DCIS single mastectomy, immediate DIEP reconstruction experience

I just wanted to share my experience so far in case it will help anyone else out there going through the same thing. I was diagnosed with high grade DCIS with cancerization of the lobules in April. I had a lumpectomy with 2 re-excisions that still had positive margins in May and June. I didn’t feel that another re-excision would be successful as the second one showed more DCIS than the previous re-excision. Next step, mastectomy with reconstruction. My local hospital had limited options for reconstruction. I preferred autologous and immediate reconstruction, but my only options locally were mastectomy with skin expander followed by delayed DIEP reconstruction or implants.
I had one plastic surgeon tell me he would do an implant under the muscle, and he thought DIEP was overkill. The other plastic surgeon gave me both options but couldn’t do DIEP at the local hospital and I would have to go to a different hospital after the mastectomy with skin expander was completed and healed.

I then decided to get a second opinion at a university hospital about an hour away. The second opinion included full review of imaging and pathology before scheduling the appointment. It was really hard to wait that long but finally got an appointment. Diagnosis was confirmed and the breast surgeon and plastic surgeon felt I was a good candidate for immediate DIEP reconstruction after skin and nipple sparing mastectomy due to only finding DCIS in previous surgeries with small areas of positive margins. It was willing to take the risk of potentially requiring radiation if any invasive cancer was found or if margins were still unclear after mastectomy.

Next step- surgery took place July 24. A nerve block was done to help with the mastectomy pain and a catheter was placed after I was under anesthesia. The first day of recovery was a blur. I woke up with a surgical bra and abdominal binder and in a beach chair position. I had a drain in my breast and two drains in my abdomen. The plastic surgery residents and medical students came in every hour to check the skin flap and do a doppler pen to check the artery in the breast. This was a little stressful because they had a heck of a time finding it each time and I worried I’d have to go back to the OR but all was well. The nurses took care of emptying the drains. Pain meds were tylenol and a muscle relaxer alternated with toradol injected in my IV ( that one burned!). They informed me that I could have oxycodone if I asked for it, which I did. Everyone is different, some don’t need that extra pain medication, but others do. I think if I could have iced the surgical areas, I wouldn’t have needed stronger pain meds, but you can’t so I did take them as needed.

Most of day 2 was watching Lord of the Rings and DC comics movies in between frequent naps and hourly checks again. The catheter came out and then I was able to go for a short walk with the physical therapist and occupational therapist. I was allowed to sit in a reclining chair and use the bathroom. Thankfully I didn’t have any dietary restrictions and my husband brought me one of my favorite comfort foods for dinner, grilled cheese with tomato and fresh baked cookies. Meds were the same and checks dropped to every 2 hours early evening.

I was discharged on day 3 and went home. I took my first shower and had a good look at my breast and incisions. The skin flap island was positioned at the bottom of my breast and was much larger than I expected, it was very disconcerting to see. Because of the swelling, my belly button was/is still off center and higher. The drains were a bit scary at first, making sure I cleaned with a fresh washcloth around each drain , and then stripping the tubing. The nurse made it look so easy and could strip the tubing in one motion, definitely not something I was able to do. I put gauze under each tube and then over it to keep it clean.

Putting on clothes…I have to admit I gave up on trying to wear underwear or pants the first few days because of where the drains were inserted. I had purchased two robes with drain pockets and wore those. I then started wearing the lounge pants and shorts I purchased at goodwill along with the mastectomy hoodie several days later. With the extra fluid retained, I needed 2 sizes larger than what I normally wear, so they experts were correct about that part.

After 2 days home I was allowed to ditch the uncomfortable surgical bra and wore a more comfortable front closure bra. Padding with gauze was a must for me for comfort. I also started wearing a soft cotton tank under the abdominal binder. That helped with the itching. The binder also rides up now and then and puts some pressure on my breast incisions and drains. I had to undo the top strap of the binder when trying to sleep.

Sleeping was good for the first week. I had purchased a power lift recliner that helped tremendously. However, one of the wires broke somehow about 5 days after I got home. My bed was too high to get into easily and I ended up in my husband’s manual recliner. We had to put several pillows in it to prop me up because I was too short, and then he had to put me in the reclined position, prop pillows under my legs, and cover me with blankets and make sure I had my meds and a drink. Once I was in that recliner, I couldn’t get out without help. I tried a few other locations without much luck getting comfortable. After the breast drain and one of the abdominal drains came out, I can now get in my bed. I’m still not able to get a full nights sleep all in a row though, I tend to sleep 4-5 hours and then am able to get back to sleep for a few more hours after taking another dose of tylenol or ibuprofen.

A few other random items:

A claw reach device is very helpful though it was hard to pick up remotes and cell phones which I dropped all the time!

A pill organizer was helpful. I was so tired, I couldn’t remember which medication I took last or if I slept through it. I was alternating ibuprofen and Tylenol plus the muscle relaxer and stool softener. I did have oxycodone for breakthrough pain. I needed that once a day and mostly only if I slept through a dose of the other meds.

In my experience , the pain comes and goes for whatever reason. The abdomen area hurt more at first, and now the pain is worst in my breast near the center of my chest where they removed some of my rib cartilage.

There was some confusion about when drains can come out. My ERAS (Enhanced recovery after surgery) book said <30 ml per drain per 24 hours, but my plastic surgeon nurse told me it was really 20 (very disappointing!). I really , really hate the drains but I understand they are necessary.

I can’t think of anything else, but will add to this again when I get thorough week 3 of recovery.

I hope this is helpful to someone else out there going through a similar journey.

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Hello Pumpkin

Thank you for sharing your experience. I found it very helpful.

After a second reoccurrence, had a mastectomy 2years ago. As it was my 3 experience of bc in 12 years I just wanted to have the breast removed asap. The soonest surgery was a simple mastectomy but at the time I discussed a delayed reconstruction with the surgeon. I now have a difficult decision to make, whether I stay flat or I go for Diep surgery.

At present I feel fit and well, but at 67 yrs old I worry about the ability to bounce back and deal with the other complications after this intensive surgery.

May I ask, given the discomfort you are in, would you make the same decision again?

Sending a hug :hugs: and hope you’re on the way to a speedy recovery ! X

Hi, there is some amazing advice and support on the Keeping Abreast website for those considering or those who have had reconstruction: Video Journey Roadmap - Keeping Abreast

Hello, and sorry this reply is coming so late. At 54 years old, yes, I would do the DIEP again knowing what I know now. If I have to do this again on the other side, I plan to do another autologous reconstruction with tissue from another area. The worst parts were the drains and constant worry about the flap failing or getting an infection. The pain was manageable and having the lift recliner made a huge difference in being able to take care of myself, even though my husband took care of the cooking (aka takeout) and doing laundry.

A few additions now that I’m 4 weeks after surgery:

the last drain came out and I was able to move to shapewear. So far I haven’t found the right kind of shapewear for me. I absolutely hate the silicone bands on most shapewear, and good luck trying to use the bathroom with a bodysuit. I keep looking into the Marena post surgical girdles and other items, but I figure I can just deal with what I already have for a few more weeks and use the smaller abdomen binder I purchased when I don’t want to have to deal with stripping down to use the toilet (it’s not easy to pee through the hole.) I also haven’t found the right bra that doesn’t hurt my sternum, though for some reason wearing a cotton stretch tank under my bra helps.

It’s easier to get in bed to sleep now that the drains are out, and I use a wedge pillow to help keep my legs in a comfortable position.

Swelling and fluid retention is still happening. I’m trying out lymphatic massage to see if that helps.

The nurse that took out my drains told me I had some moisture based skin irritation. It didn’t sound like she was concerned, but when I looked at my flap crease two days later and saw a yellow crust over parts of the incision, I freaked out and called the plastic surgeon. Apparently it was normal at this stage and no signs of infection. I was told to put aquaphor on the irritated areas and incision and stick a piece of gauze in the crease to draw out any tissue or fluid sloughing off.

More to come after I get through the next week or two.

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Hi Pumpkin

thanks for posting this update and I’m so pleased to hear your doing well !

I’m still very undecided. I read your post and I’m full of admiration for how well you are coping with the discomfort and the drains. And reading this gives me the hope that I too could cope with the Diep surgery and recovery.

The flip side is, yesterday I spoke with a friend who will support me with whichever decision I make, but has been very honest to say she would not put her body through the Diep surgery at 67 years old. She is a retired nurse, my bc nurse was also of this same opinion.

I have a little more time to decide…

Meanwhile, I hope you continue to make good progress in your recovery :hugs:

Take care x

Jules

Week 5-6 update- turning another corner in healing, almost there!

I tried lymphatic massage at week 4 and 5 and it does seem to help with the swelling. I was also told that pineapple can help reduce swelling, and there are a few other things that can help with skin healing. I ended up purchasing a drink mix called Juven that contains collagen, vitamins, calcium and zinc that is supposed to help support wound and skin healing. In addition to that I’m drinking the Chobani complete and daily Harvest smoothie drinks with almond milk to help with my protein intake.

The skin on my abdomen incision is almost healed. I had a few stitches popping out in that area and it is taking longer to heal fully than I expected, but hopefully another week will do the trick. My belly button is being stubborn, the scab hasn’t come off yet but hopefully soon.

Breast and flap is continuing to heal. I have to say I still get confused about when to use aquaphor/petroleum jelly. about a week ago it looked like the yellow crust covered the whole wound and I asked again if it looked like it should. They said it was supposed to look like that and ok to use aquaphor and stick a piece of gauze in the flap crease. Part of that crust is starting to come off with the gauze as of a few days ago. Essentially, I wash the crease twice a day, fully dry with a clean washcloth (dabbing) and then use low heat setting on a hair dryer to dry completely before putting on more aquaphor and gauze.

other stuff- No one specified how much compression I need at this point. It would be helpful to have a list of common brands and styles used each week of healing after ditching the binder. I already had a pair of high waisted fanka brand leggings and Maidenform waist and thigh slimming shapewear (one body suit that fit below my bra, one that went over the bra, and another that pulled up and slimmed waist and thighs) I also bought a girdle style version from Shaperx with a lot of compression but not comfortable to sleep in. For sleeping comfortably , the Fanka leggings worked best for me.

My hopefully final post op appointment is on Thursday this week. I am hoping to hear that we can schedule revision surgery before the end of the year because I’ve already met my deductible and would prefer to not have to get there again next year! I can’t wait to get the skin flap removed and round things out a bit.

Good luck to all who are about to go through this and those that are recovering!

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Week 6 : post op appointment-

Went in for my 6 week post op appointment. They were able to remove the scab on my belly button and there’s only a very small area that hasn’t healed yet on my abdomen. I was cleared to use silicone scar strips on the other parts of the abdominal incision and am supposed to just use aquaphor around the edge of the belly button.

Apparently a small part of my flap incision re-opened and was leaking fat. The NP cleaned out the dried fat and dead skin at my flap incision with a scissors (kind of smelled bad when it came off). It freaked me out but apparently it’s not uncommon. I have to place clean gauze in the flap crease until it heals, no aquaphor. Sadly no pool for me this labor day weekend, but they did say I was ready to get my revision surgery two weeks from now which is great news.

Since I’m still healing I will continue drinking Juven and adding collagen to my coffee every day. Wearing my compression leggings instead of the shapewear now, much easier to deal with.

I’ll post again after my revision. Again, good luck to all :hugs:

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Revision surgery update

I had revision surgery (outpatient) where the flap skin was removed and my breast skin and nipple was draped over the flap and reconnected to the mammary fold area.

I did end up getting another drain which was a bummer. It’s the only part that hurts, so hopefully the drainage won’t take long to get to 20 ccs a day.

Taking Tylenol amd ibuprofen with occasional oxycodone to manage pain.

I’ll post again after my my next post op appointment.

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Update after post op appointment-

Drain was removed at approximately 5 days after surgery, though could have come out sooner if the weekend hadn’t gotten in the way. it took 2 days to get to less than 20 ccs this time. After the drain was removed, I only needed tylenol and ibuprofen a few more days.

I still have some swelling a month later, apparently it will take a while to get the lymphatic connections going again to drain the fluid. I’ve been doing lymphatic massage every week or so.

I’m wearing a wireless bra, high waisted fanka compression leggings, and a compression tank top. Waiting to hear how long I’ll have to wear those and when I can really start exercising again other than walking.

I’ve been alternating silicone scar strips and scar gel, no noticeable improvement in the way the scar looks yet and I have a small divot where the skin pulled apart a bit before it healed. Hopefully that will fill in soon. Belly button still seems deeper than before and I hope that will flatten out after the swelling resolves.

As always, for anyone going through this, I hope this helps..