March 2026 chemo starters

The things I took out of it is plastic surgeons don’t really know what to do with you when you say you dont want to recreate your existing breasts and you want to be as small possible. Every couple of minutes they kept forgetting and no amount of reminding them seemed to matter haha

And they are confident that the flaps (diep/tugs etc) are better long term. There is less infection risk and less chance of needing further surgeries.

I am just struggling to make this decision based on the long term because for me to get there it involves maybe 9 months of surgeries and healing. And I am not looking for a big super pair of boobs anyway. I want just enough to fill a small bra. Surely small implants wont be any hassle for my body? But it doesnt matter how much I look into this on online groups there is no obvious answer. Some flaps work great, some dont. Some implants work great, some dont. Overall I think the flaps have a higher success rate. So it makes implants more of a risk even though you require a less invasive surgery. The fact is implants probably wont last forever. But honestly how do we know how long we have anyway? This is why I cant seem to make a long term decision because who knows what going to happen in the future

That probably answers your question @katie91 about why they dont prefer implants. Basically if your body rejects it, it does this by creating infection which sometimes mean you’ll need the implant removed and they try again later or have to go flat anyway. And sometimes the implants need replacing after 5-10 years. So its the future surgeries they want to avoid. Cant wait for your last chemo on the 16th!!! Did you think we would ever get there. Mine should be the 18th :heart:

Well done on finishing @jululemon What a relief it must be xxx

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Ahhh ok that explains it!! What a difficult decision to make!
Do you feel like your swaying to any decision at the minute or still not sure?

Have you managed to speak to anybody on here that has had either that could give advice? Although I suppose it’s the unknown of how each option will work with your body isn’t it and how you’ll react.

Xxxx

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All I know for sure at the moment is I don’t want the flap surgeries. It feels a lot for the both boobs. Things would be much different if it was just the one.

I have spoken to a few people and read lots here so I am hoping my final appointment with my original surgeon will sway me the way thats best for me :heart:

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As you’ve probably discovered @foxgem there are other threads on here about reconstruction vs flat. I didn’t have reconstruction and I got over my op very quickly indeed. It’s much quicker and simpler surgery. Less chance of complications . If you aren’t looking to “replace” your existing boobs and want something small, would you not be ok with going flat then using bra inserts? I have to say I don’t bother with anything, I was small (32B) before and yes I’m lopsided now as my MX was single but I don’t care! I’m sure if I used an insert I could look quite natural. It’s a lot easier than the other options.

As you know I’m tussling with taking hormone blockers - or not. There’s no right or wrong answer to these tricky treatment questions. You’ll work out what’s right for you :heart:

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Flat is definitely an option I’m considering. I’m going to really get into the 2 options with my surgeon. I’m kind of hoping that now ive got all the knowledge I can handle that one day soon the right answer will just pop into my head :joy:

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Headphones are the best… I hate all the bleeping from the machines.

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Hi @foxgem , I think the best piece of advice my breast surgeon gave me was to say, go away and think about it and in a few days time you’ll wake up in the morning and you’ll know what you want to do. He told me I could wait and have reconstructive surgery later. I had a single flat mastectomy in March before chemo. I think the main point I would share is that the operation is pretty simple. And did not affect me psychologically like I thought it might. You have been absolutely bombarded with incredibly difficult decisions and treatment options and been through chemo which is a trauma in itself. I personally think it’s good to give your body and mind some time to recover. It’s a funny thing, but when I am bumping up and down on my ride-on mower with just one boob bouncing around, a sneaky thought at the back of my head thinks it wouldn’t be so bad to be double flat, actually.!

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My thoughts exactly @jane2026 . Though not on a mower but when I’m running! If my BC were ever to recur in the other breast I’d have no hesitation in having another simple MX.

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Despite the reasons bringing us all here, I am bowled over at my luck at stumbling on such a supportive, empathetic and grounded group of humans. Thanks for listening to my brain dump - I did find it really helpful to write out.

I think I have my questions ready for the plastic surgeon on Weds and, depending on imaging and the surgeon’s advice, an idea of my preferences - delayed reconstruction or balancing surgery to give time for radio and healing - even if that means being flat for a year. Thinking long term, and minimising options for drama. Also feels quite reassuring to think of having the simpler op and hopefully shorter recovery in this active treatment phase, after all the chemo nonsense, and to get radio over and done with, rather than going through a very long immediate recon and then risking it having problems because of the radiotherapy.

Anyway, happy Friday everyone - I’m about to go and meet a friend for lunch and strictly not talk about boobies. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Hi @wibbles just popping over to see how everyone is doing near to the end of chemo. And saw your post.

Goodness what a tough time you have had with Hospitals and surgery. And now going through all this. :heart::heart:
Re : sleeping after a Mastectomy. This may be helpful:

I had Right Mastectomy in February. I had 5 lymphs removed that were all cancerous.

….On waking up, I saw such a neat scar. I was so relieved. I was given a Softie as I left hospital. Which I used for ages. I wore a Cancer Research Front Bamboo fastening, post mastectomy, pocketed bra, that stretches to any cup size, or simply stays flat. I love it, it is so comfortable and great when I want to stay flat some days.

I also got a Knitted Knocker. It is so cool in hot weather. So between the KK and Softie I have been fine. Both give me protection on my right side. They are soft and gentle on the skin. Not like the harder, more nylon based prosthetics that were too hard on new scars. I have a new prosthetic from my Trust, that I will use only for certain clothes that need a better fit. Again I would wear this on cooler days..

My scar had a seroma for numerous weeks/months. That has started to reduce now. The Softies and KK have been kind to that area. Harder types were too uncomfortable, pressed too hard against the seroma/scar tissue around that area. So I avoided these.

I tend to stay with KK and Softie or I go flat.

….I had a drain for 4 /5 days. Hated this, as the bottles are huge. And you have to avoid snagging the drain tube on things. So you need a good light, deep, cotton shoulder bag, with long comfy shoulder straps that allow you to manoeuvre the bag when sitting, sleeping, moving around. I was given one by my hospital before I left. It was so useful. I used two soft rounded clothes pegs to close the top of the bag and stop the bottle falling out in bed etc.

I was also given a heart shaped cushion by my Trust. All hand sewn by volunteers :heart:. These were for under arm use to take the pressure off my scar by my arm. I still use it.

I also used my shirts to cover the drain and stop it snagging.

….Due to lymph removal, the skin on my upper arm became super sensitive.

Id bought much larger, cotton, front fastening shirts, as I was restricted in my arm movements so couldnt use any of my TShirts/dresses with tight sleeves. All of them !!! So I became a frump.

But then my arm couldnt cope with the cotton. It was like sandpaper on my upper arm.

In desperation I bought an M&S silk shirt. Not for looks but for comfort. 2 sizes bigger/baggy. It was a game changer. It stopped the skin sensitivity in no time. I still use it now around the house and at bedtimes. It washes and dries really quickly. Unlike cotton.

…..Sleeping: i couldnt side sleep. It was too painful if I pressed on the scar. But not painful if I kept pressure off the scar area and lymph area. I rarely needed painkillers as I was very pro active. But back sleeping was huge for me as I hate back sleeping due to serious lower back and neck problems.

But the following worked….

I used a Vshaped pillow. Always. I still do. It allows you to rest your arms on the top of the pillow, and effectively pins you into a back position. So you cant wriggle as easily.

Re drain. I created a nest at the side of me. Using my heart shaped pillow to rest the bottle against. I kept my right side free and placed another pillow by the side of me, next to the V pillow, to rest my arm against and to keep my arm away from the drain. So make sure, the side you have your op on, has at least 2feet of free space to keep your arm away from the scar and drain.

Its best you sleep on the side of the bed opposite to your scar, then you can use your good arm to help push you out of the bed, and slide out of bed easily. Keeping your sore area safe. My op was right side, so I would sleep on the left side if in a double bed. Mine is single.

I had an OT come and run through techniques prior to leaving hospital, as my discs can quickly slip, if I move badly, and Im in agony for weeks. So getting the movements and sleeping right were seriously crucial for me.

Strangely it all worked fine. My bed is single, so I placed a piano stool by the side of the bed to extend its width on the right. I also got a step for the left side to get me into the middle of the bed without needing to wriggle myself over.

My biggest help was having a recliner bed and being slightly elevated. You can get under the mattress wedges from disability aid shops, that do the same for normal flat mattresses. Or you can elevate yourself using a selection of firm pillows. I found sitting up slightly was really comfortable and took pressure off my spine. It stopped me wriggling.

Ive needed three V pillows, as they get squished and hard to readjust. So last week I bought a wool VPillow, from “The Woolshop”. You can buy online or over the phone. This has been great as it has zips to plump up the fibres. Ive also bought extra fibres to make the pillow firmer if needed. I bought one of their pillow cases more as a liner, as they too are zipped. Then ive placed a cheap pillowcase over that.

In the hot weather I was sweating too much and the fillings were getting damp. I didnt like not being able to wash the fibres, but the wool one I can take it out, wash and dry it. But actually, its regulated my heat better. So ive not noticed any damp areas. Sadly they are not cheap. But after 3Vshaped in 6 months, long term they work out cheaper. As they last for upto 10years.

…..im only just starting to sleep on my right side after three months.

I had been able to sleep abit on my left side for a couple of blissful weeks, just prior to chemo in May. But the PICC stopped all that. !!!

The left side sleeping, was a problem for many weeks, post op, as I couldnt cope with my right arm resting on my scar/seroma.

Hope this helps get your ideas flowing.

Others may have other ideas. Other experiences. But its good to be pre planned. It makes everything so much easier after the operation. Even if some things dont work, like cotton shirts, I still needed them in the hospital as I needed everything front fastening.

…..three months on. Im going to physiotherapy for my right arm movements as I have tightness from scar tissue from my elbow to the middle of my chest due to lymph removal. But I have far less pain. I can get items out of top cupboards better now, but I did by one of those grab canes, which helped a lot. I became old fast, but I was so glad I was sensible.

I also bought one of those disability sock aids. That was fantastic when I couldn’t reach down to put my socks on. I live on my own.

The pain from the scar was only from over stretching. Not a constant pain. By making adaptations re pillows, cushions…even now…pain/discomfort is minimal . I just need to gently stretch it bit by bit. As the removal of lymphs does tighten everything up. But its very tender in the first weeks. Sudden movements make your eyes water. So be careful.

Hope this helps. :heart::people_hugging::bouquet:

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Thank you, just home from a whole day since 8am at the hospital. IT too ages to transfuse the whole blood units. LOvelynurses stayed on an extra half hour at the end of their shift so I did not have to come back for more blood on Monday.
I was also told I am clo transfusion as they handed me a huge bottle of magnnsesisum citrate tbh the tablets are horse sized.

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THanks Joodles, tbh I am at capacity having use got home after being at the hospital from 7.45am this morning. THe lovely nurses saw the state I was in and stayed over at the end of their shift to complete the units of blood so I did not have to come back on Monday for the rest.
Downside was being told my magnesium levels are close to needing a transfusion as they handed me a huge bottle of what look like tablets for horses with instructions l must take them three time a day and if that does not work I will need a magnesium transfusion too. CHemo nurse assured me it’s not my fault, it’s down to a known possible side effect of the chemo drugs I have to have becoming cumulative. GOing to try a lot harder to keep eating iron folic and maganesium rich foods to try and get through the last two chemos. .

ANy thoughts on surgery can wait till after another blood test on Monday.

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Sending you huge hugs, love and strength through this awful patch @wibbles . :heart::people_hugging::bouquet::flexed_biceps:

You must be absolutely shattered. Xxxx

Shattered does not come close, right now my body can stop working its way through side effects from the chemo drugs.
IF a I wanted to try a bath I think l may dissolve from all the tablets etc to help me cope with the ruddy side effects.

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I’ve just had my first paclitaxol — onco didnt mention the day after, too. I kept the tight socks (v hard to get on ones) until I went to bed and then put on the ones that werent quite tight enough for half the night. I was was worried about blocking circulation too much! But your onco recommended that for you? Interesting. Id love more info from somewhere…

My heart really goes out to you @wibbles . :heart::heart_exclamation::bouquet::bouquet:

You are such a determined and wonderful lady. The strength you have is unbelievable, to get through all this. Its no easy ride… Thinking of you and sending strength. Rest as much as you can. Not easy with all the side effects I know. More like you are in a battle between mind over body trying to navigate it all. Xxx :heart::bouquet::people_hugging:

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Morning all, has anyone been told their blood pressure is too high? How have you been managing this?

Last Thursday at my picc flush the nurse said mine was far too high but maybe my 2 coffees and the walk id been on hadnt helped. Since then ive monitored it with a borrowed BP tester and its still too high. I have to take the reading on my leg so have to take away 20 from each number but even doing that Dr Google keeps telling me its bad. When I spoke to my breast care nurse Thursday she said if it stays high to book an urgent GP appointment. I feel reluctant to do this though because that will just mean I’m given pills and then the root of the problem wont be looked at. Or is the root of the problem the 7 chemotherapys ive had?

This journey has made me more resilient but underneath it all I fear I’m still that girl with health anxiety that can hear her blood pressure is up and then make it worse haha

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Sometimes blood pressure can rise due to white coat syndrome and anxiety. TBH you have been wise to raise this with you BCN as it might be to do with your chemo regime (ask your oncologist) or Ìt may be down to inherited genes or gaining weight. be wary of Dr Google and stick with the NHS and this Uk charity page for info https://www.bloodpressureuk.org/.
Most GPs will ask you to take twice daily readings taken at the same time each day taken for seven or so days to see if there is a pattern. only then will they consider if you need drugs to manage rising blood pressure. IF it needs treating its best to let your GP help you.

Sadly some of the chemo drugs do like to play havoc with us treat one thing and it may throw up another. Hope it’s simply proves to be one of those whilst on chemo things as you already have so much to get your head around right now.

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Thank you I’ll look at the website. Good tip about taking it at the same time each day I’m going to start doing that!

To be honest at this point maybe we should all be more concerned if our blood pressure wasnt high haha

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@foxgem Not had high BP myself that I know of - in fact she said it was standardly a bit low when I first started having chemo, which was news to me! - but I do have a standby prescription of BP drugs (Verapamil) which is used as a preventative for my headache condition. I’ve not had to use it yet, but is only for taking for the duration of the headache episode (normally about 4 weeks). I’m taking from that it should be safe enough for those medications to be a temporary support for your body while it needs it, so if GP or oncology recommend it during chemo then hopefully something you could taper off afterwards?

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