Hi Janine
Iām so sorry itās taken me so long to reply - please forgive me!
How are you doing now? Have you been given your treatment plan and an idea of what to expect? The emotional ups and downs are a massive part of this and the psychological aspect of breast cancer cannot be underestimated so donāt give yourself a hard time for not always feeling like youāre ācopingā - if there was ever a time to give yourself a free pass to be a mess, as well as lots of TLC, itās now!
So hard when children and grandchildren are involved, isnāt it - you want to be strong for them but they just want you to let them look after you! So I really hope that youāre letting them. Itāll make them feel better, too.
I canāt believe that itās been 4 months since I started this thread. Itās gone so quickly despite feeling like it would never end. Iāve had two rounds of surgery (lumpectomy and again to get clear margins) and am due to begin radiotherapy on the 16th Jan. Iāve also started tamoxifen, which Iām really not enjoying, but everyone is different. Still feels like itās happening to someone else.
Iād love to hear how youāre getting on if you want to share (but only if you want to).
In the meantime, big hugs!
xxx
Hi Donna
My turn to apologise for the late reply! I hope you had a lovely Christmas and that this new year brings lots of wonderful things your way.
š„³CONGRATULATIONSš„³ on finishing treatment (apart from tamoxifen obvs) - thatās really wonderful! Iām so pleased for you. Youāre so strong and positive but I know how much energy goes into keeping that going - respect! ā¤ļø
I hope that school is going well and that youāre not too exhausted by the new job on top of radiotherapy, even now itās finished, as I appreciate the fatigue can really linger and it does sound like it wasnāt altogether unpainful for you!
My radiotherapy (4 weeks worth, like you) begins on the 16th January - as if January could be any yukkier. But, come Feb, Iāll pop out the other end like a tiny newborn lamb, ready for some gambolling! Iāve got to admit that Iām finding the tamoxifen hard going though - mood swings a go-go with awful low mood at times. Plus the sweats. And the insomnia. Iāll give it a few months but if the side effects donāt improve then I canāt see myself sticking with it for 10 years for just a tiny percentage of improvement in long term outcome. Just want this all to be over and to feel human again - right now Iām doing a good impersonation of a very tired Creature From The Black Lagoon. I donāt know how you manage to work as much as you do cos even just a few hours plus domestic stuff leaves me utterly wiped out.
Talking of which, I could really go a nap right now! š
Big hugs to you xxxxxxxx
Very welcome š. A book which was recommended to me on the forum is "The complete guide to Breast Cancer" really useful for all questions and lots of practical tips...it also makes you realise how treatable it is! Sara x
Sara, thank you SO much for your reply - it has helped me enormously!
I go between terrified to āIāll be okā to grieving for my previous good health - all within a few minutes!
The wait between diagnosis and plan (next week) has been agonising and Iām putting a brave face on it for everyone....thatās exhausting! Of course, at night and early mornings is the time when I can no longer distract myself š
Iāll certainly keep you posted and - once again - thank you SO much x
Hi Nannyof2
Sorry to find you here but also pleased you've reached outš. I think the absolute worse time is in the first week or 2 after diagnosis, your mind goes into overdrive and imagines every possible scenario. I think most of the ladies here would agree that nights and early mornings are the hardest. I actually asked my doctor to prescribe sleeping tablets for the first few weeks which really helped me cope. I was diagnosed mid Nov, had mastectomy 12th Dec(it really is very manageable) and will be given full details of treatment plan 6th Jan. A couple of things which helped me to deal with the anxiety were....calling the breast nurses on here with questions, please don't Google as you will find stuff that terrifies you and won't even be relevant, ask to be referred for the "someone like me" programme, try keeping a diary, when I'm having a wobble it helps to look back at previous entries to know that I can cope! Take one day at a time, I know it's a cliche but it's SO trueš. Keep reminding yourself that "thoughts are not facts" atm you have no idea what treatment looks like and that's the most difficult part, once things start moving forward it gets easier to manage the emotional side of things. Let us know how you get on. Sending loveā¤. Sara
Sorry to hear this but please try to not be scared. Itās so beatable and once you know what youāre dealing with we will be here for you to advise and listen ā¤ļø If it makes you feel better I found recovery from surgery not too bad It took probably four weeks to heal but only two weeks where it was painful etc but manageable pain I wasnāt at work as it was school holidays ( Iām a teacher ) but I probably could have worked if I needed to. Iāve just had radiotherapy so can put your mind at rest about that but not chemo as I didnāt have it. Radiotherapy made me tired but that was the Driving to the appt every day for four weeks / I worked every day during it and was absolutely fine. Iām now recovered and although tender the redness has gone already and Im not too tired at all. I know weāre all different but I think it helps to hear different stories. If you have any questions just ask. Youāre not alone xx I hope this has helped a little. Donna xx
Hi everyone,
Thank goodness I found you all!
I was diagnosed with breast cancer just before Xmas, which really floored me....no biopsy results yet, but 99.9% sure of what it is from the images š
Im finding the nights really scary and first thing in the mornings - I live alone and trying to keep a brave face on!
Iām desperate to know whether itās possible to work through chemo, how sick Iāll feel, how quickly Iāll recover from breast surgery (I need to work if possible)....
SO many questions - Iām sorry! X
Hi Cirrus
I'm in your boat, just been told I have breast cancer. I'm so sorry.
It's a strange feeling isnt it. One minute I'm strong and coping, the next I'm a mess. Seeing my 3 children crying was so hard. I also have 2 grandchildren.
Another reason to fight it.
Let's hope we are both able to kick its butt.
Lots of love.
Janine
Hi lovely. Sorry so long since I messaged. I have finished my four weeks of radiotherapy and although tiring driving there every day after work it wasnāt as bad as I thought. Iām now relaxing and finally unwinding after a long journey. If you have any questions about the treatment just ask ! Iām sore and a little red but apart from that itās healing and i can finally move on from this chapter. Sorry they didnāt get clear margins but better to make sure and to go back in. I hope youāre now recovered xx merry Christmas to you and your family and keep us posted. Xxx šŖšŖšŖ
Hey there,
I have also just been diagnosed and I am a single parent to a 15 year old boy, I have told him mainly because I have alot more family and friends visiting me than usual.... I cannot lie it was a distressing thing to do having to tell him but I am so glad that it is out in the open, I hope that you can find it within yourself to tell your daughter I am sure that she will want to help you in any way she can, I now have my son helping me more around the house and etc x
Hi Donna!
Great to hear from you! Sorry, Iāve only just seen your post. How did radiotherapy go yesterday? How are you doing, generally? š
Iāve been a bit floored by a second round of surgery a few days ago. They didnāt get anywhere near the clear margins they needed first time around. I donāt seem to fare that well with general anaesthetic so have mostly been in bed since the op on Friday feeling pretty grim plus the actual surgery feels bigger this time. Sorer. Yuk.
Anyway, Iām just glad theyāre being so thorough! š¬ Results (again) in 3 weeks
Cirrus Xxx
How are we all doing ladies ? Sorry for delay in posting. Started new role so been mad busy. I start radiotherapy Tuesday so will keep you updated on that progress. Sending hugs to all ā¤ļø You can do this ! Xxxx
Hi Karen
Iām so sorry to hear that youāve joined this club and am sending you a very big hug - but youāre in the right place for lots of great support and information. Thank you so much for your kind words. ā¤ļø
Waiting for results is absolutely horrible - the worst! I donāt know if your team gave you any indication about a probable diagnosis at your last appointment, but until you get those results, itās very, very hard to keep it all together. I remember going in to get mine, ten days after I was told I 99% definitely had breast cancer (a complete bolt from the blue) and my legs were like jelly and I could barely catch my breath. Youāre in limbo right now, arenāt you and itās really hard to stay positive when you donāt know what youāre facing.
Iām a couple of months further down the line from you (I canāt believe Iām even writing those words) and have had a lumpectomy and a sentinel node biopsy - and I get the results from the surgery...today! So, back to the waiting game. Youāre not alone on this dark November morning and I hope it helps to know that - your diagnosis and situation are unique to you but weāre all here rooting for each other from our own places of fear and hope.
Please let us know how you get on at your results appointment. Iāll be thinking of you.
xx
Hi there
I have just been diagnosed on28.10.19 and Iām also very scared. Feels like no mans land just now while I wait for further test results to find out what order my treatment will be. Doing my best to stay positive and my work being very supportive. Your not alone in your fear and Iām sure this forum will help us on our journey. Good luck x
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All fabulous news, Donna! Great to hear that youāre so positive and feeling so good. Very inspiring. Let me know how your rads go.
You are a mighty warrior! šŖšā¤ļø
xxxxx
Hi lovely. Glad you enjoyed your holiday and surgery done !!!! The numbness is weird isnāt it ! I still have a numb booby but underarm much better so trust me it goes get much better ! I have my oncology on Tuesday next week so will have my dates etc to start radio š» will update you once I know. Iāve been back to work three days a week and start back full time 28th so will juggle my three weeks Of treatment around work as I fully intend to keep going. Iāve heard mixed reviews regarding radio so I will play it by ear and see what happens !!! Feeling good as well and breast healed really well and keep slapping the bio oil on and scars fading. Let me know whatās next for you and look after yourself. Will be back next week with update ššŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖšŖā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø Donna xxx
Hi Donna! So sorry for the silence - I got tied up in domestic stuff before getting away on holiday on the 1st Oct (which was fab!) and then came back from hols on Friday and had my surgery 2 days later!
So, yes, I had the surgery on Monday. All seemed to go ok although I had a wire put in at 8am (which I found pretty unpleasant) and then wasnāt taken into theatre until 3pm! It was a long day and my surgeon was changed at the very last minute too. So, no lipofilling for me after all which, now Iām dealing with post surgery pain and horrible under arm numbness, Iām kind of grateful about because I think the pain and lack of mobility from lipofilling would have been too much. Can always get it another time if need be. But, god, this numbness is really horrible. Yuk, yuk, yuk!!!
Have you had any more feedback since your last consultation? Sounds like youāve absolutely made the right choice with the chemo. Why put yourself through that if you donāt need to! How are you feeling now? Are you doing ok?
Sending love xxx
Thank you !!! Had the most seriously dashing handsome doctor ever !!! Swoon swoon and boobies out !!!!! As seen as young and fit they offered me everything including a trial with chemo. I looked at statistics and no evidence to show any benefit for this at all with our type of breast cancer so Iām saying NO ! Iām having radiotherapy, hormone treatment including a new injection thingy and also a trial of a infusion which is normally for bone cancer but proven to stop breast cancer returning ( twice a year so nothing too invasive ). So thatās my treatment plan decided and will be refered now. Will keep you updated but feel happy with my decisions etc. Iām not prepared to take on chemo which is so invasive and hasnāt proven to benefit hormonal breast cancer and only in some cases a 6 percent difference. Personally I donāt see it as worthwhile putting myself through it. Iād rather not šŖ. Anyway hope youāre okay and sorry for waffling. They did say happy birthday when they realised I was no longer 47 but in fact 48 ! lol xxxx speak soon xxxx
ā¤ļøāļøš„šHappy Birthday to yooooooo!šš„āļøā¤ļø
Hope the oncology appointment is swift and positive and that you then go and eat lots of cake and drink lots of fizz whilst opening lots of presents!
xxxxxxxxxx
Yay !! I knew your x Ray would be clear ! Super super super happy for you.
Blue boob fading and in a way Iām sad as I liked the colour ššš. I have been mad cleaning too ! It must be something in the air !
You should defo come visit Cornwall , itās very beautiful ā¤ļø
Enjoy your break and make sure you keep us updated ā¤ļøšā¤ļøšŖšŖšŖ
love
Donna blue tit xxx
Quick update Donna. Chest X-ray came back and all is well. Hurrah! Now I can really look forward to going to France on the 1st. We nearly went to Cornwall this year - itās somewhere Iāve always wanted to go. Maybe next year š
Iāve spent the morning maniacally cleaning and sorting cupboards, the same kind of way I did when I was pregnant. Must be something to do with preparing yourself for a life change - wanting everything to be in its right place (fat chance if that in my house though, itās chaos!)
Iām delighted that your daughter is so artistic - she will get a lifetime of pleasure from it ā¤ļø
Hope youāre having a lovely weekend and that blue boob of yours is getting less so by the day!
xxxx
Yep Iām expecting a cake at least !!!!! How wonderful that you have a break booked ā¤ļø Make sure you enjoy every moment and relax ! Iām sure your chest pains are linked to anxiety as itās indeed a rollercoaster of emotions !!!!ā Iām primary teacher and love love love it !! I went in two days last week and it was ace š canāt wait to start. If I hear anything on news about crazy woman exposing herself in Edinburgh I will know who it is !! Likewise Iām in Cornwall so keep your ears and eyes posted šš. I forgot to say my boob is still blue from the dye they use ! So not only is swollen and looking magnificent its also blue š. Like your dishy surgeon says the thigh will prob be sore as my sorest part was where they took tissue from under boob and flapped š it over into boob. My boob has never really felt sore to be honest ! My underarm was sore from lymph gland removal but much better now and I can almost stretch my arm straight šŖšŖ winning !!!! lol. Anyway enjoy the break and please keep us updated ā¤ļø Stop stressing and enjoy your art. How wonderful ! Iām the worst ( literally ) at art , however my daughter has a natural talent and is amazing. Keep going and remember this time next year this will all be a distant memory šš.
Knitted Knocker!! That is absolutely brilliant!!! šš
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I think they should sing to you AND get you a cake, at the very least! What a way to spend your birthday! Not fair! But congratulations on your new career and job - how exciting! Primary teaching? My partner is a semi retired primary teacher (and laterally a head) and some of the stories heās told me are priceless. Never a dull moment! I wish you masses of fun and satisfaction on this wonderful new path.
Absolute Sodās Law that the cancer arrived just as you were trying to focus on the new job though. Same with me in that my art ācareerā is finally starting to get somewhere and then BLAMMO, the big C arrived. But Iām being very philosophical about it and reckon an enforced pause and a step back will result in fantastic new creative output - once the painkillers wear off. My sexy surgeon says that the pain from the surgery on my thighs (where all that helpful fat is!) will be much worse than the my breast or armpit. As long as he gives me a decent thigh lift then I really donāt care š The bio oil tip is a fab one - thanks for that - and it sounds like itās really working for you! Iām amazed at how fast youāre healing - that is so, so great!! I can imagine Iām going to find it really hard not to show everyone my boob after surgery cos Iāll be so proud of it in all its gory glory! So if you read about a semi crazed woman in Edinburgh, drugged up on painkillers, arrested for exposing herself in Tesco, youāll know itās me.
My very nice breast nurse got my chest X-ray pushed forward to today so I was in the hospital briefly for that this afternoon. Will get the results at my pre op next Thursday and fingers crossed itās just me being a hypochondriac. Theyāre going to do the pre op early because weāre off to Provence for 10 days on the 1st of Oct. I canāt wait and am so pleased I can still go! (Apologies if Iāve told you that already - my brain is mush right now.) Back on the 11th and surgery on the 14th. What a whirlwind!
Thanks a million for your email address. I will take you up on that lovely offer for sure (and will give you mine). Time for bed now. This rollercoaster is knackering! Sleep well xxx
Jan
reading that made me spit my tea out !! So funny šš
thank you ššš
Just thought Iād add to Donnaās lovely post as she whips her āboobs out for anyone whoās curious.ā I know how she feels. I was sitting in the restaurant at my gym with a group of friends, one of whom expressed interest in my Knitted Knocker (I had a full mastectomy). Without a second thought, I just whipped it out and tossed it to her. After the initial shock, we all laughed but I just hadn't thought I was in a packed public place. Heaven knows what people must have thought but we were in stitches. The fact it, you get to a point where your inhibitions are gone to pot, so often have you whipped your top off. I wish you both all the best. Jan
Omg brushing ! I mean bruising ššš
Ooh your surgeon sounds lush !!!! I have oncology appt on Tuesday ( my birthday ) lucky me !!!! I hope they sing to me or something š I will find out about radiotherapy and let you know as should find out. Iām four weeks since surgery and my brushing has Disappeared and my scars are healing and fading ( Iām using bio oil itās bloody amazing ). Iām hoping to start radio ASAP as I want to start school with it done. Fingers crossed. This job is my first teaching post as I qualified in July then two days later found out about the blooming cancer would you believe it. Anyway onwards and upwards. Cannot wait to have my own class ššš. I do now just whip my boobs out for anyone who is curious. My poor neighbor popped in for a cuppa and she got a full on unexpected demonstration of my surgery and boob analysis ššš. Honestly tho as sore as it is for first two weeks ( donāt lift or do anything strenuous and make sure you REST) it does heal quickly and before you know it your bruises are gone and the scars fading. My boob looks a really good shape so will see what radio does to it. To be honest I donāt care ! I donāt mind a deformed booby if thatās what happens šŖšš. I said they could have my boob if they wanted it ! My cat flap š has done wel so far tho so fingers crossed no more surgery. Please keep me updated and If you need a chat Iām here xxxx my email if you want it ( to message privately and whenever you need to ) is donnabarnes7@outlook.com Take care lovely š. Remember weāve got this šŖšŖšŖšŖ donna xx
Iām so glad to hear that your recovery is going so well, Donna. Itās a very good sign that youāre bored and looking forward to a new start next month (new school?) But no beards please š§š
And how funny that our diagnoses are the same! You are forging the way forward and I am following in your wake!
Iām still on an emotional rollercoaster but am generally feeling very positive - I was virtually skipping down the street yesterday with the relief of the diagnosis/prognosis and today Iām a bit more āthoughtfulā. But because Iām not āillā itās hard to believe I even have cancer but I I guess that itāll sink in after the op! Are you ok with how your breast looks now after the cat flap? I guess it must still be very sore and bruised and you probably canāt really tell yet? Do you have a date for starting radiotherapy? They said 6-8 weeks after surgery to me. I read that radiotherapy after surgery can sometimes mess with the reconstructed breast - but when I asked my surgeon he sort of just waved it away. Heās your classic posh, hugely confident young gun - but I guess they have to be super confident to do the job they do! (Heās also ridiculously good looking, which makes me even more self conscious when I have to whip my top off! š) Getting used to sitting around with your boobs out is par for the course though. And I donāt care, as long as they get it all sorted and I can get on with life!!!
What a ramble! I canāt tell you how lovely it is to be able to chat to someone in the same position and Iām so grateful to you for your support.
Cirrus xx
Thanks so much, Jan, for your wonderful support. Hereās to health and happiness for us both xxx
So pleased to hear about your diagnosis, Cirrus. Just go easy on yourself now. There is an interesting time ahead, packed with new experiences and some surprises. Go with the flow is my advice - there is no way to predict how you will be affected so don't expect the worst but don't feel bad about feeling bad (if you do). Weāre all different.
Wishing you all the best, Jan x
Hi again !
I forgot to add we have have the exact same diagnosis. I wish theyād taken my fat from thighs instead the CAT flap ššwas from underneath my boob. Keep in touch re operation. Youāll be absolutely fine ā¤ļø
Hey lovely ,
I am recovering well now, been at home a lot so I am bored and looking forward to starting my new job in October. Iāve found the recovery from surgery easier than envisaged and I am positive about next steps which will be radiotherapy and hormone treatment so I am sure I will probably grow a beard !!! šš. Iāve honestly been positive from the diagnosis. I believe in the power of positive thinking and surround myself with positive people which also helps. The hardest thing is saying that youāve got the dreaded C and then explaining to people that Iām not unwell ! I am sure your pains are nothing. And more than likely they are anxiety pains to be honest. I had the same feeling before I went for my diagnosis. Please let me know what happens next and we can keep each other going ! Ps I love being referred to as young !! Itās the best thing !!! Donna xxx
Hi Donna and Jan
I got my biopsy results today and itās the best news possible really.
Ductal cancer, Stage 1 or maybe 2 (will know after surgery), Grade 1. ER+ PR+
Not had HER2 results yet. (If HER2 and stage 2 then Iāll need chemo but fingers crossed not.) Size is 3cm but slow growing. The surgeon said Iāve probably had it for months.
Iāll be having a wide local excision and reconstructive surgery (using fat from my thighs - every cloud, eh?) on 14th Oct and then a month of radiotherapy 6-8 weeks later.
They will also take out some lymph nodes in case itās spread as theyāre not 100% sure. But even if it is in the nodes they say itās very treatable. Theyāll do a scan of my lungs just in case too as Iāve been fretting about that. Then Tamoxifen long term.
But itās all as good as it can be under the circumstances and Iām feeling very, very grateful. I know there are so many out there who arenāt as lucky in their diagnosis and prognosis.
x
Jan, thank you so much for these lovely words. I appreciate your support so much. And thank you for your reassurance and sharing your experience with me. It really does help. It sounds like you had an awful lot of waiting for results - it must have been hell. I really hope things are much, much better for you now. Iāve only been waiting for 8 days and Iām wrecked. But I will go into that consulting room tomorrow, with my best friend by my side, take whatever life has in store and get on with it. I think that good can come out of the most awful situations and I believe it will be so with this one.
Youāve given me real strength, thank you.
X
Hi Cirrus
First, Iām so sorry youāve had this diagnosis. Reading your post stirred up some memories - Thursday is the first anniversary of my surprise diagnosis (the consultant had it didnāt look like anything to worry about!). But then, isnāt this diagnosis always an unwelcome surprise? We know the odds but it happens to other people!
I canāt tell you not to worry - youād have to be inhuman! What occurs to me though is that chest pain is a symptom of severe anxiety (of which I have decades of experience) so maybe itās not another bc symptom. Your lymph nodes being clear is an excellent sign. Not trying to outdo you but 19 of my 21 nodes were infected - yet there was no sign of any spread in the CT scan, bone scan and eventually MRI. My point is, we always fear the worst but it doesnāt necessarily happen.
So, a year later, here I am as I always knew I would be (my husband carried the fear of the bc, not me - too busy being afraid of having panic attacks etc!). It will be the same for you, hopefully a bit faster than a year. Iām not a fan of the idea of a ājourneyā but itās certainly an experience so I wish you and your daughter well in what lies ahead.
Jan
Thank you so much for replying, Donna, and for being so positive and kind. It really helps. A strong, sane voice amidst some of the hysterical ones in my head right now - and the cat flap made me laugh š
I think I would be feeling less panicky if I didnāt have this horrible sore, tight chest.
I am 48 so, like you, pretty young (which is what they kept telling me at the hospital and which is always nice to hear, but not in this context of course).
How are you doing now?
Cirrus x
Try not to worry. Easier said than done ! I know this. When I was told mine was cancer the worse part of course is waiting to find out what type. My boobs were also sore before I went and I couldnāt even feel the lump , I had a dimpling. I didnāt tell my daughters ( 13 and 11) until I knew what stage etc. Mine is stage one and Iāve had surgery now ( 3 weeks ago ) MI Cap flap ( not cat flap š) which has been a success. You need to remain positive and Iād say if your nodes are clear than I would imagine your stage is also low and youāve obviously caught it early. Remember breast cancer is so treatable now days and there are so many options to treat that you will be offered. You will be absolutely fine. Stay positive and think positive and please update. If you want to chat anytime Iām here ā¤ļø Donna (47 year old teacher with a sore left boob ) xx
Hello from a new, very scared, member of this club.
I was told this time last week that I had breast cancer. It came as a complete bolt from the blue - Iād found a large lump in my right breast in mid August, completely by chance after losing a lot of weight (on purpose) and my GP referred me to the breast clinic. I donāt know why but I thought I was just making a fuss about nothing so when the consultant gave me the news, I just couldnāt believe it. I had mammograms and ultrasounds and then core biopsies and they wanted to check out some calcification in the breast too. They were all so lovely at the hospital with two consultants both telling me they would āmake me well againā - words which I am hanging onto for dear life. I am back to the breast clinic tomorrow to get my results and I feel faint with anxiety about it. Havenāt slept properly since I got the news (always been a bad sleeper). Iām trying to keep going (Iām at work right now) but it keeps hitting me like a train. Not helped by the fact that Iāve developed a sore chest in the last 3 days - like you get with a cold - so obviously Iām terrified that itās metastasised to my lungs, despite them telling me that my lymph nodes are clear. I havenāt told my 15 year old daughter yet (Iām a single parent) and I canāt bear to think of how this will affect her.
Sorry for the outpouring. I just feel so frightened and then numb and then positive and then frightened again.
Cirrus.