November 2017 Chemo Starters

Hi team ?, sorry I’ve been really quiet for a while, I’ve had some changes and they’ve taken some time to get used to.

So last week I was supposed to have my third EC. Unfortunately, the monitoring scan has shown that my tumour hasn’t responded at all, in fact, its grown to nearly 12cm. Firstly, that strikes me as a pretty bloody big bastard breast cancer (BBBC)! When I was first diagnosed (4.8cm in September) they were talking to me about chemo ‘melting the tumour away’ to nothing then doing a wide excision, so I really don’t know what to expect anymore.

Anyway, rather than bothering with more EC my consultant started Docetaxol straight away, followed by pertuzumab and herceptin 2 days later. Had an adverse drug reaction to the Taxol which was frightening but the nurses were amazing, so calm. After that we continued much more slowly, and fridays session was with 8 hours of observation just in case.
Got to be honest, I’m personally finding this a completely different ball game. I felt hungover with the EC which lasted less than a week, but after a week on the new regime I would say my side effects are much more visceral. Obviously, I’m emotionally knackered, but from my brief experience so far with the new refime i recommend clearing the diary completely for the week (I have slept almost constantly on some days), taking loperamide, and stocking up on bland food. Take paracetamol (or stringer) regularly for the bone aches which for me have become much worse and keep me awake at night (hello 3am). I can’t taste a thing, but my tongue and lips feel as though I’ve burned them and are very sore, red and swollen. Does anyone have any recommendations for this as I’ve not had it before? I wonder if it’s thrush?

Feeling back on my feet today but unsurprisingly, morale has taken an epic hit. Didn’t cry for a day or two then spent the whole weekend in bed sobbing. Gutted to have wasted those 6 weeks on EC. I asked my professor if this meant that there was a higher likelihood of it having spread distally and he simply replied “it means, as I said, the chemotherapy hasn’t been working”. Not sure when we do a repeat body scans, but now have massive scanxiety so too afraid to push for one. I guess it doesn’t really matter anyway, just as well to get the new drugs in and working. I know it’s important to be positive… but I’m absolutely gutted and need to find my feet again.

Anyway, that’s my week. I’m sorry to worry anyone else if I have, I know we all have monitoring coming up, but I hope you don’t mind me sharing with you guys, esp as we start looking towards the next phase of treatment. Keep Going x ??

Milliemoo, big hug for you darling. Speak to your bc nurse and tell her all your thoughts don’t bottle them up on your own, it’s what they are there for to help support and guide you, also ask to see if there is a support group in your local Mcmillan centre, there should be trained support people available. This is a journey we are all ???on but we have to take everything a step at a time and it’s ok that your mind is going ballistic darling we all have that it’s all part of the journey. Remember you are strong and beautiful and we will all get each other through lovely. ???:sparkles::sparkles:shi xx

Milliemoo, big hugs going your way ???

To tell the truth, my physical SE are not too bad, I can manage, but emotionally and psychologically I’m a wreck. I had a meltdown yesterday at the unit while having my third fec; I think it’s this xmas frenzy, everybody excited about the holiday… and I’ll be sitting at the table with my ex wearing a new engagement ring … I do it only for the girls, he’s their father at the end of the day, but for me personaly this is torture…

 

My next scan is on 13/02, but my onco, she is wonderful, said the breast already feels different, not so rigid, so hopefully the drugs are working. But still, it’s constantly there, at the back of your head … And you can’t get rid of these horrible scary thoughts about the tumour growing and spreading…

 

Lesly, are you sporting Kojak or still a panda bear? You said you had enough of the panda in one of the previous post ? I was the same, and just washed my hair??? ? or head rather ? three days in a row and now I’m a Kojak lookalike xx

MillieMoo, I am so sorry. That just sucks. I know how stressful it is having those scans. It must be really rough to hear that things are not showing the change we all long for. I don’t know if it is helpful, but I asked what it would mean if there was no response to EC when I had my scan. My oncologist said it wasn’t uncommon with some kinds of breast cancer and they would fast-track to Paclitaxel if that happened and that was okay even though he understood that it was unsettling and upsetting. It is so difficult to stay calm and not anticipate what is to come/might happen, but I was reassured that they have seen and adapted to all kinds of situations and responses to treatment. As Shi says, there are lots of ways to tackle this horrible disease and we will follow you onto your path when it changes. You are not alone. I felt really lonely as I tried to second guess what the scan was showing when I was lying on the couch in a tiny room yesterday yearning for progress, but then I thought of everyone on this board and all the women waiting outside. I was still scared and a bit tearful, but I knew I was also part of a team that is remarkable. I hope you know you are a valued member of our team too and we are here for you.

 

Anadan, you deserve ALL the hugs. This time of year is emotional and tough anyway, but throw chemo and cancer into the mix and you’ve got the ingredients for multiple meltdowns in my experience. I hope everyone responded to you with love and kindness. Be gentle with yourself my friend and own those meltdowns! We have all done it and been there. Any chemo nurse or patient will have understood and we all get it too. You’re allowed to feel all the feelings.

 

Lesley, well done on not only getting your PICC line with a calm cheerfulness that puts me to shame when I think about my pathetic worries about the port, but on managing to come up with a comparison that I reckon will make it into medical lectures and training videos. You are amazing. I hope tomorrow goes well for you. What time are you taking your place in the chemo chair? I am up at 3.30 p.m. 

 

And Shi, thank you for being there and being you. Your presence on this thread (and board) radiates warmth, humour and wisdom. I want to bottle you! xx

1000 for me tomorrow Annakarenina, so I get it out of the way first thing! Thanks for your kind words, but I’ve had my moments of pure panic and irattionability (is that even a word??). When I was waiting for a surgery date and generally being buggered about I was anything but calm and tranquil - whirling dervish springs to mind … and I was very vocal, kicking off to anyone who would listen!!

I’ve not had many tears along the way, and I’m quite an emotional person … Suoervet and DIY SOS gets me every time! I don’t know if part of me is holding back from the reality of it all as a self defence mechanism but I like to think that it’s because I accepted the situation very quickly, came to terms with it and just wanted to get to the end of treatment, whatever treatment meant, as quickly as possible.
I called my lesions my little aliens ? and I knew I wanted them gone ASAP. I think having surgery first has helped me a lot.

I did get a bit down earlier on thinking about a lot of you going on to have surgery after chemo and then radiotherapy… you won’t be there to hold my hand thru my radiotherapy. But I can give you heads up on surgery!!!

Annakarenin - let’s reconvene on the sofa tomorrow night!! I’ll bring the wine, you bring the nibbles!!

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Evening ladies! Thought I’d pop over from the oct thread and see how you all are.

 

Milliemoo so sorry things are not going as you’d hoped. As the others say try not to worry, just take each day at a time and I hope the new regime is much better for you. 

 

Anadan, you’re allowed to have meltdowns on this journey we all have them at some stage and as Lesley says if you cant have them now when can you?

 

Lesley, I think we’re very similar. I haven’t had any meltdowns since being on chemo but was a nightmare between surgery and chemo when I called up everyday asking if test results were in and was quite irrational when I suffered with a haematoma. I also wonder if I’m not dealing with it but am the sort of person that accepts problems and then wants to fix them quickly, hence why I’m in with the ??‍✈️Of our oct ? with ??to his head to make him go faster! I just want this over as quick as possible.

 

You’re all doing amazingly well ladies, just keep going and stay ???

Annakarenina, ???I want to bottle the beauty and compassion and love and laughs and support that we all have for each other on these threads too. Everyone is beautiful and amazing. Lesley, you won’t be alone on rads darling you’ve got the crazy train of Oct with you and we’ve got ladies from earlier threads looking after us all, we are blessed ???:sparkles::sparkles:shi xx

Meesh is our ???‍:airplane:?‍:airplane:That’s for sure, she takes care of all of us on Oct thread and is my hero ???love you meesh. ??:sparkles::sparkles:shi xx

We do sound similar Meesh , my brother from another another!!!
But I’ll let you be the ?‍✈️ You are way too scary for me to take control!! ???

Xx

Lesley, as Shi says you won’t be alone you can join us, we’ll look after you! Watch out for crazy Shi though she’ll have you ???and ?‍:female_sign:?‍:female_sign:?‍:female_sign:On the roof of our train spraying glitter cans everywhere ?:sparkles:??:star::sparkles::sparkles:?:star:Love you Shi ???

I think of Shi as Momma Shi, she looks after us all with her checklists of do and don’ts

I couldn’t have got this far without you all.

Background music of … can you feel the love tonight!!

Xx

Yes, Shi is crazy momma Shi, she definitely both brightens our thread but also looks after us too!

???it would certainly all be sparkly :sparkles:?:star::star::sparkles::star:?:star:

 

Good luck tomorrow Lesley and any others having chemo tomorrow hope the chemo treats you kindly :sparkles:?:star:??:star:?:star::sparkles::star::star:???

Hi ladies just catching up with you. Wow! You have had a busy few days it’s taken ages to read through the last 4 or so pages!

Great that you are over or nearing the half way mark. I think that makes a huge psychological different.

For those change to T are you on Docetaxel (taxotere) or Paclitaxel (taxel)? The latter is kinder and given weekly compared to taxotere on the three week timing. It’s more expensive so not offered routinely on the NHS but it’s an option for those who can’t tolerate taxotere.

Keep your upbeat support going lovely ladies and I sincerely hope that anyone having the cocktail this week will be clear of SEs and able to enjoy Christmas Day xxxx

Morning all
I slept surprisingly well, I thought the PICC might feel a bit odd and keep me awake but once again I was wrong!!

Gallons of water, a bit of brekky then off for my ???

If you fancy an instant pick-me-up I can recommend Snapchat!! It works great with a bald bonce and you get instant long lashes and amazing eye makeup!! I won’t to go to their classes!!

Have a good day everyone ??? and ???

Morning ladies

Just been catching up with the thread and as always there is so much support and love out there from everyone as we all go along our not so straight forward journey’s. You are a fantastic group of laddies.

I am at the moment feeling very blessed to be feeling back to normal and trying to get to grips with work emails and jobs around the house. Even had a late night shopping trip out and a glass of bubbles ?

Milliemoo - so sorry to hear what a time you have been having sending you big hugs. We are all here for you and sending the most positive vibes possible that we can.

Lesley and Annakarenina good luck today ? and Bythesea I hope yesterday was kind to you too ?

Happy Thursday everyone xx

Morning Ladies,
Good luck today Lesley and Annakarina x.
Milliemoo I have also been moved onto docetaxl and herceptin as my Tumor was not really responding. My onc says they like to see 50% reduction and mine wasn’t there. Really wish now I had asked her for measurements.
I see it that now we are on a better cocktail that we WILL respond to better. We have been scanned and they can see how we are responding. Some people just have to get their chemo with no idea what it’s doing to them so I kinda see our situation as a positive. The docetaxl can still shrink it and now you are getting more of what’s good for you and the herceptin will switch that BBBC off. Sending much love xxx
I had an exhausting day yesterday with early ferry for ECG. Then onc forgot to order my T which didn’t arrive till 2pm so I had cold cap on for ages Brrrrrrrrr! Then when we got home at 6 friends called to say the ceilidh band concert I thought was tonight was actually lastnight! Back home at midnight knackered but still had amazon Christmas shopping to do so lazy morning today :0) unit said aches and pains shouldn’t start till Friday and they have gave my the injections to start on Friday too which they said will make me ache ha woo hoo!!! Roll on the weekend xxx

Will do, thanks Lesley. Chin is still up :0)
Good luck today to you and your new port, hope all goes well and I’ll send Bon Jovi round when your back home xxx

Lesley good luck with treatment. By the sea with changing to t you might not need cold cap anymore, hair is supposed to grow back while on t, it’s the fec that makes it go. Meesh, Lesley what can I say, glitter and sequins and sparkles make me ???and happy​:sparkles::sparkles::sparkles::sparkles::sparkles:???love shi xx

Back home after 3 - half way wooohooo!!habing the PICC meant I was home nearly 2hrs early, just had to wait for the meds.

I managed to ask my nurse all about Docetaxel and I’ve been given the steroids to take pre 4

I’m feeling pretty whacked out so I’m heading to the sofa!

Hope everyone else is well xx