Side effects and Cording/lymphedema - help

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone has any information on how to manage having cording and lymphedema please. Currently having physio once a week but it doesn’t feel enough. The tightness and stiffness in my arm, chest and shoulder are getting progressively worse. Any tips on what helped others please? I hear cupping and possibly acupuncture.

On another note, I am on Tamoxifen and Zoladex. Going into my 3rd month now. Any suggestions on if different brands have an impact and if taking the Tamoxifen in the morning or in the evening is better? I appreciate this journey is different for everyone but it’s hard enough coping with the diagnosis and all the treatment only to be fobbed off by pharmacists when you asking for some help. Do the side effects get worse with time, or 2 months in do you know what you’re going to get? Besides the pain from the lymphedema and cording I have dreadful joint pain, hot flushes, insomnia and low mood, all manageable but it does get me down and I am trying to take care and establish best times to take the medication or anything else to help mitigate and manage the side effects better.

Thank you for any advice or suggestions.

Hi dear, sorry you are going through this experience. Unfortunately we have different treatments so better you are taking with your nurse, is ok to complain about all this.
The sides effects you notice could be from your medicine, so bettyyou open a diary and talk with your nurse about.
Cording and lymphedema are sides effects of lymph nodes removed and there are a few things to do to improve your movements. But also the nurse from your breast surgery should advise you about when you left the hospital, but in time will be fine.
I got a set of exercises from my surgery team and physiotherapist and I have to do them 3 times daily, if you have them do don’t stop them, also are available on YouTube if you search exercise for lymph nodes removed and mastectomy,
For lymphoedema are also available on YouTube a few gentle massage to drain the lymphatic system. I will try to send a link here.
Hopefully you will manage and you will be better. I am on my 3 month after the surgery and still feeling underarmpit something but not to bad, my movements are back but I still do my exercises.
Please talk with nurse and physiotherapist and ask for more information.

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@Camy, thank you so much for this!!!

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Hi NicsB

Late to reply, but hoping you will still be notified …
I had cording following double mastectomy. It occurred in the right arm first (upper arm to wrist). I religiously did the stretching exercises in the Breast Cancer Now leaflet (usually provided by Breast Care Nurses during the surgery phase of treatment) at least once a day. It then developed in the left arm following 2nd surgery (axillary clearance that side). The cording wore off and eventually disappeared after a few weeks (maybe a month or so). I still do the exercises 18 months on (maybe once a week) as it seems to keep scar tissue looser and more comfortable.

I developed lymphoedema 6 short weeks following surgery. (Cancer - the gift that keeps on giving.) It is in my left arm, most noticeably in the palm and back of hand, and the base half of my fingers. Initially, I consulted 3 private lymph. therapists for a few sessions. The first did Manual Lymph Drainage, massage, heavy strapping (which my partner and I failed dismally at in our own attempts!) and received compression garments. The other 2 did the MLD which had some effect but any improvement was short lived. Then the NHS lymph. clinic appointments kicked off where I was measured and monitored, received all manner of compression garments and accessories to try out, a week’s worth of daily-renewed heavy strapping (which was horribly difficult to function with but made a big step change in lessening the swelling, which was only moderate anyway) and was told about pneumatic arm sleeve machines that are programmed to mimic manual lymph drainage. I decided to invest £1,000 in one because IT does the work while you sit and watch the telly. I let it work my arm for 35 mins per evening (2 sessions a day is okay, no more). It is definitely keeping the hand swelling to a minimum (in tandem with a compression gauntlet with fingers … when I remember!). I bought the Huntleigh ‘Hydroven 12’ model. But obviously, consult your therapist before deciding if it, or which, might suit you.

I stuck with Anastrozole (aromatase inhibitor - I’m post menopausal) for 10 months, expecting the side effects to lessen as time went on (AS I WAS TOLD), as my body became accustomed to the drug. Initially I got the joint stiffness/pain, the sleep disturbance, the fatigue and irritability. From 6 months on, these got worse and worse, my hair thinned significantly, and by 10 months I could barely use my dominant right hand, certainly not without strong pain.

I don’t like taking meds anyway, so I didn’t want to go down the road of taking medication after medication, each to counteract the side effects of the previous. Since all AIs and Tamoxifen basically either suppress all production of oestrogen in the body or render it inactive, the effects are likely to be similar (although apparently some people fare on one type better than another). I was also quite appalled at the other serious conditions that can be caused by these drugs, ones that are barely mentioned, if at all, in the booklets, never mind discussed properly. So I am now not having any adjuvant treatment, as I decided that the little benefit offered by bisphosphonates alone also wasn’t worth their potential damage. 8 weeks ‘clean’ and I’m getting back to the 63-year-old ‘me’, instead of the 90-year-old miserable geriatric I had become !
At first, I thought I would do whatever it took to try to reduce my risk of recurrence, but the cost to my quality of life was too great for the potential, statistical benefit.

This is just MY position; an alternative view. Do NOT let me influence anyone else’s decision. All I would say is, if you are not getting the full story from your consultants, educate yourself. Good luck.

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