Referenced article: http://jingtea.com/tea-knowledge/tea-and-health/tea-and-cancer
"women with a history of breast cancer who drank 5 cups of tea daily were 50% less likely to have a recurrence"
I haven't checked the source - but sounds hopeful. Even my surgeon recommended green tea.
tempting because worth it if it works, after buying the smoothie maker and books i think its a tad pricey for me this month, good luck though
You can get Sencha tea in any chinese/japanese food store, pretty cheap. Health food stores usually do it in teabags but apparently the loose tea is a lot more potent. Any green tea good but Sencha the best for cancer fighting I have read.
My accupuncturist has just recommended this:
Bloody expensive but worth a try? I've just ordered some. I'm thinking, well I used to spend that on a few pints of beer on a night out anyway! And I don't do that anymore so now I'll spend it on tea 😉
And green tea is supposed to have lots of health benefits as well as cancer. Lets get slurping!
well done GB for the weight loss!!
where do you get your sencha green tea? have been looking for some but failed!
BTW try adding fresh mint leaves to Sencha green tea, makes it taste nicer! Ooh and I've lost another pound of weight, hooray 🙂
Feel so inspired by this thread I have just ordered a juicer from Amazon (though might need a science degree to work it!) Just the thought of all that healthy food makes me feel fitter. It actually sounds delicious too.
I have never posted before but I love this thread. I was diagnosed in December 2004 and I changed my diet..very radically at first.I did not eat any dairy,ate loads of fruit and vef,regularly juiced,flaxseed green tea etc. I always allowed myself soya ( and still do...ooo a soya latte..mid afternoon..yummy)..now almost five years later..I still do most of the things I started out doing but am more relaxed...some weeks my diet seems more full of wine etc and I have a pudding if I fancy.but the principles I follow are still the same..I have never felt better...
I hope this helps..
With regard to freezing fruit - I wash the grapes, dry them and stick them in a foil container or a bag. I just take out a few each time I do a smoothie. I have a big bag of frozen cranberries that I bought like that. The blackberries I've been picking I wash dry and have put them in a foil container. The cranberries and blackberries last ages like that. The grapes I don't know as this is something I've only recently started doing.
I think it makes the smoothie so much nicer have something frozen in it. I always use a very ripe banana as well because it counteracts any sourness of the other fruit.
I use ginger too, love it. Sometimes raw garlic as well, it's the ultimate medicinal food apparently! Boyfriend NOT impressed - despite being French he insists that garlic is "poison"...
I've never juiced broccoli, but I have found that putting some ginger into juices that contain veg such as cabbage, broccoli, sprouts etc makes it a lot more pleasant, I still add plenty of apples etc but it kinda adds a bit of a zing!
Hi, how different in taste is the purple variety?? i dont think i have even seen it.
I love purple sprouting broccoli and the tender stem stuff. OH grows it in the garden and I can't believe how much they charge for it in Sainsbury's and M and S when it's in season. We always laugh when we see shops selling 5 sticks of rhubarb for a pound as well - we have such a glut of it every year that we have to give it away to friends and neighbours!
thankyou for that, thats a great help, i have always wondered how to freeze various items and so will start doing that from now on. I made my first home made broccoli, potato and cheese soup a few weeks ago. I ended up wasting some because it made so much, but will freeze it next time. Kinda going a bit mad on broccoli at the moment, i bet broccoli shares have gone up.
When I make veg soups I let them cool a bit then blend then until smooth using a stick blender or the liquidiser. When they are really cool I pour them into Pour 'n Store freezer bags (available from Sainsbury's etc) which are the type of freezer bags that stand up and have a zip top. I find them the best as they are like pouches and they stand up in your freezer baskets or drawers. You can defrost the contents in the microwave if you open the top, but you can't heat things in them.
When I freeze veg from the garden, mainly beans, carrots and stuff, I prep them for cooking, then I blanch them in boiling water for a minute. Drain them and when they are cool you can bag them up and freeze. Rhubarb from the garden is stewed, then put into plastic freezer containers when cold. I use this for puddings during the winter.
With fruit like blackberries you have to rinse and dry them. After this put them on a baking tray individually so they are not touching or lumped together. Freeze them on the tray (there is a freezing shelf at the top of my freezer), then store them in rigid containers.
Hope this helps.
Hi, im getting good at asking silly questions but will carry on anyway. When freezing all these fruits and soups etc, and particular prep needed or can it all just go straight in the freezer??
Get yourselves around the local hedgerows ladies! There are loads of bushes in and around the park near me and I have been going blackberrying when I'm out for a walk. I've been coming back with lots every time I've been out and the best bit is they are free - all you need is a pair of comfy shoes or trainers and a few containers to collect the fruit in. I'm going off to get more at the weekend as I'm planning some jam and will maybe freeze some of the fruit for the winter. People passing look at me as if I'm a bit daft but I don't care. Some free fruit plus a nice walk can't be bad.
I'm on a diet programme via my GP surgery and have been given loads of info, I get weighed every couple of weeks and it's all about healthy eating, exercise and a slow loss. I don't eat many cakes or things, but when I do it's only if I've made them as I can control what goes in. We also grow veg so I make and freeze loads of soup, veg curries, ratatouille etc as it's all organic.
I worked for the Japanese for 10 years and they have much lower incidences of breast cancer; my colleagues used to say they had difficulty coping with the diet in this country because of all the dairy products, so I have always believed there is some connection there.
This is great,lots of ideas for juices and thanks for the info about which juicer to buy.
I feel inspired!!
i have just bought my juicer and went straight in and made a broccoli, kiwi fruit and apple smoothie. I intially put a little too much broccoli in, but once sorted it was actually rather refreshing. My partner drank half a glass so doesnt agree, great for getting that cancer fighting goodness though.
Can i ask how you freeze berries?? or is it as simple as just putting them in the freezer??
I am going to make sure that i have a smoothie every day, bought a smoothie book too, one recipe in there is for broccoli and grapes, will try that tomorrow.
enjoy your smoothies
Blenders are great for bananas, peeled fruit etc - they're for making thicker 'smoothies' or soups where everything you add is kept in the mix, yogurt, milk, icecream etc.
Loads of stuff you can put in both. But bananas don't seem to make any 'juice' - juicers literally separate the juice from the flesh of the fruit/veg, so the quantity is smaller and more easily consumable!
Have been reading your thread and ust been out to buy a blender. However i now think i should have got a juicer. I know this is a stupid question probably, but what's the difference? And what can i do with my blender?
Juicers are different from blenders, in that they extract the juice and discard the pith instead of just blending the whole lot.
I've bought a good juicer from Amazon:
Seems to have gone up in price suddenly, I bought it a couple of weeks ago for £66! It came with a free recipe book by 'The Juicemaster' which was helpful for ideas. I now get organic (seasonal) fruit and veg boxes delivered to my door by Abel & Cole, and just chuck it in whole, raw, peel and all. Apart from stones of course. Juicer seems to cope as it has a big feeding tube, and it's easy to use and clean. Red cabbage makes a lot of juice, doesn't taste as bad as it sounds when mixed with kiwi, apple etc! I would never have eaten cabbage before but supposed to be v good.
Green tea is supposed to be excellent for fighting cancer, especially the Japanese ones, like Sencha. Thing is they do contain some caffeine, so can't drink it in the evening. I've also heard it's best to let it steep for about 10 minutes and use water that's slightly cooler than boiling (add a bit of cold).
Re treats, organic dark chocolate I have read is an anti-cancer food, just get the high cocoa content ones.
This is great and so good to hear others ideas. I'm not keen on cooked broccoli but know it's really good for you so I'm definitely going to try in the juicer. Other juices I've done which are nice are carrot and apple and kiwi or melon. Another is carrot, celery and tomato.
For a sweet treat even though more calories a smoothie is great. I keep some frozen grapes or cranberries in the freezer and blend up a few of those with a ripe banana, apple juice, blueberries or strawberries and recently some blackberries from a bush at the end of our garden.
i find the whole soy thing really confusing some people say its okay and some it isn't. I read that keep it low is probably best so I just have once a day on muesli. If I go out I do have a soy latte if I'm anywhere near a Cafe Nero.
Green tea I've read is really good providing you let it steep for about quite a while.
Anymore smoothie or juice ideas anyone?
thanks girls... just back from tescos armed with lots of fresh veg and fruit.... including broccoli... i'm off to the kitchen now to get whizzing!
thanks for inspiring me!!
yay, thats brilliant, im going to try the broccoli, apple and kiwi,
Just been rummaging in the darkest recesses of the kitchen cupboards and found a juicer/blender that was OH's before we got together ! Also found the instruction booklet, by some miracle or other!!!
It was very grubby so all its bits are now in the dishwasher and I have given the base a good clean.
Have a small bit of broccoli in the fridge ( not enough to do for a famly dinner) so think I'll give it a whizz later !!! ( raw...!)
Hi, broccolli, apple and kiwi actually sounds really nice.... i think, i will try that when i am armed my my new smoothie maker later, and thanks for the lemon tip.
really enjoyed reading this thread. I did lots of juicing during chemo and my bloods were always ok to have chemo on time and I put it down to the juicing doing some good. I have to say since going back to work I'm not as good as I was and really need to get back on track, probably only doing 2/3 juices a week whereas I was doing that a day at one point! Trying to loose weight and one of the dieticians pointed out how much sugar/cals I was getting from the fruit in the juices and I have lost half a stone since cutting back my juices. Anyway my reason for posting was to say yes i juice broccoli raw and find that adding all the stalk provides much more juice(though still not a lot!) I add kiwi and apple to broccoli and find it's really nice. Another tip I was given was to add a bit of lemon juice if intending to not drink the juice immediately as it helps keep the colour and vitamins.
i may be wrong but i am presuming raw?? i will be trying it later so will tell you if its bearable raw.
hello all... i'm trying my best too, but lapsed a bit during and post chemo cos i kept 'craving' nasty food...
i have a silly question for you...
do you need to lightly steam/ boil/ cook broccoli before whizzing? or does it go in raw?!!
ta, becky xx
i have just found a smoothie maker in argos, half price at £19.99, reserved mine, will collect later and attempt to make one.
Hi all, great post. I was diagnosed in April (so very recent) and had really tough time on chemo, now started rads. Have been seeing a herbalist and nutritionist recently. They've said the same about dairy and soya. Nutritionist said apply 80/20 rule (20% "treats, lapses are ok)so don't beat yourself up about not being "good" all the time. I've got a hand blender which I used for weaning my toddler, from Braun. Great for fruit juicing to make smoothies, and really easy to clean. Recommended high GI breakfast - Apple/pear/banana plus medium oatmeal, flax seed, almond and sunflower and oat milk - not half as bad as it seems and now not skipping meals or feeling hungry. Also recommended to use a lot of tumeric in cooking to help with all the effects of the heat from rads and infections. Mushrooms great for immune system. Have started using oat milk in tea, again not as bad as I thought.
Not tried it yet but nutritionist recommended following raw juice especially mid moring: half cucumer, 2 sticks of celery, bunch of watercress, brocolli and apple (every other day beetroot, twice a week add 2 carrots). And Green smoothie - handful of spinach and watercress, 1/2 avocado, 1/2 cucumber, 1/2 cup water, handful of berries. Think adding fruit probably helps.
Avocados great for restoring lost oils from treatment. Have a tiny city garden but brother-in-law put in a raised veg bed for me in May, now have a great supply of organic beetroot and tomatoes - not really grown anything like that before so really pleased - every little thing helps.
I've definitely done a big rethink on my diet, as I was eating a lot of dairy and soya.
I'm interested in making some healthy juices.Anyone got any advice as to which juicer to buy.Preferably one thats easy to clean.
Do you have to peel the veg before you juice?Also interested in how you juice broccoli.
Also,does anyone have any nice recipes because i have never tried veggie juices and was wondering how you make them taste nice!
Well done Elinda, that is fab !!!
I have been trying to modify my eating over the past few weeks and I agree about not really having cravings for naughty things!( and like you I was always on the chocolate, wine, cheese, crisps etc. etc)
I did have a glass of red and a dessert when we all went out to celebrate my dad's 70th at the weekend though...!( very special occasion!)
Would also be interested to know how you juice broccoli as asked by the other Anna above...
I'm 8 months down the line since my diagnosis and radically overhauled my diet (and lifestyle) from that day. I've cut out all dairy, all red meat, all alcohol, all sugar and increased fruit and veg to a minimum of 5 portions a day but usually around 7 - 9. I have also increased consumption of pulses, nuts and I do regularly do juices or smoothies. I do occasionally make treats of cookies using dates to sweeten them or a little raw agave syrup and occasionally have dark chocolate that again is sweetened with raw agave syrup. I've also used a lot of different recipes such as authentic curries, Moroccan food etc to make our less meat based diet more interesting.
In spite of having had a love of three or four glasses of red wine each weekend, a very sweet tooth - I used to each dairy milk chocolate every single day and I also regularly consumed dairy such as cheese, yoghurt,milk etc I have not even once deviated from my new diet.
I have found that over time it has got so much easier rather than harder. What has amazed me most is that whereas I used to crave sweet things all the time I don't any more. I'm sure my dentist will see a big improvement. I was also overweight and have lost two and half stone. A whole new wardrobe is called for once I've finished my treatment in January!
I'm very lucky because my husband has gone on the same diet although he does have a bit of alcohol. He has lost over a stone too. We both keep saying we wished we'd done this years ago.
Hi, i am going to ask another silly question. How do you juice broccoli?? Do you mix it with anything else?? do you do it in one of those juicer things?? I am just starting to get interested in the adjusting diet thing and any help much appreciated.
Good post Daisy,
I'm a great fan of avocados, bananas and apricots too !
In fact, am off to have one ( or maybe all 3!) right now!
I think we need to take an holistic view and as well as good diet make sure we exercise - whether its walking around the garden a few times or doing miles per day. Also take care of ourselves and pamper with good moisturisers and soothing baths. Diet for the body and other for the mind. Relaxing for 10mins per day with eyes shut and calm thinking can do miracles and relieve stress.
Lets look after ourselves ladies I think we deserve to for ourselves let alone others.
I also eat apricots and avocados - lets also remember bananas for the potassium - brain needs all it can get. Lots of fibre and fun too.
I saw a dietician on Monday to try to clear up some of my concerns about these issues.
She recommended a book called "The Breast Cancer Treatment and Prevention Diet" by Susannah Olivier ( who had BC herself 13 years ago). Lots of copies on Amazon (used from 25p).
She told me there is increasing evidence that reducing dairy products is beneficial. The same with red meat ( I don't eat it anyway).
Soya products , in her opinion, are ok in moderation and the phytoestrogens are more likely to have a protective effect like Tamoxifen.
Things to avoid include: caffeine, alcohol, salt, sugary foods and processed foods.
"Super" foods include:onions,leeks,garlic,cabbage type things and broccoli, brussel sprouts,citrus fruits, pineapple, olive oil, brown rice, ginger, oats, green tea, oily fish, parsley,nuts and seeds and orange/red/purple veg and fruit like peppers,apricots, berries, carrots, sweet potatoes...
She recommends not skipping meals or becoming hungry, snacking a little and often (on healthy options as above)and taking plenty of fluid during the day ( 1.5-2 litres), which should be water, juice, non-caffeinated drinks or smoothies.
She had other suggestions for low energy, anaemia, poor appetite, and constipation.
She did stress that these were guidelines not rigid rules and that it is important to have a little of what you fancy from time to time (ie. treats).
I found it quite useful and came away with lots of ideas.
Wow that's brilliant - well done you! Great to hear diet can really make a difference. I have started juicing also, lots of cabbage, brocolli & carrots etc. My tummy doesn't know quite what's going on - but hoping it'll help me fight the BC as much as poss. Anyone else do juicing? Seems good, at least I've finally lost my baby-weight after 2 years!
mine is not long was diagnosed in june with brain mets lots of cluster apparently, somebody bought me the book beating cancer with nutrition and I have eaten organic every since. I went on Friday and they said they have reduced. I also juice a broccoli everyday , I hear thats very good for you.
Hi - since my recent diagnosis I have tried really hard to change my diet to a healthier one, lots of organic veg and less animal products. I'm hoping I can keep this up for good but a bit worried I will lapse!
Would be interested in hearing from people who've had/recovered from BC a long time ago - did it change your lifestyle permanently? Or did you gradually revert to old ways?! I've read the usual cancer fighting food books but any tips would be welcome for long term changes.