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HJU63
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi, found this thread to be really useful. I have experienced both flushes and night sweats but it is the nights I struggle with.
I had frequent, intense night sweats that started after FEC3 and meant that I couldn't sleep. Have been on Venlafaxine since then (Sept) which helped and I had a pretty good sleep pattern from then. Started Tamoxifen at the end of November and over the last 2 weeks the night sweats have got bad again and I sleep for no more then 90 minutes at a time. Has anyone else changed from Venlafaxine to another medication and what was the impact?
Helen

RevCat
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Hi Elaine 5, sorry it is so long since you posted and only just getting a reply now. Lots of people take Tamoxifen and never get any side effects - the people who post tend to be the ones who do. Whilst HRT is an absolute no-no, along with most herbal remedies, there are various drugs including clonidine (an alpha blocker) citalopram and venlafaxine (anti-depressants) and an anticonvulsant (the name of which escapes me) which can be safely taken at low doses for flushing. Beyond that it's chillows (I am a HUGE fan) at night, and layers and fans by day. Hope your flushes are not aggravated by Tam - but it is so much better than the alternative.
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Hi there. I've been reading all the stories about Tamoxifen and hot flushes and getting very depressed! I was on H.R.T. when I was diagnosed, had to stop taking it and so of course I now have the hot flushes back which were the reason I started taking it in the first place! I was so relieved w to be told I didn't need chemo or radiotherapy, but the onchologist is very keen for me to take Tamoxifen (the surgeon said I was a borderline case in his opinion) - will the Tamoxifen mean that my flushes get even worse? They're driving me mad - although at least they don't wake me up in the night (needing to go to the loo three times a night does that!)
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I dont just get Hot Flushes, if I am outside in the cold I steam. Very embarrasing, I also sweat profusely and whatever I wear does not help as I can be nude and have the same problem. I am so fed up with being continually saoked. I no longer drink and have one cup of coffee a day. My flushes even happen when I am out running and as I am out doing the marathon for BCC this year it is super annoying, nothing better then being hot and sweaty from a work out and then get even hotter and sweatier with a flush. Really getting to the point that I do not know if I should laugh or cry. Lately just crying and feeling sorry for myself. I have been on Tamoxifen for almost a year and it is just getting worse.
mangochutney
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Revcat, I had 10 sessions of acupuncture this time last year for my flushes. Whilst it was very relaxing and made me make time for ME, it didn't make one jot of difference to my hot flushes!! I'm persevering with 50mch Clonidine in a morning and 75mcg in the evening. It has reduced them but I must admit, recently, I do still keep having them. And whilst I don't expect any miracle cute to eliminate them all together, they seem to be a little more frequent recently than they have been since starting Clonidine. But I'm full of a cold so wonder if that's why?!
Try the acupuncture, it may work for you.
Good luck and let us know how u get on
Mandy xxx

RevCat
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Re: Hot flushes

After three months of Clonidine and no substantive change in the frequency or intensity of flushes, my GP has now switched me to 37.5mg Venlafaxine, which is an anti-depressanat at a very low dose (about 10% of what they give for depression). We'll see if this works - if it doesn't I htink there are still other options other than 'shut up and get on with it'.

So just to say to anyone reading this, you don't have to put up with flushes and if at first you don't succeed, get your GP to suggest something else.


EDIT... took one venlafaxine and had a severe adverse reaction (extremely rare) so back to the clonidine. GP has suggested I consider either acupuncture or meditation - anyone any experience of these?
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For leg cramps, drink a glass of tonic water or bitter lemon every (other?) day. I didn't know that the pain was called leg cramps. I'd had them before but regularly on Tamoxifen.

There is a quinine-based drug for leg cramps but it can't be taken long-term. There's enough quinine in the drinks to deal with Tamoxifen-induced leg cramps.

If I remember to drink tonic water regularly, I won't get night leg cramps at all.
RevCat
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Good to get your update Mandy... I'd have to say my flsuhes are pretty much back to where they started now, but will plod on a little longer before speaking to my GP... Also, due to other onging investigations, a drug change just now would be a bad idea!

Hope the senna works for you.
mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Latest update!!!
I spoke to my GP on the phone yesterday about the Clonidine and its side effects. I told her Im still getting the odd one in the night that wakes me up, as well as the odd one in the evening. We agreed that nothing will eliminate the hot flushes completely, and they ARE much better than they were. However, I told her about the constipation. The compromise is, Im staying on the Clonidine (50mcg in the morning and 75mcg in the evening) but shes given me some Senna to take in the evening.
First night on new regime tonight!!!
I'll keep you posted!!!
Mandy xx

lottie63
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi Ladies
I have only been on Tamoxifen for 2 months but have found the SE,s quite bad, not had a deceent nights sleep since I started due to hot flushes ( and I thought being on the St Eroids was bad enough Humpff !! ) Leg pains are sooo sore and I am now back at work part time with very short/cropped hair and loely RED ears half the time lol, I was told I would be on them for 6 months to start as my score was 3/8 and Onc said if SE,s out weighed the positives he would take me off but now advised prob be on for two years minimum ? I have an appointment with him in December so will persevere until then and then go over it with him as im struggling on them but as you say if its beneficial in any way its got to be done , good vibes to all

Janice x

foxyferret
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Re: Hot flushes

Nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! So didn't want to hear this but yes, you are right it's a LOT better than the alternative. So I will soldier on and take every SE free day as a bonus and if and when they strike I'll deal with them.

Over in Benchland it's now known as Ta'poxy'fen and I think that says it all.
annalou24
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To foxyferret
sorry to tell you this, but I was virtually side-effect-free on Tamoxifen for the first 18 months

Now I've been on it for just over 3 years and the hot flushes are doing my head in !! I had one during a staff meeting the other week and had to take my cardigan off. I had a vest top underneath and, unfortunately, this resulted in revealing the tattoo on my upper arm ( proper one, not rads thing!). This then earned me a telling off from the Head

I also have other wonderful side effects suh as continual hunger, leg cramps and soreness/discharge down below. Gross. Have not been on this forum in ages but came on for a bit of info/solidarity re Tamoxifen and its delightfulness !!

Soldier on, ladies, it's gotta be better than the alternative...

Anna xx

mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Revcat, the last couple of nights I too have woke up again, BOILING hot!!! I thought Id conquered them for a little while, and even put my winter 9 tog duvet on!!! And the central heating!!! (Although have the radiator in our bedroom on number 3-4). Must admit, I feel a bit disheartened again. I have to admit, they are MUCH less frequent than they were, and Im even prepared to put up with them during the day, but they rally get me down during the night. And also the constipation is getting me down.
Ive got my check up with my oncology team next wednesday, so I will discuss it with them, and maybe change to something else.
So does this mean I have to be weaned off the Clonidine before I can start something else?
Mandy xx

RevCat
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Re: Hot flushes

Another week on and I am drowning in sweat again! Woke this morning to find all three chillows were not just warm but hot! Either the Clonidine is not effective for me or this is a mega flush week. Will see how it goes for another week or so than go back to GP. Slightly frustrating as you can't just stop Clonidine but have to be weaned off. Ah well, I'll keep warm as I scale Ben Nevis on Saturday!!
ChoccieMuffin
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Who was it said about the chills as well? I describe it as having a broken thermostat. Currently sat on the sofa with my hood up, under a duvet and my feet are freezing. But I know I'll be bursting into flames in a little while. I find it so wearing, as every time I burst into flames the word "CANCER" leaps to the front of my mind, and I'd really like it to fade into the background for more than an hour at a time.

I'm finding Citalopram has helped with the intensity, but I find it really weird that my arms and legs sweat. Very odd, and not good if I'm wearing certain pairs of cotton trousers, as the dark sweaty patches look most unsavoury.

Just because a drug is called a beta-blocker or an anti-depressant doesn't mean that that's the ONLY effect it has. Just like other drugs, if you're not depressed then taking an anti-depressant won't change things. (Bit like why they don't give Herceptin to HER2- ladies, because it won't do anything.)

RevCat
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That's sounding good Mandy.

OK update from the caledonian branch of the Clonidine trial!!

I have now been on 50 microgrammes morning and evening for just over a week, and it is having some benefit I think, though this would be my 'less flushy week' anyway (I seem to have an underlying cycle of something still). Days are better, but nights are still bad, and indeed more intensely flushy than ever... yuk, soggy nightwear and the duvet-hokey-cokey, so glad of my three chillows!... my duvet is a 4.5 I think, winter and summer. I am also getting some 'cold flushes' or shivers which I understand are caused in the same way as the hot ones. It is defintely colder here now, but I only knew to turn on the heat when my nose was icy cold and I began to shiver - I genuinely felt comfortable!

Hope all are well, and that your flushes do fly away soon, leaving you in peace.
mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Update.
My flushes are definately better. Dont get me wrong, I still have the odd one but nothing like they were.
But the biggest thing to inform you of is....................I have put the winter duvet on!!!! For the last 14 months we've had the 4.5 tog duvet on (even over last winter). But yesterday, I put the 9 tog one on!!!! And apart from waking up to spend a penny last night, I was fine!!!!! Maybe Im speaking too soon but so far so good!!!

Ill keep you informed!!!
Mandy xx

Mezzomamma
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Re: Hot flushes

I recently saw a US advert for a fan designed to blow cool air under bedclothes. Haven't seen them advertised here, though, and don't know how well they work. I've done the duvet hokey-cokey for years now, though it does eventually improve a bit, I promise. You wake up hot and wet with sweat, then you wake up cold and still wet. Not good.
As far as workwear goes, I think it has to be layers, with cotton next to your skin as much as possible, and 1 or 2 layers on top, say a waistcoat or light and perhaps sleeveless pullover and a jacket or cardigan that aren't too heavy. Then you just have to remember where you took them off when the chill hits and you want to put them back on. I wore 3/4 sleeves as much as possible or rolled up my cuffs, partly to avoid getting whiteboard marker and pen marks all over them, but that also seemed to help a little bit when the personal tropical moments hit.

RevCat
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Mango Chutney - I re-read the side effects leaflet for Clonidine and constiptation is listed, so it could be slowing things down for you... I just have a dry mouth and a strange, almost aniseed, taste in my mouth most of the time. Flushes a little less since the dose was increased, so we'll see what happens!!
mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Well, Im persevering on the 50mcg of Clonidine in the morning and 75mcg in the evening. I do think the flushes have reduced a lot, both in frequency and intensity. But also the weather is cooler, so im sure thats helping. But at least Im not at work with a wet top lip and forehead!!!!
Ive not been too bad at night for the last few nights either. Again this could be due to the weather.
My only side effect ive noticed, and I dont know if anyone else has noticed this, but im a little constipated on it. (It does mention this as one of the side effects). Fortunatley I eat Bran flakes every morning sprinkled with flaxseed, and eat tons of fruit and salad every day so thats stopping things getting TOO bad, but heaven knows what things would be like if I didnt eat that!!
Anyone else noticed this?
Mandy x

JCJ
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Re: Hot flushes

I've just ordered my chillows on Ebay! An original and a mini one. I suddenly had a panic that the hotel we will be staying in, in The Highlands of Scotland, at the end of October, is BOUND to be over-heated 24/7, catering, as it does, primarily for Shearings coach parties!

We keep our house quite cool by most people's standards, and let's just say I've rarely felt cold lately!!

My night-time dance is similar to Applestreet's except mine's more: Snuggle down to sleep, wake up hot, duvet off, turn face towards open window to enjoy lovely cooling breeze, doze off, wake up cold, duvet back on, snuggle down back to sleep. Repeat until the alarm goes off, usually in the spare room as the accompaniment of OH's snoring does not provide an ideal backing track!

Several ladies have said they're looking forward to winter. I'm not, because the transition between 'duvet on' and 'duvet off' might be near fatal in terms of temperature difference??! I don't think throwing off just the top layer - eg a blanket over the duvet, will have the same effect!

Also, I tend to wear jumpers at school in the winter, with a vest under only if it's really cold. Won't be doing THAT this year. Whole new 'uniform' wardrobe required: can't be throwing off jumpers left, right and centre and revealing underwear to children?! Would, at the very least lose my job, if not get arrested?
RevCat
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Re: Hot flushes

Update... three weeks in. Not seeing any significant benefit from Clonidine at 50mcg/night so spoke to my GP about what next. She said try doubling the dose to 50mcg/bd as that's still a low dose (evidently can go up 100mcg/bd) and see what happens. It's evidently not a drug she usually prescribes, so I do wonder if she'd been there when I began if she'd have suggested something else? Anyway, I'll keep checking in!

Applestreet you describe my experience perfectly! So funny.

Mango Chutney, any updates from you?
mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Applestreet
Im sitting here, laughing my head off at your night time description!!!! So funny!! And so true!!!!!!
Mandy xx

applestreet
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi

My flushes started with chemo as well and the tamoxifen has them on a scale of which vesuvius would be jealous of...get through the night doing the duvet hokey pokey...left leg in,left leg out,duvet up and down, repeat with your right....but seriously..as revcat says..anything that gives me a better chance I'll cheerfully swallow...now where's the big fan gone...

foxyferret
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Re: Hot flushes

Thanks for the replies. If I get the hot flushes I'm not really bothered, just an annoyance.
But I just wondered how long I would have to take the Tamoxifen to be sure that flushes were not going to be a SE for me.
Can they still start up after taking Tamoxifen for two months or six?

Don't worry I'm not looking for them, the only time I think of them is when I come on this site and see the thread title at the top of latest posts!!!!!!
RevCat
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi Foxy, like the others, my flushes started during chemo and carried on with the Tamoxifen. I have been on Tanmoxifen for 18 months and like Mango Churney, it's a no-brainer, I'll take it and flush any day of the week if that increases the chances of keeping the cancer at bay. I am only on clonidine because the hospital offered it, I was (and still am) willing to put up with flushes for another 3.5 years if necessary.
Hopefully you won't have them - lots of people don't, it's just that those who do tend to post about it.
JCJ
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Foxy, it was a couple of months after starting Tamoxifen for me, but mine may be caused by the Zoladex-induced menopause. It is possible, that if you've already been through the menopause, you may not get them again. Don't look out for them and they may not find you! 🙂

My flushes are annoying, but not too much of a problem at the moment. I hope it stays that way!

Next Zoladex injection due in a couple of weeks, so keep all knives and sharp/heavy implements out of reach, I can feel the rage beginning to build again! PMT-deluxe!!
mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Foxyferret, My hot flushes started during the Taxotere and they have just continued whilst on the tamoxifen. Ive been on the Tamoxifen for exactly 1 year now.
Dont get me wrong, if its a toss up between a potentially life saving drug and hot flushes, or leaving things to chance and NO hot flushes, I'm always going to go with the Tamoxifen and flushes!!
Im still deliberating over what to do about the Clonidine. Im going to give it another week or so and then contact GP to enquire about changing to something else.

foxyferret
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Re: Hot flushes

Can I ask.. How soon after taking Tamoxifen did your hot flushes start? I've just started it and nothing yet but I am not looking forward to it. I remember the night sweats from menopause a few years ago and don't want to repeat them.
mangochutney
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Update!!!
Ive been on 50mcg of clonidine in the morning and 75mcg in the evening, as my hot flushes are worse in the evening and during the night. Must admit, although there has been a reduction in the amount and intensity of the flushes overall, during the night they are still a problem. Still waking me up, despite Chillow and fan on all night!!!
Ive only been on the 75mcg in the evening for 6 days so I'll give it a bit longer. My GP gave me 2 weeks worth initially, then after phoning her last week she gave me another months worth. I think I'll give it another week and then "review the situation!"
Mandy x

RoadRunner
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi RevCat,
There are lots of other drugs to try, so if clonodine doesn't work for you ask the GP for something else. I used clonidine very successfully for six months, then it stopped working. I tried amytriptiline, but it made the flushes worse, I am now on citalopram which is working well. I finish my five years of tamoxifen next month - hurray!

RevCat
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So, for 'compare and contrast' purposes... two weeks of Clonidine 50mcg nightly... still flushing merrily!

I think some reduction in overall numbers but evening/night still pretty bad; I am melting as I type. Will speak with GP after another week to get her view about continuing and/or uping the dose and/or how to come off them (label says do not stop taking unless doctor tells you to as you can get 'rebound' effects!)
mangochutney
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi girls.
Well, I've just spoken to my gp and told her my flushes have improved since starting on the clonidine, but night times are still a problem with the flushing! She's agreed to increase my dose to 75mcg in the evening and to keep me on the 50mcg in the morning. Starting tonight!!!
Watch this space!! I'll keep you all updated!!!
Mandy xx

Zeppa
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I found the hot flushes eventually stopped, after two months at most, whenever I changed tablets (first Tamoxifen, then Arimidex, then back to Tamoxifen, then Exemestane).

grumpy
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I have seen that some ladies are thinking about taking menopausal supplements to help with hot flushes. I think it's probably a good idea to check first with your clinic, as lots of these supplements contain phyto-oestrogens (plant equivalents to oestrogen) and using them might not be sensible if your BC is oestrogen positive. Anyhow it's easy enough to check with your clinic and put your mind at rest.
grumpy

Cackles
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Re: Hot flushes

When I was a young thing and going through the menopause I used Clonidine and it helped slightly. I wore lots of natural fabrics and a fan was always in my bag. The problem with Tamoxifen is it can cause the menopausal symptoms to be more severe, although I am told that it does get better after a few years!!!! The good thing is some might say it shows the Tamoxifen is working well !!!!! There are however some antidepressants which do help, so do go and ask for your GP 's opinion .......you will not become "addicted" and they will be much more effective than Black Cohash etc I think BCC has a booklet on the subject. You can probably download it, but if you ring the Helpline they might give some additional useful advice to you. (They can also send out the factsheet.)
Rev Cat just think of the warmth you give out with each flush! So useful in cold old Glasgow churches !!
I so hope you all get some relief- it is no fun while it is happening.

RevCat
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Clonidine update!

OK now a full week in to taking my 50 micropgramme at night.

GOOD - no side effects whatsoever
LESS GOOD - still flushing and night sweating almost as much if not as much

Will complete course and speak to GP about increasing the dose to 75 microgrammes and/or twice daily. Not about to expend too much energy juggling drugs though.

Mangochutney hope it's working for you.
JL good to know the decaff worked for you, it's a really good route if it works (as is avoiding spicy food) alas not for me, that was the first thing I tried. Guess I'm just hot stuff!!!!

As my lovely BCN says 'winter is coming'!!!
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I was on tomoxifen for five years I too had very bad hot flushes and in the beginning night sweats as well. I could not resolve the former but my gp recommended trying to cut out caffeine I went on decaf tea and if it was co- incidence or not I do not know but after a couple of weeks the night sweats stopped and I have never seen them since. Today I am on femara I still incur the hot flushes so maybe I am just prone to them as a lot of ladies find they do decrease after taking the tomoxifen for a while. Good luck to all.
mangochutney
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Hi girls.
RevCat, interesting that you started on Clonidine the day after me!!!! I certainly think they have helped. (Maybe a placebo effect?!) Much more bearable, much less frequent, much less intense when they DO come.
However, as I said in my previous post, Ive still not conquered the Night time flushes. Ive got to phone my GP back on Monday to tell her how Ive gone on, and she will either put them on a repeat prescription, increase the dose if not working or change me to Venlafaxine.
To date Ive not had any side effects, and they are helping. But what I want to ask her is if maybe I could increase the dose to 75mcg in the evening, to try and suppress the overnight flushes more.
I'll keep you all posted!!! RevCat, keep me in the loop with you!!!!
Mandy xx

RevCat
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Re: Hot flushes

Hi Jay,

Clonidine is a beta-blocker not an antidepressant. I would not have asked for any drugs to address the flushes but there was a poster up at the clinic saying 'if you have night flushes speak to the doctor or nurse today!' so I did. So far I have no clonidine side effects 🙂 and they would be obvious and immediate I think.
Jay66
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Hi, I will also be following this with interest, as hot flushes are nearly driving me to drink!!... My chillow certainly helps, and really wanted to avoid medication but am getting a bit desperate, they make me so ratty and miserable.... Are these tablets anti depressants as that is all I was offered when I went to the doctor about them. XX

RevCat
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This is interesting - I too started clonidine on Wednesday but 50 microgrammes at night, as it's primarily for nightsweats. I was merrily putting up with the flushes but at my 6m breast clinic check they were actively offering it. So far I'm not entirely convinced it's working for me - possibly less flushes but no less intense when they come and may be within my cyclic variation anyway (as I type I feel the temperature rising!!).

I use a chillow and love it - am on my third having worn out the first and liking to have two to swap over when they heat up. I love my chillow and have been known to put one under my feet or on my forehead too!! Yup, mad as a hatter.

I tried taking the Tamoxifen at different times and even in two 10mg doses - for me it made no difference, but some people certainly say it works for them. Likewise some people seem to have more/less effects with different brands.

I will watch with interest how the clonidine works for MangoChutney and keep you posted on my own experiences of it.
carrie35
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Hi just a thought, have you tried tacking the tamoxifen at different times in the day to see if that helps? I take mine last thing at night to try to sleep through the effect! Might be psychological but seems to work for me x

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Ha Ha Like your username, Danica! I take it you're a Big Brother fan?
grumpy
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Yes I use a pillowcase on my Chillows, and I take the little one with me on hols, which causes much hilarity with children - 'Why has Aunty Marj got a special pillow?' These are the same children who think my tattoo dots for r/t are in the wrong places because they don't make a proper picture when joined up! Bless.....
My mattress had a memory foam layer over springs. I asked friends to sleep on it one night and tell me what it was like for them. Neither of them got a wink of sleep due to being sooo hot, so that was it, into the back of the van and off to the tip staightaway! I had to sleep in the spare room til the new mattress was delivered and it has been bliss.
The best help has been changing from letrozole to anastrozole. I do get a bit of joint stiffness so I take a joint supplement and it seems to have done the job.
all the best
grumpy

Danica
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Just to add to my above comment, when I go away for the night it upsets my routine and hard it hard to sleep as the rooms either too hot or too cold

Danica
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The best thing Iv found that worked is having your bedroom at a stable temperature, for me around 19c seems toworking for me. Openning all the windows before bed and closing them if needbe. Also I can't sleep in the same bed as my husband as he triggers them from body heat. I don't think theirs anything that willhet rid of them you just need to learn to life with them.

I used a chillow, worked for a bit but it warms up. Acupuncture did help.

Good luck everyone

mangochutney
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Thanks for everyones input.
Ive been on the Clonidine for 3 days now, and I think the flushes are a lot better. MUCH less frequent, and when I DO have them, they dont seem as hot. Although last night I woke in the night having a hot moment!!!! (They are usually at their worst in the evenings and overnight.)
Grumpy, I have wondered about my mattress. Its a sprung one with a layer of memory foam on it. BUT it is soooooooooooo comfy.
I already have a Chillow, that I keep under my pillow and drag it out in the night when needed!! Although my face ends up sweating on it due to the plastic!!!! Does anyone use a Chillow with a pillowcase on? And is it as effective?
Thanks everyone
Mandy xx

grumpy
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Re: Hot flushes

Ladies
I take AIs (letrozole, then changed to anastrozole) and had dreadful hot flushes.
Several things helped -
Junking the memory foam mattress, they reflect heat back up the body
Sleeping under 2 thin duvets/thin duvet and blanket so top layer can be thrown off
Chillows, I keep one under my pillow for night sweats and a small one under the sofa cushions for downstairs (google Chillow)
Changed to anastrozole, hardly any hot flushes more a sort of glow now and again - these drugs affect us differently apparently.
Hope this helps a bit
grumpy
PS tried venlafaxine - nightmares!!!!
Sage - check with your clinic that it doesn't contain phyto-oestrogens which are not good...

Tolliebelle
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Hi
I have had clonodine for about 6 months fine at first stopped all but a few flushes but stopped taking them 2 weeks ago as was having headaches alot! and couldnt figure out why they have completely stopped since stopped taking the clonodine not on any hormone tablets as TN so I can anly assume it was the clonodine. Am going back to GP to see if she can give me something else as hot flushes back with a vengeance!
Jill x