Babies and other people getting pregnant

I know. I just hate the feeling of being out of control. It plays into my natural hatred of myself. I used to be worse but I mostly hate the stuff that comes out of my mouth and over worry about things I’ve said so the drinking exacerbates it. And there’s all the cancer guilt too. Oh I’m a joy lol.

Yay re cards well done. Sounds beautiful there. I have bought my team and other friends at work small presents so need to get them all wrapped tomorrow. Eek. Glad you have another holiday coming up xxx

BTW you were right I spoke to everyone I was worried about and it was fine. I’m a nightmare eh?
Hope everything is OK with you in the run up to Christmas xxxx

Argh I had replied to this but it was when I was out of the house so it mustn’t have gone through! Can’t remember what on earth I said though!!!
Sorry you’ve been poorly! Hope youre better?
It’s Christmas! I’ve just been to the midnight service with my sister. It was lovely. They arrived at 7 and we have literally been cleaning and sortng for what feels like forever. The house is not too bad now but it has made me realise how little we’ve been keeping on top of it. Ah well, hopefully we’ll be better in the new year.
Hope you have an amazing Christmas day.thank you so much for your support and friendship this year. Xxxzddd

I think the insomnia is quite normal. Well I have struggled since treatment and we are not the only ones.
Less hours sounds like a good plan. I think the thing is, you have such a stressful job, maybe if you were doing something less demanding it would be ok, but the combined emotional and physical demands are such a lot.
I realise as I write this that you’ll have been in work for hours!! I’m hoping that it has gone ok. Sending lots of love x

Blimey! Hope you got to relax. We are unexpectedly off to my husband’s brothers. It’s terrible but I would prefer to stay on and watch telly lol. Glad you’re OK xx

Yes it was nice although my sister didn’t really enjoy it lol. She drank a lot of wine and got a bit ratty lol. It is a bit of a habit with her which worries me a bit. I hope you got to rest. I am also intermittently having waves of panic re the new job lol. Ah well no turning back now. Xx

Yay re bloods! Five more is a good countdown. You’ve done brilliantly. Ah maybe he needed a blow out. I think that I worry I behave like my sister when I’ve had too many which impacts onto the guilt eh?
Job starts on 3rd. Arghghfh
Are you going to talk to them about reducing hours? Hope it’s OK anyway xx

Sounds like a rotten day.
Re the sleep it could be lots of things causing it. I think there are loads of variables, but reducing your hours sounds like a plan I think. It’s not worth being so stressed at the moment.
Hmm I hope so re the 3rd we can only try eh? Xx

OK that sounds horrible. But lack of sleep can make you not yourself so first things first, you need to take that into consideration.

Let’s start with him - sounds like he’s been a bit up and down? And also that sometimes he says some quite harsh sounding things to you?

Do you think that this is because you’ve always been so strong and resilient? From things that you’ve said he’s said to you, it’s sounds a bit like he doesn’t want to accept the real implications and impacts of your treatment and wants to carry on like you were before. If that’s how he’s ‘dealing’ with it it’s bound to flare up like this from time to time, because yes, you’ve had a horrible, harsh life changing experience and it therefore affects every aspect of your life.

I think that you have been pushing yourself really hard to carry on as normal, and by doing this, you’re doing really well. However sometimes you (both) need to give yourselves a break.

This is obviously only from what you’ve said, so of course I could be off the mark, so ignore anything that doesn’t ring true. It feels a bit like he doesn’t want to acknowledge that any side affects are out of your control because then he has to accept the cancer is out of your control which means that he has to face the scary fact that the cancer could kill you.

Maybe he does need to talk to someone. It’s so hard when someone you love so much is ill. I would much rather have the cancer than have my husband have it. It just seems like it comes our in bursts of him every now and then eh?

There is also the whole thing whereby now you’re ‘over’ treatment you should just be back to normal Lol!! That’s just not realistic I’m afraid to say, either of him or you!

The side affects unfortunately really do affect both of you and you have to navigate your way through them.

But what you must remember is that they are not your fault and you can’t just magic them away.

Re the tamoxifen, I don’t think you should come off it unless it’s absolutely unbearable. I think you need to do everything you can to protect your health. Therefore the next step is to explore things that can help you deal with it and can lesson the symptoms. I really rate accupunture. But there are so many things you can try before giving up, also you are really early days yet and you still have five more herceptin to go, things will change again when that’s finished, so don’t rush into anything.
I think that changing your hours will also have an impact.

Have a chat today when hopefully you’ve both had some sleep and can consider a plan to be positive in the new year. This sort of blip is totally normal and unfortunately a horrible side affect of the horrible side affects.

I’m sending you a huge hug my lovely. I’m sure you’ll feel better when you talk to him xxxzx

Hi Helena
Thank you. That’s a lovely thing to say. I hope you’re OK? Wish you all the best for 2017 xx

Yes just the journey every day is enough let alone the treatment! Hope you’re doing OK. Sounds like you’re positive xxxx take care xxxx

Well hope you’re getting enough rest. Xx

Hey Cath
I’m so glad you’re feeling a bit better! Sorry I couldn’t reply earlier, went to a friend’s for new years and it would have been a bit rude lol, but happy new year to you!

I hope that you know that anything you say could never be pathetic and that I’ve point of the forum is to provide you with a safe place to express and share the way you’re feeling with people who hopefully understand or at least have been through similar things. Also you really don’t need to thank me as you have been there for me as much as I’ve been there for you - don’t know what I would do without our chats!!

I know I keep saying it, but you’re really early days in recovery and looking back I know I was really up and down. It’s weird you kind of move three steps forward and two steps back, but the steps back always seem to hit some stony ground that you didn’t quite cover on the way forward, so when you’re OK with one aspect of your life another one rears its ugly head.

I know you will feel better when you’ve spoken to him properly about it all. Maybe he’s getting closer to actually facing what has happened, I don’t know how much anyone can do that when it’s going on at the time. I also really hope you get some time to think about what might help you/make you feel better, because it feels like a) you never have time (which I appreciate has both good and bad points) and b) would actually be helping both of you, as the better you feel and are, the better/easier it is for him.

I know that this isn’t really in your nature and you are more the selfless, brave, soldiering on type, but I’m hoping that if you can see it’s not just helping you, you might allow yourself to put yourself first for a bit. I think a bit of breathing space where you can work out how you feel in your own head will then help you be stronger if he is still struggling - once you’ve processed it you can carry it for the both of you if that makes sense? At the moment you’ve just got too many things to deal with at once.

Anyway we have a brand new year to bring us lots of happy times and within which to feel ever better (haha). Sending lots of love xx

Oh blimey Helena, just read your post after Caths.
That doesn’t sound restful at all to me!! Sounds like they are supportive which is great but still an awful lot on your plate. It’s great that you’re managing to work though! I’m very impressed.
You sound very positive which is brilliant, - I know that people say positivity can’t cure anything but I do think it makes such a difference and for me at least, life seem easier to handle if I put a positive spin on things. I’m so sorry to hear that your partner has MS as well, hope you are both OK, hopefully the rads will be over before you know it and you get minimal side effects. Hope 2017 is kind to you! Xxxxxxx

Yes off tomorrow too.
Not remotely ready for the Tuesday. Feel weird
Hope it will be OK. Just going to have to go with it eh?
Glad you spoke to him. You will get there, it’s not easy honey. The walk sounds great, what a fab way to start the new year. Hope you have fun tonight. Xxx

Yeah I had such a good support network there, so I’m going to feel it, but I have decided to pay for a bit of coaching to see if that helps me through the transition. I think I just need to be positive. There is a bit of a problem with my health insurance that had been worrying me, essentially the new company agreed to pay the continuation from my current job but it’s loads more than we thought. They have said not to worry but I think it’s piling on the pressure for me to add value quickly. Arghghfh and I feel stupid for not having sorted it out sooner.
But I think maybe subconsciously I didn’t as I probably wouldn’t have changed if I had factored it in. Anyway hope work is OK tomorrow xxx

Glad you had a good time!!

Hi Marydan and Helena
Just wanted to say congrats too to Marydan, I can’t imagine how hard it is to have to deal with both things, you are inspirational! Hope you’ve both had a good new years day. Ive done nothing except make a roast dinner - very lazy. Take care and here’s to a less horrible year x

Thanks
Hope work was ok today x

OK I think! Had my injection first and the nurse was 15 mins late because she had a student so mad rush.
Not sure yet. Early days but the people are nice x hope you’re OK. Haven’t sorted the insurance issue yet, x