Hi all
The Onc who is treating me has written a book about lifestyle changes and he seems very proactive and is conducting a lot of research. It’s £10 and can be bought through his web site cancernet.co.uk/
Most of the diet info is availble on the website free of charge, there is some interesting stuff!
Jayney
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Hi - I have just finished reading the book ‘Lifestyle after Cancer’ (sitting on a wet beach in Devon!!) and was really impressed. I have a scientific background and was looking for something with real evidence evaluated. It was so motivating i joined a gym (for the first time EVER!!) and bought gojo berries from the healthfood shop! Just got to GO to the gym now and EAT the berries!!
The book can be purchased using the web site address on the previous comment. Money well spent!
Hi all
You might be interested in our factsheet on the subject of diet and breast cancer, here’s the link…
breastcancercare.org.uk/upload/pdf/bcc_diet_09.pdf
I hope you find this a useful read.
Kind regards
Louise
Facilitator
Another alternative to ordinary milk is nut milk. I have given up dairy products but can’t stand soya milk etc so I’m using organic almond milk which you can get in tetrapaks. Don’t know how widely available it is though, I’ve found in health food stores and waitrose. It is sweetened a bit with agave syrup but I only use it on cereal so that’s okay.
Elinda x
This book is brilliant, I just posted it on another thread then saw this one. It’s not just diet but lifestyle in general.
It’s called ‘anticancer - a new way of life’ by Dr David Servan-Schreiber, a physician & neuroscientist who has suffered from cancer himself:
amazon.co.uk/Anticancer-New-Life-David-Servan-Schreiber/dp/0718154290
We are always told to eat more veg, have less stress, more excercise etc, but this book explains how cancer develops and how the little things we eat and do actually act on cancer cells.
I think being able to understand the processes is a better motivator than just being ‘told what to do’ by an expert. I found it fascinating, very easy to read and it was such a relief to realise I had some control over my condition.
I am doing my head in with all this diet stuff!! I have been a vegetarian for 18 years and always eaten loads of fruit and veg, but probably quite a lot of dairy too, as well as soya products, which I now read can be linked to ER+ BC (which I have).
I also read somewhere to use flaxseed or linseed to get my omega 3
( as I don’t eat fish, oily or otherwise )But now I see on the bag that it contains “phytoestrogens”.??? Are these like oestrogen, only from plants??? As an ER+, should I avoid this ???
What a minefield !!!
Any helpful replies appreciated …
Anna x
Hi,
my Goddaughter is a vet and she often talks to me about BC. She told me that ordinary dairy cows are pumped with hormones but cows giving organic milk have none. So I switched to organic milk, may not do anything but it was an easy switch. No difference except the price. She also pointed out that dogs suffer terribly with mammary tumours and they don’t eat the same things we do. Just think what their diet consists of!
I started reading Jane Plant hopefully and found it depressing and realised that i was not prepared to do all the ‘sometimes weird’ things she suggested. Then I read that it had only kept a small number of people from a recurrence and others had got it back. Someone on here wrote that Plant herself got it back but I haven’t read that myself so not sure. So then gave up reading it as it sounds the same as normal stats. If it gives you hope and you can eat these foods then go for it. If not, I wouldn’t even open the front page or you might feel compelled to start sticking organic linseed in places where the sun doesn’t shine (only joking)
Lily x
The David Servan-Schreiber book is excellent. I down loaded a chunk of it from the net and thought he had very good advice - most of which I’m now following - with a few lapses!
Hi Everyone,
My diet and lifestyle advice is to eat your fruit and veg. Take exercise. Make sure that you have some fun. Drink the occasional glass of champagne. If you acquire a super-rich family, partner, spouse or bank balance then make sure that you are given a Ferrari.
Best wishes,
Sue
One comment I would like to make in response to one of the Jane Plant posts on this thread is, that she did not have advanced cancer. She had the disease recur four times which she describes as ‘advanced’. My understanding is that ‘advanced’ in cancer speak means ‘secondary’ or ‘distant’ spread, but not ‘recurrent’ cancer.
Jenny
I am not a fan of Jane Plant so this post is not in defence of… LOL. But Jenny, my cancer recurred, new primaries, recurrences etc. etc. 4x and was called and noted by the pros at the Marsden as Advanced Cancer. They were all aggressive & Grade 3 etc and needing aggressive treatments. The whole ‘labelling’ of cancer is very confusing isn’t it. I suspect JaneRA might go along with this too. There seems to be some distinction between Advanced and Secondary(metastatic).
Dawn
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hi all
someone bought me a book called beating cancer with nutrition which is very good explains a lot.
I just eat everything organic now.
A friend recommended this author: Hulda Clark
amazon.co.uk/hulda-clark-Books/s?ie=UTF8&rh=n%3A266239%2Ck%3Ahulda%20clark&page=1
I have not ready any of her books.
As for diet, I have always read you should avoid too much sugar or salt, as well as processed foods and eat plenty of fruit and veg. Although I have always done this and still got C I believe it is sound advice.
Everything is polluted and riddled with hormones and chemicals these days so it is nearly impossible to avoid them. I find organic vegetables and fruit too expensive and not always good. As for organic milk, I used to buy it when my son was young and stopped doing it because I found mould (which is supposed to cause cancer) at the bottom of a milk carton which was well within its BBD and had been kept in the fridge. I got apologies from the supermarket but never an explanation so I switched to ordinary milk. I do not know how many people can afford to buy everything organic anyway.
As for dogs, if you consider what pet food is made of, I would be surprised if they did NOT get cancer!
Yes Dawn, I see what you mean. I agree it is very confusing. For example, a lady I know with spread to her bones and lymph nodes, does not consider her cancer to be advanced, whereas I would think it was.
Jenny
Dear All, one of my favourite books at the moment is the rainbow diet and how to help you beat cancer by Chris Woollams. It is packed with ideas and theories and an excellent read.
Best wishes
Leadie
Just read another excellent book: ‘Foods to fight cancer’ by Prof Richard Beliveau and Dr Denis Gingras. Like David Servan-Schreiber’s book, the science behind the foods really well explained - and in this one also clearly illustrated. Lots of mouth-watering foody pictures to inspire you too!
I’ve just signed up with one of those organic veg box delivery companies, gonna make some cancer fighting smoothies!
Here’s the Amazon link: amazon.co.uk/Foods-Fight-Cancer-Richard-B%C3%A9liveau/dp/1405319151
Hello, I just want to say I totally agree with Garden Beetle and Redders that the ‘Anti-Cancer, A New Way of Life’ book by David Servan-Schreiber is fantastic - the best cancer/diet book I have read by far. I love that he is a doctor himself, who writes beautifully and explains biochemistry in really simple terms.
I also love that he does not take an ‘either/or’ view of conventional and unconventional approaches, which most oncologists and holistic doctors do. He says that trying to get rid of cancer by diet alone is not smart, and that surgery, chemo and radiation should not be rejected. But during treatment, after it ends, and for our children and loved ones who don’t have cancer, this could be the most persuasive book around to convince people to take better care of themselves through nutrition.
He explains the biochemistry behind organic farming, and why sugar is so dangerous. And he includes guidelines for choosing anti-cancer foods. He also highlights the important role of positive emotions in preventing cancer from recurring. To read that a conventionally-trained doctor now believes in the power of the mind to help with healing is so refreshing.
This book is now my daily bible for healthy eating - I highly recommend it.
Please, please, please don’t think that a good diet and a 'positive ’ attitude will keep cancer away. There is none or little evidence to support this and those with secondaries will probably agree with this.There is always a 'blame ’ culture with cancer. You don’t get anything about positive thinking if you have heart disease, diabetes etc. i am not knocking anyone for their beliefs but trying to be realistic for those who followed all the above and STILL got cancer.I have lost friends to this cruel disease and they didn’t die because of ‘lack’ of positivity or bad diet.
R xxx
Hi Rachy,
I’m sorry to disappoint you but I will carry on thinking that my changed diet and lifestyle are helping me to resist the return of cancer. Like other posters before me, I recommended a book in the appropriate ‘complementary’ forum - and did nothing more. I appreciate your strong opinion, but we may have to agree to disagree.
As for ‘blame’ - I’ve been told by more than one oncologist that over 90 percent of breast cancers are not hereditary/genetic. So logic tells me it must be caused by something in the environment instead, and so I think it’s reasonable to look for ‘blame’ there, in the form of toxins, including modern processed food. Contrary to what you say, there are indeed quite a few studies that show huge differences in cancer rates internationally, with ‘Western’ countries having the highest rates by far. So it seems to me to be justified to explore the possibility that I am what i eat.
I also believe firmly, from my own experience, that stress and emotions, positive or negative, are biological, and have an influence on my body’s overall health. Last time I checked, my mind was still a function of my body, and so I don’t discard its power.
Like you I am trying to be realistic - for me, that means acknowledging how bad my diet and stress levels were before diagnosis, and doing something about them.
I wish you all the best in whatever ways you choose to deal with bc, and I’m very sorry for the friends you have lost. So have I.
Best wishes
Buckwheat
the thing is a good diet can do no harm and gives hope so it is best to go by what makes you feel better and i think it really helps.