Daisyjane thank you for yor well wishes. I hope your scan went smoothly and the results come quickly and you can move on with the best plan for you. As I expected my scan had not been reported so I landed up waiting over 2 hours to see the Onc,proper report still not available (will get it in post when done) but radiologist told Onc there were no changes since last one so take that as stable and am happy
Corey, you are in a hard place at the moment and I don't think you've been helped by confused commnications b5 your team. Try not too worry too much (easier said than done!). I think that when you get a primary dx they want to go straight in for the bigger guns to try to 'beat it', when you get a secondary dx they are more concerned about getting things under control and often don't do much about the primary until you are more stable. It sounds like now they've had a proper chance to look at and discuss your case they have decided that as you've only one met in sacrum they can treat the primary first and then move onto the met, that to me seems quite positive as it seems to indicate they are not over concerned about mets spreading quickly. I'm afraid we do get treted and spoken to differently a lot of the time, the medics deal with primary head on with the hope of curing people, we can't be cured so their attitude changes and I'm not sure they really know how to engage with us. I wish you luck and hope your meeting will put your mind at rest a little.
Lizzy, thanks for that input and the link. I tink a lot of us are interested in the cannabis issue but most of us would prefer the legal route. Helen, that's interesting, I didn't realise it could be grown without THC.
Hope anyone facing scans, results or treatment has a good week xx
Hello Corey, sorry you are having a confusing and distressing time at the moment. It does get easier is all I can say. You need to get the upsetting bits over with first though - not easy, I know! Hang on in there. Please always feel free to rant and rave on here - there is always someone who understands exactly what you are going through, and provide all the support they can.
In some of our state's cannabis is legal and others not. They legalized it in my state but now they are working on putting it in action where to get it! They said it will take about 2 year to have it available. Ridiculous!!!! I know I couldn't smoke the illegal stuff, I wouldn't get it past my nose! Not sure if I would try the legal kind either.
hi avrelia thank you for reply,i am so glad its not just me that feels this way. just the thought of giong to see the oncologist makes me a nervus wreak. i have totally lost my appetite but hopefully i can get this back when things settle down . on friday i go and chat about starting chemo which terrifies me but at least im starting some treatment soon. just hope it knocks this bone met in the butt.time will tell
take care xx
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Hi Corey, I know exactly how you feel. When I first went to the breast clinic and was told that I am 90% having a breast cancer, everyone was so positive, because all of them presumed it was a primary one. They said that is is curable, although, as you have heard, many cancers come back after a while...Anyway, as you guys say everyone is different. Whatever you read it might be not applicable for your as a case. Then I had all the scans and they revealed bone mets. All of the team started to talk to me, as if I was supposed to be dead shortly, that made me really desparate. Then i started asking questions about my prognozis, no one could give me an answer. They emphasized several times that the illness is no longer curable but treatable, and I will start first whith chemo and bone strenghteners, then if everything is ok I can have surgery next year...
These hospital visits definitely kick the good mood out of me, every time they take downd our weight, blood pressure, temperature....Speak to you as if you are doomed....
Be positive and live your life as if this is just a chronic disease, if you know what I mean, accept it and fight for good days, everything will be ok.
Yes I asked one of the oncologists team about cannabis oil and he said he'd not heard of it!!
A friend of a friend has started growing it - it's cannabis but with the THC (bit that makes you high) taken out as he has a lot of bowel pain and its the only thing that helps. It's much cheaper to grow yourself but this isn't in oil form so you eat it in leaf form or smoke it. He gave me some.. Smells really bad in leaf form! The prob is you don't know if this is doing you any good or not with all the other stuff we are on. There has been research done in Oxford and lots of people in America swear by it. Hard to know until more complete studies done but there is definitely something in it I think.
Hi Sharon, yes heard good things about cannabis oil. Wanted to try it myself.. Trouble is...how can we get it?
I actually asked my onc a while back..he said'sorry I cant help'
hope you find it useful, do keep us posted
hi marie123 thankyou for replying i just feel so up and down. when i was told i had a bone met oncologist seemed optomistic but the nurse talked like id been wrote off. its feels different to when i first got breast cancer diagnosis everyone was so positive. hopefully friday i will get a plan sorted and feel a bit more confident .i have to say im not looking forward to the picc line being put in. i shall be a nervous wreak
Hi Corey, totally get what you are saying. At the beginning of this I felt like I was a scientific experiment. Chemo yes , no maybe , no second op yes then cancelled the day before.
Ask lots of questions and make sure you are happy with your team.
I think the oncs are trying to do their best for is, but it is not an exact science everyone is different , cancers are different and the way patients respond to treatment is different. (Although a little understanding from medical teams wouldn't go a miss )
This is hard for you when you are so vulnerable, BUT it does get better. Your treatment plan will be put in place and then you will know where you are.
Be gentle with yourself and take care.
Hugs Marie xx
hi all, feeling scared and confused.after being diagnosed in july with one single bone met to my sacrum. (shortly after primary diagnosis) i was put on tamoxifen.told because the rest of my body was clear at the moment they would concentrate on the sacrum with targeted radiotherapy maybe at the royal marsden.now today i get a call from oncologist to say they have decided to treat me with chemo first instead then rads to breast then maybe rads to sacrum.i feel like they cant make up their minds and this has completely thrown me again. go to see oncologist on friday at rde and already panicking about what he is going to say. is this the norm for a single bone met? so sorry to moan on but my mind has gone into overdrive. xxx
Bone scan tomorrow, seem to have a bit more discomfort in my pelvis but may be all in the mind. MRI head scan was good. Thank you everyone for all the hair information
Ha ha Carolyn, yes at least the dogs shed more than I do......and hubby is finally thinning too so the Dyson is groaning! Sorry you have thinning as well FF. Have you had any gastro problems on Ibrance? I'm having the galloping trots and stomach cramps but it may be the Taselisib. Lost my appetite too.....which could be a positive!! Thinking of everyone xx
Stillhere, My hair is thin and breaking from ibrance and letrozole. My eye lashes and eye brows have been thinned out since I started mets. FF
Hey Carolyn, I seem to be getting hair and eyelash thinning with Ibrance! Think it's a recognised side effect, my Onc just says it shows it's working!! Anyone got any tips? Never had lots anyway after so many treatments, will stop having highlights now though.....
For those of you checking out wigs, it might be worth visiting http://www.mynewhair.org/
It was set up by Trevor Sorbie and lists salons who will cut and style a wig to suit you. There's also a downloadable booklet with advice on choosing and caring for a wig.
Carolyn, I'm laughing at your wig dilemmas. When I was first dx with breast cancer a friend brought a wig maker to my house. He came measured mg head and told me about real hair wigs and acrylic wigs. He told me about melting them. This was mid October and we celebrate Thanksgiving in November. Every year without fail I open the oven to check on the turkey and I burn myself with the steam. He said the realm hair wig was $1,000 and the acrylic was $300. I figured I would melt one at Thanksgiving and probably another one later. I figured I should just get the real hair one. I still have it! FF
Hi Julie.. Thanks for the zometa/denusumab info. It makes sense my bring on Zometa it as I am so short of breath so that se would be a disaster for me!
carolyn.. Happy your furniture up! I went to the new Reading IKEA today.. Was great but chose 2 coffee tables and a huge mirror for the bathroom but when I got to the warehouse storage bit, all 3 items were out of stock.. So disappointed! I had managed to pick up a trendy modern standard lamp, paid for it and then left it on the checkout! Aghhhhh! So annoyed. Rang and they said it hadn't been handed in. I'm gonna go in omorrow and demand to see cctv!!
Hi Carolyn, no I am not cold capping, I just thoght that probably I will lose some of my hair anyway, so why not the whole of it rather being bald only at certain spots....Will share with you when it starts falling, may be just before the second cycle, who knows, anyway, I am having an appointment at the Wigs clinic, had already chosen a nice wig, hope that they are going to find the right size coz my head appears to be a big one
Positivi thinkink helps me quite a lot, you sound positive as well and you have had a long fight!!! Admirations!!! Keepp on having that high spirit and be as helpful as you are!
Hello Carolyn, no, not sitting on balcony today as it keeps coming over way too hot for me - being on Cape I have to take care in the sun.
Glad you are not over-stretching yourself today. Take it easy for the rest of the day now. By the way, has your new decking furniture arrived yet (sorry, can't remember the date you said - might be tomorrow, come to think of it).
I spent just over an hour with Dad this afternoon. My sister bought him a new mobile phone from QVC the other day as his previous one completely gave up the ghost (probably used in the Ark, anyway!). It is a really simple one, but as he has real trouble with his sight, and he has man fingers (ie really big), he found it a little difficult. We got there in the end though. On a side note, I don't think he is walking enough!
Hope everyone else is taking it easy, and finding se's not too bad.
Hi ladies, hope that you are ok, new ones-SORRY that you had to join, but make your self at home, ladies here are gorgeous!!! Have not posted for a while, but have had quite a few busy days at work. Firs chemo is done, SE are pretty ok, just a slight change in taste and a bit of a sore mouth and throat. My appetite is strangely high, may be bacause I quit smoking as well. Still waiting for my first bone strenthener injection with my second chemo. By the way is anyone being treated at St Georges London?
Had a lovely day yesterday, my partner bought me a small and cute diamond ring, love him so much. Today I am having a lazy day covering one of our colleagues ate the same time, reading about all these benefits and stuff. Hope all of you are OK, keep your heads up.
Carolyn, I hope you don't/didn't overdo it at the car boot sale today. You know what happened last time!
Thank you to Angelmum72,moijan,marie123,natalie1,andrea and everybody that has replied to my post and given me hope. yes you are quite right we need time to let things settle.we have had a terrible year as we are dairy farmers and struggling with milk prices and everything else, now the shock of secondaries has put the tin hat on it. you are right i will feel better when a treatment plan is in place. at the moment i have no pain which is good as i can still run my holiday cottage(attached to farm house) which i do all the cleaning for . it also takes my mine of the cancer for a while.sorry i seem to be going on a bit but just cant thank everyone enough. love and big hugs to you all.
First of all a very big smile and a happy hug for you artygirl. I'm so very pleased to hear your good news. I'm glad you found support here when you needed it and I wish you all the very best for the future x
Welcome to all the new ladies, sorry you are eligable for membership of this group but pleased you have found it and hope you will find support here and not feel so alone and that our stories will help you feel a little less scared. Most importantly that you can see and believe there is HOPE.
Re Zometa/Denosumab. Zometa was the 'gold standard' treatment when I started it 6 years ago, the other oral bisphosphonates weren't very popular as you had to take them and then remain upright without food for at least an hour....Zometa can interfer with kidneys so they do the blood tests to keep an eye on it, it can also cause osteonecrosis in the jaw (ONJ) BUT it not only strengthens your bones to help protect attack from the cancer there is some evidence it may also fight the cancer in some small way too. Denosumab does the same job as Zometa but in a slightly different way, it is kinder on the kidneys but can still cause ONJ and some people have breathing issues as a SE. The Zometa is cheaper but takes more time to administer so cost wise they probably even out. I could have gone onto Denosumab but chose to stick with Zometa as it's working for me so why mess with it and also I have a port which would still need flushing every 4 weeks ....I do find that I get more tired and achy just before and just after treatment, it migh be the same with the Denosomab.
Daisyjane, I get my latest scan results on Monday too so we can hold each others hands virtually. The Tamoxifen should start to kick in in about 8 weeks so hopefully your scan will show this. It works for different lengths of time for everyone but it can work for years so fingers crossed that's what it will do for you.
Think I better stop before I write a book! Have as good a weekend as possible girls xx
Hi Carolyn 52,
I have just noticed , that you mention you get pain after the Denosomab injections, I have only had two and so far no pain, Is this something that will develop along the treatment. I have bone mets in several places , but the only one I get pain with is the one in my hip , pain in groin so makes walking hard . I also have Fulvesterant , 3 so far and no side effects, as I am thinking of going back to work , your input would be helpful , I dont want to go bounding in , like the Dulux dog , then have to go on sick again,
keep well xx