Reducing oestrogen naturally

At the moment I feel it unlikely that I’ll want to take an AI or, if I do give them a try, that I’ll stay on them for long so I’ve started changing my diet and looking at other lifestyle modifications.

 

At the start of this year I was around 6.5 stone overweight but have lost 2.5 stone over the last 6 months of chemo and I’ve switched from drinking a couple of (largish) glasses of wine 6 nights a week to having either none or a couple of glasses a fortnight if I go out for lunch. I’ve given up most dairy and am gradually going organic with about 80% of my diet being vegetarian. These are all enormous changes for me.

 

I’d be interested to hear from anybody else who’s gone down the same route (either with or without trying hormone therapy first) or who is planning to do so.

Hi 

I am 68 years old and had WLE and SNLB 3 weeks ago. Grade2. Margins all clear and nodes negative. I have been told I have a Nottingham index prognosis score of 3.15 which I understand means that my prognosis is good. I will have 15 radiotherapy next month . The MDT has said I should start to take Letrozole now for five years. Surgeon said it is not for my current treatment but is preventative. I have said I want a dexa scan first and that I want my radio over and a short break to get over all the emotional and physical hurt and will then decide if I want to take it. How do people decide on the risks and benefits of Letrozole  as I know some of the side effects can be really bad. I have used the nhs Predict calculator which suggest that  over 10 years I would be 1% better off with taking it but not really sure what that means. 

I was diagnosed straight to stage 4 so my position was very different to yours at diagnosis. I started Letrozole in October 15 along with Denusomab for my bones. I have been incredibly lucky on Letrozole as I haven’t really had any side effects which affected my daily life. I did, however, have to stop my denosumab, due to a problem with my jaw, for about 10 months in total but this has now resolved and I’m back on the treatment.

 

When I got my diagnosis I wasn’t overweight, had never smoked and was only a social drinker, ate (what I then considered) well and although I didn’t go to any gym or classes was a very active person and walked a lot. I did however, have a very sweet tooth, cake and chocolate over wine any day for me, was a real night owl and had had considerable stress in my life having nursed both my parents.

 

As I’ve said my position is very different being stage 4, no surgery etc., straight onto aromatase inhibitors, that said I truly believe lifestyle changes have helped me. I feel very well and as I said don’t have any side effects from the Letrozole that affect my daily life. I made dietary changes, giving up processed foods and anything from a cow, only eat natural sugars ie fruit and honey, very little dairy using goat, sheep or plant milk and yogurt, mainly plant based meals, I do eat some organic chicken and lamb and wild caught fish, always organic whenever possible. I take several supplements with my Oncologists approval, now go to bed most nights at a reasonable time and joined a couple of exercise groups, I walk more and cannot recommend Tai Chi enough, and importantly try to eliminate unnecessary stress from my life, easy to say and much harder to do! I’m very lucky that my Oncologist is lovely and so easy to talk to and she is aware of what I’m doing, she doesn’t say much but did have more to say about the effects of stress. Shortly after my diagnosis I went to the Penny Brohn Centre in Bristol, it’s a charity and absolutely brilliant if you want to take an holistic approach. They now do outreach courses but I would go to the centre for the two days if you can, you can take someone with you for support, in fact they seem to recommend it the first time you go, and it’s free, although I think most make a donation but there is absolutely no pressure to do so.

 

I cannot say anything about your position as it is so different to mine, I’m not under any illusions that doing this will cure me but do think it keeps me as well as possible and in a better position to deal with whatever lies ahead. While I appreciate it isn’t for everyone, importantly I’m happy with the changes I’ve made and genuinely enjoy my diet, don’t miss chocolate at all and if I want an odd cake have it, but find I rarely do, and I feel far better than I did before my diagnosis, Kate xx

Hi Kate - as you say, I’m in a rather different situation from you and might be planning different actions if I weren’t. Unfortunately for me, looking at AI side effects, virtually all of them are things I have problems with already - on top of which the joint pain I’ve been getting from Taxol/Herceptin (not sure which) has made me realise that there’s no way I could live with that for years just for a few percentage points of improvement. Not only would I have a poor quality of life but virtually no life at all.

 

For me, at 68, widowed no children or family, it just doesn’t seem worth it.

Thank you that is helpful