Ok Flutterby don’t keep me in suspenders???
Whats the spoon theory?? 
I can give you a few takes on it but i’d probably be wrong Ha ha ha…
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Hi Doz the spoon theory is one of the threads Rev Cat has posted with a link which explains the energy problem in a rather novel but understandable way, great way to help explain some ‘got no energy days’ it’s horrible here wet ,cold and windy! So had my reflexology and snuggling down now take care flutterbys and on with the pj’s hugs all round Em xxx
Hi everyone I too wondered about the spoon theory so will have to look it up.I was glad to read your post Doz after your session with b.c nurse.I must admit I felt better last October after talking to mine and all you other ladies may find it will benefit you to maybe ahve a chat to your b.c nurses.I am feeling back to near normal after my op but it has taken 7 long weeks but will be raring to go once the better weather comes.hope you are all doing okay and keeping positive thoughts to keep you going.Doz your nurse is probably right about the sleeping shift work doesn’t help at all especially mixing nights and days if I were you I certainly would be going part-time as I would have done if I had gone back to work.Take acre everyone big HUG Janicexxxx
Hi everyone
Emmy. About kids treating us like kids. My dad when shopping at the supermarket exclaimed that a young assistant had offered to count out his money. He’s a very capable intelligent man and while he may be elderly he’s no way senile! We know she meant well, offering to help, and he laughed, but I don’t think it went down very well!! None of us like to think we’re incapable when we’ve already been there, done it, so to speak, do we?
Doz. Lovely to hear you’re enjoying your week off. Your BC nurse just confirmed what we ladies suspected already about ourselves, but it’s certainly nice to be reassured. Good to read your post about the meeting and that you benefitted by it.
jmr. Glad to hear you’re near back to your usual self, but like me you could have done without it. It does seem long weeks during the winter and I’m also certainly looking forward to some uplifting sunshine.
I read the spoon theory when I spotted the thread. Interesting, and a good way of explaining the apportioning of energy throughout the day. Went for physio and trying to do the exercises but my wrist is so stiff and painful. I don’t expect it will be easy until the swelling dies down. Going again Mon and also for a bone scan. Managed to get both appointments together! Great!
Hugs, Ami xx
Help where do I find Rev Cat link? which thread? as seem to be looking for needle in haystack ha ha xxxx
The spoon theory or how not to feel guilty about energy limits is not far behind I posted on it earlier you will love it! Enjoy xxx
Hi Flutterbys
I read the Spoon theory after browsing round for ages… dont know where the time goes when your on here???
I found it on a thread “i’m in a surreal kind of place” think thats what it was called I think it was page 4/5 of 7 a post by Rev cat,
I was in blinkin tears by the time I got halfway through the thread started by a Lady who is loosing the C battle 
I’m not sure it does me good reading some of the posts… I’ve been there before when I’ve had a really good app., and feel pretty good about things afterwards then something happens in my “normal kind of life” and I realize I dont want this normal… I want my old normal it was so much easier to live with… Yes you’ve guessed i’m having a low day, and I dont know why
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!
I did get a lot from my app, BUT when you wake up in a morning with all the aches and pains and having had too little sleep AGAIN… it just makes you realize its ok being told its quite normal to feel like this…but actually feeling it is something completely different
I did get such a sense of release from offloading all my worries and doubts but it has’nt really changed anything or the way i’m feeling so now i’d like to put the idea forward to have another app., to tell them that!!! I should laugh at myself for that what a whinger I am today… sorry flutterbys!! xx
The spoon theory does explain it really sympathetically but it made me realize I only had about 6 spoons yesterday cos I got sat in my chair around tea time PJ’s on and didnt have the energy to do much else, SIGH!!! and had’nt done much previous to that!!
I WILL look for more spoons today and get this sorry ASSE into gear!!
I treated myself to a new TV for my bedroom on thursday only to get it out yesterday and found i’d bought a LCD Monitor and not a TV DOH!!!
Thats what happens when you think you’ve got a bargain and buy from a retail store that supplies stock with very few assistants… Macro!!
So today i’ll be going back to explain to the assistant (if I can find one?) my silly mistake ha ha!!!
Its daft things like that which makes me realize I am different now as the old me would have taken the time to check it out better…
Oh yes and last monday on my shopping spree I bought a lovely vest/bra top from M&S (other stores are available) new line in vest/t.shirt tops with a bra fitted… only to find i’d had a blip in memory and bought a size 12… hav’nt been a 12 for well over a year… Where did I go!!! So sorry flutterbys xxx
I wont depress you all any longer i’ll just get myself motivated and here we go THINK POSITIVE!!!
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Oh Doz! You have given me this advice lovely and it is that we should be kind to ourselves after the trauma we have been through we will have those ughh!!! days. Tomorrow is another day and pop a couple of them spoons under the bed so you can enjoy it! I read the same thread and yes it made me cry too, but also found it awe inspiring she is so serene about it all that it made my piddling moans look like just that piddling moans! I think you need a holiday girl! Weirdly I am having a better day today got meal out this evening to local wethers had a call from son and his wife inviting us to evening meal so it should be nice. The weather isn’t helping anyone’s mood either there is nothing much you can do other to wrap up and hope that sneaky wind doesn’t catch you anywhere so flipping cold!!! Sending you much love and chin up chicken tomorrow IS another day and all the good things you learnt at your app will make some kind of sense. Big hug to all that are feeling down today ,us flutterbys will get there of that I am sure just a bit of a rocky road! Ah the clothes thing? I did exactly the same and had to go to a young thing who looked at me as if to say ‘poor old thing!’ to get my top changed! So not alone honey!I hope you are all safe and warm,stay put if you can and cocoon after all we need the rest to become the flutterbys we deserve to be Em xxxxxxxx
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Went back with the supposed tv… and driving there I said to myself thats enough now get your head sorted girl!!
Changed it for a real tv ha ha!!! Made the “Assistant” laugh at my non electronics eliterate self so I brought a smile to someones day!!
I do feel so much different I just had it in my head a year down the line it would be some kind of history that you can move onwards from aand it is;nt… then when I read some stories on here I bash myself to bits at how low I get and yet so far i’m one of the lucky ones… if you can really call it lucky??
Its just a bad day Em and your right we are allowed them I guess as we dont have much choice.
I have to come to terms with the S/E as they ARE normal… I just dont like the way they leave me feeling…its like being back on the menopause but 10 times worse! one thing the BC Nurse did say was be kind to myself as it wont last forever! Only 4 yrs to go
I’ve gotten myself into a rut with it all just feel so flat… tho I did feel like this a week or so after my first mammo… emotional battering and a reminder of it all so perhaps a bit of phsycological war fare going on upstairs??? yes tomorrow is another day sweetie!
Might just keep the top and aim for a slimmer me ha ha ha! dream on girl!
So good to hear your having a better day long may it last and enjoy your meal out you deserve it after your rotten week xxx
Big hug from your fat flutterby friend xxxxhugxxxx
Sorry to hear you are having a down time Doz its really hard to be smiley all the time I am sure people think we are all happy because we have had our treatment and therefore must be okay but they don’t realise how horrid the side effects can be. I have just vaccumed for the first time since my op and I am shattered and am looking for some more spoons.I am now going to sit in my comfy chair and relax with some cross stitching as I won’t feel guilty as I am being productive in an easy way ha ha.Poor you and the t.v sounds like the sort of thing I would do even before b.c so I can’t blame b.c and s/e of pills for all my madcap things I do.Hope all you flutterbys have a better day tomorrow hugs to you all Janicexxxxxxxxxxx
Hiya Janice x
I know your right when you say its hard to be smiley all the time, I nearly always am but just recently the smiles are more selective… had a couple of people say how well i’m looking and it just peeves me that I dont always feel it and if I comment on how rubbish I sometimes feel its more or less ignored!! then I feel a right whinger… a friend recently commented when I was having one of the flush’s that seem to explode in your head and the central heating whacks up to 150 degree’s and I started whaffting myself the comment was, oh just ignore it… but its really not that easy sometimes its something I will come to terms with and hopefully over time will ease…Oh the joy!!
Thanks for all the input girls where would I be without you all bless ya xxxxxhugxxxxx
I have just sat here giggling not at the downside affecting some but just the picture of smiley BC women! Wouldn’t that creep a lot of people out? A group of us going round with this silly grin plastered on our faces! Sorry the warped mind came to the fore and created a bit of a Stepford wives moment in my head!!! Run the smiley women are here! Like that person who does not go down when someone hits them! hey that’s us!!!Wow how scary are we??
On the serious side it is a sh—er when these moods take over and all you can do is go with it! Would love a place we can go to where we can smash up some plates for a few minutes I am sure it would make me feel better but hey ho we go on and somehow it does get better! I had a lovely meal out with son and wife , the first for ages then next Sat will be going for an Indian which we love and haven’t done since before my illness for hubby’s birthday so looking forward to it! I am glad to break out of this routine of nothingness and go do something though bet you I am cream crackered afterwards!!! Who cares! I think it goes to the do something nice thing so it is something nice for hubby and I get to have my chocolate Korma which is divine! so two happy bunnies!!!
I will look for some extra spoons for Doz and janice though have hidden a couple away just in case! ‘’‘’‘’‘’'O hey a ladle! will that work? bless you all and careful what you do with them!!! Lots of love and as ever Hugs Em xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx janice we blame all the daft things on BC, I once did a cracker! got home to find my son waiting he gently took me in the direction of the kitchen,opened the fridge door and asked did you do that? It was the hair-dryer! I had put it in there trying to do ten things at once as you do and instead of putting the milk in I left that in the cupboard and put hair-dryer in fridge??? I dunno except son has put my name down for local home for the bewildered ready !!!
Aw Em
Now thats a story we can all probably relate to…in some form or other, I have done several numpty things over the past year!
I’ve poured hot water into the coffee cannister instead of the cup…
I’ve put milk in the cupboard too, only to find it the next morning gone off!!!
I’ve thrown my tablets in the bin instead of the usual place (not a bad idea) ha ha!!!(EEEEKS did I just laugh???)
I’ve locked myself out leaving my car/house keys hung up where I’d taken my coat from!
Wont show myself up repeating the tv thing!!!
The list is endless but the best thing…worst thing ever was going for an appointment at BC clinic and a pair of knickers had worked their way into my tights in my knicker draw… (small knickers from a few yrs back might I add today they are Bridget Jones’s) and they were at the back of my leg AND I didnt notice till a patient spotted them!!! I was sooo embarrassed!!!
Well girls slept well and the spoons have made an appearance or is it Em’s ladle??
I’m contemplating a walk down the river with my pooch!! Suns out and the sky is clear… windy as hell but the sun makes up for it so I think today my head is climbing out the swamp and a bit of enthusiasm is emerging
I cant believe how low we can get and how a day makes a difference in the way we think??? Am I turning into a Jekyll and Hyde?? and it was’nt me writing yesterday to you all ??
It just goes to show the normal we expect is’nt the normal it used to be… and the blinkin normal of today is a challenge… Bring it on!!
Spoon in hand and head clearing i’m definately getting my woolies on and going to face the elements
Love to all you flutterbys and massive hugs for the support… and Em i’m just getting the superglue onto my lips… smile insitu!!!
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Oh dear I have sore sides with laughing.Milk is something I can relate to as well a few years ago I hunted high and low for milk and then found it in a cupboard.I think it does get to you when people ask how you are and aren’t listening to your reply or maybe they do hear but choose to ignore it.I seem as if the only 2 words I used were "I’m fine"and leave it at that as my true friends have always listened and still do.Regarding the mood swings I sometimes wonder if I have manic depression as they change from day to day and sometimes hour by hour.
I went for a walk along the promenade this morning with 0.H lovely day even if a bit windy feel as if I have blown some of the cobwebs away.
Still feel as if I have a few spoons left so will enjoy the rest of my day. Glad you are having a better day Doz and thanks for the laughs Em glad you enjoyed your night out hugs to the rest of you lovely madcap ladies Janice xxxxxx
Love the silly smiley thing might even try it out ha ha xxxx
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Tears have rolled down my face. OH wanted to know what on earth was wrong! But I was just laughing at you both Emmy & Doz. You’ve done me the world of good! I’m going to make me a cardboard cut out smiley mouth from a cereal box for when I’m having a down day and I have to answer the door or go out. Or should I order a cardboard cut out replica of me, instead? Once, standing at the front of a queue in a shoe repair shop, I pulled out a pair of shoes, handed them to the man behind the counter who found a pair of knickers waving about on the heel. I once went out to the local shops in 2 odd shoes, have worn 2 odd earings, and gone out with a ‘smiley’ glittery face with stars after making a birthday card. I’ve cooked beetroot in the pressure cooker, the valve blew and I ended up with a red ceiling and a dint where the weights shot up! Was decorating with a bucket of glue size perched on top of the steps, moved the steps and spilt it over my head and down my back. Have you ever smelled glue size?? Think it’s made from fish!! My list is also endless.
Got my scarey smiley face on for rest of the afternoon now!
Hugs and thanks for the lift, Ami xx
How fab are we? Amazing! I think we all have had our moments well before BC! I love how we all have our funny ones and it has made me really laugh! Sharing not only is good for the soul but it cheers us all up! Hubby just reminded me of something from many moons ago! We were going to the cinema when we had two little babies such a rare treat when you haven’t much money so I decided to go the whole hog a bit of slap and a dress, yes one of my minis so off we go sister babysitting and a lovely evening to look forward to. Me feeling like a million and cars passing seemed to agree!Car horns tooting and whistling! I was feeling rather pleased (the innocence of youth!) till we had walked the length of the main road when I realised something was amiss! I had popped to the loo before leaving and tucked my dress into my knickers at the back, so I had been flashing a pair of blue knickers to all and sundry!! Yes hubby knew! he thought it was funny!! Mind you were his ears burning when we got home! It did however teach me to check before going out and I still do! Swine laughs about it even now. Well lovely flutterbys time to do some food and pj’s! Have a restful evening glad to have made you smile big hugs Em xxxxxxxx we should write a book!
Ha ha ha!!! The Barmy Butterlies by Flutterbys anonymous!!!
Who’s going to write the first chapter???
Yup its you Em bless ya… I once saw a lady walking with toilet paper in her tights… I didnt do a Colin I told her.
Had a brilliant walk it was windy but we walked for miles (around 5)
There is an area just off the river called Welton Waters were the local mariners school (Trinity House) do water sports and training that my dog(s) have always loved swimming at, it is allowed… well I could’nt get Ben out I sat watching him for over half an hour and he just totally ignored me shouting for him… I’m surprised he didnt freeze to death but it was so funny watching him swimming away
Felt much better for the fresh air and yes Janice I agree with everything you say re moods… I was told its the Letrozole not that it helps but I guess we should go easy on ourselves as it really is’nt us!! bless you I know just how you feel hon, its awful xx
Well having my day out with Vikki as its her day off and i’m not back to work till friday
Have a good day flutterbys wherever life finds you today suns still shining so enjoy xxxxxxhugsxxxxx
Hello you lovely ladies, is there any room for me on this wonderful thread?
oh the door has gone, brb x
Had another long walk today as sun shining again so wrapped up and off we went.I think its doing me good getting some exercise after being loppy lazy for a few weeks. I think we have all had daft things we have done and I have friends who have done the tights thing.Loved the one about the knickers stuck to the .Will have to get scissors out Ami and get my smiley mouth ready ha ha.Hope you have got plenty of spoons today.Doz I read an article about being beside water has a calming effect so maybe we should spend more time just watching the water be it waves in the sea or ripples on a pond just for the calming effect.I am still taking sea kelp but hair not much better but have found my nails are a lot healthier and not splitting so some good effect.My husband also wondered what I was giggling at thanks again girls.
Welcome Donna.P hope this site helps you as much as it has helped us flutterbys Doz definitely had her Angel wings on the day she opened this site a big Thank You to her Hugs to all Janicexxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Donna yep you are more than welcome!! Join in anytime we are a barmy lot but it’s fun! Well that smile was stuck fast to my face today, was at work and had a trek as we have a bridge being rebuilt so unless you fancy a detour up one track lanes and an addional 4 miles it’s a walk of about a mile, still smiling when I got into work but forgetting I had to do it back!!! Nice cardboard smile didn’t want to scare folk as I tottered like a drunk so smiled like a loon! Wonder I didn’t get arrested! I am so hoping it will do me good in the long run?? Sitting here and realising how Stepford I probably looked! Cue smiley face for the next two days!!! Could be on to something what with smiley faces and a book!! Ha! Ha!! Take care lovely flutterbys hugs Em xxxxxx p.s looking for some spoons anyone seen any spares???
ami you have to post your smiley!!! Glorious being a flutterby and nutter!!!