LIPOFILL - advice needed please

Does anyone have any info on Lipofill that I can read please, any links or previous posts on here maybe?

I was advised today that this could be an option for me but info was very limited and I have to wait a few months before I will get chance to get the details from a surgeon who does the procedure.

I am told that it is done over several procedures, all with general anaesthetic, as the breast has to be filled a bit at a time. I just wanted to arm myself with the facts before considering it further.

Thanks for any help.

Hi,
I am visiting our local specialist on this in Dec to talk about it. However my boss had it and said there was nothing to the procedure really although she was disappointed at how little could be done in one go and then you lose a % of that. She has not decided yet if she will go in for another go. The surgeon I saw said I was a good candidate as not much to do but there were things to consider. the fat can go into a lump which then has to be biopsied and analysed. He also said the fat can cause calcifications so it may lead to further investigations in the future and more biopsies to check it is just the fat and not Bc so can cause extra worry. Well that was enough to worry me so waiting to see the doc who does it all the time to ask how often these problems occur before I make up my mind. Please let me know if you find out any more and good luck in whatever you decide. So sorry I did not have very cheerful news and if I see mine first i will post back for you
Lily

Fluffyface

I’ve not heard of anyone having lipo filling to fill the entire breast but thetrumumshow was actually waiting for such a procedure. It would have been 4 lots 4 months apart and I guess all under GA. I’m not sure she is proceeding now but she’ll chip in if she’s around.

I had lipo filling around my implants in September and it was a doddle, no pain to speak of, was packed full of anaesthetic that lasted 2 days so was fine afterwards. I had no info on it really before proceeding - just a lot of faith! Not that many surgeons do it and some are very cautious when implants are near the surface of the skin and won’t do it at all. My original surgeon was very coy about it and about the longterm effects but he turned out to be incompetent in other areas so I’ve no faith in him anyway.

Eva Weiler-Mitthof was the first surgeon in the UK to be trained and she did her training in France, Lyons I believe - there is a centre of cancer excellence there and I think Riccardo Bonomi (Worthing) did his training there too, and Elaine Sassoon.

Try Googling for information from other sites - there is bound to be details out there somewhere giving ALL the gory story from sucking it out, filtering it and pumping it back in! And yes, you do lose at least 30% which is why they make you wait 3-4 months for the next session, so that things can settle down and blood vessels link up and so on. If sessions are too close together you are just wasting resources and fat. They take the fat from hips, thighs, inner thighs and/or tummy. Mine was only taken from inner thighs and they still look precisely the same shape/contour and I am slim so was surprised it didn’t give me dents!

All in all a very easy fix and actually improves the quality of irradiated skin.

D

Thanks ever so much for your replies Lily & Dahlia. What you have both said is very reassuring.

I saw my BCN again this morning and I brought up recon/lipofill and she basically said that I should put it on the back burner for now and concentrate on my well-being and recovery for the next few months. Then, when I have my 1year screening in the Spring I can make a separate appointment to see a surgeon who specialises in this technique. My BCN was of the opinion that I should just be reassured at this stage that there are options available to me and not to dwell on them too much right now. I may well change my mind and decide against any futher surgery. I don’t know how I feel yet.

I had a WLE under the breast, so hopefully they just plump up the area affected and not the whole breast. I’d just be happy to have the indented scar area filled to push it out. I’m not looking for huge ‘Jordans’ (or Dolly Partons, if you are old school!!). Implants was mentioned to me but I am reluctant to ‘mess’ with the good breast.

I’ve seen on TV what they do to supermarket chicken breasts to plump them up with water so I am guessing it’s exactly the same type of procedure, which doesnt seem too bad to me.

I am 8st 3lb, 5ft 2", so I am hoping I won’t need to go on to protein diets etc to give me some extra pounds/fat to extract later on!! I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Do let me know how you get on next month Lily. If anyone else has anything to add I’d be happy to hear from them.

Thanks again.

Hello,

I’ve had the lipofilling twice this year. I had l.d. reconstruction almost 4 years ago, and afterwards was very skinny for a long time due to chemo weight loss, so my breasts were about the same size.

After chemo I started on Tamoxifen, and have gained weight everywhere except in the recon of course. So I have become more and more lopsided over time. Like many women, I did not want to have surgery/uplift on the healthy breast, even though it is much bigger and quite droopy. So by spring of this year I was ready to try the lipo on the recon.

It’s done under general anaesthetic - if it weren’t, it would have to be considered torture! Small punctures are made here and there around the stomach (or wherever fat is being harvested) so the vacuum/suction device can be inserted into the abdomen through very small wounds. Two surgeons do the work to get it done quickly. They scrape and suction out the fat, which is then run through a centrifuge in the operating theatre, to ‘purify’ it/remove water and blood etc. Then it’s put into syringes, then the surgeon squirts the fat into the recon, building up a nice new shape.

It took about an hour, they work fast. Stayed one night in hospital, then sent home on painkillers. Two weeks off work. Bruised and swollen. Had to wear tight, high-waisted control pants for 6 weeks afterwards, to compress the abdomen. That was uncomfortable, but when I didn’t wear them it was even more uncomfortable. For me the first lipo op was painful but manageable, and it was really great to put on a bra and see that both cups were filled!

What’s unpredictable is whether or not the transplanted fat cells will stay alive. It’s expected that 25 percent will die off, maybe more. In my case, unfortunately after a couple of months, my recon had shrunk back to its original size - pretty much all the fat cells died. I’ve since learned that taking brufin can kill off the fat cells, so maybe some women have been prescribed brufin as a painkiller after this op, by mistake?

It also wasn’t long before my abdomen was chubby again - I’m not sure if that’s due to eating, or Tamoxifen, or both.

I had the lipo procedure again a couple of weeks ago. This time I’m in much, much more pain, much more bruised and frighteningly swollen. I think this is because they did more liposuctioning, over a larger area, to harvest more fat. I was put on stronger codeine-based painkillers because tramadol (small green and yellow capsule) made me throw up. Also I was put on anti-biotics, in case the swelling could lead to infection. Signed off work for 4 weeks this time, which is a good thing because there is no way I could go back to work after two weeks being this sore. Gradually the swelling is going away, and I’m catching up on sleep with the stronger painkillers.

The good news is my boobs now match again in a bra, although I am still being encouraged to consider uplift on the healthy breast. I am worn out by procedures and stress though, so I doubt that I will agree to that. Over the next few months I’ll see if the transplanted fat cells live this time. If they don’t, I have already decided that I will not go through lipo a third time - it’s just too painful physically and emotionally to keep repeating it without a guarantee of success.

I don’t want to put anyone off, but I agree with the nurse who said to put it on the back burner for a while. There has to be room for enjoying life without looking forward anxiously to extra or unnecessary procedures. I’ve been reconsidering my attitude to my appearance, and whether or not I should care about being lopsided. All of it has been done to try to feel and look normal, but I’m beginning to accept that, for me, it may be futile to keep pursuing normality.

That is my experience of trying to use lipo to build up a recon - but for women who are just looking to get a small dent filled, or to even out a smaller difference in size, the whole procedure will be far less painful because less fat will need to be harvested.

It is great that the procedure is available. But for me, having gone through it twice, and experienced considerable pain and not much success, I can’t recommend it to anyone with a similar big difference in breast size as me, I’m sorry. I guess it depends on your tolerance for pain, and your employer’s tolerance for sick leave!

Hi Buckwheat. Thanks so much for taking the time to give such a full insight into your experiences. It is certainly not a decision to be taken lightly, it seems. I know no procedure can guarantee anything but it’s good to read experiences like yours so that I can make an informed choice later on. I’d rather know all the gory bits, not just the good bits, and then I am armed with enough to be able to decide. I have got a low pain threshold, and a big fear of needles, although I can pat myself on the back for managing to get through the surgery/needles this year without blubbing and causing a scene!!

Like you say, I think it’s time now for me to try to enjoy life for a while before thinking of the next phase.

I wish you well with your second attempt. I have everything crossed for you. Do let me know how you get on.

Hi again fluffyface,

Thanks for your kind wishes.

I’m feeling better every day, the swelling and bruising continue to decline. So far the recon has shrunk just a little bit - hopefully that will be it. But whatever happens, I still feel strongly that I do not want to go through this a third time.

I’m glad it helps you to hear about other experiences, but I just hope you don’t assume that your experience will be the same. We are all different, and so are our surgeons.

Good luck to you whatever you decide in the future. For now, I hope you will enjoy life without more painful procedures and scary needles looming!

Buckwheat

Fluffyface - if you look at my post about nipple reconstruction and fat transfer, that may give you some more information - fat transfer is the same as lipofill or lipomodelling - they are all the same thing.

My experience was very different to Buckwheat’s. I was pleasantly surprised that I had very little pain afterwards and only took a couple of doses of paracetamol. I guess it depends in part on how much they do at one go. I wouldn’t hesitate to have it done again as it was easy peasy for me and I am a wuss over pain levels!

I did have a lot of interesting-coloured bruising afterwards but it wasn’t painful for long - just a bit sore for the first day or two.

Good luck with your decision.