Hi Lesleydonna, I just wanted to wish you Good Luck with all these tests and scans you are having at the moment.
I was diagnosed with both bc and bone mets in 2003 when my hip shattered as I was walking home from work. I didn’t fall over my hip just fractured and I was rooted to the spot, couldn’t move.
I had a hip replacement and in 2007 I’m feeling pretty good, much better than I felt in 2003. I take, need, no pain killers and my CA15-3 markers have been in the normal range since Summer 2005.
I eat a lot of organic foods, especially organic dairy but I also enjoy meals out, chocolate etc etc. but it’s the response I’ve had to hormonal treatments so far that (I think) have kept me well.
There are many, many more good treatment choices for women with mets now, both er+ and neg. I haven’t ever given up hope of living many more years to come.
You will take back control, (it just takes a little while) and you will find the best way for you to deal with this. Whether you embrace Jane Plant or conventional treatments or both, whatever you choose, I wish you well.
Love Belinda…xx
The five minute interview THE FIVE MINUTE INTERVIEW
J: Hello Supersue. Thank you for agreeing to be interviewed about Jane Plant’s book.
S: It’s a pleasure to be here on Newsnight, Jeremy.
J: First of all, have you read Jane Plant’s book?
S: Yes.
J:From cover to cover?
S: Well, not quite. It isn’t exactly the most riveting read, is it?
J: I know just what you mean. However we need to get back to the point. Do you agree with her ideas about preventing breast cancer?
S: No, not really.
J: Why not?
S: I don’t agree with her approach.
J: Why not?
S: She’s not very scientific; she uses a process of induction rather than falsification.
J: That sounds a bit technical. Let’s quickly move on. So, are you saying that you haven’t given up milk?
S: Of course I haven’t given up milk. I’m a Western European with the gene for Lactase the enzyme that digests milk protein – the gene that has probably given the human race its most important evolutionary advantage in the last thirty thousand years. Honestly. Didn’t you read the BBC News website this morning?
J: Don’t get shirty with me. I’ve interviewed Michael Howard you know. So, you haven’t given up milk. Have you changed your diet in any way?
S: I consume a little less milk but more fruit and vegetables, a little less alcohol but more champagne.
J: And have you changed your lifestyle in any way?
S: Not exactly. I need to be more adventurous and take more exercise. Have you any ideas?
J: I’m the interviewer here. I’m not paid to have ideas. In fact come to think of it I’m not sure I’m being paid for this at all.
S: That’s not surprising. BCC is a charity you know. What did you expect?
J: BCC? I thought I was doing the interview on behalf of the BBC.
S: Never mind. How do you fancy a quick glass of something bubbly? I’ve got a bottle in my bag.
J: Don’t mind if I do. Cameraman, get a couple of glasses will you? Are you hungry?
S: A little.
J: I usually bring a few nut cutlets as a snack. Would you like some?
S: Ergh¦.yuk¦.I mean yes.
J: Sorry if they’re a bit chewy. I’ve had them in my snack box for a couple of months.
S: Vmmm nmmm thmmm ymmm.
J: What was that you said?
S: Very nice thank you, especially when dipped in the champers.
J: You ought to try these ones in linseed oil dressing although they are a bit slippy when you try to hold them¦¦. Oops.
S: I think you’ve just shot the cameraman.
J: I accidentally did the same thing to my dog the other day. Don’t worry. The chap will be fine once he’s recovered from the concussion.
S: So what now? There isn’t anyone filming.
J: I suppose we’d better end the interview. It’s been fun meeting you. You’re much better looking than John Prescott. Do you want to come to dinner some time? I’m very good at roast quark with vegeburger.
S: Sounds nice.
J: And can you give this envelope to BCC?
S: What is it? Your fee?
J: No. A cheque.
Good to debate As Louise said near the beginning of this thread Jane Plant does indeed raise strong reelings, and sharp debate…on all sides.
Sorry to hear that some women have complained about this thread…maybe it should be in hot topics…but it was started here with a question for views and so views are here…and I reckon very healthy too to have discussion among women with breast cancer…no we are not all the same and we don’t all feel or think the same about cancer treatments.
Thanks to Supersue for a very funny piece. Now I would like to see Jeremy Paxman interview Jane Plant.
Thanks Jennyw for drawing my attention to breascancer.org’s definition of Stage 4. You’re right that spread to superclavicular (sp?) lymph nodes in neck is in breastcancer.org’s classification counted as Stage 4. In other classifications Stage 4 is defined as spread to organs such as liver, lungs, brain and to bones. Susan Loves refers to spread above the collarbone as regional recurrence not metastatic spread, and I think this is an important distinction since regional recurrences though more serious than local ones are not invarriably incurable. I think Jane Plant’s failure to explain this difference is telling.
But I won’t persuade anyone who is already persuaded by Jane Plant…though I hope that some people not persuaded might think again.
I’m pleased about anyone who does well and lives longer than expected, but I think to put that survival down to a diet is misguided.
I feel pretty pleased myself that despite a poor prognosis and diagnosis of locally advanced breast cancer I’m still here well much more than 3 years later to still argue the toss, debate, and tell other women that I’ve simply been lucky and enjoy my food, dairy and all. No one wants my book on how to survive breast cancer without a positive attitude, a fighting spirt, a dairy free diet and a healer but I’m open to offers.
Oh and I have read Jane Plant’s book…more than once.
Jane
Please keep within the code of conduct I have had to remove a post as it contravenes Breast Cancer Care’s code of conduct. Can I remind forum members that personal attacks on individuals are not permissible under the rules of this forum.
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dear moderator and ladies,
im sorry to see that such an innocent question caused such a lot of controversy. I agree everyone should have an opinion, im a bit opinionated myself sometimes, but i was sorry to see that the moderator had to step in a couple of times. i feel a bit like my question got sidetracked in the flurry and although im new to this posting business im sure thats not what is meant to happen.
lesley donna
What is going on??? I’ve just read the post by the moderator and it saddens me that some people feel they have to resort to personal insult to defend their point of view. Why are you doing this? Why be so aggressive? We’re all having a bad enough time without sinking that low. It has actually made me feel that I don’t want to use this site any longer. It feels like if you express a view that some disagree with, then basically they will go for the jugular. Those of you who have done this know who you are and should be ashamed. We’re all having a rough enough time without turning on one another.
Geraldine
I saw the post that the moderator removed, and no Breast Cancer Care members were attacked, insulted or criticised in it.
The person the moderator felt was under unacceptable attack was Jane Plant.
It was a strongly worded post, but made valid points.
I think the moderator’s action was unnecessary.
Hi Geraldine, just wanted to reassure you I also read the post before it was removed last night and no Forum Member was criticised in any way.
Locking thread Dear forum members
After discussion with the moderation team, I am going to lock this thread as it is no longer on the original point.
Can I remind members that any questions about the moderation of the site should be directed to the moderator’s email box and not posted on the site itself.
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