Has anyone other than me read this book? It is the most helpful book I’ve read so far (and I’ve read a few!). I have just - today - replaced all my dairy foods by non-dairy. A friend suggested rice milk instead of soya as it tastes nicer. I had overhauled my diet to help keep my immune system firing on all cylinders but finally feel I am doing something positive to, hopefully, ensure my cancer doesn’t come back. I am er+ and her2+ but cannot have Herceptin as I have not been offered chemotherapy so fingers crossed that this will help. I would thoroughly recommend anyone with cancer to read this book.
There have been many threads on this site about Jane Plant’s book and her ideas. Yes I have read it, yes its interesting, but I think her arguments are flawed. In my view there is no substantiated scientific( by which I mean science as conducted through properly designed trials) to suggest that eating dairy either ‘causes’ breast cancer or that abstaining from dairy will prevent breast cancer returning. A well balanced diet is good health advice for anyone.
I understand that some people feel they are doing soemthign positive if they follow a strict diet. Sadly though I know of rather too many people who have tried to keep to odd diets, seemed to me to suffer enormous guilt if they strayed, and then some have died despite the conviction in the diet. (no the diet didn’t kill them…the cancer did.)
Won’t go on any more on this thread…regulars will have heard it all before…do a search valanne to find a range of opinions. If the diet suits you…fine…but don’t go miserable for missing Haagen Daas ice cream or brie…or whatever used to be your fave bit of dairy.
Soya by the way is not uncontroversial. (I do dairy and soya…in fact there’s not much good food I don’t eat cause food is one of my life’s pleasures.)
Jane
Valanne
The wiser JaneRA got in there before me. There is no hard evidence … Ditto the various raw diets that were grabbed by desperate patients down at the Bristol Cancer Centre very many years ago.
Take Jane Plant’s theory with a pinch of salt, but not too much because it’s bad for the arteries.
A balanced diet, moderation in all things - and not being too flippant - except maybe 85% cocoa solids chocolate!
D
I really don’t want dietary advice from a geologist - yes, that’s the field in which Jane Plant is a Professor.
As I have bone mets, I believe my calcium needs to be high (bone breakdown releases calcium into the blood but it is mopped up by the bisphosphonates), so if I dropped dairy products, I would have difficulty making up the calcium deficit. Many with bone mets are on Adcal tablets but I try to avoid supplements as much as possible and get my nutrients from food.
I’m also not sure about soya and other foods containing phytoestrogens if you have an ER+ tumour. Some say you should avoid these. Others say that having weak phytoestrogens attaching to the receptors instead of your own oestrogen is beneficial. Until there is proper research who knows? Meanwhile, I don’t go out of my way to stock up on soya products but I won’t get over-concerned if I find that there is a bit of soya in a dish I’m eating.
In Germany there is high regard for the Flaxseed and Quark diet for cancer patients. If it is good to eat Quark, that is a dairy product and everyone can’t be right.
I just try to eat healthily most days, but if I’m depressed and eat some really bad stuff to cheer myself up, I don’t get guilty - just try not to do it too often!
Hi, Valanne. I’m glad you’ve found Jane Plant’s book.
As the other contributors to this thread know, I also follow her recommendations and it works for me.
As a scientist myself, I have extensively investigated her sources, understand the route by which nutritional factors have to be tested and have found the references to peer-reviewed papers in all the relevant disciplines from molecular biochemistry to epidemiology entirely convincing.
This is no crackpot diet but a well thought out combination of dietary and lifestyle factors which can be adhered to to substantially improve the outcome of conventional treatment and improve wellbeing and quality of life.
Hi, Holeybones, how are you doing? Odd as it at first seems, dairy sources of calcium do indeed increase the acid load on your body and increase excretion of calcium in the urine.Less acidity in the body means less calcium released from the bones and less need for bisphosphonates to mop it up. Cancer thrives in an acid environment. If you have the patience, read the references that Jane Plant refers to in order to evaluate the research results for yourself.
I also encourage you to read the book “The China Study” by T.Colin Campbell and Thomas Campbell, published in 2006. He explains and details the relevance of animal proteins, particularly casein - the protein found in milk, and all fats to the promotion and progression of cancer and the potential to slow and reverse it.
There is no doubting the relevance of Colin Campbell’s very conventional credentials - check it out.
The China Study and Your Life in Your Hands are two books which are based on rigorous scientific method and all sources are fully referenced in the notes provided.
Valanne, you will find these 2 websites of interest too as you explore ways of applying the principles - www.pcrm.org (the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medecine) and www.cancerproject.org which supplies extensive guidance on changing to a vegan diet, with recipes etc. Also www.nutritionmd.org is a good soruce of medically sound nutritional advice and balanced recipes.
Wishing you well,
Jenny
I did myself go down the Jane Plant route. when first diagnosed with secondaries two years ago, but soon gave it up as I learned more about cancer. I think it does allow one to feel empowered and pro-active in fighting this disease, especially when newly diagnosed, but I don’t think there is any real research to back up her theories. As JaneRA says, it is an old and emotive source of discussion on these boards so one of best ways to find out more would be to search the BCC archives.
I do know of women who followed various alkaline diets and still experienced cancer progression. By the way, my onc advised me to stay away from soya, and that is one piece of advice I have taken on board. I have heard since that processed soya may be bad but natural soya beans possibly beneficial. Any which way, I am still going to steer clear.
So when all is said and done, a varied diet is probably the best for any of us. I have been vegetarian for 25 years but treats are important too, so off to add chocolate to the equation.
Jenny
Hi Jennywren
Were you in the wrens? Iwas in from 1959-1962.
Anyway, to get back to Jane Plant. I have no intention of following her diet to the letter, it is too extreme and would be a constant reminder that I have had cancer which is the last thing I want. I do feel that her theory about dairy food is full of common-sense. Trouble is, as some of you have pointed out, there is conflicting advice about soya. I’ll just have to look into it some more and maybe see if I can find other alternatives. I eat plenty of nuts, seeds and green vegetable - all a good source of calcium so have no worries there.
Sorry - not a wren, just quite small and has long been a nickname. How about other Jennyw?
Jennywren.
Hi. Also never a wren, but have also been nicknamed Jenny Wren intermittently by my friends. My surname starts with a W - I have no imagination!
Some people have an allergy to soya and can’t eat it anyway, so they use rice milk or almond milk or other nut milks. If you get a middle of the range juicer you can make your own. I also make my own soya milk - works out about 5-10p per litre so worth the fiddle tho I don’t have a soya milk machine.
Nearly all the goodies in soya are also present in baked beans! or chickpeas or lentils anyway, just less protein and therefore better tasting and shorter cooking.
It’s the combination of no animal protein, low fats and alkali loading foods which seem to work. I admit that all the preparation time and the first months of working it all out reminded me why I was doing it - eating to beat cancer, but now I’m more used to it and would rather be reminded of my bid for health from what I eat or do in the kitchen than that I have cancer by low energy, aches and pains and new symptoms, of which I have had none since starting the plant programme. It got me over my joint stiffness and bone pain from the Arimidex within 5-6 weeks and I’ve never had so much energy since I was a teenager (I’m 57). So I’m happily a low-fat vegan and intend to stay that way. No half measures any more.
A treat of chocolate (organic, milk-free) is delicious and the odd expresso coffee but for the rest I honestly don’t miss anything and enjoy the new foods and juices and combining the goodies in the best way. BUT - I live alone so can please myself. I do understand it is very, very much more problematic to make radical changes to diet when you’ve got a partner or bigger family, and an extreme challenge to put yourself and your survival first and stick to it. Fortunately when I had my mastectomy and followed the Bristol Programme for a few years, my step daughter who was only 10 at the time, would watch me like a hawk and not let me put anything in my mouth that wasn’t on the programme without protesting. That really helped.
Wishing you well,
Jenny
Hi Valanne
I think its Bernie Siegel’s book that says something like ‘If having a ten mile run each morning before breakfast and then returning to bowl of mung beans makes you feel good then go for it’ However don’t expect it to cure you and should your illness return it may be that you will wish that you had had a lie in all those mornings and chocolate ice cream for breakfast! (this is my para phrase of his sentiments). I follow Jane Plants diet after my own fashion, I think the dairy industry is extremely powerful and probably corrupt and I prefer to avoid diary as much as possible. I still use butter (sparingly) on bread occasionally and I do drink alcohol. I have a very busy social life and if someone serves me cheese or cream or milk in a dish I would eat it rather than cause embarrassment to my host. But where I can I do follow the diet and feel better for it…but Bernie’s words are always at the back of my mind…
lol
Annemarie
hi jennyw
just wanted to say that the websites for the cancerproject and nutritionmd are great! thanks.
jo
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Hi everyone
Thank you all for taking time to post your comments. I have finally managed to find a milk that isn’t too disgusting so have no dairy in the house. I will definitely have the occasional treat - I do so agree with Annemarie there. One thing I noticed this morning is that perfume really lasts on my skin now whereas it used to just disappear after a few hours. Could it be that my skin is now less acidic and that is why it lasts so well. My treat when I discovered the lump in March was a bottle of Miss Dior perfume, very expensive, so wasn’t best pleased when it didn’t last.
Haven’t yet looked into jennyw’s websites but will definitely do so.
Jenny where does it say soya is bad for you? gosh i have been drinking soya milk and eating soya yoghurts.
Have folk found they lost weight on a dairy free diet? I am desperate to lose a few stone.
Rx
Liverbird,
Soya is a rich source of phytoestrogens, and some oncologists do not recommend rich sources of phytoestrogens if your tumour is ER+ If you are ER- then eat soy products to your heart’s content!
Other rich sources of phytoestrogens can be found in many food supplements that claim to reduce hot flushes such as clary sage.
You can’t totally eleminate phytoestrogens from your diet, unless you give up all fruit and vegetables, which would cause other dietary problems. it is just the rich sources over which there is controversy.
If your idea of playing safe to to give up both dairy and soya milk, then maybe try rice milk?
Diet advice is full of conflicts unfortunately, so in the end, we have to make up our own minds what makes us feel better, keeps us in general good health, seems sensible and doesn’t leave us miserable.
Not convinced that dairy products make our bodies more acid. Our bodies are good at buffering excess acid or alkali, so it won’t be out of balance for long just from eating normal food .
Anyway, calcium carbonate is alkaline.
If adjusting our diet can really make so much difference, it would be worth the NHS setting up some proper scientific experiments. Anything set up by food producers will not convince anyone that it is anything other than self interest or a marketing ploy.
Holey.
Hi, Holey.
Yes our bodies are expert at buffering acid, by releasing calcium from our bones which is later excreted in our urine. Where else does the body store sufficient calcium to balance the acid load of acid generating foods? It’s as much a mystery to me why milk produces an acid load on our kidneys and lemon juice an alkali one - I have to keep going back to the refs. to remind me - good ol’ chemobrain there, or maybe anno domini? But that’s the reproducible scientific facts.
And, yes, Liverbird, a dairy free, wholefood diet with complex carbs. does lead to significant and immediate weight loss!
Holey, I’d love you to read The China Study (T Colin Campbell) and tell me what you think as you obviously think deeply about this. Not many people have read it yet as it only came out lsat year but is a best seller in the US.
He’s more interested in the book in presenting the problems with animal proteins, particularly casein from milk, and fats (all additional fats, BTW, not just animal fats.) This Study was part of the inspiration that guided Jane Plant in her research review which led to her books, based as it is on the work which came out of the research of 650,000 people into the causes of death from 12 different cancers amongst 880 million people (96% of the then population of China).
It is a unique piece of research in human history and we are lucky it was done in our era (1970’s) with follow up research which continues to this day. It reveals huge local differences based on diets and lifestyles which have been explored subsequently. In the China Study the data of the Cancer Atlas Survey was analysed and standardised to include the Chinese population of equivalent ages and degrees of physical activity (i.e. sedentary lifestyles where appropriate) to match the sample demographics of the USA which were being compared.
If Chinese premier Chou EnLai hadn’t himself suffered from cancer, the work may never have been done! And we are fortunate that Cornell (T Colin Campbell) and Oxford (Sir Richard Peto), and one of the Chinese authors of the Atlas and the top health research Dr. Junshi got funding to go further…
It is staggering what they did. across a sample of 6,500 people, across 65 Chinese counties, gathering data on 367 different variables with blood and urine tests and dietary diaries, food analysis and weight consumed for each family over a 3 day period… then cross referencing it all and getting 8000 statistically significant associations between lifestyle, diet and disease variables - this research done with public funding. There are insights not on just cancer, but also heart disease, diabetes, obesity and osteoporosis.
Since reading his book and understanding the principles it reveals, I have attended more to my fat consumption. I’ve cut it down to just 10% of my calorific intake.(Same recommendation in Jane Plant’s books which I had completely overlooked in my rush to veganism). That means that instead of getting thru a litre of olive oil a month, as I don’t use any other additional fat, I shall now on average be using 150ml a month, or just 1/8 of what I used before.
It was depressing for a couple of days - didn’t know what to do, but I’ve sussed it now. There are a couple of good low-fat or no-fat vegan lists on the web which do great recipes as well as nutritionmd and the cancerproject sites. I’m curious to see my next blood tests. Cancer increases cholesterol and so do aromatase inhibitors. I was shocked to find my cholesterol levels had been rising on a vegan diet. I shall be gob-smacked if they still are on an 8-fold reduction in my fat intake.
This will also get rid of the last excess pounds - the olive oil I was using in cooking and as a basis for spreads contributed around 320 calories a day (1 tablespoonful is 120 calories). Now on days I eat tahini or hummous, no olive oil. On days I don’t, I have an allowance of 1 teaspoonful. I felt deprived in anticipation of the change. Now I know how to do it, I’m fine and the food’s delicious, including sauces and stir-fries. The nuts and seeds and pulses and soya products, and even spinach all contain oils, and the occassional avocado contains a lot, so that makes up the 10%.
Sorry for the long post… Not a woman of few words!
Wishing you well,
Jenny
I’m wondering if The China Study gives any explanation of the high levels of colon and stomach cancer in China?
Returnng to Jane Plant…I am sure that yes she refers to some respectable peer reviewed papers in her book. I am not a scientist but I do have a bit of an idea about scientific method and prinicples and there are some things in Plant’s book which I find dubious… She doesn’t just claim that a diary free diet makes you feel better. She actually claims that it has cured her cancer. She had a regional reurrence, had chemotherpay, went on a dairy free diet. Cancer disappeared; therefore she claims the dairy free diet cured the cancer. I don’t call that very scientific. I am also concerned by her claim on page 122 of the 2003 edition that she has given her diet to 63 women, all of whom remian cancer free. She says ‘The five women who refused to use it (the diet) or ‘cheated’ have all sadly had recurrences or died.’ I think such claims, based on anecdotal evdence are not scientifc. They are also in my view irresponsible in their implications.
I also question whether Plant is telling the truth that that her doctors gave her three months to live and 6 months if she was lucky. As it happens I have a regional recurrence rather like Plant’s (though mine was not operable and mine is triple negative). My cancer is deemed incurabe but a 6 month maximum prognosis would not have been a realistic forecast at the time of my re diagnosis. In fact much of the ‘non sceintific’ bits of the book are very odd indeed.
Jane
Hi all
very interesting…can I ask a question?
No one has mentioned fish in all this…we eat alot of fish, no reason but as a family we like it. Salmon, tuna, mackerel, prawns, tiger prawns…etc is fish o.k? My doctor recently went on about the menopause cake and food high in natural oestrogen, she suggested that eating these sorts of foods would probably help with the hot flushes and pains etc. I am ER+, I think that i should check that with my onc, as Holey mentioned that some oncs don’t reccommend foods like that. It’s a minefield!!! I think as a family we eat healthily, lots of greens and fresh fruit and veg, lots of ‘red’ things, tomatoes, plums etc. My daughter has a slight problem with her iron reserves and has been advised to have steak now and again to give her a boost. Animal fat and a mum with bc…it’s all so conflicting.
Aghhhh!!
All the best
Scarlet. xxx
Hi All,
As a family, we try to eat healthily. We eat meat, fish, dairy products, fruit and veg - in fact just about the whole range of foods. I enjoy a glass of wine and live for chocolate. If I fancy a bag of crisps occassionally, I have them. Although I would not deliberately consume anything that would harm me, I will continue to eat what I want, and enjoy life rather than restricting what is one of the great pleasures in life. I have to say that despite my varied and sometimes unhealthy diet, I weigh less than 9 stone, I am very fit and have never had a thing wrong with me in my life until BC struck.
I can fully understand the desire to do everything possible to help oneself, but there are so many possible contributing factors - including faulty genes - that to focus on one particular, unproven theory and to further deprive oneself seems a shame.
Having said all that, if it makes you feel better - go for it!
Hi, Jossie.
A number of studies show that only 3% of the population carry the faulty genes which can predispose one to breast cancer and only a smallish fraction of these 3% go on to develop the disease. So there’s fortunately, as it’s understood at the moment, only a small element of genetic predisposition, though in the unfortunate it can be one of the factors. As we all carry some embryonic cancer cells in our blood, it is what promotes each of the 3 phases of tumour development: the initiation phase and promotion phase (which can apparently be interrupted) and the proliferation phase, which is more problematic, which can inform us on how to prevent and recover from cancer.
There are obviously other factors which can predispose one person to develop cancer more readily than another and these are probably a whole complex of factors, which WILL include dietary history and practice and and a whole bunch of environmental and lifestyle factors.
Scarlet, without the recipe for your menopause cake I wouldn’t hazard a guess but as Holeybones points out it’s the extreme sources of phyto-oestrogens which put the wind up some people - especially any extracts or concentrates. Phyto-oestrogens in normal foods, eaten in normal quantities in a mixed diet of plant rich foods are going to help menopausal and breast health. Maybe to get the best out of her low iron reserves, your daughter has also been advised to make sure she has enough foods containing folic acid with that beef? the meet contains B12 and together with folic acid, this improves the assimilation of iron. But if she is not actually anaemic, i.e. her red blood count is adequate, then worrying about iron is probably not necessary. Though of course we all lose iron during menstruation which needs to be replaced and there is no evidence to suggest that vegan / vegetarian women suffer more from anaemia than meat eaters and they suffer less from PMT, osteoporosis and problems at menopause. There are plenty of plant foods which are also rich sources of iron but she would have to make sure she eats adequate amounts.
Fish, sadly, is animal based food and therefore not advisable if you are following the principles of wholefood, plant based diet as described in the China Study. But certainly as DHA is an essential fatty acid and it’s available from fish oils, (some of which are heavily contaminated with mercury so beware and I understand that the NHS advice is for pregnant women and nursing mothers and for small children to not eat oily fish which can contain excessive mercury which accumulates with other heavy metals to damaging degrees for the development of the human brain) I take extra pure cod liver oil every day. This also boosts my vitamin D but I also get plenty of sunshine, though 20 mins a day outside on a bright day is supposed to be sufficient to stock up.
And yes, Jane, there is an analysis of 12 different cancers amongst the 46 studied, including particularly colon and rectal cancer and a reference too to stomach cancer. As there are extreme differences between the incidence of all the different cancers across the whole population, it was possible to study this and draw some conclusions. In some places there are close to no colon/rectal cancers, and probably the same about stomach cancers. There’s a whole section of the book on this. Can’t transcribe it all here… get a copy from the library and find out the details. As to what you say about the non-scientific bits in Jane Plant’s books, I suggest you contact her and challenge her on what disturbs you. That’s what I did. Just put Jane Plant in your search engine and you’ll find her pages and email contacts. The oncologist that she quotes in her book is still practicing and is on the staff as a professor of oncology at Imperial and in regular contact with her. So I accept her assertions about her diagnosis and prognosis and she did have 3 recurrences in very swift succession despite surgery and radiotherapy.
I also protested to her about her statement on page 122. Perhaps if enough women were to protest and request she alter the wording she could be prevailed upon to do so. Her statement that 5 people she knew have had recurrences or died is no doubt fact. The juxtaposition of this statement with the sentence which preceded it implies a conclusion that confronts us. They died of breast cancer.
Whilst there it is not possible to prove that they would still be alive if they had followed Jane’s advice, it is I’m sure true that no-one has died because they did follow it.
We all probably have known or know of someone who has died as a direct result of chemo and/or drug side effects . These are described in the leaflets which come with the drugs! and are the reasons for the hospital consent forms.
And BTW dairy-free life is only one of the factors her programme depends on.
I do believe that once cancer has reached a certain stage it is unlikely anything will reverse or stop it, especially in a person whose general health hasn’t been good due to other diseases or in any event whose immune system and general constitution has been utterly worn down by toxic treatments and lifestyle. And that’s true of the last stage of any degenerative disease. That stage and the speed at which we reach it will depend on individual factors.
I also believe that for a very long way along the path to that stage, radical changes in diet and lifestyle can have a huge beneficial effect on quality of life and wellbeing and on the health of our organs and the systems which make them work as a team to support life.
The fact that more and more and younger and younger women are getting aggressive breast cancer in developed countries points to something having changed in the last few decades and in faster than ever in the last 10 years. All the evidence points to lifestyle changes which have affected the diet we eat. It’s worth examining the dietary exposure to factors which cause disease, starting in the maternal diet during pregnancy which lays the foundations of endocrine development for a lifetime and going right up to maturity and old age. There are huge differences not only in diet but dietary contaminants.
If we don’t take a radical look at causes and demand preventive strategies (this does NOT mean bilateral mastectomies of all girl children, though some mothers are already making this decision, nor Tamoxifen in the tap water!) the rates of breast cancer, and of other cancers and degenerative diseases like type 2 diabetes and obesity will go on rising so that healthy 40 year olds now will outlive their children and grandchildren. So I don’t feel these considerations are just personal, which is why I bother to share what I feel is valuable information as I encounter it in the literature, how ever controversial some people think it is. It is consistent across decades of scientific research, across continents and depends on independent and not commercial interests for its funding.
Someone who advocates a whole food plant based diet has nothing to gain except the priviledge of contributing to the greater good of humanity. That’s probably why there aren’t rich, powerful, international lobbyists bashing on about it or hugely glossy advertising campaigns promoting it. Once you have the data is is common sense.
I value my life more that beefsteak, more than organic natural greek yogurt, brie or cheddar, more than a salmon steak, more than Danish pastries, more than a good bottle of red wine, though I’ve enjoyed them all. At the time I ate them I truly believed they were part of a varied and healthy diet which would contribute to my health and wellbeing and pleasure in life.
Under an extreme health challenge where one of the few weapons at my disposal to fight for my life is diet, and with new understanding of research undertaken on our behalf with public money over the last 60 years, I have changed my mind.
The food I choose to eat is still chosen on the same principles - health, wellbeing and pleasure . It’s just different food, that’s all. Not SUCH a big deal but it has been life altering and enhancing so far.
Wishing you well,
Jenny
Jenny, I’m 100% with you on all that you say - I just started a thread about the same thing but have been pointed out to this one, so here I am.
How anyone can accuse JP of being unscientific is plain daft - she’s a scientist, and as she says in her book, this was the most important piece of research she ever did because her life depended on it. And the book is stuffed full of peer-reviewed papers, not merely anecdotal evidence.
The most compelling part for me was that all animal milk, which let’s face it, is produced for growing babies, whether the animal is a human baby or a calf, is chock full of growth hormones, and Insulin-Like Growth Factor (IGF) in particular. It stands to logic and reason that growth hormones are there to promote growth, and given that cancer is essentially a bunch of cells growing at an inappropriate rate (caused by instructions from damaged cell DNA), does it not then also logically follow that sticking growth hormones into adults can cause the cell proliferation typical of oncogenes?
I’m all for everyone doing what they feel is best for them, but I’m with you on this one Jenny, I value my life more than a steak or a milkshake or milk chocolate or even my much much loved cheese. BF and I have discussed, and we are going to at least switch to soy or rice milk products. I’m all for going the whole hog, but we’re financially knackered at the moment and already eat a totally non-processed diet of fresh organic everything pretty much. The problem is, as JP points out, it only takes a miniscule amount of an unwanted hormone to disrupt the balance.
So, Jenny, have you had positive results with JP’s methods? I’m extremely interested in this, and at a time when I’m feeling utterly desperate because I’ve found another lump in my other breast, and the MRI on my mastectomied left breast somehow failed to show a 4.5cm tumour against the chest wall, I’m keen to try anything THAT I THINK IS SCIENTIFICALLY SENSIBLE in order to beat this thing.
By the way, I am a science student (or was until I got too sick with this to go into my final year next week), and I can tell you that ALL scientific evidence BEGINS with anecdotal evidence. We would not have developed the smallpox vaccine had not Jenner noticed (ie, anecdotal evidence) that milk maids had clear unblemished skin - ALL research to test theories begins with the much maligned anecdotal evidence.
And yes it does read quite brutally that the 5 women who did not stick to it died, but she seems to be stating a fact as she knows it, which backs up what her scientific research had shown, rather than using that statement to make a scientific claim.
And it wasn’t - cancer - recurrence - chemo - diet - as I read it, she had multiple recurrences and it was the last one that gave her a tumour the size of half a boiled egg sticking out above her collar bone, and it was during this time that she started her diet, and the tumour disappeared within 5 weeks. I don’t think she was on chemo at the time, although she had been on chemo previously and it evidently hadn’t stopped that last tumour from growing.
I’m quite shocked at how much negativity there is around this - I was sceptical when I heard about it from BF’s mum, but feel the evidence JP presents is really quite compelling. I don’t think anyone should be angry about new research findings - just beause we all (or most) eat dairy produce and love it, don’t take it as an attack on our choices, just see it as interesting new info that might well benefit us! I have always been totally against vegan diets, believing as I do (I have a very strong interest in nutrition) that our bodies and digestive systems have evolved to utilise animal products like meat, but what she says about growth factors and other hormones in animal milk strikes a truth in me that I don’t think I can ignore. Babies need to grow, animal milk stimulates growth by providing growth hormones, and these would clearly be inappropriately stimulating to adult tissues.
Jenny, let me know some more of your experiences on this,
Love to all of you,
Angel xx