We have taken the decision to close this thread. The conversation has gone off topic and despite reminders from moderators to focus on the topic, it has progressed into a different discussion. Many people have voiced their views on this discussion and it now seems the conversation is repeating itself so we have closed this thread to avoid further disputes. Thank you to all who contributed to the discussion.
Thanks for your post lizcat, I will pass it on for Leah/Mike tomorrow but we can 'consider' it closed for now if that's ok with everyone