Hi Ruth
What a restrictive diet ! I've had more digestive probs this second round with awful trots and wind which was totally diff to first round when horribly constipated! I think I may try rice today although at the moment I have thrush and it's making it hard to swallow. On pills but slow to work.Sorry you're missing your parents so much but glad you've got your daughter's home coming to look forward to. I threw a wobbly this morning when my husband announced that he has to go to India for work on Sunday for a week. I'm so scared I'll end up in hospital again without his support. Never used to be such a wimp! Also concerned as every time he goes there he comes home ill/ sick ! Hope we both have a stress free day and everyone else on this forum . Gill X
Hi Ladies 🙂
gmc and ladycroft, thank you for your anniversary wishes , ladycroft you sound just as soppy as me over cats ! I have two, they are brother and sister and 9 years old. Their names are Minstrel and muffin and we got them from a rescue centre.
Wax2014 - Interesting to read that you are suffering with digestive issues as well as me. I have not been able to eat normally since the beginning of my chemo. Yesterday I ate a packet of fruit pastilles and boy did I suffer later. It seems my palate will only tolerate the high energy diet I have been put in which consists of white bread/rice and potato...so boring and if I deviate with a sauce or dare to eat veg or fruit, the diahorrea returns with a vengeance.
I went back to the hospital for a 2nd check up on my port scar yesterday which still isnt completely healed, but they are adamant that they are happy with it, so I guess I will just have to live with it.
I have been on a bit of a down week this week.Dealing with not seeing eithe rof my parents who are holed up in hospital and a care home is difficult , but my uni daughter comes home today :)) xx Ruth xx
Day 10 of round 2 , slept for 5 hours without a pee ! and feel relatively normal today. So if this is going to be a pattern (would that it were so easy) its day 5 to 9 that are the feeling rough days . Looking forward to getting on with things now.
Morning Ladies,
Whoops ! Committed the cardinal sin of forgetting the date today, which is our wedding anniversary....26 years ! I obviously KNOW the date and had a card ready, but my brain is addlled and I didn't realise the date ! Ah well, hubby forgave me 🙂 What a difference to last year, we were in a 5 star hotel in the cotswolds celebrating our silver.
Feeling slightly better today, the nausea appears to have abated. but going to ring the hodpital as 8 weeks on , my portacath scar still doesn't look healed. I am farting for England on this high energy diet of white rice/bread and potato, but it does seem to deal with my bowel and digestion problems.
Three more colleagues have announced they have breast cancer , its amazing how common it appears to be.
I hope you are all well and coping. xx Ruth xx
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Hi; well, that;s the bank holiday over.....we had glorious weather today in Devon....I love the sun, but sat in the shade, as it seems that even our skin is more sensitive!I am glad that I am going through this ordeal in the summer though......imagine it being the winter, and cold and dark and constantly raining....yuk! At least I feel I can justify sitting in my garden and doing nothing! Today I gave myself a pedicure!!! Ok, not that amazing! However, to me it was - because I don;t normally take such good care of myself - and it made a great difference to how my feet look and feel! I am also trying to take good care of my skin - I guess its a bit of a control-issue,at least I can have control over some of my body - whilst my gut just does its own thing and is totally out of control!
I've always been so busy looking after other people that I have never really looked after myself very well....and having this has made me somehow value myself more.......we all should value ourselves more!I am finding that I can only eat food which looks really nice and so am taking extra care about presentation - whereas before I would just eat whatever was quick and easy (and cheap) - but now I am making sure that the food I eat is good quality and attractive.
Jj1981 - I understand how long the days can seem....and you seem to be very concerned about the cancer having spread. I truly hope that the investigations put your mind at rest. My hospital has a day drop-in place for cancer clients, with activities (such as craft-groups) happening-does your hospital possibly have something similar? I quite enjoy it, and its reassuring to be with people with similar difficulties sometimes.
Rosie, hope your chemo goes well on Thursday, and that this is a good week for us all.......
Hi ladies and Gill im sorry to hear your feeling a little blue today, its part of the territory but just remember you ahve to go down to come back up, so hopefully over soon, upping your omega 3s helps such as alnuts peanuts or almonds it affects the serotin levels which control moods xx
Ive been more on our fb page as i cant access this properly on my phone as its so rubbish. Have had a good weeka nd appetitie good ready for the none eating enxt week. Ive found eating watermelon good and like yourselves plain rice and chicken and new potatoes to fiull me up and im ok with green veg, red veg and purple and red fruits which they say are full of antioxidants and good for you. (not sure what anti oxidants are or if ive even splet it write).
I had nausea for about 10days so will mention to the nurse when i go for my 2nd session on weds as the tablets i have havent worked. I took ended up with windy tum and found lucozade helped me burp and indegestion would then clear. Funny tum for about a week as well but its just settled down so prop will happen again this time. As its half term ive arranged for my teenager to absent from home for a few days and stay at a friends so i cna just do my own thing in my own time. I had to steer clear of dairy until the last few days but have managed to drink tea last couple of days which has been good. Toast and marmite is a huge staple in my home at the moment and watermelon for when im fed up with water. Ive been ok with fruit but seem to ahve put all the weight i lost back on again this week.
Ive been out with my hairpiece today but will post on my fb. Does anyone know how you stop the email notifications as i had loads today
Hope al those feeling rough will improve soon and hello to all the new people
take care chat soon
Lucia x
Hi Ladies,
Seems like we're all going through it at the moment. You poor ladies with the awful "runs" problems. With the opposite problem I'm finding the movicol is keeping it in check.
Jj1981 - I do feel for you and what you're going through. When I had awful constipation and finally managed to go it made a small tear (**bleep** Fissure). This resulted in after a bowel motion excruciating pains in the coccyx area. I was told this is because the rectum goes into spasm which can last for hours but taking pain killers really helped. Who's have believed we would ever be sharing such intimate details -thank God for this forum!
Ruth , I quite understand your muddled head- mine is much the same and I too struggle with names and the time to keep posting.Hopefully you will dip into facebook again when you're feeling more up to it.
Ladycroft, I always love your inspirational words always tinged with such a streak of humour. Not feeling like a very brave woman today though. Bit weepy and pathetic really.
Cathy, like you have re-discovered reading - especially some rather trashy novels! Nothing high brow for me - bring on the Jilly Coopers! I do miss my evening whisky but can't bear the thought of the taste of it yet - and if I can fall down the stairs stone cold sober I dread to think what a drink would result in !
Love wine - thanks for your input - so good to hear from someone who's a little ahead and can give a pointer in the right direction.
Have a good if soggy Bank Hol Mod everyone. My daughters and grandchildren are at a very wet Donkey Derby!
Gill X
Hi Ladycroft,
Thank you for your support it means alot xx
I have come off the f/book group ladies as I am getting completely confused with my addled brain, about who is who here and on there, so don't take offence please 🙂 I am having such disrupted sleep that its all I can do to cope with posting here :))
Just having a lazy day here....again :)) xx Ruth xx
Oh Ruth , I feel for you. I'm hoping that the Taxol will be easier on the tum. I have never been a sicky type even during pregnancy and working at sea for 4 years I was never sesasick. I don't get food poisoning or anything normally ( extreme alcohol maybe but that's like bi annually in France ! ) But this constant gurgling is doing my head in . Just had ginger tea and toast so that seems to have settled me, trouble is I don't want to eat as not hungry but if I don't .....
I feel very priviliged to be a part of a group with so many strong women who are just taking this in their stride and coping .Wonder how a men's forum would sound like ? lol
Looks like a soggy BH here ,they had our carnival yesterday to fool the weather which worked but most people didn't know that the day had been changed!
And remember
When 'I' is replaced by 'WE' Illness becomes Wellness ! My thought for today , all together now 'We're all in this together etc 🙂
Hi JJ1981
Welcome to the BCC disucssion forums where I am sure you will get lots of good, honest support from the many informed users of this site. Our helpline team are also at hand to give you that added support both emotionally and practically, but unfortunately as it's the Bank Holiday is closed until tomorrow morning at 9am - 5pm (weekdays 9-5 Saturdays 10-2) calls are free, 0808 800 6000.
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Hi Everyone,
Famous last words ! Diahorrhea hit with a vengence again yesterday...maybe because I relaxed and had some chocolate plus a rhubarb fool. I am already on emend and 2 other anti nausea tablets, but they are not combating it this time. I think I am just going to have to resign my self to the fact that I am going to endure digestion issues throughout the FEC , hopefully not through 12 x taxol too.
My sis -in-law popping over today to really crop my hair.I have had 2 cold caps and whilst it isn't fallin gout in clumps, I am certainly shedding alot of loose strands.Ihave already resigned myself to losing the hair but the nurses persuaded me to try the cold cap for a while, at least it will shorten my chemo sesison by one and half hours if I opt to shave my hair off !
I am fasting for 48 hours now, as I found it was th eonly way to kick the bowel probs into touch last time...oh joy !
I hope everyone else ok xx Ruth xx
Hi everyone
I was diagnosed in March and had lumpectomy seen weeks ago. Had my first FEC of six two weeks ago and due next one on Friday. Apart from slight nausea and feeling shivery not too many side effects from last time. In fact last week I actually started worrying that maybe chemo isn't working and that I might be resistant to it.
Hair started falling out last Wednesday evening and is nearly all gone. My scalp has been really sore so I have cut what was left to about an inch long to stop it pulling. Wore my wig out today as hair looked dreadful. Felt quite self conscious but it was ok although sore scalp meant I was glad to take it off.
Think I'vve got away lightly compared to some of you. Wondering how much worse the second round is going to be. Best wishes to you all. x
Hi, Sodastream/Sheryl - please let me know how to join the face-book link, thanks Cathy
gmc So sorry to hear of your accident! Just what you didn;t need.......
Hope the pain is subsiding and that you are finding things to eat?/drink?
I think that I will ask for Emend next time - as, even when I am well, my gastric-tract is my weak-spot! Nausea gone now to be replaced by acid-reflux
Anyway, good to be back in the land of the living! Energy returning, and I have to take care not to do too much, as I have a tendency to go a bit mad and start digging the garden, etc. etc. and knackering myself....but, I have rediscovered reading - something I used to love, but for years have only done on holiday, and am reading trashy light novels....and enjoying them.....
I am going to really try hard to give up alcohol during this ordeal, and then not drink in the future! I have consumed too much wine over the years, and feel that now would be a good time to pack it in....so, watch this space!
Wishing everyone well, and thanking you all for being on this site - a real support to have contact with so many brave and lovely women
Morning Ladies
Hobbling around today but lack energy . Day 3 after second chemo and feeling a bit more nauseous than before. Not sure if it's the slimy feeling in my mouth or the lack or taste buds making me feel like this. Everything tastes like cardboard!
At least the sun is shining.
Gill X
Hello Everyone,
Just checking in to catch up with you all.
GMC - sorry to hear of your fall I hope you get better soon.
Sodastream good to hear you are back at home again.
Wax2014 - I am suffering with nausea and indigestion this time round as well, not sleeping at all well at night then cat napping during the day.
I am missing a family 60th wedding family lunch today as I really don't want to sit there watching other people eating as it turns my stomach and I find I feel nauseous at the slightest smell or taste. I have a friend coming round to see me though 🙂 At the moment I am snacking when hungry and sleeping when tired but I don't have any energy to do much. I hope taxol x 12 is going to be less hassle than this FEC business ! Ah well 2 Fec down two to go.
Enjoy the bank hol weekend ladies xx Ruth xx
Hi rosie14,
I am now on Fec number 2 day 6.No diahorrhea so far for this one, but did really suffer badly with it during my 1st Fec. This time I am struggling with nausea and indigestion, load sof burping going on ! I have 3 different anti sickness meds to try and combat this, but its obviously going to be a weak point with me.
I have been eating white bread with marmite, toasted white muffins, white rice or new potatoes with chicken. Its difficult to know what to eat as I buy something, then start eating it, then change my mind and leave it ! It remonds me of morning sickness when pregnant ! I have been told to steer clear of dairy but have been having some fruit for the first time in weeks 🙂
Sorry to hear you ar ealso battling with shingles. My dad has left hospital and is now in a rehab home until he is fit enough to deal with his repaired hip, and my siblings and I are looking into assisted living for him as he is still very independent.My mum is in a specialst dementia home and will stay there now as we cannot cope with her any longer on our own. I haven't been able to visit eithe rof them as my murses said steer clear of both places due to germs and coming up to my 2nd week post fec when I hit the wall last time. I also feel very tired and lack energy. xx Ruth xx
Hi 23 Dec
You have some cracking ideas which I will take note of - especially the bovril as sick of ribena and water. Elderflower cordial hits the spot with me too. Before your next chemo or even now you could contact them and tell them that the anti sickness tablets aren't helping 'cos I've read other ladies have been given much more powerful ones to combat the nausea.
I have been really stupid today. On day 2 of second round of Chemo and not feeling too awful - yet. Came downstairs carrying washing and books and couldn 't see the bottom of the stairs. Resulted in missing the bottom two stairs, landing on my ankle which was agony and became very swollen immediately. Husband took me to A & E , fast-tracked on flashing my chemo card and x-rayed. Thankfully no bones broken so sent home on crutches with instructions to rest, elevate foot and ice packs! More reliant on Ian's good nature than ever now and all my own stupid fault! The Dr did tell me to be extra carefull as we have more brittle bones when having chemo ! Whoopy do !
Another little gem I've been told is to always wash the top of tins before opening them to stop any germs getting into the food and never store opened cans in the fridge -decant into something else - especially during our low immunity days.
Have a good evening everyone, Gill
Hi, all...
Ladycroft - as to what helps with nausea....I don;t know! I had to walk out of a shop the other day because I couldn;t bear looking at food!!!! - but, here I am on day 6 of first chemo and feeling sort of human again! The nausea has been replaced by dreadful acid-reflux, and I am taking Gaviscon for that, only, I don;t like to take it too often, as I believe that your stomach can create more acid to overcome the Gaviscon-effect and create a viscious cycle.
I find that all of the nourishing, healthy food that I filled my freezer with prior to chemo 1 is still sitting there, as I don;t fancy any of it.....I find that I am wanting very light stuff - chicken, Chicken Bovril I suddently remembered, and bought, and that is nice and light and tasty.....Toast and marmite is a life-saver and I poached an egg and had that on top of the toast and Marmite - nice! Little and often seems best. Ginger biscuits, ginger pop, tonic-water (helps me to belch, which I;m not very good at doing, and when I can it relieves the acidity) Picked some mint leaves and parsley and infused them in hot water and drank that......Weetabix with fruit is nice - with very cold skimmed milk - can;t really stand the thought of milk......
It worries me enormously that I seem to have had a parrticularly nauseous time....and this is only the first round, and I hear that it worsens.....is that really so? Will future chemos be more nauseating do people think, and, if so, what advice do you have?
Wishing all a good bank holiday, hoping you can all take it easy. I am fortunate there, in that I live alone, so no-one to have to look after, children, etc.....I truly take my hat off to all of you who have these additional responsibilities.
Morning, ladies, just dropping in from February...
GMC, re steroids: I have had serious problems with nausea all through (FECx6) and they increased my dose of steroids to last well into week 2 to help with this. But after 5 days they are on a reducing dose: the oncology nurse was absolutely insistent on this being kept to, and wrote out a list of how many to take at what time of day, so I got the impression that stopping suddenly was a very bad idea... Good luck.
Hi, just thought I'd pay a quick message on here as I've been using the Facebook site a bit more, find it a lot easier to keep track of the messages etc on there I must admit...
I'm now on Cycle 2, Day 4 and am just getting over the full blown sickly feeling... I did have a horrible headache again for 2 days that I couldn't shift despite drinking loads of water, doors anyone else suffer with this?
Hope you are all doing OK, Kate/x