No mention was made of lumpectomies. They seemed to concentrate purely on mastectomies and how devastating they can be. Many women now have the choice of a lumpectomy and I felt this could have been pointed out but I guess it doesn’t have the emotive power of a mastectomy!
Dawn Porter said BC was the biggest killer of women in the UK. I had thought that was heart disease. And lung cancer is the biggest cancer killer of women. Wish they’d get their facts right!
I also thought it was poor when she was being shown how to self examine - they made no mention of also checking your armpit for lumps, dimpled or thickened skin or inverted nipples…
So glad you all commented before I opened my big gob! I too was hopeful that this would be helpful but was very disappoionted. I really felt for the genuine BC women but couldn’t help thinking (and please forgive me for saying this as it could just be my cynical mind) that Dawn was, at times, ‘playing’ at being the terrified cancer patient. OMG sorry, that sounds awful as I do like her and empathised with her losing her mum (like many, I lost mine too).
thats exactly what i said diepcat,she was irritating me and im not easily irritated! I also thought that she was a little bit condesending at times…i was so disappointed i mite right to sky and see if they want to document me with my bald head bloated tummy,brown and white skin,white tongue and black eyes! lol,there was another programe on channel four on monday about teenagers fighting cancer that i missed due to being at holistic therapy my aunty said it was far better and very moving,im going to watch it later on the internet. take care all x
My view of the programmes was that they didn’t give a realistic view of reconstruction. The lovely young girl who had elected to have a bilateral mastectomy showed off two beautiful breasts, she was able to keep her own nipples. The other lady whose operation they filmed was sitting up looking lovely and just showing part of her newly reconstructed breast and Dawn Porter was all “Oh my gosh! Isn’t it wonderful - you are back to normal now”.
The only realistic part was when they were in the mastectomy bra shop and there was a brief glimpse of the lady who had had a bilateral mastectomy and reconstruction - at least she didn’t look like someone who had had a boob job!
I felt that the programme wasn’t particularly realistic, the ladies that had reconstruction looked and said they felt fab but that’s not what comes across on here always. Also, they gave DP a mammogram, I was told if you are young and/or have dense breast tissue, lumps won’t show. That happened in my case and they had to use ultrasound to pinpoint it for biopsy. I think it showed extremes, the very young girl who had a twin sister, she had spread to spine as drs didn’t act quick enough because of her age. And the lady who had prophylactic mast - her boobs looked fantastic and she’d been able to keep her nipples. Maud I agree with you, that glimpse of the lady who’d had the mast when she was in the bra shop spoke volumes… I do agree that any programme highlighting bc and it’s effects, and the need for more research is admirable, and the ladies who’d made up memory boxes for their children just broke my heart, but the stats were wrong as seemed to be other snippets of medical info featured.
I am affraid I have to agree with Diepcat. And I too feel bad for saying this, but I did think she came across as playing to the camera and sensationalising everything.
The poor young lady of 28 who kept her nipples ended up with a fantastic boob job. I, as yet, have not had a recon, but my BC nurse showed me photos of middling outcomes, ie not the best or the worst, and believe me, they looked pretty awful.
I also don’t think enough was said about the mutilation caused when the muscle is removed from the back and brought forward into the empty boob skin. My friend has had this proceedure, and she was virtually diasabled for several weeks. I have also noticed that now the hot weather is here and she is wearing strappy tops, her right shoulder area is quite deformed (ie, missing some muscle) and her shoulder is boney, ie, no flesh covering.
So, putting all of these points together, I do think that the programme made light of the subject, and def only concentrated on the brilliant results of a few.
But to sum up, I am also very glad that DP does not have to face this diesease, and her gamble to make this programme and get tested paid off. I did wonder who paid for all the tests though?! I had lymph node involvement, and my med team simply refused to let me have any sort of scan. And yes, I am a bit bitter about this when I see others getting it. I just hope either DP or the production company paid for these tests.
Hi didn’t see the programme but have gone through genetic testing and due to Dawn’s Mum dying of breast cancer at such a young age Dawn would have been eligible for any NHS genetic testing/counselling/screening.
I really hope Dawn also made it known that you are not necessarily all ok if you don’t carry the BRCA gene mutations. There are many as yet undiscovered genes that lead to a family having a related history of cancer. My Mum died of ovarian cancer last year, she was 70, I was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer in my early 40’s and Mum’s father died of prostate cancer…all related cancers…but I don’t have either BRCA 1 or 2 mutation. Most patients with a family history also won’t have the BRCA gene mutations. Thanks to my fantastic (NHS) genetic clinic my bloods were tested 100% (some clinics will only check 60%) My sister now has early yearly mammograms and has had an oopherectomy (all on the NHS) and my daughter will be offered early MRI’s of her breasts before going onto yearly mammograms when she reaches 35…plus she will be offered ovarian screening with the option of surgery in her late 30’s early 40’s.
I thought the programme was good in parts (it looked at things from a young woman’s viewpoint, did at least mention breast cancer in men, and acknowledged alternative treatments exist) but really in 2 hours more could have been done.
Totally agree with the comments on recon - I am on my 2nd version which is ok but I will feel deformed every day of my life. The programme didn’t make it clear that chemo is usually at least 6 cycles of 3 weeks, or show much about radiotherapy.
Overall, though, I would have welcomed watching this around the time of diagnosis to be introduced to some of the jargon if nothing else.
I absolutly and totally agree that you and your family should have all of these tests and glad that they do. I also agree that the genetic testing research has a long way to go and DP should not be too complacent. BUT, this was another point not realy examined on air, though maybe it was edited.
The fact that she was making a TV prog def put a dif slant on her story. I wish her no ill will. I think she should have been able to have the blood test and mamo, but don’t think an expensive mri was appropriate when some others with proven BC, don’t get it unless they pay privately and not everyone can afford that.
Good luck to all who are considering a re-con, but please get well informed before you embark, not all of the end results look like the ladies on this prog.
i watched both episodes after reading it was an emotional and personal journey that Dawn Porter was on. IT WAS HER JOURNEY,NOT YOURS, NOT MINE, HERS !!! Was the programme rubbish ? to all the women who participated in it, it certainly wasn’t rubbish…no where near it. To each and every one of us our journey if thats what we want to call it has been so different but still the negativity prevails, because it doesnt suit certain people, why should it ? this pogramme was about Dawn Porters experience. Lets face it we could all do a separate programme about our own experiences couldnt we, so do we all start knocking that ??? Dawn Porter hasn’t had breast cancer fortunately but she lost her mother to this disease at the age of 6. As a mother of a 5 yr old diagnosed when he was aged one 1 i found the whole programme highly emotional. Did she play up to the camera… erm well it was her project and surely as we all know going through the terror of scans etc i could understand her fear, and obviously losing her mother so young well who knows what impact that could have had. Did she mention lumpectomies ? For me who has had a lumpectomy i didnt feel offended that she never mentioned this, why would i, it was her personal journey through this.
Perhaps its just me
Just shows how we are all so different and have our own opinions I felt priveliged to be going through her personal journey and hey if Sky paid her scans lucky her ! yes we are all not so lucky but she was embarking on an emotional trip and it was not some actress they employed that knew nothing of breast cancer… She lost her mother . I think she knows the serious impact of breast cancer.
I do agree though that this could have been covered in
one episode but to say she has sensationalised breast cancer …words fail me, she lost her mother. Delighted that she got good results but yeah doesnt mean she has won the lottery she still needs to be vigilant !!!
which i am sure she will be.
Hi again…Dawn would have been offered an MRI rather than a mammogram as mammograms are not as good at detecting cancer in younger women’s breasts as they are much denser…younger being under 35.
Again with her family history she could well have been eligible for an MRI on the NHS.
I discussed this very thing with my genetic councellor a few days ago…if there’s an issue of costs in my daughter’s case (costs were mentioned) I will pay for her to have them privately for both her’s and mine’s peace of mind.
Annoyed I missed this programme/programmes. I did visit Dawn’s website…so very sad she lost her Mum at such a young age. x
Just wanted to add that like Dawn and many women here, I also lost my mother to cancer and so fully empathise with her ‘personal journey’. I don’t necessarily think people are knocking Dawn personally, we all I’m sure sympathised with her losing her mum and the fear of awaiting results (which thankfully for her all turned out OK). Some moments were, however, less comfortable for those of us who are living through this thing. For instance, whilst I am thrilled that DP hasn’t got cancer and is now on yearly screenings, I found myself uneasy when she described the mastectomy as being ‘not as gory as I expected’ and this oould have come across as quite an ‘easy’ operation, especially when she was saying to the patient, “so that’s it, it’s all gone” … well, let’s hope so! Sure this was an emotional programme, especially that poor woman who has little time left and had the dignity to hug Dawn and say she felt sorry for HER! Personally I was not amused when DP interviewed that lady who had had double mastectomy and asked her, “so, what will you do about future relationships, how will you deal with that?” and then giggled with the lady when she said, “well, I’m not going to flop it out and say, I’ve got a surprise for you”. This lady was amazingly strong and god bless her courage, but I didn’t find it something to giggle about and I’m sure that all the ladies who’s recon’s have not turned out as well (and who are terrfied about future relationships or the rejection they’ve suffered with new partners) would not have found it so funny either! Also, I agree with Irene’s comment about the girl who had double preventative mast and displayed 2 beautiful breasts etc. Dawn said, “this makes me think that this could be a possibiliy for me”. That’s fine but I wonder how she’d have responded if she saw the results of so many on here who haven’t had such perfect results!
Yes, this was Dawn’s personal journey and no-one else’s. I just felt at times it was portrayed as if she was in the ‘same place’ (she is not!) as all the women on the documentary and, happily, she wasn’t. Thankfully, Dawn was given good news each time and didn’t have to suffer the horror of bad results, fna’s, core biopies, mastectomy, chemo … etc.
I think Dawn was brave to do this programme, just think parts of it could have been better and more thoughtfully portrayed (especially for all the women suffering this horrible disease for real), that’s all.