Getting organised for chemo?

Hi there everyone

I’m due to start chemo in a couple of weeks and feel like I should be getting organised. I know I will have an appointment at some point with the chemo team but I’m keen to get ahead. (Aside from anything else, I have M.E. and several other fatigue-inducing illnesses which severely restrict my energy and therefore time to get things done.)

I’ve read through the advice on here, and Macmillan, but I guess I’m looking for more practical, personal opinions now like - what do you take with you, what do you actually DO for all that time, how do you feel during/in-between rounds, advice on food when nausea is a problem, other nausea help, etc etc etc.

Any help at all would be gratefully received please!!!

:two_hearts: Doris :two_hearts:

Hi Doris74

It’s 3 years since I had IV chemo but one thing I remember is that I rarely made use of much in my bag! One problem was that I had to have the cannula in my dominant arm, having lost all my left lymph nodes to the surgeon. Every time I fancied doing a puzzle, reading the paper, even unwrapping a sweet, it was very limiting. Hopefully you won’t be in that position. Take something to make you feel cosy, something you can put round your neck or legs if the chemo suite is air-conditioned. It can get chilly sitting there for several hours (there’s an awful lot of waiting around). Music to listen to on your headphones, a kindle, a tablet - they might be of use but don’t expect to be able to type away or turn the pages of a good paperback - holding a book open can be problematic. I took sugar free sweets and water (but they offer you water, tea, coffee…), a cashmere scarf, wore ‘just in case’ clothes like comfy joggers, cosy socks, warm hoodie and took plenty of things I couldn’t do because I couldn’t use my arm without setting off a beeper!

They understand nausea and side effects much better nowadays. You’ll be given a steroid, an anti-histamine and anti-emetic in your pre-chemo drip so you don’t need to worry about feeling ill. I never saw anyone being sick (my phobia) and only once witnessed a potential allergic reaction that was so swiftly and effectively dealt with that the patient continued her treatment but at a slower rate! They will provide you with a vast goody bag of preventative medications to take home. I’d say use them as prescribed rather than when you think you might need them, particularly the anti-emetic tablets. Take them regularly until you know how the drugs make you feel (it will change and it will improve as you get used to them - then you can use the meds ad hoc). You may have constipation (senna) or diarrhoea (loperamide) - you won’t know till you have your treatment. Depending on how strong the steroid, you may suffer from insomnia - or you may just want to sleep and sleep.

Mouth problems are common. The hospital does provide mouthwash but it could strip paint! Probably makes ulcers worse. A medical herbalist working for a breast cancer charity recommended a calendula (marigold) infusion and I still use it daily. You can buy dried marigold petals from Holland & Barrett, Amazon or a health food shop. I just put a tablespoonful in a small infuser, leave it for 10 minutes, remove the petals and let it cool. The soggy petals actually can be used to make tiny compresses that really do sooth ulcers, assuming you don’t get many and they are accessible! You will experience changes in taste which you have to experiment with. I lived on a very bland, nursery food diet for the duration, anything that didn’t require much cooking (ugh), didn’t smell and didn’t need much chewing. But some people do the opposite and dive into curries, things with strong flavour. 

It may seem a long time (some treatments need to be administered gently) but it’s unlikely you’ll sleep as there is constant beeping from the various machines, nurses checking on you and other patients chatting. If you don’t want to chat, plug in your headphones - no one minds. Don’t expect to finish on time, so make sure your transport is flexible. All it needs is for your notes not to have been updated or lack of a second member of staff to supervise the checking of the drugs (they are very thorough) to set you back an hour or so - and I was never called in on time!

I hope all goes smoothly for you. Hopefully others will add to my suggestions. It’s stupid o’clock, I have chemo insomnia and I’m not sure what I’ve written lol. Hope it helps though. Just don’t worry about it - it’s all manageable and closely supervised and monitored. Best of luck,

Jan x

Hey Doris, I think jaybro really covered it but I would just add in terms of nausea (which I had pretty bad on EC and to a lesser extent on Paclitaxel) the biggest mistake I made on my first session was to come home and eat a snack. I had a cup of tea and some cake and I can never eat that cake again! I’ve barely been able to drink tea throughout either. After that experience I learned to eat very plain breakfast and just nothing when I come home unless it’s late and I’m hungry and then, really plain like toast. The first few days are the worst in my experience and then nausea eased and I would crave random specific foods but struggled with metallic taste- even water tasted horrendous and be really careful to make sure you are not just sipping it because of the taste. You need to drink plenty to flush your system and help you feel better. I also found dry mouth a problem but got pastilles from the pharmacy which helped.

In terms of what to do, if you are sensitive to antihistamines like me, you might just sleep the whole way through! If not, as per jaybro, chat, tablet/ phone, books… Listen to music…

Best of luck 

Dear Doris,

Almost 3 weeks ago I had my first iv chemo so here is my experience since then, maybe you will find it usefull. 

When I went to the hospital I took with me bottle of water, sliced apple, some mints, and I had good breakfast before I went (very tasty porridge with fruits) I wasn’t stressed at all as I didn’t really know what will happen during taking the chemo. All that time - about an hour - nurse was next to me as well as my partner. All was good but at the end it wasn’t… I feel very weird like I guess drunk or drugged (no idea as never been drank or on drugs LOL) and nurse reacted quite quickly as she gave me sth to stop allergic reaction (I think that was it). After 15 minutes I was back on track and we went home with shopping on the way. As I got steroids for 3 days the nurse said I will be fine and the worse can be day 4-5th. I got anti sickness tablets and take them only on day 1st and because nothing happen I didn’t take any more. I was reading a lot about side effect, what to expect etc… but I was so convinced it will be sickness and vomiting that I missed first symptoms that my stomach was a bit unhappy on day 1st. It was like I ate sth and it stuck. Before I realised it will be my problem it was third day and my stomach was starting to hurt. I got a great help from nurses regarding what to take but I was down absolutely for 2 days. I didn’t vomit or anything like that just this heavy stone inside my stomach and pain. Before I started chemo I was reading a lot about easy to digest diet. It helps me to organise food for those days when was not able to eat a lot. I would say its good to have Gaviscon at home. Don’t forget it is very important is to drink a lot. To keep track on how much I drink I was having 2L water bottle close to me and that was absolutely minumum. 

Day 5th was the worse one but once went through the pain eased and I was going back on track starting slowly eating more. two days later I went for weekly shopping and since then up till today Im rise and shine LOL.

So it is really as everyone said - you don’t know how the chemo will affect you. Some people say that first chemo can be the worse one and then it was always better. Some say it can get worse every next time. Some say first two were ok but third was really bad. I learnt a lot from my first after-chemo and Im better prepared for round two. I truly believe it wont be as bad as the first time and being positive attract good thing so fingers crossed.

I wish you have good experience during chemo and in between. 

Take care,

Eriskay

Hi Doris74

Just wondering how you got on?  I had my second round of EC yesterday and can attest that everyone’s experience is different.  I have a PICC line and can therefore work through my treatments as I’m able to use my laptop easily - a good way for me to squeeze in hours before the brain fog kicks in!

For me there was no nausea at all - opposite problem of eating like an absolute pig all the time, apparently it’s the steroids….

Main side effect for me after the first round was dizziness, light headedness and brain fog for about a week.  Advice from another forum member - do not risk driving if you don’t feel 100% capable!

I have been very lucky so far, I hope the same applies for you xx