Brain Mets Diagnosed

Hi All

Haven’t used the forums for a little while but feel the need to get things off my chest, so please bear with me.

Breast Cancer is so cruel. I was diagnosed with primary cancer in 2003, secondaries in lungs, mediastinal space and lymph nodes in Nov 2008 and just when everything seemed to be under control I have now been diagnosed with brain mets – to say this is a blow is an understatement. I am so so gutted.

I can’t believe that 4 weeks ago I felt totally well and within a few weeks I have been diagnosed with a large secondary tumour 3.7cm x 3cm sitting near the bottom of my brain. Other than a general fog I had no symptoms until a couple of weeks ago when I started having some trouble with balance and coordination, basically the feeling of being drunk without the alcohol! I also started having trouble with my vision, again as if I had been on the drink.

Had CT scan last week and received dreaded results on Wednesday. Need to have MRI scan on Tuesday as apparently they give better pictures than CT scans and CT scans sometimes miss small nodules. Guess the good news is that there does seem to be a plan for every eventuality:

If the MRI confirms that it is one large tumour then my oncologist will show scan to neurosurgeons to see if there is a surgical option. The thought of having my brain operated on just makes me feel ill.

If there are a few tumours they will look to see if Gamma knife is an option or if there is multiple small deposits it will be straight to Whole Brain Radiotherapy.

Oncologist said my life expectancy has significantly reduced!
I don’t think I have ever been so scared in my life, for me, my husband, my son or my family. Everyone is just so gutted and upset and I just feel so guilty for putting them through this. It just isn’t fair.

Will get the results of MRI scan on Wednesday so should know then if surgery is a possibility or not.

Will keep you posted.
Thanks for reading, good night XXX

Oh Paula, so sorry to read your post. Youré right, life is cruel. You have been through so much and you’re still having to endure more bad news. My heart gows out to you but I’m sure you’ve been strong in the past and will find the strength to work your way through this new crisis. Just take each day as it comes and look after yourself. I’m sure you’re in good medical hands and wil get loads of support from the wonderful ladies here. Take care.
Annys x

Oh Paula, my heart goes out to you. What a shock for you and your family to cope with and like you say after you’ve been feeling so well.This disease is very unpredictable.
I really hope that once a treatment plan is set in motion that things may become a little easier to cope with once you know something is being done to slow things down.
Words seem inadequate but I’m sending positive vibes,love and hope to you and just take things one day at a time and allow yourself time to cope with it all.
Do keep posting and let us know how you’re getting on.

Anne xx

I’ve just read your post and wanted to give you the most enormous hug. I am so saddened by your news and just want to echo what others have said beforehand that the unpredictability of this disease just disarms you time and time again.
You and your family sound so devestated. I hope they can support you through this initial stage until the professionals take over and plan the very best package for you.

You are in my thoughts and I will be looking out for you in future when you post again.
Take care, sleep calmly if you can… Welsh girl x

I’m so sorry to hear your news Paula. I posted the Brain Diary posts a forum member, Kitkat, made a while ago on another thread started by Hannah today. I will post them again here so if you want to you can read Kitkat’s experience of WBR.
Kitkat sadly passed away many months later from other complications due to the disease and not in any way related to her brain mets. She had VERY succesful WBR results.
Wishing you the best results possible.
Lots of Love, Belinda…xx

Brain Diary Hi All
I’ve decided to impose on you all my lovely journey through brain mets as there didn’t seem anyone out there who’s done it recently/firsthand. Don’t want to scare, rather to reassure, so if you don’t want to read, stop now!

As you may know, saw the doc last week who confirmed brain mets. Hospital called Tues ( week later) for me to go in Thurs for mask and simulator for whole brain radiotherapy. Have to say, VERY impressed at speed of NHS here, also slightly scared that they felt it necessary to do it so quickly!

Mask was fine! I was worried I’d feel claustrophobic, but it was a bit like having a a warm string vest put over my face! It was only on for about 5 mins and then cooled down. Then they clip you down on the table, but the radio is only about 6 mins total, so I can do that! Easy! No tattoos as they draw on the mask!

She also showed me the MRI films and the mets were very small white spots. About 6 or 7 dotted around, but lower in the brain than I had thought. Not many in the top bit, and one a bit alarmingly near my optic nerve, but she reckons this radio will stop it inflicting any damage.

The radio will hopefully reduce them but, as usual, won’t get rid of them. Whether they recur is apparently dependent on what happens elsewhere in me, but as liver and bones seems stable for now, fingers crossed.
I start next Tues, 10 sessions over 2 weeks. Hair will go patchy and thin again, but it may not come back this time. Still, rather be here and bald, than hairy and not!

Feel so much better now its all going ahead and I can deal with it! Been working out driving rota and babysitting rota today.
Driving by the way, is off for the ‘forseeable’. basically if I ever want to drive again, the doc would need to fill in a form for the DVLA. Just going to have to get used to it, and use taxis and buses etc.

Was a bit concerned that this would in some way change me, my personality, but just going to have to try it and see. Surgery is not an option cos there are just too many.
Steroids seem to be stopping headaches and clumsiness, still a bit woozy but think thats the steroids themselves! Plus, they give me thrush so mouth back to cardboard and weight dropping off again. Mind you, I’ve got plenty to lose so no worries there!
Anyway, think thats all for now, let you know how its going next week.
Love Kitkat

Brain Diary Part 2 Hi Everyone,
I’m back! 4 whole brain radiotherapy treatments done, 6 to go and not feeling too bad!
It’s a very strange experience when you actually have the radiotherapy. When I’ve had it before on my boob and back, there is no smell, no lights just buzzes. This time there is a definite smell, kind of burning but not really, they call it ionising apparently, but my friend whose been driving me noticed it in the car! It also flashes a kind of blue light at the back of my eyes which has baffled them as its not supposed to! I think it must just be zapping a particular nerve in there somewhere! Its so quick though that I don’t have time to worry. I have to say that by the end of it, I’ll be glad to finish!
I’m feeling more weary today, and had a bit of a funny ear last night which is all down to swelling in my poor head. I do feel a bit like a bit of bacon! Hair still there, but scalp definitely feeling tingly kind of pre hair fall out feeling for those who’ve had chemo.
Anyway, will have a good sleepy weekend. My poor Mum has been away on holiday since all this kicked off and knows nothing about it, because I so wanted her to have a good holiday, so thats all about to hit the fan this evening. I hope she’ll forgive me.
Hope everyones doing ok
speak to you when I can
lots of love Kitkat

2nd part of Kitkat’s brain diaries…

A new bike for Christmas Hi all

wanted to tell you all about my early xmas pressie as I’m so excited and proud of myself!

I got a big shiny purple bike! With lots of comfortable padding and good suspension for my poor ole bones.
Been out with hubby and son and did 2 miles and felt really brilliant and alive! Fantastic, and its exercise and a bit of independence as I can’t drive.

Would definitely recommend it despite my mothers worries about my bone mets!

Loe Kitkat (exhausted but happy)

More Good News from me too! I wanted to share my good news too with everyone as sometimes we forget there is hope!
I’ve recently had CT scans on brain, abdomen, neck, pelvis and there is NO EVIDENCE OF METS !!! For those who don’t know I had liver mets and multiple brain mets (see profile) and am so overjoyed I can’t quite take it in. My onc said he was pleasantly surpised as he had expected there to be some activity!!!
I do still need to have bone scan as he thinks any cancer activity here might be the cause of my recent anaemia but I can deal with bone mets! Its not the bone mets that see you off is it.
Feel like the huge cloud I’ve carried around has been lifted, for a little while anyway.
So don’t give up, hope my news cheers you as much as it has me!
With love
Kitkat

Hi Paula

I am sorry to read of your recent diagnosis. I thought you might find the BCC fact sheet on secondary breast cancer in the brain useful as it has a lot of information. Here’s the link:-

breastcancercare.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/publications/quick-order-list/*/changeTemplate/PublicationDisplay/publicationId/8/

Also if you need extra support please don’t hesitate to give the helpline a call as here you are able to talk with a trained member of staff who can offer you a listening ear as well as support and information. The number to call is 0808 800 6000 and the lines are open 9am to 5pm Monday to Friday and 9am to 2pm Sunday.

I hope this is helpful.

Best wishes
Sam (BCC Facilitator)

Hi Paula
As you say this disease is so cruel and so unpredictable. Unfortunately nothing I can say or do is going to make you feel any better but I just wanted you to know that I am thinking of you and hoping that the outcome of the MRI gives some glimmer of hope and the treatment needed is really successful. I hope you and your family have the strength to cope with this latest news. Good luck for the results on Wednesday, I’ll have everything crossed for you and please keep us posted so we can offer support or just to have a place to ‘unload’.
Nicky xx

So sorry Paula to read your latest news. I think if there are degrees of awfulness about this disease Brain mets must come right up the top. The fact that it is there and doesn’t manifest itself straight away is so sneaky. Wishing you all the best - it sounds like they are looking at all the options so I hope the MRI comes up with a clear indication of the way to go. My thoughts & prayers with you and your family and will be looking out to see how you get on.

Dawn
xx

Hi Paula

Am so so sorry to read your news. I hope that they can sort things out for you and surgery or gamma knife is an option for you.

I hope your MRI is conclusive and that things get started immediately.

My thoughts are also with you and your family. Cannot imagine what you are going through. Secondaries is bad enough, but brain mets, as Dawn says, must be the worst.

Lots of love to you and your family.
Dawn
xxxx

Hi paula, just wanted to add to what the other ladies have already said, words seem inadiquite. I do know how you feel, in january i was told i 99% had mets, we were devistated…but luckily for me they can’t make there mind up now and it looks like i may not have it. Just waiting for results from mri on arm but the pain has gone now…and they cant decide what the area is they found on my brain. Oh well i live i hope. I am lucky! I just wanted you to know i do know how you feel, its devistating for you and all your family. please take care paula and i will have everything crssed for you on wednesday, you too may still be lucky, let us know how you go on.

Take care, luv and hugs pauline xxx

Hi Paula

I am relatively new to the secondaries section (just diagnosed in Oct 2009) but you have had the news everyone must dread. Like everyone else here I would like to offer my support.

What I have found out during this period of time is how committed the NHS staff who look after me are to doing everything possible to help us stick around for as long as possible. I am sure those looking after you will throw every treatment that is available your way and there will be a long line of people on this site wishing you well.

My strong positive thoughts and best wishes will be with you.

Sue x

Oh Paula, I’m so so sorry to hear this news. If there’s anything I can do to help even just a little bit then please let me know. I’m not so very far from you as you know.

Only just come onto the forums after a while away and this is the first thread I took note of. Am thinking of you and will be thinking of you a lot from now on. Hoping that the news on Wed is the best possible in such horrendous circumstances.

Big big hug, sorry that this seems so inadequate.

Love Alison xx

Breast cancer is bad enough, but mets is everyones’ nightmare. I’m not sure what to write in case it causes offense. I sincerely wish you all the very best.

paula

looks like we’re going down the same road together, i was diagnosed with brain mets last tuesday and lung mets.

so so scared. been having dizzy spells and wierd arm tingling for about 3 weeks, then had a huge seizure on sunday -the most frightening experence ever

the mri shows that i have 6 mets in front upper lobe so inoperable so started total brain radiation yesterday - 9 to go, i hated it, very claustrophobic and hate the whole thing - just want to run away, never felt like this before, always just get a grip and get on with things but this is too huge

not dealing well with things at all, can’t see any hope at mo as these mets all happened while on chemo so seem so much stronger than anything we have to throw at them

please let me know how you’re getting on and what your plan is

so sorry we in this together

hxxx

Hi Paula and Hannah - so sorry you have to deal with this , on top of everything else - just to say i am thinking of you and wishing you well with the treatment …jayne x

Paula and Hannah,
words seem inadequate,but I just wanted you to know that I am thinking about you and really hope your treatment is sucessful.
love Nicky

Hi Paula and Hannah,

I am putting for you both below links to some of the support information for people with secondary breast cancer that you both may find useful.

Secs in brain:
breastcancercare.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/publications/quick-order-list/*/changeTemplate/PublicationDisplay/publicationId/8/

Secs in lung:
breastcancercare.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/publications/quick-order-list/*/changeTemplate/PublicationDisplay/publicationId/10/

Living with secondary:
breastcancercare.org.uk/healthcare-professionals/publications/quick-order-list/*/changeTemplate/PublicationDisplay/publicationId/131/

Also you may be interested in joining in with the secondary live chat sessions where I am sure you will get lots of support from other forums members. Secondary live chat runs for an hour each Tuesday evening between 8.30pm and 9.30pm and again on Wednesdays between 11.30am and 12.30 pm. These sessions are run by a trained facilitator and a nurse specialist.

breastcancercare.org.uk/community/live-chat/

I hope this is helpful to you both. Take care,
Kind regards,
Jo, Facilitator

Dear Paula and Hannah, I can only echo the words of Nicky and Jayne…I will be thinking of you both as you go through your treatment and hoping for the best results possible.
Lots of Love to you both…Belinda…xx

Hi Paula and Hannah,
It seems we are all battling the same demons here. I was diagnosed with brain mets around 3 weeks ago now. Finished whole brain radiation last wednesday.
It is very frightening, but i think more so for me its that i am not ready to leave my family and friends.
I finished 8 rounds of chemo on the 9th dec 2010, and this ugly, horrible, cruel disease has spread anyway. In my heart of hearts i will never forgive the coldness of the surgeon who misdiagnosed this cancer as a fibroadenoma, when i went 6 months previously with a lump. Things may have been so different. But now this has happened, and its time to deal with this for now, lets get fighting and be more relentless, never give up.
Kitkats diary, seems very inspiring, lets give this horrible disease a bloody hard battle. We aint going anywhere until we are damn well ready!
Big hug to you all
annaxx

oh anna - it’s all just so so scary isn’t it? I envy normal people being able to just look out of the window and say what a lovely day, what shall I do today - all my innocence has gone

I can’t even cuddle my children without crying

when do you have a scan to see how well brain rads have worked? what chemo were you on last? I’ve been on capecitabine and lapatinib - didn’t work at all

i’m still not in fighting mode yet and finding it so hard to accept this news - it just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever

keep in touch - would love to hear how you’re doing

h
xxx