Jane Plant diet - the new, friendly & supportive thread

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Thanks for starting this up Norberte. I was feeling a bit low after what happened on the other thread. I find discussing diet really helpful. I have a tendency to let my new good diet slip so the support on this site is invaluable.

Thanks to Finty’s posting on another thread about green tea I’ve got into that again. I do like to have organic where possible and found another place to order from:: Jing teas.
jingtea.com/

I’ve ordered the Dragon Well green tea and the moroccan mint and green tea. Should be here today or tomorrow. If anyone’s interested I’ll let you know what they’re like.

So pleased you have started this thread I never posted on the other one but really found it helpful and informative about diet and agree with Elinda the support on here is invaluble,
Celia.x

Hi, girls. I will be popping on here as diet interest me a lot. just been diagnosed with osteoporosis, so even more reason to eat the “right” stuff!
Carolx

Hi as one who has struggled a bit to eat and drink the right things I have just found a green tea I can enjoy. It is Taylors of Harrogate Green tea with peach. Despite my sweet tooth I can drink this unsweetened. Really delicious. Good luck to everyone making changes.

As the nutritionist said at the young womens forum every little bit helps. She said that until there is strong evidence on one particular diet the very best things we can do is keep our BMI between 21-25, eat more than 5 potions of fruit and veg a day and vary them- make sure your shopping contains every colour of veg/fruit and limit protein as we tend to eat way to much. Drink 1/2 litres of fluid a day- cut down alcohol as far as we can and give our livers a break completely when we can. She also said lots of other things about portion size and carbohydrates. It was very useful and she made alot of sense- she is an oncology dietician and was talking using the lastest research, so I had a lot of confidence in what she said. It also seemed doable, for someone with 2 little children to feed, in between hospital appointments, chemo and life. If any one has any questions about other things she said please pm me or post a question on here. debx

Me too i love the discussion on diet and it’s really good to hear what other people are doing and info they have on the subject.

Thnaks you ladies.

Jxxxx

Midge, was that the swindon YWF you refer to? I was there, and the dietician had had cancer herself and the message was pretty much as you pointed out.

Re the green tea, I have definitely found it’s worth paying more for the really good stuff. Not only does it have much more of the polyphenols that are meant to help, but it has a much more delicate flavour and none of the bitterness that some of the cheap ones have. You have to let it steep a long time though.

As an example, a cup of Chinese Ti Kuon Yin green tea brewed for 2 minutes will have 9 mg of polyphenols, but a cup of Japanese gyokuro brewed for 10 minutes will have 540 mg!

This lady has a rather inspiring story and sells the premium Japanese sencha tea:

tinyurl.com/ydqtchg

finty x

Hi

No Tina it was at the Newcastle younger womens forum. But she had also had cancer herself so it may be the same woman. I haven’t got the pack with me or I would write her name. I am sitting watching tax 2 going into my veins as I type this.

One thi g she did emphasis was if you use soya milk to make sure it has added calcium- and make sure you have enough magnesium in your system to absorb it. I suppose it makes sense. Debx

Hi, it must be the same lady, she had thyroid cancer and is a specialist supporting oncology. Did you enjoy the forum? Swindon was very informative. Glad I went, even though it was straight after my first tax! Hope it’s going in ok for you! But it sounds like the message from BCC is quite consistent. Tinaxx

Hi. Tina

I actually delayed chemo to go. It was well worth it for all sorts of reasons. The two days went in a flash. Got loads of information and got to know lots of women in similar situations and had a good laugh. Debx

I’ve been doing some reading about the sugar / cancer issue and found this very interesting research:

tinyurl.com/28epnz4

Brief summary: It is known that there is a strong correlation with high blood sugar and cancer risk, but there is debate about exactly what the causal relationship is, if any. This research (looking at lung cancer cells) showed that restricting calorie intake by restricting glucose resulted in healthy cells living longer, but pre-cancerous cells died out in large numbers. So in very simplistic terms, cutting out sugar starved the cancer. The researchers were looking at this in relation to the theory that calorie restriction is associated with longer life spans.

finty x

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Hi All
Thanks for starting this thread, I have lost my way a little just recently diet wise, I have steadily piled on weight since my treatment. I’m always blaming it on the Tamoxifen but it cant be solely responsible. Need a boost to get back on to a healthy eating plan. Like the sound of the flapjacky/brownie things!!

I also need to get a grip. I didn’t put any weight on throughout my treatment (surgery, chemo and radiotherapy) but my weight is steadily increasing - I wasn’t light before!!. So any help/advice would be appreciated. A friend and I are going to start Weightwatchers when she returns from holiday in 10 days. I need to loose a couple of stone. My tendancy is to trough when I’m feeling anxious or down in the dumps which seems to happen quite a lot lately.

Anyone seen the “Anna Richardson-Body Blitz Diet” Book, five Rules for weight loss, 14 days, no wheat, no dairy, no sugar, no carbs after 6pm, no sugar, no alcohol. Saw it advertised on amazon. She lost 2 stone on it and kept it off.

So what did she eat!!!

I guess veg, fruit, pulses, meat, fish, eggs, carbs with no wheat (oats, rice, couscous) - it’s extremely restrictive, but it does work. I do something similar although not as extreme - I have brown bread and a small amount of alcohol. But I am losing 0.5 - 1 pound per day - still a long way to go, but have never had a diet so successful since doing the dreaded cambridge diet in the 80’s!

For anyone with a bread machine can I recommend trying a spelt loaf. It is now the only bread we make, its absolutely delicious as it’s not heavy like wholemeal, has a slightly nutty taste and very crunchy when toasted. Apparantly spelt is more nutritious too. It’s what bread used to be made from in the past up until medieval times I believe before the wheat we have today. It is a related grain.
I know some women have experimented with making spelt pastry too - haven’t tried that yet.

I got a bread machine last year and haven’t regretted it. It means you know exactly what goes into your bread, no additives and you can make it entirely organic if you wish. Plus the smell of the bread baking as you wake up is lovely.
Elinda

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