Very Good to see Breakthroughs status today on their Facebook Page, Big and Bold picture with BIG BOLD words saying 1,000 WOMEN , and the text , "This month 1,000 British women will lose their life to breast cancer. We want to stop this.
Thanks to you and your continued support we're making great progress in raising awareness and continuing our medical research into this terrible disease, but the tragic fact is that this disease remains the most common cancer in the UK.
Will you share this post and help us spread the word? Breast cancer is not a done deal."
Without going into Battle with another cancer charity they are getting the message out there, Come on BCC i cant see Anything on your Facebook page like this!!
The creative director's defense is just so smug and heartless. I truly do have empathy for people with pancreatic cancer--as I have previously noted, people with MBC have much in common with pancreatic cancer patients.
But the creative director just comes off as absolutely ruthless. What a tool!
It really upset me to read the creative director's explanation behind the campaign. I hope he will enjoy my rebuttal:
Edited, as was replying to Tink ,so mine doesnt make sense now. Hope your ok Tink
L x
That is very,very sad news.
Rob, I'm so sorry for your loss - my heart goes out to you and your family; you are
in my thoughts.
Love
Tink xx
Just wanted to say, I am so angry with PCA after reading that Jo, Robs wife has very sadly died earlier today, my heart truely go's out to Jo, and rob and his little girl, this time must have been made so much more difficult for Rob and his family and I hope PCA will now realize how inappropriate and disgusting this Ad campaign is, I'm sure all of us on the forum feel angered and very very sad to hear this heartbreaking news.
God Bless you all, and Rob please know that we will ALL continue to fight for breast cancer and to get this despicable Ad removed, I'm so very sorry for your loss.
Linda xx
Hello All,
I thought a united front was more likely to be the way that BCC went and I understand why.
I do feel that some of the other bc charities presented a stronger reaction/cristicism on behalf of bc sufferers and that BCC's statement was a little insipid (sorry) with its description of the campaign as 'unhelpful' and didn't actually say they disputed (Chris Askew's reaction was more like it and Delyth Morgan's) anything pca said.
Gloria Hunniford was brilliant in her interview for newsnight with Ali Stunt and really put across the disgust we feel at this AD.
I think you are right Cornishgirl, we will have to hope that the ASA responds.
I too never thought such a thing as cancer envy existed and I think for the majority of people it doesn't.
I'm not sure what to think of the last paragraph of BCC's response.
Tink x
Hi 2Catlady, Yes I've seen the new Prostate Cancer Ad on Tv over the last few days too, its been very well done , and like you say Raises Awareness of Prostate Cancer without the need to belittle other Cancers.
Well Done to them for a well thought out AD Campaign , that I'm sure will be supported by All.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yXCNKGiXoQ
L xx
Thank You BCC, I had read all those articles you have posted ,and I can understand why BCC doesn't want to get into a battle with another cancer charity , I just wish that PCA had had the same ethos and respect towards other cancer sufferers , as you say there are no preferable cancers, all are devastating and all are killers, Its very sad that breast cancer is seen by many as a "Wish for Cancer" and I don't know now how breast cancer charities are going to change that view, a very sad time for anyone who has lost friends or loved ones to this terrible disease, and for those that are currently living with terminal breast cancer.
All we can do now is hope that the ASA respond appropriately ,and reconise the deep offense and hurt that this AD campaign has caused to many many people ,and that they will uphold the many complaints ,and have the words "I Wish I Had ..... Withdrawn .
I never thought id see the day where anyone could ever express Cancer Envy.
L
Dear Everyone
Breast Cancer Care responded quickly and publicly to this campaign on its launch (3 February ) This is what we said: http://www.breastcancercare.org.uk/news/blog/response-pancreatic-cancer-action-adverts-i-wish-i-had-...
There was widespread news coverage on the campaign that week. This is a selection including our and other charity reactions. (Our comments were also referred to in a number of broadcast interviews);
The Daily Telegraph: ‘Cancer envy’ campaign won’t help survival rates
Max Pemberton column discusses the Pancreatic Cancer Action adverts and mentions attending a Breast Cancer Care talk about secondary breast cancer and highlights the impact of the disease.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10627492/The-brave-doctor-taking-on-Big-Brother.html
BBC Online: Cancer 'envy' campaign criticised
A campaign to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer has been criticised for suggesting patients wish they had other forms of the disease. Includes Breast Cancer Care’s comment from Samia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26064830
Civilsociety.co.uk: Breast cancer charities slam 'divisive' Pancreatic Cancer Action campaign
Breast cancer charities have hit out at Pancreatic Cancer Action’s advertising campaign for using the slogan ‘I wish I had breast cancer’. Includes quote from Samia and Breakthrough Breast Cancer and Breast Cancer Campaign
UK Wired News: Cancer 'envy' campaign criticised
A campaign to raise awareness of pancreatic cancer has been criticised for suggesting patients wish they had other forms of the disease. Includes Breast Cancer Care’s comment from Samia.
http://www.ukwirednews.com/news/1542870/Cancer+&%23039;envy&%23039;+campaign+criticised
Daily Mail: Anger over charity ad which says ‘I wish I had breast cancer’
A pancreatic cancer charity has sparked outrage with the poster campaign bearing the slogan: ‘I wish I had breast cancer.’
We issued our press statement and a blog on the first day that this campaign was released. We engaged with the press and media and ensured that they were made aware of our availability for any interviews.
We will not battle with any other cancer charity, because as many of you have already said, no one cancer is more or less worth having than another. Cancer in any and all of its forms is terrifying and potentially life limiting.
We will continue to provide the information and support for everyone affected by breast cancer. If you do need additional support or would just like to talk things through please do give the Breast Cancer Care Helpline a call on 0808 800 6000. Lines are open weekdays 9 to 5pm and Saturday 10 to 2pm.
We have passed on all your comments to PCA and will share any response they may provide.
We hear and recognise how important it is for women who have a diagnosis of metastasised breast cancer to have a voice and be heard. We are considering many options for secondary breast cancer awareness for 2014 and will get back to you when we have more clarity on what these may be.
To read the passion and support shared on this thread is fabulous to see, please continue to let PCA and ASA know your views and feelings.
Best wishes
Anna
Forum Coordinator
With hindsight, I don't think posting on FB was one of my better ideas and looking back the last few posts were petty. I went to bed last night thinking/feeling:
That I have no right to complain about anything so should shut up
Guilty for not dying sooner that I will be
That comapred to others I have it easy (I'd accept that I have more time)
That the world now views the rubbish pc survival rates and lack of funds as
being directly caused by bc publicity, charities and fundraising rather than the nature of the pc itself
and that breast cancer patients have survived at the expense of pc patients and that dying of pc is worse than dying of any other cancer.
I want to feel sympathy for those with pc, but everytime I see that AD and 'I wish I had breast
cancer' all I can think is I wish I bloody didn't and feel upset and then guilty for being upset.
I can't even explain properly why I'm so upset as, at this moment in time, I am better off than
those in this AD, but I know there are many who aren't and only God knows when I will join them.
Tink x
Hi Belinda/All,
I am one of the FB posters and I don't think supporters are thinking when they post in support of this campaign that they are hurting anyone and nobody will admit to causing distress to anyone even when it is pointed out to them.
There was an intersting 'debate' over statistics as someone had listened and was only looking at stage 4 stats for both groups. I ended up feeling guilty that I'm not dying quicker
I did find out that Ms. Stunt chose her statistics carefully for maximum impact.
Tink
The thing is Belinda and Tink you SHOULD'NT have to set up separate charities for MBC, why should you be locked away in a quiet corner so no one gets frightened or scared ,Breast Cancer charities need to pull their finger out and start talking about breast cancer as ONE , there shouldn't be any distinction between primary and MBC , like I said before, today's primary is tomorrows secondary, people might not like hearing the harsh realities of this disease, but harsh and real they are, and it shouldn't be brushed under the carpet, the public NEED to know the true facts of breast cancer not just the pretty side, breast cancer is ugly, and its about time people knew it.
I am as angry as you all are, Its unforgivable.
L x
Hi Cornishgirl/Mickey,
Cornishgirl, I think I have posted underneath you on FB.
The damage has definitely been done, but I think a lot of it was done before this campaign. Cornishgirl is right - the majority of posters on FB (if not all) don't have any form of cancer and their remarks and ignorance show us exactly what they think of breast cancer - pink, fluffy and easy.
Even the media think the pc patients and pca are more important or they would have asked other
cancer patients for their views in the name of balance.
Those of us on FB are trying to put our feelings forward and explain to others how things
really are, but we can only do so much. We need support.
Belinda, there are quite a few metastatic breast cancer charity groups but they are mostly american - we could really do with one for the UK.
Tink
I agree Mickey 24, Some of the attacks on there from people are unbelievable, One person said yesterday in response to a breast cancer patient that 85% of people survive breast cancer and only 15% die, how uninformed and ignorant some of these people are.
PCA said to me in a comment , (BTW Natasha who replied to Rob is representing PCA on there I know this as it came up on my notifications, ) If this campaign save one life would I still consider them cold and uncompassionate?, My reply was Yes, because in order for PCA to raise awareness and save lives they saw fit to trample on others with no respect or compassion for their suffering and deaths, Most of the people on there don't even have cancer of any form, yet they think its acceptable to attack those that do, Disgraceful charity and disgraceful comments from them all.
Am not sure if anyone knows but Sky News are doing a report on pancreatic cancer throughout the day. Catch it at approximately 10 minutes past the hour. The report includes interviews with Penny Lown, patient, and Ali Stunt, their CEO.They say a massive well done and thank you to Penny for taking part.
Great that PC are getting all this media exposure, but at who's cost?? Other Cancer Patients!. And the shocking thing is ,they really don't care !!
L x
Hi Mickey
BCC management are kept fully aware of all your thought and feelings on this topic and will, I am sure respond appropriately after the weekend.
Kind regards
Jo, Moderator
Sorry BCC - I re-checked your response and you did mention how many bc kills
Have edited my original post.
Apologies
Tink
Hi Tink, I think BCC did say Breast cancer still kills 12,000 women each year and more than 30,000 are today living with a terminal diagnosis., I agree that Team Darwin are idiots, what i take paticular issue with is "In a day, a week, or a month, all the people who were up in arms by our campaign will no longer be upset. "
A very Glib remark indeed ,
I agree with Angelfalls BCC should have been all over this from day one .
L
Hi Cornishgirl,
I read the article and I still think 'Team' Darwin are a bunch of fools:
'So our strategy from day one was to confront people with the facts. We did that by showing how it’s a situation so desperate that anything else seems more attractive.
This would be a crass approach were it not completely true.'
I really take issue with these comments and feel the same about taking this as an opportunity to
inform others about the realities of mbc.
We haven't done very well with our campaigns so far if people think that 85% of breast cancer patients are cured - and many of them do.
Will BCC consider some form of educational awareness strategy?
Tink
That's a good point Tink, I don't think breast cancer charities have to go up against PCA, but rather use this opportunity to get secondary breast cancer out there, For instance, BCC could highlight the fact that it was because of PCAs new Ad campaign with the recent taglines, "I Wish I Had Breast Cancer" that it has highlighted a very important issue , in how little awareness is actually known about breast cancer and more importantly how little is known about secondary breast cancer , and that it had become apparent through the Ad that the perception of Breast Cancer is often seen by many as a curable disease, or a good cancer to have. This sadly is not the case , Then breast cancer charities can begin much needed awareness campaigns for MBC, get people talking about it ,and get some proper facts and figures out there.
I was reading the Team Darwins response to the AD campaign, and it seems in this new found era of charities struggling to get funds, that being Bold and useing Shock Tactics and Emotions is the way to get the message across to raise more awareness and funds. I think breast cancer charities for far too long have avoided the difficult issues , and focused far too much on the good news stories , of course we all want to hear the good news stories ,the strides made in breast cancer, but we mustn't do this at the expense of brushing away the dark side, just because it may be upsetting and shocking to see, the public need to know that breast cancer is far from curable ,and far from being an easier form of cancer to have.
I don't like what PCA has done its repugnant and extremely insensitive to others who are dying of this disease ,but I think in the future in order for cancer charities to get a slice of the pie we will see more and more charities useing the same shock tactics. If we do nothing, then breast cancer will be seen as a wish for cancer , we desperately need to do something to get the message out there that it really isn't. .
Food for thought BCC?
L
Hi Everyone,
Another thought occurred to me about why some breast cancer charities may not want
to 'get into' this issue. Cancer charities present a united front. If a breast cancer charity
goes up against a pancreatic cancer charity this could be seen as divisive (as if pca's campaign hasn't already done that for patients) and that is not something I think that any charity would want.
Just a thought
Tink x
I hope I'm wrong, but it is possible that many breast cancer charities will not want to publicise the stark facts concerning breast cancer in case it scares people.
Please BCC - this your opportunity to help MBC patients to be heard.
Tink
Agree with Belinda , we need a swift response and please be Bold BCC and don't hold back, the public need to know that breast cancer isn't "a cancer to wish for", the continuing comments on PCA facebook page are absolutely terrible, one person commented " A Dirty fight needed to be waged, other cancers have been sidelined for too long"
Ali Stunt and Team Darwin are saying the campaign is working as they now have over a 200% increase in web traffic so was worth it , (Though suspect much of that increase is from angry BC patients) They also said the "Action" in Pancreatic Cancer Action, isn't there for nothing. They say in One Day, One Week, One Month, breast cancer patients will get over it, These are just a few of the awful insensitive and extreamly uncompassionate comments made at breast cancer patients suffering and expense,
I hope the ASA uphold the many complaints, but as I said earlier, the damage has already been done, they put out the message to the public that breast cancer is a good cancer to have, with a high survival rate, (meaning 85% are CURED to the general Public) Its now out there, and can't be taken back, so if this is now going to be the general publics perception, why will people now bother even giving donations to breast cancer?.
Don't let this opportunity go BCC , the time is Now for Secondary breast Cancer Awareness , with some real facts and figures about some of the true realities of this terrible disease
L
Evening all,
I have just been trawling over at FB and was thinking about what to post in reply to a
particularly millitant supporter of the campaign and decided to comment that what pancreatic cancer
action have failed to acknowledge (apart from the hurt) is that it is all the other cancer patients who are hurt by this campaign who have paid the price for the success of it.
If they get more funding and awareness it is because of breast cancer/testicular cancer and cervical cancer patients, many of who are dying, and I feel that this should be recognised by pca and also pointed out to the public.
To construct/support a campaign that can only succeed on the pain and misery of others is heinous
imo and Ms. Stunt should be held to account.
I also agree that this is an opportunity to widen public understanding of MBC as there are a lot of
misconceptions on the social forums.
Tink