Oh it is full of hippies, the kind that do the whole alternative thing.... wholefoods, organic, tree dwelling/hugging, Yoga thing 😄
Not personally my cup of Redbush Tea LOL.
Not all of them smoke the spliff - though many do! Ha ha. Wouldn't know, never done it myself in the past 😉 *ahem*
Raw food all the time? You'd need to be high to deal with a diet consisting of only raw food - ha ha ha.
You know I resist too much of the health thing because it really doesn't suit don't you? I'd love someone to come on here and say "hey, eat a diet of cream cakes, white wine, meat and chocolate and you'll be cured forever and live til you're 100"
I thought that Hebby was full of hippies. It'll be all the spliffs that finish them off ;o)
Actually I really met a person who changed their diet to raw food and cannabis and reckoned that it had cured their secondaries.
Ha ha, pistols at dawn 😉
I'm just a bit sceptical about what difference it can really make to a recurrence or new lump, once you've already HAD cancer.
I agree that having a lot of fruit/veg/wholefoods is overall generally good for people and I have a lot of these, but I also have a lot of cr*p too.
Having plenty of Anti Oxidants makes sense.
I don't know, I just don't think it would make a huge difference to make it worth while adopting such a harsh regime on yourself.
I for one couldn't do it and the *expense* of it all.
Each to their own obviously.
I just know a lot of people in Hebden Bridge (Which you may well have heard of) who live alternative lifestyles and are organic veges etc, meat eaters etc, still have a host of medical issues, die young etc.
Kat - handbags at dawn on the Ainley Top roundabout - we'll settle this discussion like men ;o)
Ha ha Kat - just venture onto the research on diets thread for the answer to your first question ;o)
Sweetie - your mum was just unlucky - some heavy smokers live to be 90 - it doesn't make it good for you. They just built them with iron-clad lungs. My guts are sh*gged, too (Crohn's) but they'd be far worse with a processed food diet and I'd prolly have needed surgery.
Ninja - But how many people are going to follow the whole organic unprocessed everything route if they haven't already been doing that?
I hate to say this, but my Mum was a Vegetarian for 25 years, and Organic for as long as it's been available and she died of Bowel Cancer, in fact it was a running joke that she should have gone and had a McDonalds because it'd probably kill it all off.
This is cancer, I'm fairly sure once it's got its grip once that there isn't really much you can do to stave it off if it's going to return - other than the nasties like chemo/hormone therapies etc.
Again, not an expert 😉
Before diagnosis I was taking some supplements which I have continued throughout my treatment, surgery, chemo and rads. Each specialist I saw knew what I was taking and said it was OK. I had to stop some of my prescription meds as they interfered with the chemo and radiotherapy.
Same as El Katrano - make sure you tell the medical team treating you what you are taking. They will pretty soon tell you if they want you to stop. Multivitamins and antioxidants should be OK.
All the best with your chemo- hope your side effects are minimal.
"As for not putting anything artificial in - theres so much cr*p in every day processed food that I can't imagine the casings on pills to make much of a difference? "
Fresh organic, ethically-sourced fruit, meat and veg aren't processed food. All artificially processed food/vitamin supplements are full of crap. You pays your money, you takes your choice.
"I felt surprisingly good throughout my chemo so they must have done some good?"
I feel surprisingly good on Tax and I don't take any artificial vitamin supplements. Surely the avoidance of them must have done some good?
I asked about vitamins and they said take what you want but let us know what you're taking?!
As for not putting anything artificial in - theres so much cr*p in every day processed food that I can't imagine the casings on pills to make much of a difference?
I don't know much about any of it. Once again it shows the different things we all get told by our Oncs/BCNs.
I took multivitamins, vitamin C and green tea capsules because i was told green tea was good to take. I felt surprisingly good throughout my chemo so they must have done some good? I did ask if it was OK to take then and was told it was fine. I've stopped taking them no though as I read some vitamin supplements can effect how radiotherapy works, so better safe than sorry. It's always best to double check.
Mine was in the chinese buffet at the weekend. I haven't been for years.
Food under hot lamps, check. King prawns, check. Pint of lager, check. Whoops!
Don't blame, you, Elttiks - my Oncy is superb with a nice dry sense of humour but deffo NOT a person to argue with!
El Katrano, ToffeeLumpyBumpy& Ninja many thanks for your responses and kind words, as a newbie you do wonder if anyone will respond to your messages.
I like the idea of using Garlic to help the immune system - I hope hubby feels the same way!!!! and to know that I am also warding off any passing vampires is an extra benefit.
Hope you are all doing OK and thanks again
The Herbals lady and Nutritionist from the Haven both said to NOT take any artificial supplements when on chemo.
Improve your diet to get vitamins the natural way. Which of course is what we should be doing anyway.
Capsules have stuff surrounding them and tablets have stuff like magnesium stearate as fillers etc etc. Basically they said not to put anything artificial in the body.
One of the docs, when I was in StalagLuft 2, said it was best not to drink tap water due to the additives used to filter out the sh*t, too, and to stick to spring water if poss.
My chemo nurse told me that if i'm not taking vitamin supplements now, don't start. They can provide B12 if I need them. I'm not sure why she said it, but as they are the experts i'm not really going to argue!
I was anxious too, some people have very few side effects, some people have them all, just do what you can 🙂
Personally I take Vitamin B12 and B6 for energy, VItamin D as there's some studies into that for breast cancer, Calcium for my bones, Omega 3 Fish Oils (can't remember what that does now, whoops).
I think having a lot of Garlic can help the immune system?
Other people may have better advice than me 🙂
Good luck xxxx
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I have been lurking on this site now for a couple of months and it has been a great source of information and comfort, but decided to now take the plunge as I have just found out the date of my first chemo session...
I am, of course, worried and a little anxious of what is going to happen and how I will feel after them so have been looking at getting some mutlivitamins to boost my immune system and also to feel that I am doing something actively towards this rather than just taking everything that seems to be chucked at me through this process (I hope this makes sense I apologise if it doesn't)..
So can I ask what vitamins/minerals would everybody suggest and am I OK to take antioxidants?
Any help / advice would be gratefully received.
As a background I have just turned 40, with two beautiful boys of 8 and 4, diagnosed in April 2011 had lumpetacy (sorry about spelling!) and SNB, which had 2 affected nodes went onto have full clearance all of which were clear/unaffected. Cancer confirmed as Triple Negative.