Lumpectomy results/oncotype

Hi :slight_smile:
I got my lumpectomy results a few days ago, and I’m still processing everything. The good news is the margins and lymph nodes are clear. The lump was 18mm, slightly bigger than the 17mm from the ultrasound.

It was initially grade 2, but after surgery, it’s now classified as grade 3. My original plan didn’t include chemotherapy, but with this change, they’ve sent it for an Oncotype score analysis. I’m HER2-, ER+ (8/8), PR+ (8/8), and 32 years old.

The written summary mentioned possible lymphovascular invasion, but this wasn’t discussed with me, and I’m unsure what it means?

My consultant said chemotherapy is now more likely, but we’ll wait for the results. I’m feeling anxious—up until now, I’d been staying positive, but now I’m back to feeling anxious and waiting like at the start.

Not sure why I’m posting this, but I’d appreciate hearing others’ experiences :slight_smile:

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:heart: also discuss with your team too so write all your questions down so you can write answers down too so you can remember what’s been said, sending :heart: I think there’s been a lot of us over the years who have had results change from a grade 2 to grade 3, please remember grade and stage are separate things :heart: ask away if you need to till the nurses get back to you :heart::two_women_holding_hands:we got you as much or as little as you need :two_hearts::two_hearts::sparkles::sparkles:Shi xx

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Hello, mine changed from grade 2 to 3 post lumpectomy. Actually I ended up having a mastectomy as they found it was invasive lobular but they didn’t give me chemo. I was so grateful for that!
I hope you don’t need it x

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Hi @glasgow12
Really sorry you find yourself on here but we are all here to help & support each other through!
I turned 43 last August & was diagnosed the 18th June last year when I was still 42.
I was diagnosed with grade 2 invasive ductal ER/PR Positive & HER 2 negative so the same as you basically. My tumour was 25mm in my right boob & was quite a deep lump below the nipple area.
I had a lumpectomy & sentinel node biopsy & bi-lateral beast reduction just so my boobs still matched up! Luckily I had big boobs anyway so I wasn’t too bothered by having a reduction.
After surgery I went for results! It all seemed very positive, they had taken the tumour with good clear margins & they were happy with how I was healing from surgery. They said I should just be having radiotherapy but couldn’t rule chemo out until I had the sample sent off for oncotype testing.
I felt really positive & then got the report through my door that said LVI positive. I didn’t know what it meant & my team hadn’t mentioned it so I googled it & felt like I had been diagnosed all over again.
When I got to speak to my oncologist he didn’t seem that bothered about it really. He said that it meant the cancer cells had been found in the blood vessels around the tumour, which I think then means that cancer cells could be carried in the blood or lymphatic system (my understanding of it anyway)
My oncotype score then came back as 25 & because of my age anything between 16 & 25 they advise having chemo.
I have just completed 6 rounds of chemo all 3 weeks apart! I had 3xEC followed by 3xDocetaxel! I start radiotherapy on the 11th March for 9 sessions!
Really hope you get a good explanation of everything! I sometimes feel like my oncologist just doesn’t really tell me everything & I like to know everything! I don’t even know what the absolute benefit of my chemo is predicted to have so I still have lots of questions too!
Anyway sorry for the big reply just want you to know you are not on your own x

Hi glasgow12,

Thanks for posting.

It’s understandable that you are feeling anxious after being told that your breast cancer has changed from grade 2 to grade 3. You might find it helpful to give us a call on our helpline on 0808 800 6000, we often find we can help more by talking on the phone, the helpline team have time to listen, talk things through and signpost you to more support and information if necessary.

As @laneycass and @shelbylou81 explain, it’s not uncommon for treatment plans to change as more information becomes available, but dealing with the uncertainty that this brings can be very stressful. Oncotype DX is used when the benefit of chemotherapy is unclear. It looks at the genetics of the cancer and can help your treatment team decide whether you would benefit from having chemotherapy.

The breast contains blood vessels and other tiny tubes called lymph vessels. If breast cancer cells spread into these vessels, it’s called lympho-vascular invasion. This increases the chances of the breast cancer coming back (recurrence), but having lympho-vascular invasion is different from having breast cancer in the lymph nodes. Your treatment team will use this information, along with other information gained following your surgery, including the size of the tumour, margins and the fact that the lymph nodes are negative, in addition to the Oncotype DX score, to decide the best treatment for you. As @Shi says, you may find it helpful to write down any questions you have in preparation for your next appointment.

Talking to someone who has had a similar experience can often be helpful. Our Someone Like Me service can match you with a trained volunteer who’s had a similar experience to you. You can be in touch with your volunteer by phone or email and they can share their personal experiences to answer your questions, offer support or simply listen to how you are feeling.

We also offer support tailored specifically for younger women with primary breast cancer who are aged between 20-45 years. This includes our Younger Women Together events that are run face to face and online. This support offers the opportunity to meet and share experiences with other younger women and get expert information in a confidential space. More information can be found on the links above.

As mentioned above, do call our helpline if you would like to talk this through or have any further questions… Your call will be confidential, and the number is free from UK landlines and all mobile networks. The number is 0808 800 6000, If you have hearing or speech difficulties prefix our number with 18001 and the call will go through Relay UK. Our helpline has access to telephone interpreters if language translation is required.

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