Bio resonance
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—Bio resonance?posted on 15.01.06 1:54 pm
scouter
—I have a friend who is going down the alternative route. (Her choice i know), but I feel so concerned for her as she seems to have ruled out totally any ‘safety’ checks like mammograms, having been told that they will ‘interfere’ with her treatment. Can’t help feeling that it’s a stitch up. I have no problems with complimentary treatments but to disregard scientific tests totally seems to me to be ‘playing’ with life and death.
She’s basically on a totally protien free diet and receiving this bio resonance therepy which she is convinced is scientific and shows up the cancer in her breast (if it is still present or not). Perhaps someone could reassure me that she’s not being totally hoodwinked.
C
— Hi C
I had all the conventinal treatment (10 months in total) and then went down the complimentarty path. I eat mainly fruit and veg and a small amoun t of animal protien and feel fab. I was having some tummy problems and was recommended a lady who when I got there did bio resonance (although I didn’t know this till I got there) she acuarately detected some food intolerances which once removed from my diet the troubles left me. She also identified 2 mineral and vitamin deficiancies. It was quite an interesting experience and since then a couple of my friends have been and she has helped them. one of them was being poisoned by a leaking gas cooker but that’s another story…
However I wouldn’t rely on it as a form of treatment. maybe your friend is scared and not facing up to her illness. Hope this helps you a bit.
Love from Becks xx
—Thanks —Hi Becks
Thanks for that. I totally understand having both, what I find so hard is that she’s convinced (by her the therepists), that doing it their way is the only way and that by having any form of ‘back up’, i.e. a mammograme to check whether or not the tumour has reduced or not, would result in ‘damaging’ what they’ve done so far. I personally think it’s a huge stitch up and she’s being hood winked. She had been diagnosed with breast cancer in July 2005 and was told that she needed a mastectomy and ‘fast’, she chose the alternative route and as a result I keep feeling that time is not on her side now.
Any further thoughts.
C
I think this is outrageous Hi scouter,
I think you are right to be concerned and yes I think your friend is being hoodwinked and misled by an unscrupuluous person.
Many people find that complimentarry treatments are helpful in managing certain aspects of living with cancer. But no credible complementary or ‘alternative’ therpaist would recommend giving up on allopathic medicine. There is absolutely no evidence that bio resonance can do anything to prevent or cure or stop the spread of cancer.
You imply that your friend has turned down a recommended mastectomy which is shocking. I understand (though don’t agree with) people who decline chemotherapy or radiotherapy but to decline surgery to remove a breast cancer is foolish and dangerous.
Your friend may well die if she continues to decline conventional medicine. She may die with conventional medicine too…its failure to cure cancer is one of the reasons that people turn in fear and desperation to alternative charlatans who make extravagant promises.
This must be very hard for you…you want to support your friend but hate to see her going down this route. Could you persuade her to ring one of the Cancer helplines, like Breast Cancer Care or Cancer Bacup? If she is determined to go ahead I wouldn’t mince my words if she were my friend: I would tell her how much I cared for her but be absolutely blunt about the likely consequences of her actions (particularly if she has an aggressive cancer.)
I would also try to find out more about this dreadful charlatan and lodge some complaints…regretably there are far too few controls on unscrupulous practitioners. There is a tendency for peope to smile and nod that everyone shold make their own ‘choices’…well if this friend was a child and her parents were turning down traditional treatment something would quickly be done…cause she’s an adult we kind of shrug our shoulders and say its OK. Its not.
Sorry to sound harsh…there are some good sound, experienced and professional complimentary practitioners out there but this person is not one of them.
Best wishes
Jane
Hi C Hi C,
Yes, they are charletans.
For goodness sake everyone, don’t be taken in by such people. Ask for details of training and qualifications, scientific evidence (reputable journals only), the number of patients in any research, who they have used as ‘controls’ (people not receiving the treatment), the method they have used, the statistics they have used, their references and finally full details of their public and medical liability insurance.
In fact you should ask complementary/alternative therapists this even if they still tell you to continue with conventional medicine.
C. I suppose your friend is paying for the so-called treatment. I bet if the treatment doesn’t work they’ll blame her and say that she isn’t following the treatment properly or that she isn’t trying hard enough or following the diet closely enough.
Incidently, protein-free diets will kill you eventually. Several proteins cannot be made in the body and have to be ingested.
Best wishes,
Sue
Scouter I think complementary therapies can do a lot to improve cancer patients’ sense of wellbeing and enable them to feel that they have some control over their lives, but I think relying on them as the only treatment is very dangerous.
Whereas conventional treatments have been subjected to lengthy trials to ensure both that they will do some good and that the side effects are tolerable, the same cannot be said of many alternative therapies. No diet that cuts out a whole food group is very sensible, and I really can’t see how an occasional mammogram (or ultrasound if she prefers) would ‘interfere’ with her bio-resonance.
I think you are right to be concerned that your friend is being duped, but all you can do is tell her of your fears - ultimately it’s her decision.
Yes I would agree with what everyone has said. By all means use complementary therapies, especially to deal with the mental and emotional aspects of having bc, but to turn down allopathic treatments seems foolhardy in the extreme.
You’re in a very difficult position Scouter - obviously you are concerned for your friend but in the end it is her choice which route to take. All you can do is to let her know you are worried about her decision and that you care.
I’m afraid she seems to be under the influence of someone who seems to think they can play God with someone’s life. What is the success rate for this type of treatment? How long has the therapist been practising bio resonance therapy? Etc, Etc.
I do hope she comes to her senses before it’s too late.
With love
Judy xxx
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—Wow! —Well, thank you all so much for a resounding negative feedback to what my friend is doing.! Now all that remains is for me to find a way to put this to her. She has been going down this route for 5 months now and when we talk about the conventional route she seems to believe that it’s all about ‘big money’ and the multi nationals…! not sure what sort of indoctrination this is… also, I need to mention that she and myself (not sure about the grammer there!!), live in SW France and am unsure as to what backup there would be for her here. To further complicate the situation, she’s Swiss, living in France and traveling to Switzerland and Limoges to obtain this treatment. It appears the woman who runs this clinic is a ‘friend’…(some friend!). I do also think that in Europe they seem more ready to accept alternatives, although probably more complimentary than alternative.
Shall find some courage somehow,
S
How is your friend doing Scouter? I hope she is doing well. It takes a determined person to take the alternative route, but it has been done, and with the right help, can be successful. Others have done it, why not her?
She is right to avoid mammograms - sonograms are preferable, and there are also thermograms. Some think that regular mammograms can cause cancer - after all, they are soft X-rays and deliver a much greater dose than a chest X-ray. Not to mention that compression of the tissue can well disrupt tumours, releasing cells into the wild. All in all something to be avoided.
If she has taken guidance from qualified and trained nutritionists and doctors, she may well find she lives longer than if she had taken treatment. She may well find she is cured. Who knows.
Be reassured about her diet. It will contain enough protein for her, and the only thing she needs to be wary of is to take vitamin B12. Vegans follow the same principles, and don’t ‘die eventually’.
She is to be supported and commended for her approach in helping herself to this extent. After all, I bet she supports you, even though she disagrees with your approach.
We all have free will and free choice - none of us have to endure treatment which may be suspect at best. I doubt very much that fraud or deception is involved.
Not being picky but would like to point something out.
‘complimentry’ means it complements conventional medicine. On the other hand, and completely different, is the ‘alternative’ route which is exactly that -An alternative to conventional medicine. Two completely different things.
Absolutely right, Pineapple. There is certainly a difference between complementary and alternative, even though some approaches such as nutrition and agressive supplementation, use of herbs, etc may be incorporated into both camps. I guess it depends on the intention as to use.
Absolutely necessary also, to ensure that practitioners of whatever therapy is used, are members of their appropriate professional bodies, and that they are experienced in dealing with cancer. At no point has any ever said to me that I will be cured. And if being ‘picky’ is attention to detail, then that could be the difference between life and death.