are brain mets more serious?

Hi Beatrice/Nicky/Louise

Yes, I will keep you updated. In fact the Drs at Liverpool didn’t use the MRI scan information at all, it wasn’t needed.

I have an appointment this Friday to sign consent forms for my treatment so will find out then what will happen and when.

My main concern now is to have another CT scan so that we can find out what is happening elsewhere as, with this spread to my eye, the cancer is growing/spreading again and I think we need to get me onto some form of chemotherapy in order to start beating it into submission again! I do like that aggressive terminology when thinking/speaking about my cancer!

Yes Louise, it is just so traumatic. Nothing I heard yesterday was any surprise but my legs were still wobbly for ages afterwards and I just went to lie down for the rest of the afternoon when we got home. It’s all the adrenaline and everything that surges around inside you whether you like it or not. It really knocks the stuffing out of you hearing the latest instalment. We all know the outcome won’t be good.

I have to say I very nearly laughed when the dear Proffessor looked at me reassuringly and told me that ‘it didn’t alter my prognosis’! I presumed he meant that the tumour in my eye didn’t mean that I would be popping my clogs any sooner than has already been forecast! Comforting isn’t it?

Louise, I hope you are starting to heal up well and not too uncomfortable.

Thanks for your support

Sue x

Hi Sue,
Will be thinking of you tomorrow, another adrenaline rush to cope with! You seem to have got your head around things fairly quickly.
I am fine actually, had my clips out at the GPs this morning and then jumped on my bike to get to the art class I do each week. Can’t wait to wash my hair properly though. I seem to be bouncing back to ‘normal’ but when I look back I know that I am going to ‘bounce’ from crisis to crisis for the rest of my life and that I and my loved ones will never be really free from this blasted disease.
Take care
Louise

Hi all

Well, got through yesterday. Funeral in the morning for my friend Nicky who died on 12th October after 7 years of treatment for breast cancer. Then hospital for the results of my MRI and plan of treatment. The good news is that there was nothing else on the MRI apart from the tumour in my eye.

So, I start on Monday with scan of eye and then they will make a plastic mask of my face that they will then use to pin me to the table whilst they zap me with the radiotherapy. My tumour is 10mm by 5 mm, it’s a wonder I can see anything at all out of my left eye! I will be getting a daily dose for 5 days from next Thursday.

They have told me that the lens is very sensitive to radiotherapy so I may develop a cataract after the treatment but they can deal with that quite ‘easily’! I will feel tired, my eye may swell a bit and the vision get worse before it gets better. I just can’t wait to get it dealt with as it is starting to become uncomforatble and is very annoying.

Then CT scan on Wednesday this week to see what other progression there is and results of that on 5th November. So a busy 2 weeks ahead. So a quiet weekend for me.

LOve to you all

Sue x

Thanks Sue for keeping us up to date. Excellent news about MRI. Good luck with CT
Louise

Best of luck Sue

Alison x

Fingers crossed for you that everything goes well and that you arn’t in any discomfort.

Linda
x

Hi all
My most recent bummer - driving liscence revoked for 2 years. Seems like just one more thing this disease takes fromus
Louise

Just bumping this up for pink

i have just been diagnosed with probable brainmets. 2 big leisons likely inoperable. wiating for mri results to compliment the ct and check my brain stem to see if there is a tunourthere too. waiting for next steps probaly a shunt and reduce swellingthen chemo etc. i am steering myself for a bumpy road but largely feel up forit but i feel so sad today and idon,t want to be upset in front of my family.

ladies, iknow of some terribly sad outcomes for brain mets but thank you for thehope written here. i will hold on to that x

sorry dont know the answer to that one but have you thought about cyber knife as a possibilty they treat in operable tumours,some NHS hospitals have started to do it now so you may be able to get a referral.

acibadem.com.tr/cyberknife/en

leedsgammaknife.com/?gclid=COqanbb3yqYCFYIlfAod_grLOQ

Hello to all. A while ago now a forum member called KitKat wrote her ‘Brain Diaries.’ I have found them in search and am posting them here as at the time they were written I know they offered great hope and inspiration to others.
Kitkat sadly passed away many months later from other complications due to the disease that were not, I believe, in anyway related to her brain mets. She had VERY succesful WBR results.
Wishing you all the best results possible.
Lots of Love, Belinda…xx

Brain Diary Hi All
I’ve decided to impose on you all my lovely journey through brain mets as there didn’t seem anyone out there who’s done it recently/firsthand. Don’t want to scare, rather to reassure, so if you don’t want to read, stop now!

As you may know, saw the doc last week who confirmed brain mets. Hospital called Tues ( week later) for me to go in Thurs for mask and simulator for whole brain radiotherapy. Have to say, VERY impressed at speed of NHS here, also slightly scared that they felt it necessary to do it so quickly!

Mask was fine! I was worried I’d feel claustrophobic, but it was a bit like having a a warm string vest put over my face! It was only on for about 5 mins and then cooled down. Then they clip you down on the table, but the radio is only about 6 mins total, so I can do that! Easy! No tattoos as they draw on the mask!

She also showed me the MRI films and the mets were very small white spots. About 6 or 7 dotted around, but lower in the brain than I had thought. Not many in the top bit, and one a bit alarmingly near my optic nerve, but she reckons this radio will stop it inflicting any damage.

The radio will hopefully reduce them but, as usual, won’t get rid of them. Whether they recur is apparently dependent on what happens elsewhere in me, but as liver and bones seems stable for now, fingers crossed.
I start next Tues, 10 sessions over 2 weeks. Hair will go patchy and thin again, but it may not come back this time. Still, rather be here and bald, than hairy and not!

Feel so much better now its all going ahead and I can deal with it! Been working out driving rota and babysitting rota today.
Driving by the way, is off for the ‘forseeable’. basically if I ever want to drive again, the doc would need to fill in a form for the DVLA. Just going to have to get used to it, and use taxis and buses etc.

Was a bit concerned that this would in some way change me, my personality, but just going to have to try it and see. Surgery is not an option cos there are just too many.
Steroids seem to be stopping headaches and clumsiness, still a bit woozy but think thats the steroids themselves! Plus, they give me thrush so mouth back to cardboard and weight dropping off again. Mind you, I’ve got plenty to lose so no worries there!
Anyway, think thats all for now, let you know how its going next week.
Love Kitkat

Brain Diary Part 2 Hi Everyone,
I’m back! 4 whole brain radiotherapy treatments done, 6 to go and not feeling too bad!
It’s a very strange experience when you actually have the radiotherapy. When I’ve had it before on my boob and back, there is no smell, no lights just buzzes. This time there is a definite smell, kind of burning but not really, they call it ionising apparently, but my friend whose been driving me noticed it in the car! It also flashes a kind of blue light at the back of my eyes which has baffled them as its not supposed to! I think it must just be zapping a particular nerve in there somewhere! Its so quick though that I don’t have time to worry. I have to say that by the end of it, I’ll be glad to finish!
I’m feeling more weary today, and had a bit of a funny ear last night which is all down to swelling in my poor head. I do feel a bit like a bit of bacon! Hair still there, but scalp definitely feeling tingly kind of pre hair fall out feeling for those who’ve had chemo.
Anyway, will have a good sleepy weekend. My poor Mum has been away on holiday since all this kicked off and knows nothing about it, because I so wanted her to have a good holiday, so thats all about to hit the fan this evening. I hope she’ll forgive me.
Hope everyones doing ok
speak to you when I can
lots of love Kitkat

2nd part of Kitkat’s brain diaries…

A new bike for Christmas Hi all

wanted to tell you all about my early xmas pressie as I’m so excited and proud of myself!

I got a big shiny purple bike! With lots of comfortable padding and good suspension for my poor ole bones.
Been out with hubby and son and did 2 miles and felt really brilliant and alive! Fantastic, and its exercise and a bit of independence as I can’t drive.

Would definitely recommend it despite my mothers worries about my bone mets!

Loe Kitkat (exhausted but happy)

More Good News from me too! I wanted to share my good news too with everyone as sometimes we forget there is hope!
I’ve recently had CT scans on brain, abdomen, neck, pelvis and there is NO EVIDENCE OF METS !!! For those who don’t know I had liver mets and multiple brain mets (see profile) and am so overjoyed I can’t quite take it in. My onc said he was pleasantly surpised as he had expected there to be some activity!!!
I do still need to have bone scan as he thinks any cancer activity here might be the cause of my recent anaemia but I can deal with bone mets! Its not the bone mets that see you off is it.
Feel like the huge cloud I’ve carried around has been lifted, for a little while anyway.
So don’t give up, hope my news cheers you as much as it has me!
With love
Kitkat

Are brain mets more serious?
What I have learned from this site is that every person is different. None of the posts above are similar to my experience with my wife. She has had a secondary brain tumour for a year now. The “good” news was that it was a single lump and so could be surgically removed. For many the cancer can be throughout the brain and so surgery is not an option. The drawback of surgery to the brain compared to the breast or her lung secondary is only the tumour can be removed and (for obvious reasons) not the surrounding tissue as well. Consequently one or two cancer cells not visible to the surgeon’s eye were left behind and within three months the tumour had grown back to the same size. The decision then was to blast it with a single high intensity shot of radiation and contain with Herceptin (the other “good” news was that whilst the primary was triple neg. the secondary was HER2+ allowing use of Herceptin). This has so far been successful but with one major side effect. The radiation has swollen and damaged the brain tissue immediately surrounding the tumour causing my wife to have severe epileptic type seizures, the first the very next day after treatment. This is now being treated with a combination of steroids and other medication but the steroids have side effects which have a major impact on her quality of life. By comparison my wife’s lung secondary was surgically removed (a physically more major operation) at around the same time (they were discovered together) but is now largely forgotten about.
Good news is progress. The NHS are slowly acquiring new but expensive “Cyber Knife” machines in England which are improving the treatment of brain mets.