on here , make me feel like a wimp , xx
Oh Ff, that must have been a nasty shock. Glad it's safe and avoided your house.
Truffle-shuff - sorry I haven't posted until now. So sorry to read of your worries. I don't have any advice to offer, but JulieD and Moijan have, I hope, managed to put your mind at ease a bit with all their wonderful help. Just wanted to wish you all the best for your treatment, etc.
Yes, Carolyn, it's been quite quiet on here lately. Hopefully it means everyone is just getting on with things!
Quiet on here today! Had a few minutes before I go to work, so wanted to check on everyone. Truffle I've been thinking of you, and glad you were able to read some stories to give you encouragement! I hope you get moving quickly with a plan. I know sometimes when things are happening quickly it can put us in a spin! On the other hand though if the doctors drag their feet too long, our imaginations get the best of us! Please try to squeeze in some fun, in the middle if all this. Treat yourself to something you have been wanting!
OMG, a tree just came crashing down! It didn't hit the house but it sounded close. Must go look! It's an extremely windy day and going to get worse as the day moves on! OK, all is well! It's leaning into another one and should stay there! Plus a huge branch came down out of another tree and is laying across the branches of several smaller trees. Darn wish it was across the driveway, so I could stay home today! Have a great day! FF
I'm so pleased to hear you are feeling a little more hopeful.
I remember when I was first dx all I wanted was to know that it wasn't an immmediate death sentence and that there were people out there living with what I had. The links Moijan has given will hopefully further assure you that yes there are people with brain mets that not only continue to live but live well.
Hold on to hope.
Lots of love and masses of strength xx
'Nearly four years in ....and brain mets please help'
thread is under 'Living with secondary breast cancer-Treatment and medical issues'
there are a couple of posts about it from two other ladies....one is undergoing wbr just now another has had cyberknife.
love and Hugs,
Thank you, yes it has lifted me so much , It was like being hit with a sledge hammer . I do feel more poritive now. I had a couple of lovely replies on private message , I have been trying to reply , but , the link seems to be taking a nap . so if you dont get a reply from me soon, honestly all info was brilliant and has given me hope .
keep well xx
Thank you so much for your informative reply Julie d.
It has lifted me , I am planning my funeral at present , and The thought of WBR , sounds very barbaric to me , but you have given me some hope that this could be doable for me , oh and breath !!!! . i could handle the liver , bus as you sat the brain, is me, its personality , its memory its human . so to hear that I may be ok after this and not a vegatable is very reassuring.
bless you and keep you well , so very grateful xx
Hi again Truffle,
hope the link worked?
let me know if notxx
there are few ladies on there who may have ideas xx